Published: March 19th, 2012 at 8:55 pm ET
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Title: Survey finds soaring cesium level in soil in Iitate
Source: Kyodo
Date: March 20, 2012
Survey finds soaring cesium level in soil in Iitate
The Environment Ministry said Monday that a soaring cesium reading of 154,000 becquerels per kilogram has been logged in soil from the village of Iitate, Fukushima Prefecture, the highest level yet.
[...] reading came from soil taken from the banks of the Niida River in Iitate
[...] above the level that requires incinerated ash to be buried in sites with ferroconcrete partitions, which is 100,000 becquerels.
The ministry survey, its third, was conducted from Jan. 5 to Jan. 27 [...]
Read the report here
Published: March 19th, 2012 at 8:55 pm ET
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So Fukushima is only 10% of Chernobyl? I think not.
"After the 1986 Chernobyl accident, the most highly contaminated areas were defined as those with over 1490 kilobecquerels (kBq) of caesium per square metre. Produce from soil with 550 kBq/m2 was destroyed."
Our old "friends" at Newscientist penned those pixels:
http://www.newscientist.com/mobile/article/dn20305-caesium-fallout-from-fukushima-rivals-chernobyl.html
How to convert becquerels:
http://www.unitconversion.org/radiation-activity/kilobecquerels-to-becquerels-conversion.html
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sick im on ur side but im not catching ur drift. 1490 kBq is = 1,490,000 bq.
however, we're going from 1,490,000 bq/ SQUARE METERS,
so whats a kilorgram of soil to a square meter of soil? does this conversion make the samples in FUKU higher than chernobyl??
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I think you multiply by 65 to get Bq per square meter. That makes it 10,000 kBq per square meter, or more than 6 times the worst Chernobyl designation.
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6 times Chernobyl would be correct if you don't count all the trillions of undocumented water releases for a year. The readings around the plant are also not calculating alpha emitters which are harder to detect. I was shooting for 8-12 times worse than Chernobyl if you include water contamination. It could be a lot worse, but due to the ritual stamping out of scientific truth reported in the media data has been hard to come by.
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Rough estimate is that Fukushima is about 75X Chernobyl so far and about 1/2 of the nuke fuel is released.
In the end it will be about 150x as bad as Chernobyl.
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I think that's about right. The total of the nuclear bomb tests in the 50s-60s was around 60X Chernobyl.
If you look at the maps of Chernobyl contamination, the worst was to the north and west in Belarus and Russia. That is because the prevailing winds at the time carried it in that direction. The prevailing winds from Fukushima carried the contamination over the ocean, and we don't have the measurements. Areas like Iitate didn't get the worst of it. It just got the worst of the portion that fell on the land.
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Total Fukushima Radiation Released Into Ocean, Air, Groundwater, Storage Tanks via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/02/total-fukushima-radiation-released-into.html
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They also penned these pixels..
"With thousands of people in northern Japan made homeless by the tsunami, further evacuation of areas affected by the uncertain risk of fallout seems unlikely."
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It's going to be a bigger fight than we think http://www.energydigger.com/articles/2012-03-19/scientists-attack-european-commission-over-fukushima-overreaction.aspx?utm_source=feeds.energydigger.com&utm_medium=RSS
PLUS Outlaw Occupy: US set to strangle protests with jail threats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4IySuIhU3E
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***Mr Oettinger’s words were “based on interpretation of international press reports and not on any scientific analysis”.
“Unsurprisingly, the words were reported around the globe and were cited in reports of several countries’ plans to drop nuclear energy programmes, again before a proper scientific analysis was conducted,” they write.
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The commission had “repeatedly refused to address the question, referring flippantly to ‘semantic details’ before refusing to discuss the matter any further”, the letter claims.
“We are deeply worried by the bizarre approach to risk communication…which has now reached such a position of obstruction and irresponsibility that we would ask you to intervene,” it adds.
“Would you establish that evidence-based and responsible risk communication is taken seriously and that the commission will adopt higher standards with respect to future public communication about energy, nuclear and otherwise?”***
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****17 March 2012
A group of scientists involved in public discussions about nuclear power have written an open letter to David Willetts protesting about the European commissioner for energy’s “bizarre” talk of an apocalypse in relation to last year’s Fukushima disaster.****
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Fukushima won't be "our" apocalypse, but 2 to 4 more of those, and we are toast.
In the meantime, perhaps you should take your trollness elsewhere
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Anthony needs to do some more research
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50 years ago the doctors believed that you couldn't tell people is they had cancer. They just did surgery.
My grandmother died of cancer with the best doctors in Southern California in 1966. No one was allowed to tell her that she had cancer. So she had no one to talk to about it. No one was allowed chemotherapy because it was known that it was poison.
It has been said that the treatments for cancer will some day be put in the books along side blood letting in the middle ages.
The panel that Anthony is quoting is misinformed either from ignorance or from intention. Academic degrees in all too many cases are granted on book knowledge and going along with the status quo, and not based on any helpful wisdom.
Medicine in America is too much based on profit.
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Thank you for understanding the intention of my post. Personally I think we remain ignorant by not being aware of the *other side`s position* – distasteful or not.
It is that ignorance that led the public the place we are in.
A year ago I wouldn't have been able to tell the lies from the truths.
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Wrong thread. Belongs here:
http://enenews.com/forum-links-articles-reports-posts-contain-false-misleading-information-related-energy-issues
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If anyone has time, check out the Nuclear Energy Institute at http:/www.nei.org. In particular look for their membership roster at http://www.nei.org/resourcesandstats/documentlibrary/aboutnei/memberinfo/nei-governance-and-membership-roster.
Open the pdf and see all the culprits. I guess when your pockets are that deep, anyone can be bought.
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Sumitomo Mitsui bank has long standing ties with Tepco, going back to the 1950's. Mitsui Bank is one of the members of the NEI.
See this Reuters article:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/22/japan-tepco-idUSL4E7GK21520110522
Yep, I'd say they're all in it together, up to their eyeballs.
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Title of the article: "Special Report: Inside Tepco's Bailout
Japan, Inc. Saves Its Own"
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Were Mitsui one of those that moved out of Tokyo a week or so back?
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we're doomed…
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Hi,Anthony..I read this…
Well….they can call it bizarre all they want..
The lessons of Fukushima have only begun.
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Hey Heart here is something more interesting to me :
Solar power station in Spain works at night
By Katell Abiven | AFP – 7 hours ago
A unique thermosolar power station in southern Spain can shrug off cloudy days: energy stored when the sun shines lets it produce electricity even during the night.
The Gemasolar station, up and running since last May, stands out in the plains of Andalusia.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/solar-power-station-spain-works-night-000342166.html
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And this:
Japan's majority favor phasing out nuclear power: poll
Reuters – Sun, 18 Mar, 2012
TOKYO (Reuters) – A vast majority of Japanese favor the gradual phasing out of nuclear plants but accept that some reactors need to be restarted to secure enough power in the short term, a newspaper poll showed on Sunday.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/japans-majority-favor-phasing-nuclear-power-poll-041801621.html
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They can't talk this away….."something has to give"…
This is an ongoing nuclear event …. with geological involvement..This is exposure of every living life form to the effects of radiation.
"Bizarre" ..is watching people that willing to lie for their jobs..to the point… of selling their souls.
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It is amazing….hmmm lets see high energy particles blasting your cells apart, damaging your DNA, lowering your overall resistance, could that possible be bad for you?
This pimps will find a special place in hell waiting for them.
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PS..Ya….you freaks..you hear me?
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Has anyone noticed and uptick in leukemia diagnosis on the west coast this past year?
We just lost someone to AML in our area and he was an outdoor guy and an avid runner. Came down with it in October and gone today.
Someone else I know came down with CML. Thats two cases in the last 6 months in a very small circle?
Seems strange to me but I warned everyone to stay indoors and out of the rains.
Not sure anyone listened.
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Two of my neighbors (both in their 50's) have contracted serious cancers in the past year. One had a tumor on his head, and was apparently strong as an ox prior. The other one (female) has just developed spinal cancer. Not pretty.
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An easily identifiable corporate and American government based entity oversaw the construction of self-destroying WTCs, DeepWater horizon oil rig and well, and the Fukushima plant. We must work quietly and with resolute to make sure these morons never again reach such heights of arrogance and psychopathic ambition or rule. Dump the Federal Reserve/Rothschild banking systems. Stop doing business with any and all agents of Britannia. And realize those images and dreams we are having of queen lizard of England crawling up our leg with a knife clenched in her teeth are reasonable and logical dreams to have. They have been for centuries.
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Indeed, the Economic Hitmen and the problems we face with these energy disasters are one in the same problem.
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Masters of the Corpocracy, or was that the Kleptocracy? Gee, I get them confused sometimes.
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How about Plutocracy?
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John Perkins tells it like it is. So do Gerald Celente and Max Keiser. I find the commentary of the latter two very, very humorous. Gerald Celente calls a spade, a spade, and Max Keiser has some of the best acerbic humor I've ever seen.
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Queen Lizard. hahahahaha!
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Global orchestrated chaos… OKC, 911, 311 include staged
acts of terror to coalesce humanities fears about events
while pooling power and resources.
Had to log on to post…
Follow John Perkins.
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US NRC intervention increased Japanese public fear factor
Published March 19, 2012 Nuclear Power , Nuclear Risk Assessment Leave a Comment
Tags: Nuclear Power
Barry Brook’s BraveNewClimate.com offers a wealth of information and commentary on climate and energy policy issues. The value of comments is enhanced by contributors who make their living in various energy-related professions. Today we have a perfect example of such informed commentary:
The Japanese reaction to shutdown most of their reactors following the Fukushima event was caused in part by the US NRC intervention to expand the exclusion zone to fifty miles. This greatly increased the public fear factor and made the Japanese officials appear more inept in dealing with the crisis. Japan cannot afford to keep the nuclear plants shutdown without suffering an economic meltdown. What is needed now is an indepth review by an international expert panel to provide Japan with the basis to safely restart their plants. The US should lead this panel since the Japanese nuclear program is a mirror of the US program in all respects but crisis management.
Ray A. Hunter
Former Deputy Director,
Office of Nuclear Energy, Science and Technology
United States Department of Energy.
http://seekerblog.com/2012/03/19/us-nrc-intervention-increased-japanese-public-fear-factor/
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I think this is a key statement to consider.
***the Japanese nuclear program is a mirror of the US program in all respects but crisis management.***
I think knowing the differences in the US crisis management is important.
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Nuke sucks no matter how well the crisis is managed.
And by managed, i don't mean covered up.
It is not possible to safely restart a plant, which is what this pimp is proclaiming we do….in fact this pimp is saying that the US ought to takeover the role of "a review" to restart the Japanese reactors when only 5% of the Japanese want to restart nuke. Take your crack and like it!
It is not possible to safely run any nuke plant, over 1% of them blow up or meltdown or both.
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Agreed.
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Fukushima’s Refugees Are Victims Of Irrational Fear, Not Radiation
Published March 12, 2012 Nuclear Power , Nuclear Risk Assessment 10 Comments
Tags: LNT, Nuclear, Nuclear Power, Power
Amid the Fukushima hysteria Germany has decided to shut down its nuclear reactors and import more natural gas from Putin and more nuclear energy from France and the Czechs. This does not make sense, either economically, politically or with respect to safety. If Germans or Japanese are that worried about radiation then a more sensible course of action would be to stop eating potato chips, beets, brazil nuts and bananas, all of which are relatively high but ultimately harmless sources of radiation.
http://seekerblog.com/2012/03/12/fukushimas-refugees-are-victims-of-irrational-fear-not-radiation/#comment-4531
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Classic weasel word analogies. Bait and switch. Garbage in, garbage out!
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What bothers me is the levels and levels of lies. These came from a Pro Nuke website which seems pretty dedicated to damage control at all costs.
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The NRC intervention increased my fear factor …too.
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I took a lot of guff around here for my negative opinion of Mr.Jaczko and the NRC.
They have been involved from the beginning..
They helped orchestrate the coverup..
Scary….
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Jackzo was the only one with any guts and they effectively brought him to the point of being sacked, unless he backed off. Now they allow him to be one bad cop and 4 good cops.
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Bill Magwood is one to watch.
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Whats up with him
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Jaczko..is the "OK" guy in the NRC docs…
The 50 mile evac…is standard protocal…the whole group NRC and might I add… the State Dept…. backed away from this.
Anyone that has read the NRC FOIA doc and listened to the recent committee hearing can see..Jascko's involvement and his lies.
Under his leadership ..the first new licensing of a new nuclear reactor has been given.
If he was so concerned about the safety of the people…he should tell the truth aand resign…
What?
Why is it we expect so little from others..?
Oh…because that's the way the game is played.
This type mentality on the part of the people has to change …the way the game is played has to change.
Ya..I'll call it… a matter of life and death.
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Some people would, rather than handing all the reins to the jackals, prefer to remain in power hoping they could still make a difference.
Not saying this is Jackzo, but it is definitely a possibility.
That said, I have been in similar circumstances, and in retrospect, although the stakes were not as high(I was just removing all the bombs from an island), I wished that I would have resigned at maybe the second sign of malfeasance from the company owner. Instead, I hung on thinking I could make a difference, maybe I did, no one died on my watch.
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stock@hawaii.rr.com on March 20, 2012 at 8:00 am said,
"Some people would, rather than handing all the reins to the jackals, prefer to remain in power hoping they could still make a difference."
Yes, but that doesn't work: check out any period or event in human history. You can't beat them, and end up joining them. The only decent response is to bail out and joint the opposition.
The simplest explanation is that staying around is a massive conflict of interest.
HTH
M
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Sorry stock. Should have read your final paragraph. Well done and my apologies. I was thinking a little bit longer term is the explanation I should have emphasised. You can beat them off once while they still need you, but rest assured while you are working your butt off saving the world they are working their beer elbows off figuring out your weak points and optimal self-dismissal profile.
[warning may contain traces of bureauspeak].
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Dear Misitu: Very true and well said.
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Thanks Pallas. I believe it's helpful to reinforce expressions that help maintain the consistency of purpose of this site.
Sometimes I'm too quick to react appropriately. Hence the occasional return to check for responses.
Cheers!
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With a public that will not listen, a media that is mostly unwilling and/or unable to report nuclear issues properly, what makes you think a public resignation by Jaczko would do anything positive? I can tell you that the nuke pimps would throw a victory party if Jaczko resigned.
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Andrew, in the end it's one's own conscience. Fuck the nuke pimps even if they're the last out the door.
Apologies for distressingly objectionable language.
IE everything from "even" to the end.
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Risks and Effects of Radiation: Putting Fukushima in Context
Published March 15, 2012 Nuclear Power , Nuclear Risk Assessment 1 Comment
Tags: LNT, Nuclear Power
The Health Physics Society panel held 1 March 2012 should be an excellent source of objective Fukushima risk assessment. The proceedings have not yet been published — meanwhile here is the HPS announcement:
As the world remembers the one-year anniversary of the 2011 tsunami that devastated Japan and set off a tragic chain of events that included the nuclear reactor incident in Fukushima, the panel of leading scientific and medical experts reported on the risks and effects of radiation on the Japanese and other populations. A first-hand account of the impacts on the Fukushima population was provided by two members of the distinguished panel. The discussions included the health effects of radiation immediately following the event to present day and an analysis of future risks for the population.
The panel consisted of John Boice, ScD; Robert Emery, DrPH, CHP, CIH; Robert Peter Gale, MD, PhD, DS. (Hon); Kathryn Higley, PhD, CHP; and Richard Vetter, PhD, CHP. It was moderated by Howard Dickson, CHP, CSP, and CIH.
Members of the Washington panel agreed that while they considered the physical health risks from the exposure too small to measure, the accident would still have an impact. Psychological trauma from the evacuation and months away from home could end up being the biggest health risk from the accident.
Dr. Gale said he believed the exaggerated environmental and health risk claims from alarmists could backfire by making it harder for people in Fukushima Prefecture to resume their normal lives and businesses. “Already we see a stigmatization of people from that area or products from that area,” he said. “It’s very hard for them to survive. It’s quite unfortunate.”
http://seekerblog.com/2012/03/15/risks-and-effects-of-radiation-putting-fukushima-in-context/#comment-4513
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****Dr. Gale said he believed the exaggerated environmental and health risk claims from alarmists could backfire by making it harder for people in Fukushima Prefecture to resume their normal lives and businesses. “Already we see a stigmatization of people from that area or products from that area,” he said. “It’s very hard for them to survive. It’s quite unfortunate.”
While the quake and tsunami killed an estimated 20,000 people, radiation has not killed anyone so far, and members of the Health Physics Society, drawn from academia, medicine, and the nuclear industry, suggested that the doses were too small to have much effect. “There’s no opportunity for conducting epidemiological studies that have any chance of success,” said Dr. Boice. “The doses are just too low. If you were to do a proposal, it would not pass a scientific review.”****
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***Gale presented preliminary data on the 10,000 inhabitants near the Fukushima plant thought to have received the highest doses of radiation showing that:
5,800 received doses less than 1 millisievert (mSv).
4,100 received doses between 1 and 10 mSv.
71 received doses between 10 mSv and 20 mSv.
2 received doses between 20 mSv and 23 mSv.
By comparison, each year a resident of the United States receives an average total dose from background radiation of about 3.1 mSv.
Gale said it was important to translate these doses into something the general public could easily understand. These radiation doses indicate an “incredibly small” increase in risk of death from cancer of only 0.001 percent for a member of the Japanese public, he said. The increased risk of cancer incidence would be only 0.002 percent for a member of the Japanese public.
Such a small increase in the cancer rate would make it very hard to scientifically verify an increase in cancers that could be directly linked to the Fukushima accident.
“The exposures to the population are very, very low,” said John Boice, professor of medicine at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine and President Nominee of the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements. “As such, there is no opportunity to conduct epidemiological studies that have any chance of detecting excess [cancer] risk. The doses are just too low.”***
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The below is from the NEI.org website, the url is
http://www.nei.org/newsandevents/nei-backgrounders/myths–facts-about-nuclear-energy/myths–facts-about-radiation.
Myth: People died because of radiation from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility accident in Japan.
Fact: There is no evidence that any person has died because of radiation exposure associated with the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility. In Japan, a small nuclear of workers received radiation doses that may increase the risk of cancer over their lifetimes, but none of the workers’ exposure is considered life-threatening. Protective actions being taken by the Japanese government, including long-term evacuation of nearby residents, area decontamination and extensive radiation monitoring, are expected to avert significant radiological health consequences among the citizens of Japan. In the United States, extensive radiation monitoring by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s national radiation monitoring network, at American commercial nuclear power plants and U.S. Department of Energy facilities detected extremely low levels of radiation thousands of times below government limits that pose no threat to human health. In testimony before Congress, epidemiologist John Boice, who has spent his career studying human exposure to radiation, determined that the health consequences for Americans from the accident in Japan are minimal.
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There will be a special place in hell for pimps of disease.
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What do you expect from the policy organization of the nuclear industry?
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You are quite correct about what we should expect. What I have a deep ethical concern about is the coercion of our Universities etc. Like other ills currently in our society, these connections to nuclear energy are an absolute evil and against the public good. Maybe I am overstating how tight the bond is, but, as an example from the NEI member roster, Does the University of Tokyo have the freedom to publish anything which would place the nuclear industry in a bad light? Other university members below.
University of Alabama
University of Alberta
University of Antofagasta, Chile
University of Arizona
University of Bologna
University of California
University of Cincinnati
University of Colorado
University of Denver
University of Detroit
University of Florida
University of Idaho
University of Illinois
University of Maryland
University of Massachusetts
University of Michigan
University of Missouri
University of Nevada, Las Vegas
University of New Mexico
University of North Texas
University of Notre Dame
University of Pittsburgh
University of Rhode Island
University of South Carolina
The University of Tennessee
University of Texas at Austin
University of Texas of the Permian Basin
The University of the District of Columbia
The University of Tokyo
University of Virginia
University of Washington
University of Wisconsin
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TheBowRiver: These NEI universities own the lions share of expensive detection equipment in the US. This is equipment that could be doing things like measuring fallout, monitoring radiation in imports, and following radiation up the foodchain into the food on our store shelves. Instead of serving public health and safety, these universities maintain their silence. Their equipment will continue to be used in support of nuclear industry research, and not in the public interest.
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Uranium mining near the Grand Canyon?! Yes, if this law suit wins!
"Nuclear Industry Sues to Reverse Grand Canyon Uranium Land Withdrawal"
"The Nuclear Energy Institute and the National Mining Association, Monday filed a federal lawsuit seeking to reverse the Obama administration's withdrawal of one million acres of public land in Arizona from uranium mining for 20 years."
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/mar2012/2012-03-01-092.html
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Hi philipupnorth, Thank you for the insight. See part of the Japanese constitution below. It seems that the nuclear industry is all powerful. It is also my belief that the nuclear industry is solely to blame for this ongoing tragedy. I do not call for violence or illegal acts from the citizens of Japan. I am not a lawyer, but I am wondering if the people of Japan can collectively stop the madness.
We, the Japanese people, acting through our duly elected representatives in the National Diet, determined that we shall secure for ourselves and our posterity the fruits of peaceful cooperation with all nations and the blessings of liberty throughout this land, and resolved that never again shall we be visited with the horrors of war through the action of government, do proclaim that sovereign power resides with the people and do firmly establish this Constitution. Government is a sacred trust of the people, the authority for which is derived from the people, the powers of which are exercised by the representatives of the people, and the benefits of which are enjoyed by the people. This is a universal principle of mankind upon which this Constitution is founded. We reject and revoke all constitutions, laws, ordinances and rescripts in conflict herewith.
This may hold a clue on how the people of Japan collectively can stop the nuclear industry. Or, at least make their government accountable to their own citizens, instead of putting them in harms way.
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TheBowRiver: you have a wonderful constitution. So do we in the US. Like with Japan, we dozed while the nukes were built with our money. We are in the process of taking back our Constitution, our government, and will be ending nuke power. May your constitution serve you well. My heart goes out to you. Where do you live? And why are you still in Japan?
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Hi philipupnorth, I am in western Canada and as far as the nuclear industry is concerned, I do not like bullies. As the saying goes, evil triumphs when good people do nothing. Even though the nuclear industry has unlimited power and money, we, in solidarity with the people of Japan, can stand together and say no more.
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I suggest you all use this document as one of your resources to prove to those who say "No one has died from the Fukushima Nuclear disaster", they are totally wrong.
This occurred in the first few days of the disaster. In this correspondence between the NRC and the Japanese, the Japanese admitted to 5 people having received lethal radiation doses.
http://enformable.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Pascarelli-Robert.png
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Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the lifesaver.pdf (or create your own), hand it out, mailbox it, or email it.
Put it everywhere, libraries, notice boards, web pages, forums, Facebook, and tweet! Think outside the box.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lifesaver.pdf
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Nobody died from radiation at Fukushima?
or
There's no evidence anybody died from radiation at Fukushima?
Those are two different sentences and the meanings are totally different. In fact, quite a number of folks have died at or as a result of being at Fukushima in the past year.
-I know a couple died in the blast of #3 – I'd attribute that to the reactor meltdown, if not radiation in general.
- There were several reports of workers collapsing or having heart attacks. Well, they were working to clean up the radiation, so I would attribute that to radiation – if not directly, then indirectly.
- There have been several cases of cancer and death already – what happened to the plant manager who came down with throat cancer in December? Wasn't there an actor and a couple reporters who contracted cancer?
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Anthony is this some kind of joke?
Your statements and those in Washington make no sense what so ever.
Assessment of what?
Nothing has been assessed anywhere and in fact the nuclear melted cores have not even been seen or discovered one year later after this disaster.
Anyone with a brain in there heads does not need a panel of experts to tell them anything about death from cancer and disease.
All they have to do is call a family member and ask them how their cancer/disease is doing and how is it progressing.
Does your panel have any clue why 20% of the entire GDP of the United States is currently spent on Health Care?
I know we will blame this on the twinkies and the pink slime that was found in Mac's hamburgers.
Really? Please get real for once in your life and pay attention to what is happening worldwide.
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Whoa… relax yourself, really.
I am simply posting information on hand to the group to digest, thus the links where the articles come from.
Your rush to judgement is misguided and not appreciated.
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Anthony, not sure of your purpose here, but it seems that 2 things would be appropriate….
Just posting a small bit of an article and a link, so as not to overwhelm the use of space.
And presenting your opinion and interpretation of such article
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and not saying this is true, but otherwise it just looks like a psy-ops attempt at information overload and confusion at poorly organized statements, aka a mass media news report.
My humble opinion
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TheBowRiver:
Myth: Nuclear Power and Radiation Contamination is Safe and does not cause cancer or disease and is not a mutagenic to biological life.
Myth: No one has died from Fukushima 3 Plant Meltdown and or will die in the future from the Nuclear Meltdown radiation release and fallout traveling worldwide throughout the Northern Hemisphere. Which has now entered the Southern Hemisphere.
I love myths as both your minds are now drowning in them.
Mass population mind control is a beautiful thing.
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Oops..sorry guys I thought you might be the bad guys.
My humble apologies as I take my foot out of my mouth.
Got a little excited.
My armor is rather quick to judge.
My comments are for the "bad" guys and gals.
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np obewan. with all the lies and bull crap from the NRC side, it's enough to make one insane. I cannot imagine how all of this is impacting the Japanese people.
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If the group will permit me one last comment about the Nuclear Energy Institute and the affiliation with universities in it's membership.
My concern is that just the name affiliation in the NEI membership roster for this large number of schools, gives possibly undue credibility to the nuclear industry self serving propaganda.
I would hope, maybe in my naivety, that each of the universities would have their own internal code of ethics or arms length agreements with outside money.
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So they found this enormously high level in river bank soil? I remember reading a post (I think it was on Ex-SKF) about a citizen who said trucks were coming at night unloading "stuff" at the river.
Does anyone else remember or care to look? Typing on the fly here, off to work..
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Found it back – it was on enenews!
http://enenews.com/freelance-japanese-journalist-fukushima-govt-dumping-tons-radioactive-mud-decontamination-river-night
The river he's talking about is nowhere near Iitate, but maybe they had that bright idea in Iitate as well.
I just checked on Google Earth – a river flowing from Iitate will run through minamisoma as well on its way to the ocean.
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I beefed up and improved what I think is THE slam dunk proof of dangers of MOX and that we all did get some of it.
Under the Conservative Estimate, and using .89% Plutonium per Table 1, this would be 433 pounds of Plutonium aerosolized. But keep in mind the MOX fuel is souped up with Plutonium which could be more like 9% to 10% of the fuel rods, so it is possible that TONS of Plutonium was launched into our HOME PLANET atmosphere.
Real proof of that fact here, please take 10 minutes to absorb it.
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/p/uranium-aerosolized-into-atmosphere.html
PS my blog
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12 Reasons Why ALL Nuclear Power Plants Must Be Shut Down http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/12-reasons-why-all-nuclear-power-plants.html
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I agree that hundreds of pounds of plutonium was liberated from Fukushima, OR MORE….All of this has been covered up..
How Dangerous Is 400-600 Pounds Of Plutonium Nano Particle Dust Liberated By Fukushima? Via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/how-dangerous-is-400-600-pounds-of.html
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It really could be as high as 2000 pounds, thats a big PU.
I did my first calcs on the used fuel .9%, but with mox it could be alot higher percent 5% to 10%
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By my calculation there was between 300 and 500 pounds of MOX plutonium in reactor 3 at the time of the explosion.
According to reports 32 MOX fuel assemblies (of 548 total in the core) were MOX.
I've heard plutonium in the MOX was 9% but I've also heard a 6% number as well.
I've also heard the full load was about 50 tons of fuel.
Assuming 100,000 lbs of fuel total and 32/548 were Mox that indicates about 3 tons of MOX.
At 6% that's 350 pounds; at 9% that's 526 pounds of plutoniun. So 350 to 525 lbs of plutonium oxide which potentially could have come out of the core in nanometer powder form.
Now, the remainder of the fuel had some plutonium (by my eestimation another 300-400lbs or so) also that was bred from the fission of Uranium – but that plutonium was physically in the form of converted Uranium oxide – not ground nearly as fine, and I don't think nearly as likely to fly far from the plant in the air.
Now the question of whether the explosion was nuclear, or just a steam flash is relevant.
Here's why: If it were a nuclear explosion – a dirty bomb – then theoretically all 600-900 lbs of plutonium could have been aerosolized and could be deadly around the world.
If it were merely a pressure and steam flash (which is my theory) then only 350 to 525 lbs of plutonium could have launched.
Personally I believe about 50-75% of the fuel launched – but only a small portion of that actually went into the atmosphere. Most I think rained back down on the reactor site. .
You'll Recall that one of the first things they did after the explosions was start spraying the "green goo" on everything to keep the dust down – that's why.
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They will only evacuate if thousands start dying. The experts know right now Japan is finished. They know they are just delaying. If they said to evacaute half the island including Tokyo, then nuclear energy might be finished. People might say we have had it with nuclear power. But we have short memories and we might need one more disaster, maybe in the USA. We don't need nuclear energy. If they just grew hemp. Most people don't know all they are doing is heating up water to create steam.
Is it worth it to destroy so much land? How many hundreds of thousands were killed with Chernobyl and how many millions of people have cancer? They say a life is priceless. It's time the people started tearing down these nuke plants. They only keep them going, because of the enormous profit building them and selling fuel. Do we need this kind of electricity? We only created these nuke plants, because of something created out of war. If we knew these plants with their meltdowns and the waste they are dumping into the ocean have killed a million and caused 10 million to become sick we would demand they close these toxic waste creating bastards.
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Awesome post with lots of truth.
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On a roll today, patroit. (unlike Anthony, who seems to be lost in wonderland today…)
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If we want the world to have peace and be clean the common citizens have to admit we got to do it. If we elected ordinary citizens to public office and they served one year and then replaced, then bankers, lobbyists and corporations would not be able to control them. Nobody would vote for something so destructive like war or more immigration and have to listen to people in their community. They would vote for what's right. Instead we get career politicians that do whatever the deep pockets tell them. These people who own these corporations create these huge foundations and pay no taxes and the only way they get away with it is career politicians. We need to have more people into the process of running the government. With more people ordinary citizens we would control our country. We could force the corporations to pay their share and citizens would not pay taxes on their labor.
Look at your FICA tax and think if each week that amount of money were dumped into the community each week and if we pulled all our soldiers out and came home.
Why do we need 1.8 million soldiers? Prior to WWI we didn't have any soldiers. When WWII started we had very few soldiers. Why with all the technology do we need to have millions of soldiers on the government payroll?
Because we allow career politicians to rule us we end up taxed to the max, nuclear waste and wars.
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The saga continues as a 7.6 hits Mexico!
Read up on Nuclear power inside Mexico. This plant might be sitting directly on fault lines.
Yummy!
http://books.google.com/books?id=3wUAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA36&lpg=PA36&dq=Veracruz+nuclear+plant+is+sitting+on+fault+line&source=bl&ots=QvISx9oRxr&sig=TD9_Ohc7Dwt9ww7QwuSA4wGxlng&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8thoT4bpI4GbiQLVi6yWBw&ved=0CFYQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Not that far from a fuel loaded Nuclear power plant in Mexico.
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/03/20/dangerous-7-4-magnitude-earthquake-struck-guerrero-and-oaxaca-mexico/
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@obewanspeaks – thanks for the info. I appreciate it when someone goes that extra mile in researching something.
—-> Heads up Floridians – the winds can blow from Mexico to Florida, even if the jet stream isn't.
Get out your geiger counters if you have them, just in case there is something blowing around.
Keep an eye on the wind.
http://squall.sfsu.edu/scripts/nhemjetstream_model.html
http://www.wunderground.com
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