Kyodo: Spent Fuel Pool No. 4 visibility deteriorating — Major drop over past month — No where near what’s needed “to work at removing nuclear fuel”

Published: March 15th, 2012 at 10:39 pm ET


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Title: Water in Fukushima plant’s No. 4 spent fuel pool may be less clear
Source: Kyodo
Date: 23:38 15 March

The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant said Thursday that the clarity of water inside the spent fuel pool of the No. 4 unit may have deteriorated based on a survey conducted by a camera. 

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said that visibility in the pool is only about 1 meter, far less than the approximately 7 meters needed to work at removing nuclear fuel from the pool as part of the process of scrapping the four reactors severely damaged by last year’s nuclear accident.

About a month ago, the utility known as TEPCO was able to see about 5 meters through the spent fuel pool water. […]

Read the report here

Published: March 15th, 2012 at 10:39 pm ET


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60 comments to Kyodo: Spent Fuel Pool No. 4 visibility deteriorating — Major drop over past month — No where near what’s needed “to work at removing nuclear fuel”

  • norbu norbu

    So why dont they add "fresh" water to the pool so they can move the fuel rods. It does not take a PHD in physics to figure that out. If they new a month ago the water level was going down why did they not do something then. How come the NRC did not mention this today in there comedy show that they put on? They think everything is going back to normal! aaaaaa say what!


    This is how the article reads to me:
    "Clearly, the water level in SFP4 has deteriorated, and may have deteriorated the camera.
    The water may be 1 meter in depth,
    7 meter depth is required to remove heat from the nuclear fuel.
    Have scrapped the process of removing the spent fuel rods.
    A month ago the utility formerly known as tepco, sent a kamikaze soldier to within 5 meters of the SFP4, before they died"

    maybe way off… but these translated articles are wacky

    • dka

      I will translate here the Japanese version if someone can post it.


        dka- this is Copy-Pasted from the source article Fukushima Diary post
        "SFP of reactor4 became cloudy"


        • Nigwil

          Google Translate of the above Japanese gives:

          Cloudy pool No. 4, with impurities = reduced transparency? – Fukushima 1

          Tokyo Electric Power Company on April 15, announced the result of re-examination in the underwater camera in the spent fuel pool at Unit 4 nuclear power plant 1, Fukushima, transparency was about 5 meters in early February, and had been about one meter. Has examined from the viewpoint that there is no significant change in the fuel assembly of the body of swimming pool water cooling conditions and 1535, TEPCO and that may have caused some turbidity in the impurities.

          TEPCO is scheduled to start towards fuel retrieve in 2014, survey in the pool on February 9. Clarity is about 5 meters, such as a piece of concrete rubble from the explosion of the building No. 4 has been confirmed. (2012/03/15-19: 34)

          ((No sign of any mention of ITSNOTABANANA's Kamakazis!)

        • dka

          This is my translation:

          "SFP n4, fall in the degree of transparency = durty (muddy) from impurety (foreign matter)?

          On the 15, TEPCO inspected the SFP with a camera, as a result, the degree of transparency that was 5m before was now only 1m. The pool cooling system and the 1543 gathered rods conditions have not changed too much so there is an investigation about the possibility that it what caused by something (impurety, foreign matter) that started to make it durty (unpure, unclear, murky).

          TODEN (Eastern Japan Electric Company) did this inspection On Feb. 9, looking forward to the start of removing the SFP rods in 2014.
          The degree of transparency used to be 5m and it could be verified that there were concrete and other stuff debris from the building (wall, roof) explosion." end of translation.

  • norbu norbu

    yes we would not want that to fall down. I guess this means shore up the building or evacuate all of Japan now.

  • norbu norbu

    The fat lady is singing.

  • norbu norbu

    what can we do? Hope they build a large lock style fortress around the plant and cement it in? But if they cant go near it what will happen, when the water runs out? Another melt down? Epic Meltdown? This can not be allowed to happen. These are crimes towards humanity. They need to do something besides nothing. SHUT ALL NUCLEAR PLANTS DOWN.

  • norbu norbu

    I am really Pissed off. Anyone tell me what to do I cant hardly sleep this is insanity.

    • Buffalojam

      Norbu – I am truly sorry you find yourself in this situation. It is not difficult to sense your frustration by reading your comments. As for what to do, I would make these suggestions:
      1. Focus on maintaining your physical and mental health. As best you can, find out what foods are best to avoid and consider supplements to help fight off harmful radiation.
      2. Seek out and contact for advise and friendship (like your doing here) like minded individuals who find themselves in the same situation. Everyone needs such support.
      3. Probably the most frustrating aspect of this disaster is the lack of transparency from Tepco, the government, and media. Why not consider joining a group that is working to remedy this. Even the most mundane of efforts can bring joy if the cause is good.
      4. As the situation gets more serious with each passing day I would be making long term and short term decisions about where to live and how to get by. Use your contacts for advice on what's best for you.
      Norbu – in many disaster situations those who become care givers tend to survive longer and better than those on the receiving end. I bet you would find peace of mind by becoming a giver. Best wishes.

  • charlie3

    norbu, if it is any consolation, I believe that all of us here share your concern and frustration with the way the Fukushima disaster continues to unfold.

  • truthseek truthseek

    I am concerned beyond reason. I will admit bordering obsessed by the enormity and scope of this most significant

  • truthseek truthseek

    human blunder

  • charlie3

    I sometimes that that if this hadn't happened, it would have simply happened alittle further down the road.
    It may be too late, but his is a wake up call for humans to end our reckless and suicidal toying around with nuclear.

  • NoNukes NoNukes

    I'm so far gone, that this sounds like good news. If true, all of R4 is not in our lungs, yet. The best I've got for optimism.

  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    James2 has been telling Tepco this for weeks on end. I guess they finally listened.

  • charlie3

    nonukes, I'll gladly grasp at that straw of hope too.

  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    There are predictions that Earth will be completely destroyed, and a new one is made, with only the 'chosen' to be put on it, to live in peace and harmony for 1,000 years. God picks ONLY those who are living in their heart of hearts. That would mean all those who are against nuclear power will be getting a ticket for this new Earth, or Heaven?

    We may lose this battle, but those who stay in their hearts, fighting for starving children, homeless, environment, etc.. will win the war in the end, no matter what.

    Sorry, nuke apologists. No tickets left for you. Just lots of nuclear fires to enjoy and keep you warm and toasty. You got your unjust rewards on old Earth.. no more room at the Inn for you.

    Even if this turns out to be a fairy tale, at least it offers hope. And, you never know, miracles do happen 🙂


      (fantasy)I think Einstein is back in time now, working diligently to save the planets living things from this silent destruction. Maybe one day we will wake with no recollection of any of this… No Chernobyl… no ENENEWS… No TEPCO…
      No Cancer pandemic… No nuclear warfare… No knowledge of plutonium… No military industrial complexes… No Atomic Abuses…

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Who predicts this? Curious. Hadn't heard that one before (or told that way). Not the part about living from the heart, anyway.

      'Don't know what to think about #4 anymore. We hear about it so rarely, and when we do, the latest report seems to conflict with whatever was previously reported ….

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      I don't want a new planet. This one was perfectly fine.

  • charlie3

    Um, radiation doesn't strike down the evil and spare the innocent, unfortunately.
    This is less of a fairy tale and more like a nightmare from which we cannot awake.

  • norbu norbu

    I don't know what to say. I will not stop helping where I can in this life, for the greater good of all being's and the Earth.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Good. Keep going!

      There is a saying among people in 12 step programs, and it's good advice for anyone.

      Don't let yourself get too hungry, angry, lonely, or tired.

      I sometimes get depressed over Fukushima and all the lies being fed to us. When this happens I go and do something I really enjoy. It helps to connect with others, with nature, or whatever makes you feel good when you're sad, angry, or feel isolated. That's what I do anyway!

      • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

        Hi Ho! Another cornerstone of 12 step programs is service to others… gets you outside of yourself. Good place to be.

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Lovely, norbu. Me too….there's nothing more important to do than saving Mother Earth.

  • charlie3

    Good. Let's do what we can and try to save out little planet.

  • CB CB

    I read God helps those that help themselves. So far we have contributed to the problem, compounding and adding to it. Our efforts to disgrace Tepco and Governments have failed. Waiting on others to act is useless. Lets help ourselves and get through this shit. A real meaningful long thought out solution is required. Bickering among ourselves helps nobody. Put down your guns, the SHOCK and AWE is over, we are counter productive. I am here with you, felt your pain, Tepco is a liar, lets tell them how to fix it, damage control. Snap out of the bullshit, the wheels on the bus go round and round, almighty I'm smarter than you and give real tangible, executable, touchable, resolution. The OMG is old, the governments need help! So fucking help!

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Where is this read from? It's not in the Bible, although people are fond of saying it is Biblical.

      (Many people think it's a Biblical saying. Not trying to argue here, but am not sure where or how God said that! Not trying to criticize you!! I used to say that a lot myself, as did my parents before me.)

      Agreed we need to ACT!

      So what are we doing? What's the solution?

  • Ras Bumboclat

    I can't help but think of children playing with matches, who then burn the neighborhood down with their ignorance of fire. That seems to be the story of man playing with atoms. A horrific price to pay for a clever species that doesn't seem to have the corresponding intelligence or wisdom to match.

    A hard core natural selection fk up. If you make the wrong mistake, you're gone. You get wiped out of the gene pool, and that seems it may be our fate? As George Carlin said "just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac."

    There's a reason the earth has this wonderful protective atmosphere, to protect us from all the fking radiaion in space! Haha! It's comedic and at the same time would make for an epic novel or a great play. We decided to make the radiation inside the atmosphere, because we thought we could get one up on the sun! We thought we could, yeah, become god.

    The price for this arrogance and vanity seems to be almost beyond calculation, but for nature it may have been just an experiment? Who could these people become, what could they do? Would they make a wonderful world or blow it all to hell? Oops! There's your answer.

    I hope everyone keeps their levity and sense of humor as long as they're kicking around this planet.

    Remember there is another 400+ nuclear reactors out there (the ones we know about), not including all the nuclear aircraft carriers, submarines, weapons, that somewhere some point need to be dealt with? Hmm.

    Alan Watts. Is it serious?

  • Kevin Kevin

    yeah when it comes to SFP 4, the waters are muddied, no doubt about it.

  • RutherfordsGhost

    As Lord Tutherford once said:

    No useful energy will come from nuclear power.

  • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

    Reactor 3. SFP 4. These are the keys to the Fuku tragedy. They must be walled off from the planet until the concrete has turned to dust. Or we shall perish, and the halls of congress shall echo with only the sounds of water dripping, dripping.

  • NoNukes NoNukes

    Since it was established that Tepco was a fraudulent liar a decade ago, willing to put everyone downwind in jeopardy of death to save some money, and the NRC transcripts revealed that they were certain that the reactor 4 spent fuel pool was gone last March, I think that we have to entertain the possibility that Tepco's reports about its continued existence are part of a long tradition of falsification.

    The New York Times – September 16, 2002
    Safety Problems at Japanese Reactors Begin to Erode Public's Faith in Nuclear Power

    The reports of safety lapses, fraudulent repairs and cover-ups at Japan's largest nuclear power company began with a trickle but have resounded into an industry nightmare.

    The details, filled in over the last two weeks by one alarming report after another, show a potentially catastrophic pattern of cost-cutting along with 16 years of cover-ups of serious flaws, apparently in an effort to preserve public trust. The pattern includes the systematic falsification of inspection and repair records at 13 reactors at the company, Tokyo Electric, the world's largest private electrical utility.

    Compounding the public relations disaster, a reactor that the company operates in Fukushima Prefecture, in northern Japan, was closed temporarily last week because a chimney was emitting more than 100 times the usual level of radiation.

    Company officials have said they were worried that if the public became aware of cracking at the reactors, people would be frightened.

    Today, it was learned that the government gave Tokyo Electric the name of the whistle-blower who reported the cracking to the company, in a further effort to keep things quiet.

    The most frightening revelation in the unfolding Tokyo Power scandal has been that falsified inspection records had papered over large cracks in the stainless steel shrouds that cover the core of nuclear plants,…

    • jec jec

      Gee 10 years and still no one in International government community DID anything! NOTHING-ignored. Now with this terrible contaminatinmess, still NO ONE is doing anything. The report should be used by the people in Japan talking about criminal charges..

  • StillJill StillJill

    "Magical Thinking" is the thing 'we' are up against.

    Must educate myself again,…learned of it 25 years ago in Psychology and Addiction Counseling.

  • Tumrgrwer Tumrgrwer

    Now let's see. What are the pros and cons of nuclear power? Anyone…are there any pros at all? I have not been able to come up with a single one. The balance is just not there. There is nothing to offset the cons.

    Let us continue to be kind, one to another, for we are each of us together in our pain!

    • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

      The only "pro" is for the mil/ind/complex/corp. All sorts of military apps. Hundreds of variations of DU/plutonium/fuckyouzium…..Evil Shit.
      All "cons" for the Human race.