New Interview: Fukushima poses lethal risk to US West Coast, says Senator — Another bomb waiting to go off — Extreme nuclear vulnerability, especially in Reactor No. 4

Published: April 23rd, 2012 at 5:29 am ET
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Title: Ron Wyden’s nuclear field trip
Source: Oregonian
Author: Editorial Board
Date: Apr. 23, 2012

Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden’s recent daylong field trip from Tokyo to the zone of Japan’s nuclear devastation is worth at least a week in the telling. Bunny-suited with a breathing device for protection against radiation exposure, Wyden walked through the ruined Fukushima Dai-ichi complex and saw what few from the West have seen: another bomb waiting to go off.

The senator is not typically alarmist. But his field notes, followed by letters to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Energy Secretary Steven Chu, signal alarm. They paint a picture of extreme nuclear vulnerability, especially in Reactor No. 4 [...]

Wyden completed his tour by asking Japan, with written urgings for help from Clinton and Chu, to sharply speed up a cleanup expected to take 10 more years. His fear is that another big seismic event will trigger another disaster before the cleanup is completed — exposing Oregon and the West Coast to potentially lethal risk.

“What we learned the first time is that radioactivity leaks out quickly,” he told The Oregonian Friday. “If (No. 4) ruptures now, it gets into the air, and that’s very troubling to us in Oregon. This must not happen.” [...]

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Wikipedia on The Oregonian: “Largest newspaper in Oregon and the Pacific Northwest by circulation and the 19th largest daily newspaper in the country.”

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96 comments to New Interview: Fukushima poses lethal risk to US West Coast, says Senator — Another bomb waiting to go off — Extreme nuclear vulnerability, especially in Reactor No. 4

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    The U.S and Europe need to go in and do some serious work (pronto) because that plant is a time-bomb waiting to go off.


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  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

    Aside from the fact that this 'risk' has already transpired, I give this man props for staying on target…


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  • ion jean ion jean

    Unprecedented levels of Cesiums, et al, on US West Coast ALREADY, according to Russia, in addition to ocean plume headed to coast within one year…there will be much aerosolized radiation once the "sea spray" phenomenon begins all across CA and WA and AK…

    I am trying to avoid any foods grown on West Coast; I know my govt will say too little, too late…both my parents suffered Cesium heart attacks, I'm now sure…

    Why Congress is not concerned with what has already fallen is beyond my ethical comprehension and Sen. Wyden would do best to spend his time exposing his Wash DC colleagues in their continued dismissal of scientific facts concerning ionizing radiation…

    It's time to come clean with the People who pay your way through life!!!

    60 percent may be sucking down diet sodas, but the other 39% of us still have the brain function to understand all this!!!


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      "…sucking down diet sodas" was a nice touch, jean…


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      • ion jean ion jean

        Thanks, I hope all here are forewarned: An Alzheimer's epidemic is upon us, with links to aspartame…


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        • StillJill StillJill

          Straight-up TRUTH ion jean!

          My sincere condolences on the heart attacks FUKU gave BOTH your folks! :-(


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          • ion jean ion jean

            Hi stilljill…thank you but I didn't specify whose radioisotopes killed my parents…

            They passed a few years back of respectable lifespans, however…

            I can link their illnesses with data of exposures over the course of the atomic age…being depression-era Americans, anyone east of the NTS and in the Jet Stream got equal or worse exposure from 1946 onward, before Fukushima, before this stuff wasn't killing enough of us, so they had to ramp it up a notch…we're talking about millions of fellow citizens of earth here…

            Combining is the synergistic effect of being forced to consume FLUORIDE in the public water supply (I'm not even including other toxic chem exposures!). Why fluoride is so volatile it is needed in the smelting pots to make steel and uranium more pure, so no doubt there the damage is done synergistically in our bodies.

            My dear, Life is always hanging on a prayer for myself…God Is Love and Love Conquers ALL is how I try to approach each day; my parents rest in peace and pride that I speak the truth…and my faith that these evildoers will face the music soon, with some Divine Intervention…


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        • moonshellblue moonshellblue

          Never could tolerate aspartame, terribly allergic thus my body knows when something is not good for it. I have a relative who drinks that stuff like all the time and was dx'd with Parkinson's and has had a plethora of health issues. I can't even chew gum with Aspartame but to each their own.


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    • ion jean ion jean

      Search EU Times article dated April 15…Matsumura is quoted there…also on MsMilkyTheClown channel, youtube vid


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    • Woman Dies From Drinking Too Much Coca-Cola!! | In Flex …

      2 days ago … We know soda is addicting, but it can kill too?!! DAMN! Experts are pointing their
      fingers to a 30-year-old woman's 2-gallon-a-day Coca-Cola …
      http://www.inflexwetrust.com/2012/04/20/crazy-woman-dies-from-drinking-too-much-coca-cola/


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    • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

      @ion jean

      So sorry for the loss of your parents.

      Other than the Chernobyl heart seen in children do you know anything more about Cesium and heart problems specific people exposed to Cesium as adults?

      I am wondering about all of our exposures to Cesium. If a person is exposed to Cesium as an adult and it is causing them heart problems is there any way to determine that Cesium is the significant factor? Can a person "catch" the problem before they have a heart attack or does the problem just present as ordinary heart problems?

      Thanks ahead to anyone for some information on this.


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      • ion jean ion jean

        Thanks, it was actually the cancerous tumor in her colon that did my mom in…again my thoughts wonder to internalized radiation…she ate the food, drank the wAter, breathed the air through fifty plus years of US Nuke testing…I believe I mutated a greater resistance to the stuff which is why I'm so healthy, but maybe its just the fate of timing…

        As far as I know, the only way to measure radiation in soft tissue is to ash a piece of it…otherwise you're in estimated exposure territory which is very speculative…

        This necessitated the human radiation experiments in the late forties, early fifties…organs or pieces of organs were removed from subjects and flown to secret labs all over the country for such testing (see The Plutonium Files by Eileen Welsome).


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        • Hi, Jean. Whole body scanners can do a fair job of determining an overall level of internal contamination (in Bq/kg), even parse the isotopes. But you're right it wouldn't get a good read on any particular organ.

          To be honest, I don't think there's any possible 'mutation' that can make a person resistant to damage from radiation, because ionization is an actual physical process. Random per actual damage done to molecules and cells, but it's like shooting off a gun in a crowd – anyone who gets hit gets hurt. One may "luck out" and escape getting hit, but bullets that do hit do damage to biological tissues – greater or lesser depending entirely on what tissues encounter the bullet.

          About the best anyone can hope for is to have a robust cellular/molecular (DNA) repair system. And even a robust system is going to get overwhelmed if dose is high enough and/or constant enough.


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          • StillJill StillJill

            So true,….an eventual overwhelmed body awaits us all,….but time is the one thing, if we have today,…we have some of. I mean, antioxidants, and INTENSIVE mineral replenishing! pH kept STRICTLY above 7.5, and plenty of 'blood food', beets, cilantro, parsley, and the list goes on!

            There's a race to be won my friends,……you know what they say the best revenge is, don't you?

            A happy (healthy) life!

            Let's go PISS 'EM off! :-)


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    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      @ionjean

      I am finding that produce is now being deliberately labeled so that one cannot know exactly where it was grown in the U.S. They know produce is contaminated and think we are foolish enough to buy it if it just says "grown in the USA". We are trying to grow our own now, but even that will be contaminated because there is strontium in the rain.

      I hope the Senator arouses the idiots in Washington, D.C. Someone needs to make them understand that they are not exempt from this. The U.S. ought to move forcefully to require TEPCO to find a way to support the common spent fuel pool. Our lives depend on it.


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      • ion jean ion jean

        You are SO right on the produce thing…I have been a frustrated shopper as well…

        I became a pest with my local food buyers, questioning states of origin…if they know, it is their customer policy to serve you by telling you

        I start with the EWG's dirty dozen list and try to buy those organically, with region in mind (the global cesium maps imaged, burned into my brain)

        Then, when my east coast growing season starts, I try to be a locavore…best I can do being poor for my family…can't stop the radiorain, though.


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  • The fuel pool has been a grave concern from the beginning by all the nuclear experts, so why 14 months in is it getting attention ?
    Why was there not a pool built around and higher then the threat in the beginning ?

    I can't help but wonder if this will be used in ways for a outside purpose (FEAR TOOL) rather then a concern for safety !

    Governments often control (brainwash) people through fear of something, a bogeyman or a common treat of some event !


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    5 days ago … April 17, 2012: Senator Ron Wyden (D-Oregon), appeared on MSNBC's The
    Daily Rundown to discuss a recent onsite tour of what remains of the Fukushima
    Daiichi … … Every single US reactor needs review of the spent fuel pool, and the
    risk … This is the single biggest threat to National security. When I …
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f9mdgy0CPE


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    "Wyden also addressed his letter to Gregory Jaczko"
    Think he'll get an answer? The Silence is deafening. :(


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  • demo demo

    If/when unit 4 goes, it could well be the world's worst disaster since the dinosaur extinction. Caring people of the world, first & foremost, rise up and persistently demand a coordinated international effort to prevent that and demand the permanent shut down now of all nukes before they permanently shut down our species. Educate as many as possible to join in expressing our justified indignation how/when/wherever possible for as long as it takes. Occupy the utility companies etc that own the nukes, their shareholder and board meetings, their businesses (even homes if necessary,) and the politicians who enable them. We the People have the power if we will only unite in that most basic of all instincts, survival of our species. The 1% are in denial. They have family, too, and will come around if they can be educated, because otherwise this will not be a world they will want for their grandkids or even for themselves in 10 years. Kudos to the inspiring Japanese women who are protesting/striking. Follow their example. Wake up, fellow humans!


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  • Sen. Ron Wyden urges Japan to move faster to clean up, contain radioactive danger from stricken nuclear plants
    April 19, 2012

    http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/04/sen_wyden_urges_japan_to_move.html


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  • ion jean ion jean

    Wyden won't see a penny from Exelon in his reelection coffers now…I think he needs to build a Senatorial Antinuclear Caucus…he can get Bernie Sanders to join and maybe a few in the House will form as well…we need power IN NUMBERS to win this battle!


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  • U.S. Senator Tours Fukushima, Warns Situation Worse Than Reported …Urges Japan to Accept International Help to Stabilize Dangerous Spent Fuel Pools
    April 16, 2012

    Reuters reports: Japan, with assistance from the U.S., needs to do more to move spent fuel rods out of harm’s way at the tsunami-stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, said U.S. Senator Ron Wyden on Monday. Wyden, a senior Democratic senator … Continue reading →

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/04/u-s-senator-tours-fukushima-warns-situation-worse-than-reported-urges-japan-to-accept-international-help-to-stabilize-dangerous-spent-fuel-pools.html


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  • We wont stop nuke this year, we are going to need to be ready to deal with accidents until they are gone.

    Here is a easy to follow checklist of how to build an emergency supply box. Just do it.

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/p/radiation-preparation-resources.html


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  • glowfus

    "what we learned the first time is that radioactivity leaks out quickly",,,,,,,,who elects these people???????????


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    • lunamaria lunamaria

      Sadly, the answer is the same for Japan as it is the US: the sheople, who are led astray by corporate/political lies. I am sure that, like here, the only ones who survive the nomination process are the good little boys who toe the corporate line. I hate to state the obvious, but this HAS to change!


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  • bincbom

    Just called my Senators to urge them to get the US involved in securing Fukushima. Senator Udall's aide said that he is aware of the situation, very concerned about it, and "trying to do something about it".


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  • sendaimom

    I had been living in Sendai and experienced the 3.11 earthquake. I share Sen. Wyden's concern, because I am now in Oregon. I once posted a comment last year as a Japanese mother. My family was separated across the Pacific while I was waiting for my visa and finally we are reunited. I know that the U.S. West Coast cannot be safe if the Unit 4 goes, but came here anyway. For my children's sake, I believe It was a better choice, if not the best.

    Mothers in Japan are trying to cope with the situation. I met many through a network of mom's groups that are springing up across the nation, trying to protect their children. We need support, and I hope more people think of this as their own problem. As a Japanese, I am sorry about what happened, it is no longer just Japan's problem.

    We are currently facing the Japanese government's attempt to spread the potentially or probably contaminated debris to areas that have been much less affected by the nuclear disaster. Not only that, the debris are to be incinerated! More radiation back into the air as a result, also leaving radioactive ash. We need to protect relatively safe areas.

    By the way, I understand that some people might want to avoid food from the West Coast. It was like me avoiding food from eastern Japan. The situation is not that bad, I hope. Is it?
    Food testing is what we need, not only in Japan and also in the States, especially the West Coast.

    Does anybody know a good place to go to for such food…


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      A warm welcome to you, SendaiMom! We are so happy to have you join the conversation here at enenews!

      I am so happy to hear you are now reunited with your family and were able to leave Sendai. My heart goes out to all the people of Japan whose lives have been forever changed by this tragedy. My greatest wish would be for ALL children and families to be able to move to a safe place.

      Regarding food testing in the U.S., we currently do not know of any coordinated effort by the FDA or any government agencies. I am not sure if they would release this information even if they were doing such testing, as to not create "alarm" and the economic harm which officials must be concerned such testing and revelations of radiation contamination in U.S. food might cause.

      I think as time goes on, we may see a citizens' grassroots network here in the U.S. where people pool resources to buy the expensive equipment needed for such testing so the people can help each other even if their government won't.

      The current geiger counter measurements people have been sharing in the Radiation Monitoring forum on this site are limited at best when it comes to measuring radioisotopes in food. (Bruno, the scientist at France's CRIIAD has soon good videos on their YouTube channel discussing how to do such measurements using a Geiger Counter. Volume is important, so to get a really accurate measurement using one would require measuring a large enough volume of food.


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      • What-About-The-Kids

        Continued from above:

        Correction: "Bruno from France's CRIIAD has some good videos…"

        Volume is important, so to get a really accurate measurement using a Geiger counter would require measuring a large enough volume of food. But this does not usually help one determine exactly which isotope or isotopes are being measured, so again, this is a limited method).

        I too am in the Pacific Northwest, and am concerned about what may be in our food. I try to limit dairy, based on the low-levels of cesium which were found to be bio-accumulating at ever-increasing (but still low levels) in dairy in the Berkeley, CA area by UC Berkeley's Nuclear Forum scientists. But again, the fallout from Fuku last March and April did not fall uniformly, so even within one farm, the results of testing will likely vary widely.

        I like the aged Tillamook cheese from Oregon as well as the New Zealand cheddar from Trader Joe's. We don't drink milk.

        But unless we do get a citizen's lab created, our efforts to screen our food will be difficult.

        Anyway, I welcome you and wish you and your family well in your new home in Oregon! I look forward to your continued (and more frequent) participation on this forum. :-)


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        • HoTaters

          I don't think we can trust what UCB is publishing. The levels of radioactive contaminants they found in soil were far below what was found by independent researchers.

          But no one else seems to be doing testing and publishing the results.

          So what are we do do?

          It's my impression from reading comments from people here like Spectrometizing (sp?) you can't get accurate readings w/o a very sophisticated and expensive instrument — like a spectrometer. We can't use consumer level geiger counters to get any kind of accurate results — even with external probes. All we'll know is if something is really "hot."

          W/O getting a measure of internal radiation in food sources, or a reading done by sensitive instruments, we can't rely on what our geiger counters might tell us.


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        • sendaimom

          Thanks What-About!

          I like Trader Jo's so next time I go there I will look for New Zealand cheddar. I've also been trying soy and almond milk, but my 8-year-old prefers whole milk. If only dairy farms would start testing their milk!


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      • HoTaters

        I agree we need a network of people to do independent testing.


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        • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

          HoTaters: Agree 1000%. :) But, we'll need to fund our own labs. Many universities in the US have the equipment to do food testing for radiation (there was a list of them posted this year on ENEnews). Testing will not be done, however, because these universities are affiliated with-and depend on funding from-the nuclear industry. There will be no funding for studies of radiation in food, hence no consumer actionable information forthcoming from these sources. We saw the Administration and the NRC acting in March of 2011 to prohibit any US Government lab from making information on radiation known to be in US air and soil available to the public. Now the US government reports that it will not be adequately testing Pacific seafood, nor California fruits and vegetables, for radiation going forward. So we are left to our own devices. But we need to get local food testing cooperative labs going soon, or it will be too late once the government is forced to tell us what they know.


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    • vital1 vital1

      Food testing commercial unites are expensive, and that is why I have been investigating cheaper units. Most people would not be able to afford them.

      I have been looking at a DIY unit for around for around $1,700 with a scintillator tube. I just needed more info on which scintillator tube would be most cost effective to do the job.

      I have purchase this unit and will try it out before I suggesting it, to make sure it would be suitable. I also wanted to see how easy it would be to use. Not everyone here has technical ability.

      I have no commercial interest in any of this I just saw a need to find a cost effective food testing unit for the community because we need it.

      When I have done the testing of the unite I will post the info here at enenews. It is going to take weeks for the scintillator tube to arrive unfortunately.

      If you pick up radioactive food contamination with a Geiger Counter it should not be consumed! It has to be pretty contaminated above food safety levels to be detected by a Geiger Counter.


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      • vital1 vital1

        Here is a free Geiger Counter Use Guide, do not just rely on this Guide, do more research. It is only meant to be a basic guide to get people started.

        I will be adding more to this guide in the future. You will be able to get the latest version from this site here.

        http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Using-a-Geiger-Counter-to-test-food-for-Radioactive-Contamination.pdf


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      • vital1 vital1

        Here is the latest info on my investigation into cost effective and easy to use food testing equipment for radioactive contamination. I have found a few units so far, ranging in price from $1,700 to $18,000.

        I am still investigating the cheapest unit here. At $1,700 it is supplied with scintillator and software. It will also give you an indication of individual isotope contamination levels like the more expensive AustralRAD Becquerel Monitor below. To use it you will also need a computer and to build a lead testing chamber. These are an extra cost. You will also need to learn how to use the software to get the best out of it.

        Berthold Australia LB 200- Rapid food monitoring $11,000. The Berthold Australia LB 200- Rapid food monitor is probably the easiest to use it just tells you the Becquerel contamination amount on a screen and is supplied with lead shielded testing chamber.

        http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/LB-200-05-2004-81297PR2-Rev02.pdf

        The Gammasonics AustralRAD Becquerel Monitor $18,000 The Gammasonics AustralRAD Becquerel Monitor is more sophisticated than the other two models and provides you with an indication of individual isotope contamination levels and is supplied with a lead testing chamber, computer laptop and software.

        http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/BecqueralMonitorBROCHURE-V8-web.pdf


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        • vital1 vital1

          All dollar amounts here are in Australian dollars.

          The Gammasonics AustralRAD Becquerel Monitor also has options that will allow you to detect alpha contamination. These optional extras put the price up to $35,000. Those prices don't include our GST which adds another 10%.

          If any off you discover another food tester or have any other suggestions for suitable radioactive food testers please let us know.


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          • vital1 vital1

            These are expensive items, an most of you would not be able to afford them except by organizing a group buy.

            As I said I am investigating a DIY unit but it will be weeks be for I can report on it.

            Here are a couple groups that Spectrometising suggested for good info on testing equipment.

            http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GeigerCounterEnthusiasts/
            http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GammaSpectrometry/


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            • What-About-The-Kids

              Thanks again, Vital1! Your efforts to offer helpful information are always appreciated. :-) Keep up the great work! Can't wait to hear your food testing results once you get your new unit! Good luck! :-)


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            • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

              vital1: Many thanks for all the great info! Keep us posted.

              Radiation Reporting Coops in major cities: You need to get organized and begin accumulating this type of information. I might suggest that you work with Whole Foods and other supermarkets in your city to fund cooperative radiation testing labs. Today, it's Fuku, and perhaps Fuku2. Tomorrow, it could be your local nuke releasing the radiation. Please keep us up to date on your efforts here on ENEnews.

              Admin, perhaps it's not too soon to begin a thread on food radiation testing and radiation remediation here.

              I am still seeing TV (read 'big money') advertising for California Dairy Products. Here in Indiana! AS IF ANYONE WILL BE BUYING DAIRY PRODUCTS FROM CALIFORNIA!


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      • pacific

        Why so defeatist about testing food, VitalOne, HoTaters and WhatAbout?

        Vital, you know about 3 testing set-ups, but only named the two that are outrageously expensive — Please tell us the name of the $1700 one! And HoTaters, I agree a food testing network would be great, but just one person could start testing on their own and not have to wait for a whole network to get going. Or a few people that live within several hours of each other could pool funds to come up with $1700, and take turns for a week or two at a time. WhatAboutTK and VitalOne, when you say a testing method doesn't absolutely indicate what isotopes are giving off the radiation, it sounds discouraging — But hey, wouldn't just knowing how many 'zaps' of radiation are coming off your glass of milk, or spinach salad, every second (Bq, becquerels) be pretty useful, and LOTS more information than we have right now?

        This is a such great site, and I'm so grateful for commenters' input and information.

        Sometimes, tho, I'm a little shocked at the blanket defeatism and discouragement, the repetitions OVER and OVER and OVER of: "there's absolutely nothing we can do". I don't have the answers, or directions for anybody, but it does come to mind:

        That's exactly what Tepco and the nuclear industry want us to do: absolutely nothing!


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        • pacific

          Testing our food and water is something we CAN do. We don't need to wait for a Senator to do it, we don't need to wait for Tepco, or the Japanese or US government, or the NRC, to do it.

          And if even ONE person started independently testing food and finding dangerous levels of radiation, think of how powerful that would be toward really making change. Frustrated that your friends and family aren't paying attention to Fukushima? Try telling them that an ordinary person in your city is testing foods their kids eat, like milk, or meat, or eggs or broccoli, and finding scary levels of radiation.

          Try standing in your friends' kitchens for an hour or two and showing them in person that their fridge has radioactive tuna salad in it.

          That is something that we COULD do.

          Yes, gear sounds expensive. But truly, if we really think our kids and our neighbors and anyone we care about including other people on this SITE are all being poisoned by bioaccumulation in our food supply, isn't it worth scraping up the money? And how many of us have seen our kids raise hundreds of dollars selling girl scout cookies, etc, for nice, but not life-threatening causes? There are lots and lots of ways to raise money, and pool money together with like-minded people. Heck, you could use the tester for a while and get a sense of things, then donate it to a school for the tax deduction and get some of the cost back that way.


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        • richard richard

          Spend the money, then demand compensation from tepco.


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        • pacific

          Lastly, here's a food testing unit I saw online that looked good, I haven't researched it all but maybe someone else will want to:
          it's called the "Anna" and it's put out by SEA, Strahlerschutz-Entwicklungs-und Ausnustungs-Gesellschaft mbH,
          website http://www.sea-duelmen.de

          And Chris Busby wrote up a low-cost, low-tech way to test for alpha particles using a plastic that is etched by alpha particle paths. I've never seen it mentioned here, maybe someone will put it to good use.
          "Looking for Uranium in Environmental Samples with A Microscope"
          http://www.llrc.org/du/subtopic/detectingu.pdf

          I'm no hero, I really DON'T know what we should or shouldn't do, and like so many, I do feel overwhelmed much of the time. Certainly I'm not telling anyone else what to do.

          More information and less 'nothing we can do' or 'the only worthwhile thing is impossible' would be fine by me, though. So much of what you all post here is really useful and remarkable, thank you everyone again, including Vital, HT and WTK.

          Rant over :)

          … Wait!! While I'm here, extra special thanks to JoyB and Majia, and many other enenewsers really, whose posts and outside writing I follow with much interest and respect.


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          • vital1 vital1

            pacific,

            The unit I have researched and purchased for food testing has not been tried for this purpose before. It should work, but I have to set it up on a computer with free software and tune it. So some technical skills are involved.

            If I suggest it and it doesn't work a lot of people could purchase it and waste their money.

            I am hoping it will be nearly as good as the $18,000 unit and be able to pick up individual isotope contamination down to 20 becquerels.

            It also needs to have a DIY lead shieled food testing chamber built to screen out local background radiation noise. I estimate the cost for this to be another $300.

            Thanks to a friends suggestion I am also going to try potassium chloride as a check source to calibrate the unit. It is readily available and safe. Cesium 137 is usually used as a check source and would cost another $100 +. Cesium sort of defeats the purpose of trying to keep radioactive substances out of the environment.

            Unit cost $1700 + GST tax + $1870

            Food testing Chamber est. $300

            Once I have them I will post all my findings in this enenews forum.

            http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-dec-17-2011-present


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        • What-About-The-Kids

          Hey Pacific! Thanks for your great rant! Actually, it was more like a "pep talk" than a rant. I appreciated it! :-)

          I didn't mean to sound defeatist in my post to SendaiMom. Rather, I was just trying to explain some of the challenges we are facing vis-a-vie testing foodstuffs for radiation. But I didn't mean to give up trying! I just suggested that we will need a citizen-run testing network with high quality testing equipment, because I highly doubt our own government will be forthcoming with this information. (For example, the EPA used to test for plutonium in WA state drinking water up until 1987 or so. Why did they stop? Well, if you search their RADNET database, you'll see they actually did find extremely low levels of plutonium in the water. Where was it coming from? Perhaps from Hanford? Chernobyl? Why did they stop testing for it? My guess is they didn't want to freak people out. ("If we don't test for it, people won't know it's there and won't worry about it.")

          Anyway, if the FDA won't test or at least, reveal their test results for radiation in our food, then the citizens' network is the way to go. But would such a network be allowed to publish their data if they started finding alarming numbers in the food they tested? That is the big question (especially given the conversation in the recently released NRC transcripts in which they specifically said they would ask the folks at our National Labs to NOT do any testing for Fuku…


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            …in which they specifically said they would ask the folks at our National Labs to NOT do any testing for Fuku fallout. Obviously, if too many folks are testing too many things, efforts to control the information being released would be much harder to do. And when you have the tough job of trying to maintain calm and order and keep the economy running as smoothly as possible, controlling this type of potentially concerning information becomes extremely important.

            Anyway, I do hope we can get a citizens network going. Funds are limited for so many people these days, so creative financing or fundraising will be an important part of the equation. ;-)


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          • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

            Kids: I like the sound of "citizens network"! Get funding for the equipment from your local supermarket chains, who will want to reassure their customers that their food is safe. The lab should be incorporated as a not for profit 401C3, even if the labor is supplied by trained volunteers. A reminder: go to local lumber yard to purchase a roll of lead roofing material. This will be needed to keep background radiation from contaminating your food sample measurements. Cheap! Good luck, ang good going!


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  • StillJill StillJill

    Hello sendaimom!

    I remember you. :-)

    I am so glad you got re-united with your family,….and that the family is WHOLE! Way to go!!! :-)

    As for clean, safe food,…No,…..I do not know of ANYWHERE to buy guaranteed clean food,…sadly! :-(


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  • ML

    I would like to see honest numbers on cesium and strontium levels throughout the US and in the foods sold here. I would like to see major food distributers screening foods for radiation levels in a manner that can be checked by an independent third party.
    After Norway began testing milk post Chernobyl, then the US military bases in Germany tested foods sold in the commissaries.
    If West Coast food is indeed still safe (meaning below 0.05 microSv/hr) then let us all know that. If it changes, let us know. But with all the lies to date, third party verification will be needed. Who can we trust?
    Please monitor changes in bacteria in the soil, because that may be the first indication of things going awry.
    If we continue to have contamination and more may be coming, we need ongoing verifiable measurements.


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    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Busby suggests that the lowest-risk food measurement is less than 50 Bq/kg, but this is becoming increasingly impossible. Even the UK has had a 1000 Bq/kg "safety" limit on lamb meat since Chernobyl, 1986.


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    • Arizonan Arizonan

      You would think the FDA was paid by taxpayers to assure us a safe food supply, wouldn't you? Why aren't they testing? Why aren't more people in more nations demanding these tests in the global aftermath of Fukushima? I want to see clear isotopic breakdowns including Pu in Bq/kg not just for Cs-137.


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  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    It is impossible to do… no one can test all food. The best you can hope for is 1%, if that.

    Since there is no international standard, you would not know what you are getting anyway. Trying to test any food item for all 1,000 radioactive substances is impossible.

    Radiation dangers in food and water; via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/radiation-contamination-standards-for.html

    Radioactive Bananas? Peeling The Mystery; via A Green Road Blogm http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/radioactive-bananas-peeling-mystery.html

    Radiation Safety Standards for Food: Comparing Chernobyl vs Fukushima; via A Green Road Blog
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/radiation-safety-standards-for-food.html


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  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    Bottom line, this is an invisible war going on, and most people do not even know that these invisible radiation bullets are coming their way, every day.

    Hot Particles (Fuel Fleas) From Fukushima Continue To Circulate Globally; via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/hot-particles-from-fukushima-continue.html


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  • HoTaters

    "Prevailing winds pushed insignificant quantities of radioactive iodine-131 from Japan across the Pacific to the United States following the March 11, 2011, quake and tsunami. The delivery capacities of the ocean have been efficient as well, as The Oregonian's Charles Pope reported a California researcher discovering radioactive iodine in sea kelp reaching the U.S. coast after the incident. "

    Insignificant quantities? (from the full article)


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  • HoTaters

    If someone wants to post at the Oregon editorial site, IMHO they should be made aware they have made a blatant mis-statement of fact. I can't seem to get through to the Editorial people.


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  • hbjon hbjon

    Not all white men share or support the view that expansionary holocaust is the best plan for humanity. This view was pushed and driven in the second half of the last century by economics and industry supported by new science paradigms. The synthesis of ammonia from nitrogen and hydrogen allows for artificially high crop yields. Populations double and triple at much faster rates leaving their bodies craving the depleted trace minerals, that no longer exist in soils. The result, imho, will be the immediate uptake of the toxic alkali and rare hearth metals being produced. Not to mention U, P, and others. God help us.


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  • sonnen.blum.239 sonnen.blum.239

    We as consumers need to press the distributors as well as FDA and other governmental entities for full disclosure on sourcing and levels. Armed with only my Inspector Alert, I can make calculated guesses when something is "hot" and if it is "hot" I don't eat it. As a survivor thus far of cesium in the 50's and 60's, and knowing that isotopes bio accumulate, I am careful to not eat anything from the west coast nor Japan nor the pPacific. But that it just me, and my rules, and not an alarmist, I still eat west coast cheese regardless of the amount of isotopes (varied) in the organic milk from marin County used to make the cheese. (I look both ways before crossing the street. Notwithstanding I have been struck by things that I cannot see.) Welcome Sendaimom, so sorry for your losses of homeland. So sorryt for the rest of the world as this crisis unfolds. Kudos to a legislator who risked health by seeing for himself. Better late than never is not a good thing when it comes to this way of boiling water.


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  • howardtlewisiii

    This is a pathetically weak report. A thousand fission plant builders across the world knew as soon as these reactors exploded, regardless the cause, severe contamination problems would be blowing across the oceans and beyond. It was obvious several reactors were in full meltdown by nightfall. This should teach Americans not to vote for some lame idiot because his mommy dressed him nice. Now, we all pay. I curse the fools and their worshippers. The liars got to this point by lying and dog humanity lapping it up.


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