KATC: “Sinkhole Concerns Surface at Lake Peigneur” 50 miles away — “There’s bubbling on the south side… white foam” — Scientists yet to determine cause (VIDEOS)

Published: October 8th, 2012 at 8:58 pm ET
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Title: Bayou Corne Sinkhole Raises Concerns at Lake Peigneur
Source: KATC
Author: Maddie Garrett
Date: Oct 8, 2012

Video Title: Sinkhole Concerns Surface at Lake Peigneur

[...] at Lake Peigneur, residents said they’ve seen bubbling around the lake, and believe it’s a warning sign.

“There’s bubbling on the south side of the lake, and it’s usually about the same spot,” said Derise. “It’ll be a white foam that you can actually break up.”

Scientists have not yet determined what could be causing the bubbling.

More on the somewhat infamous Lake Peigneur:

Published: October 8th, 2012 at 8:58 pm ET
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11 comments to KATC: “Sinkhole Concerns Surface at Lake Peigneur” 50 miles away — “There’s bubbling on the south side… white foam” — Scientists yet to determine cause (VIDEOS)

  • PavewayIII PavewayIII

    There isn't any direct connection between the foam on Lake Peigneur and the sinkhole. There are two salt caverns used for natural gas storage, so the guy is concerned about cavern storage in general. Some other reports said bubbling has increased on the lake lately.

    The underlying issue for residents is that AEP and the Louisiana mineral board apparently strong-armed the permitting of the first two storage caverns under Lake Peigneur. Atlanta Gas Light (AGL) now owns them. They're right in the middle of the lake over the Jefferson Island Salt Dome. That's the same dome that Diamond Shamrock was mining salt from when Texaco accidentally drilled into it.

    The general area around the lake is a rat's nest of pipelines that feed the Henry Hub:

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aglr.com%2Fpdfs%2FJISH_Pipelines.pdf

    How much natural gas can the company store there? Up to 7.5 Billion cubic feet of natural gas at AGL's Jefferson Island Storage & Hub, and the company wants to add two additional caverns. No wonder this guy is worried. Nothing like a blast furnace sinkhole to ruin your day.


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  • Maggie123

    I much appreciate your information on this, Pavewaylll. I thought the video referenced in the title might be of the newly reported bubbling/foam. It's good I guess for the Peigneur disaster footage to be posted on ENE for those who've not seen it – stunning proof that nature's "ordinary dynamics" are unforgiving when we don't plan for all possibilities!


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    • Maggie123

      Clearly I'm up too late! I had come to this item via clicking on your comment then scrolled up – but not far enough! Have now seen the TV report on current bubbling/foam. The cheery industry spokesperson uses that all-too-familiar dismissive line of reassurance: "That was over 30 years ago, technology has improved". (Translation: "These non-industry folks just don't get it – we know what we're doing; they can trust us.")


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      • PavewayIII PavewayIII

        The technology has improved, but apparently not the amoral attitude of the energy companies.

        The social cost of a facility in a populated area is monitoring and investigation. The guy living on Lake Peigneur does not have an x-ray spectrometer sitting in his basement in case he notices bubbles. It's not up to the residents to prove something is related to AGL's storage caverns (or Texas Brine's for that matter). Its up to the companies to prove and continue to prove their operations and facilities are not a danger to the public and environment.

        Louisiana Mines and Minerals and the state EPA is infused with the same psychopaths that run the regulated energy companys. I feel bad for the residents, but Louisiana is a lost cause. The state sold its soul to the devil years ago.


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  • Radio VicFromOregon

    Ok, i'll go along for a moment that there is no connection, and for me, this is a big stretch, cuz the whole dang universe is connected. Wait… sorry, i can't. They can't not be connected, but, in "science", when the term "connected" is used, it means a direct causal link. Of course, in my view of the universe, everything is a causal link, however tiny. But, all that aside for a moment, i still do not get how it is possible that local geologists do not know the cause. I've never known any geologist who didn't have very clear, defined opinions given that the field is considered a hard science, meaning physical, tangible, measurable, perceivable and not given to much change or transmutative properties. You take one sweep of a sensory wand over the bubbling and you know what you have. If you know what you have, then, in geology, you know the various theories that explain the cause. It IS that simple. I am boggled.


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    • harengus_acidophilus

      Yes, strange situation.

      We live in the 21th century, not in the middle ages.
      But they "guess" about "unknown gas".

      They know but won't tell.
      Because of "good reasons"?

      "Tell us about it, Janet!"
      (The Rocky Horror Picture Show)

      h.


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  • michellemamarn

    Can we be sure this isn't connected? They've discussed 75 miles of pipeline and salt domes that are interconnected?


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  • dosdos dosdos

    Man has been abusing salt domes for decades, and their fellow men have been paying the price for decades. Gulf coast history is dotted with all sorts of salt dome disasters. What is new is fracking sludge being dropped into them, making the disasters very obvious to the eye. I'm expecting a whole series of dome failures in the next couple of years because of it.


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  • minkxy minkxy

    Love how they want to take natural gas OUT of the ground and store it BACK in the ground . Do they ever hear themselves.Leave it in the ground where it is until you need it. Hey spokesperson…..clearly we would have thought technology would have came farther by now.Corne bayou proves differently. The companies cannot make sure nothing will happen in the future, like a drill bit piercing cone. Forget them.


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  • arclight arclight

    repost :(
    Breaking! BP Gulf disaster -Food chain damage likely on the way

    “The damage that we don’t see could be far worse,” he said. “The subsurface ecosystem damage can damage the genetic make up of and productivity of these ecosystems.”

    He said that the chemicals released by the initial spill accumulate upward in the food chain, and “reach levels above the threshold of what causes genetic damage in marine species, and may further cause cancer in seafood consuming humans.”

    “If anyone is still accepting BPs assertions that this is not an environmental disaster any longer, this is an eye opener,” he added.

    http://nuclear-news.net/2012/10/09/breaking-bp-gulf-disaster-food-chain-damage-likely-on-the-way/


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