Published: December 29th, 2011 at 4:16 pm ET
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Law dysfunctional in face of unimaginable disaster, Yomiuri Shimbun, Dec. 30, 2011:
[...] in the event of a nuclear disaster an off-site headquarters is to be established near the nuclear power plant where the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency can gather information with representatives of local governments. [...]
On March 15, following explosions at the plant’s Nos. 1 and 3 reactors, and with the No. 2 reactor in a hazardous condition, radiation measurements inside the headquarters reached 200 microsieverts per hour, forcing the office to relocate to fukushima city [60km from meltdowns].
Early that morning, the nuclear safety agency had faxed the headquarters, advising them to administer stabilized iodine to prevent the accumulation of radioactive iodine in workers’ bodies. But in the confusion surrounding the relocation to fukushima, nobody noticed the fax until the evening. [...]
See also: 50 mile evacuation zone around Fukushima was "very conservative" says NRC Commissioner
Published: December 29th, 2011 at 4:16 pm ET
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So the Japanese government evacuated its personnel and recommended Iodine supplements, while at the exact same time insisting to the public there was no danger and the iodine was not needed?
They’ve done some pretty rotten things to their people, but this is probably the worst…
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I hope the maximum possible number of Japanese people are made aware of this and are forever disabused of the notion their government is protecting them! Sickening.
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When Cernobyl happened, I was given by the government through school potassium iodine pills even though I was 500 km from Cernobyl and not downwind. People close to Fukushima should have been given iodine pills.
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people who are unable to think OR who trust the government (essentially the same group) are being selectively exterminated.
this will continue.
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It is NOT the worst, but it does show how cold and heartless they are, only after the money, profits and keeping up appearances. No matter what, they have to look good.. It cannot be seen that a huge company like this exposed people to harm..
On the legal side however, this presents some interesting evidence. If a resident was told it was safe and then suffered harm, while at the same time, the company was telling their employees and managers to move away and take iodine, it seems like pretty solid evidence to establish motive and means for a HUGE class action lawsuit by citizens and anyone specifically harmed whether by action or inaction on their part.
At the very least, it is ammo for small claims court.
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there is nothing left to sue, TEPCO is only a facade for socialized losses at this time.
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Class action lawsuits don’t exist in Japan.. The law doesn’t allow it. Big corporations and gov. are immune to any kind of uprising. And uprisings don’t happen since the student riot of 1970 was crushed Tiananmen Square style, and education reduced to rote learning and dumbing down of the population. This is modern Japan…. a model for the rest of Asia. Hopefully Japan will be first to steer clear of this disastrous path…
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Dear JonJon: if there is no manner of legal redress in Japan that’s directly democratic (which is not what you said–you just got me to thinking), then time for revolutionary extra-legal redress by the masses, or long long passed time, actually.
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EVERYWHERE
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This can hardly be called ‘selective extermination.’ The seals are being ‘selectively exterminated’ too….?
We’ve got psychopaths in power, in the world today… there is an article about that on infowars.com right now. Psychopaths are mentally ill and there is only a crazy ‘method’ to their madness.
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All Corporations are sociopathic/psychopathic just by definition. The only thing that matters is how it affects the bottom line…..no responsibility, accountability or empathy.
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Not psychopaths. idiots who simply cannot understand that the biggest criminals in the world don’t have a turban on their head, or an AK in their hand – they have a Rolex on their wrist.
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Or those who are reserving rocket tickets exiting planet earth, or getting gene therapy incorporating radiation-eating microbe DNA into their brains.
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That rocket could end up like this one:
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/space/stories/russias-failed-phobos-grunt-probe-to-fall-from-space#comment-147188
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Hey that’s pretty useful.
From now on when they announce something we should triple it.
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When it comes to radiation releases, maybe times 10-1 Million.. especially when MOX fuel is involved.
By the way can anyone tell me how to convert bq per cc to liters?
How many times does one need to multiply to get bq per cc to bq per liter?
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From answers.com:
Answer: 1000 cc’s per liter. Multiply the Bq per cc by 1,000.
The cubic centimeter (cc or cm3) is, by definition, equal to one millilter (mL). Since there are 1000 mL to the liter (L or lit.), there are 1000 cc per liter.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_cubic_centimeters_in_a_liter#ixzz1hy7hqv14
There are lots of free conversion software programs on the web, too.
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http://www.asknumbers.com/CubicCentimeterToLiter.aspx
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“Early that morning, the nuclear safety agency had faxed the headquarters, advising them to administer stabilized iodine to prevent the accumulation of radioactive iodine in workers’ bodies. But in the confusion surrounding the relocation to fukushima, nobody noticed the fax until the evening.”
gerry thomas said
““There’s very little leakage now,” says Thomas. “The Japanese did the right thing at the right time, providing stable iodine to ensure that doses of radioactive iodine to the thyroids of children were minimal,” she says.””
and this
” August 29, 2011
By YURI OIWA / Staff Writer
“People living near the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant should have taken iodine tablets to protect them from radioactive fallout, according to a member of an advisory panel of the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan.”
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201108298140
all from this
http://enenews.com/govt-nuclear-adviser-flabbergasted-japan-failed-distribute-iodine-pills-after-meltdowns-local-residents/comment-page-1#comment-136572
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Tokyo Electric Power Company says it detected 300,000 bequerels of iodine-131 per 1 cubic centimeter, or 7.5 million times higher than the legal limit in samples taken around the water intake of the No. 2 reactor at 11:50 AM on Saturday.
It also found 200,000 bequerels or 5 million times higher than the limit in samples taken at 9AM on Monday.
Monday’s sample also shows 1.1 million times higher than the national limit of cesium-137 whose half-life is 30 years.
This is what I am trying to figure out… If I can calculate this correctly, and translate the Bq per liter into tons of water, we can calculate the total amount of radiation in the basement water.
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Not sure if it will help, but here you go. Liters to metric tons
http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/conversions/common/liters-to-metric-tons.php
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Source of above; http://enenews.com/radioactive-iodine-at-7-5-million-times-legal-limit-in-water-around-fukushima-cesium-137-at-1-1-million-times-limit-video
No one else seems to care, so I am taking it on.. but I need help.
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I looked all over the Internet, and could not find ANYTHING, and then came back here.. Presto, in two seconds, the answer appeared.
“Hemisfear311
December 5, 2011 at 3:12 am · Reply
Classic Tepco Obfuscation
Again we see a Tepco Textbook example of how to release bad news in a way that will confuse the enemy (the public) by distorting units of measurements and hiding data by clever/sly choice of wording or by just omitting relevant data.
As to the units:
There are one million cubic centimeters in a cubic meter, so multiply bq/cm³ by 1,000,000 to get bq/m³
There are one thousand liters in a cubic meter, so multiply bq/liter by 1,000 to get bq/m³
The reason Bq/m³ should be the chosen unit is because 1 ton is equal to 1 m³ of water. This makes comparison and evaluation of data much easier.
The three reports could have been directly comparable if standard units had been applied, making it much easier to spot the missing or conflicting data.
What I get from reading and comparing these reports is this:
45 m³ of water containing a total of 5,850,000,000,000 Bq of Sr90 was leaked.
Quoting the the NHK article:
“The water is used to cool down the reactors in the power plant and the utility says the leak does not pose any problems for the process”
No problemo!”
Source; http://enenews.com/wsj-new-leak-detected-at-fukushima-plant-asahi-strontium-at-1000000-times-govt-limit/comment-page-1#comment-177321
Anyone interested in doing the calculations of TOTAL radiation on total amount of water in basements, plus 500 tons a day that they are using now to keep it cool?
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Another report said that over 100,000 tons of highly contaminated water at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant are estimated to contain 720,000 terabecquerels of radioactive materials.
Well, is that true, or is it another minimization and spin? We can apply the formula above to find out…
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small addition.
There is 500 tons of groundwater breaking into reactor buildings that they “don’t know where it is comming from”.
Reactor buildings are not overflowing. This has been confirmed from several sources, including tepco.
Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Groundwater Flowing Into Fukushima Nuclear Plant
TOKYO (Kyodo)–Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Tuesday it suspects that 200 to 500 tons a day of groundwater might be flowing through pits and wall cracks into reactor and turbine buildings at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant crippled by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.
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Thursday, December 8, 2011
Tepco Mulling Release Of Low-level Radioactive Water Next March
But as about 200 to 500 tons of groundwater a day flows into the reactor turbine buildings, the amount of water that is processed has exceeded that needed for injection into the reactors, according to Tepco spokesman Junichi Matsumoto.
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Strontium flow directly into the sea at Fukushima Daiichi
Posted by Mochizuki on November 11th, 2011
Oshidori mako asks:
I understand that water is not leaked to the sea now, but when water WAS leaking into the sea from Reactor 2, how did you filter out strontium?
Tepco, Matsumoto answers:
No, we haven’t filtered out strontium. Strontium must have leaked to the sea.
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Rats left the sinking ship. To recommend KI tablets, and removal/evac to 60KM–everyone should have been able or told to do the same. A true miscarriage of justice for the Fukushima victims. Since the “office” registered 200 microsieverts an hour..did they think THEY were the only dangerous radiation fallout location? EVERYONE in the area was exposed to dangerous radiation! What is needed is to calculate the total accumulation of dose for an average citizen..the external..then make an average of people food contamination for INTERNAL exposure. Since gov officals had dosimeters..and the regular public didnt, one would have to take the WORST case-to be safe. Say 200 Ms an hour..for several days..and then a lesser amount for the other 9 months of continuting fallout.
Since TEPCO cant provide data for the downwind radation, take worse case for that as well. TEPCO better have deep pockets…
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Day after Tomorrow Movie-shows government can do exactly what the Japanese government officails did..evacuate in motor convoys..but leave some people in place..too late for them. In fact there are a couple movies, 2012 being similar..
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at chernobyl, the party officials evacuated day one, the people were evacuated day 3.
of course japan hasn’t evacuated anyone.
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This all continues to remind of war time policies and behaviour.
Odd that…..
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Still coming in…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/nuclear-power-gregory-jaczko-nuclear-regulatory-commission_n_1160711.html
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From Huff Post
So far, the White House is standing by Jaczko, one of the least industry-friendly leaders to serve at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission in a generation.
Hate to see what they consider “Industry friendly”
I nominate Monty Burns as next “Industry friendly” head of the NRC.
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I nominate the 3 Stooges. They’d do a better job.
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I have read this blog everyday since AG mentioned it and I think it is both very helpful and informative.Pity the Japanese government can’t follow this example.however it is just possible that the future is so bleak they dare not be that honest.I have read on here that only a couple of pounds of plutonium could kill (theoretically) everyone on the planet and the explosions aerosoled how much in to the upper atmosphere/jet stream ?.I live in europe and one day I awoke with a taste in my mouth which I knew but could not name ? a week later I read here of people tasting metal and that is what it was.This is so big it must be considered a world changing event and if you were the japanese government and you knew this wouldn’t you look the other way.
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Wow, thats quite an entrance their “Kein”
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You said it brother! Glad you joined us.
That’s what I keep thinking. This must be so HUGE, that those in charge dont HAVE A CLUE at what to do.
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Yeah, that has occurred to me too, Whoopie. It would explain the total lack of action and endless denials …. Maybe TPTB are trying to soften the blow and the truth will out when the SHTF the _ _ _ _ _ _ _ the proverbial fan, that is. I couldn’t come up with any other explanation. Not only is all the plutonium, etc. spewed everywhere, but the massive debris field in the Pacific & washing up in N. America has got to have their minds boggled …. What do you DO when you are faced with a disaster of such colossal proportions?
As I said awhile ago, the “ugly genie” is out of the bottle, and there is no putting it back.
May the survivors, whomever they may be, learn from the terrible mistake of creating nuclear weapons and a “nuclear industry.”
I’ve come to the conclusion I’m suffering from at least mild radiation poisoning. I’m in the S.F. Bay Area in California, and have a suppressed immune system. I’m a sitting duck for all that fallout ….
I wonder if there could ever be a class action lawsuit on behalf of people like me who bought the lie the Xenon 133 cloud was “harmless” and there was little radiation coming out of the plants after April. (That was before I learned how to get more reliable news.)
Yeah, I was out rototilling my yard in April. I knew there had been some fallout, but no where near as severe as what I now believe rained down on us here.
Sheesh, go figure!
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Being from the west coast myself I understand where you are coming from. However, I do caution against what can be overwhelming and helpless feelings such as the ones you are expressing. Dont get me wrong, I cannot nor should I tell you how to feel, nor is that my intention. I am simply saying that assumptions can be terribly devastating. The way I deal with some of this stuff is by not assuming the worst, staying informed, applying all that we have learned of anecdotal practices and precautions in preventing as best we can impacts we do not desire all the while ensuring I have some peace of mind in so doing. All we can ever do is the best that we can do, and that hotaters is the best we can do, besides moving to places unknown with other risks unknown.
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Sorry to hear that Ho. What we’re witnessing…and what we WILL be witnessing, will be nothing less than horrific.
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT?!?! I think I’ll run that by a few friends. I mean WHY THE HELL NOT!? We are being poisoned as we speak!!! Good one HoTaters!
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Gone a couple of hours…STILL HOT if you care to join in:
http://enenews.com/just-in-japan-govt-evacuated-out-to-60km-after-reactor-explosions-public-told-only-20km/comment-page-1#comment-177357
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Those volunteers that have been blogging daily since the March 11, 2011 Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster in Japan; posting up to date information from sources World Wide, because MSM will not!
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AGreenRoad.
1000 cc in 1 liter
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@kein…No ..NO… I would not look the other way…
Fate must be looked at clearly and bravely…I would have begun an immediate evacuation….larger than 60 km..(not far enough..japanese government officials..but you will find out..)
And I’d get ready to break the back of the company that is causing suffering to my people.
But..complicity keeps this from happening…that…and the weighty thumbs of the US goverment and their pal Israel.
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@kein…PS…also… welcome….
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Ditto~!
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Another interesting point is that at the time of the explosions the American government also issued notice for a wider evacuation area and had ships in the waters detecting rates of exposure that saw them flee the region. Shortly there after the issue was ordered to pull American military service people out entirely.
So what we have here is Federal governments both foreign and now we learn domestic issuing orders contrary to the policy set for civilians, and no one bats an eye.
The pending law suits will be interesting indeed.
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Good point, for those legal eagles…
What is ordinary and prudent care when it comes to ‘defective’ or dangerous products/services?
When other nations are pulling people out of the country completely and getting them the H#$% out of there, why is this ONE company that makes and produces this dangerous product/service encouraging people to come back in, or only voluntarily get away in a 20km circle?
Why a circle anyways? Radiation does not lay down in neat, tidy circles. There are HUGE high radiation zones that got laid down way beyond these circles both in Chernobyl and FUKU.. Why not set up zones like they did after Chernobyl, outlining the highest radiation zones. This would be acknowledging reality and DANGER.
What they are doing instead is ignoring all scientific and medical evidence, denying any problems exist, while all other countries are following the evidence and listening to reality, at least in part.
I see this as a HUGE income and paradigm shifting opportunity for some legal firms, both Japanese and internationally, because harm can be proved both locally and internationally…
It either has to happen legally, or we keep having ‘accidents’ like this, year after year after year, ad nauseum, ad death, ad disease forever and ever. These firms have to taste legal defeat and loss of all income for a LONG TIME, to make them change how they do business, and manage risks.
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While what you assert is true I fear why we see the oddities you point out is because the actions are based on legal concerns and liability mitigation. Polices are set and adopted by these companies, always based on the laws within the jurisdiction they operate. So why we saw a perfect circle evacuation plan and a whole host of other contradictions to known realities is because the policy making and execution is almost entirely established and executed based on existing laws and in a matrix of liable mitigation.
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There will be no lawsuits.
there’s nobody left to sue. Tepco is gone. The Japanese government is insolvent and has resorted to printing money – maybe even faster than the equally insolvent United States.
If the people get mad enough there might be nooses, but lawsuits only work when the government makes some rules and forces everyone to play by them.
The true revelation here at Enenews is there are no rules. The governments have no problem lying to their people. They have no problems silencing the opposition. A product this dangerous has been sold to the public for half a century as safe and clean…
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Hey, if they are printing up money, why not print up some for the victims. As we know from the millions of victims here in the US, no one gets money unless they demand it.
It may be worth a try, if a legal firm is willing to dive into these kinds of waters. A movie was made not too long ago, about a small legal firm that sued and won against a HUGE utility company..
Anyone remember the title?
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They only make movies about stuff that happens really rarely.
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Well, once again James your keen and eager approach leaves you little wiggle room.
There will indeed be law suits. They are lawyers James, Hello?
That said there may not be compensation, or maybe even worse, now that TEPCO is in its final death throes, low level civil suits for damages will be compensated by government as the push to Nationalize TEPCO is completed. So the very people being contaminated as a result of bad and or corrupt government policy will also be footing the bill for their damages.
In the end the overall notion is correct its an all round lose for the people of Japan, disgusting when you think about the profit nuclear has made and the costs they ahve already unloaded on the people. Now they get the disease, the destroyed environment and economy and the bill! The nuke companies, well what do they get? The cash.
There is no justice, there is just us.
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“The pending law suits will be interesting indeed”
Yes they will be! #1 Laws will and have been changed to accommodate the industry and their standards. #2 Courts ruling in favour of the operator for mass public theft of their materials. Then ordering the repayment of any lost revenue’s and costs of damages to the operator. #3 Courts ruling in favour of the industry against public defamation. They issue a warning notice to the public about a new penalty (fines/jail) system to be implemented when slander is suspected, investigated by industry officials. #4 Strict penalties issued to individuals found to be carrying high concentrations of stolen materials inside there person. Penalties between 2-25 years in solitary confinement.If considered a threat to public or industry safety the death penalty can be issued at any stage of sentence without notice.
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Unfortunately IMHO, there is a mass control/cover up in place. It would seem that it has been to easy to execute this option! They or them must have a lot more control over our world than anyone has ever suspected. The way this has been handled is of great concern to all who live on this planet! Who are they and what exactly do they control?
I am inclined to think it is an enemy that is just as invisible as there radionuclide death machine. They have no face and have remained hidden. This makes it extremely difficult to fight back or even make someone aware of there presence. Who is this public enemy No.1?
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You raise good issues Toadmac, there are loads and loads of precendent for what you are suggesting. Without doubt corporate malfeasance of the nature you allude to has run rampant the world over and does indeed stretch into the courts, government, industry and military. So as I have said elsewhere Fukushima has been precedent setting in two ways.
1) the single largest one time event impacting living kind in the planets history
2) the single largest coverup in the history of cover ups
That said, identifying is by design a real challenge and a great place to start if we are ever going to push back in any real way as clearly established processes and procedures are not going to reap the benefits we believe are required, ending it now.
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One thing I am 100% convinced on is the fact that military’s of our allied world are no longer acting in the interests of there country’s people? I know there has always been a hidden agenda when conflicts break out, but at the moment it seems rampant? If I was a nation that was not allied with this military machine,what sort of weapons would I need to stop any attack or invasion from such a well equipped, large and menacing force? Trust me the answer is not good! These defying nations are looking for there independence and will look at any option to stop an onslaught! I would too!
Peace.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/russia-nuclear-submarine-fire_n_1174731.html
Another nuclear accident, nuke sub on fire in Russia.
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WOW! LOOK WHAT’S ON TOP OF THAT LINK STOCK!!
Chavez: Is U.S. Government Causing Cancer In Latin America?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/chavez-united-states-cancer_n_1173266.html
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CARACAS, Venezuela — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is questioning the rash of cancer cases among Latin American leaders and asking if somehow the U.S. might have a way to induce the illness.
Chavez has long questioned whether the U.S. government could be plotting to oust him, but his latest remarks went far beyond any such theories.
The leftist leader referred to the cancer diagnosis of Argentine President Cristina Fernandez, and noted that he and the leaders of Brazil and Paraguay have also struggled with the illness recently.
Chavez calls it very strange. He says he isn’t accusing the U.S. and doesn’t have any proof. But he asks, in his words, “Would it be strange if they had developed a technology to induce cancer and no one knew it?”
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RADIATION POISONING Could very well be….coming soon to a family member or neighbor near you.
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Not strange at all. The government has had this technology on an individual basis for decades, so it could be extended to groups.
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It has been done before… The radioactive polonium did in a spy living in the USA, who was a critic of Putin..
Benefits of radiation as poison of choice… invisible, hard to detect, almost no one will think to test for it, certain death depending on dose and type of radioactive substance used.
The US has an active and ongoing assassination program in all kinds of ways against people it does not like in foreign countries, and has assassinated democratically elected leaders many times in the past.
This would not be any surprise, and would fit in with drones, special forces ‘taking people out’, and assassination threats made by US leaders in the recent past; especially towards S. American leaders who oppose US takeover and control of their countries.
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Read; ‘Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man’ for more details if believe that the US is only about freedom and democracy.. This is the dark underbelly of Capitalism..
Yes, there is a dark side to it.. sad to say.
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More people need to read or to be come aware of this prospect, which is one which broke the camels back for me forever. All governments are potentially bullies in these situations.
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Chavez is trying to inject radiation into the US presidential election.
He’ll force them to admit a lot of radiiation is coming from Japan. Then start asking well where else is it going?
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So what James!! Wonder if we could ALERT HIM with what we know. I’ve ALWAYS like Chavez. EMAIL HIM?? LETS DO IT!
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Good idea contacting Chavez to update him on nuclear fallout coming to US Canada and then to his country. He has media which will write about his statements, unlike the NorthAmerican countries’ media.
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I too .like. or better respect Chavez, he is a no BS guy and won’t back down or be bullied.
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Yeah Chavez has been very effective at steering the script for presidential debates hasnt he?
While I too have a soft spot for old Hugo I also try to keep a foothold in reality.
Chavez has just been through quite an ordeal with cancer and now several other leaders in South America are inflicted with the disease, it will be difficult to make the leap from Fukushima to the Southern Hemisphere and over these real reasons he is raising the issue. Moreover, attacks on revolutionary leaders is common place and has been for, well, ever. So Chavez is simply bringing up the obvious as he is also dealing with his own domestic political calendar for which the US has an array of interventionalist policies he must defend against.
But it would be interesting, this theory of Chavez stealthly trying to make Fukushima am American election issue, just not near possible or realistic.
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All those leaders have met in Cancun recently?
Cancun is downwind (East) from Mexico’s one nuclear plant which is on the gulf coast.
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Did they move the government from Tokyo as they said they would do. If the public to stay in Tokyo then government stay too.
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