Published: June 12th, 2011 at 5:12 pm ET
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High level of strontium found at Fukushima plant, Kyodo, June 13, 2011:
Radioactive strontium up to 240 times the legal concentration limit has been detected in seawater samples collected near an intake at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Sunday.
The utility said the substance was also found in groundwater near the plant’s Nos. 1 and 2 reactors. The government’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said it is the first time that the substance has been found in groundwater. [...]
Strontium tends to accumulate in bones and is believed to cause bone cancer and leukemia. [...]
See also: Strontium found in groundwater for first time — 240 times above max limit
Published: June 12th, 2011 at 5:12 pm ET
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Quote from the last post “…traces of strontium that were 240 times above the allowable maximum limit.”
In ground water or seawater the “traces” of strontium at 240 times the limit this is not. Seawater can become ground water; seawater evaporates and becomes clouds …do they get it yet?
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A question comes up with this situation.
Does H20, when evaporated, carry any other component with it?
Distillation comes to mind, so I am wondering if anyone else has an idea about such.
Just a thought.
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Not unless the water you’re evaporating has substances in it with a lower vapor pressure or boiling point than water. Distilling alcohol from water comes to mind.
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Other components can also evaporate, without question, but that does not mean that they are “attached” to the water molecule.
I doubt that a radioactive isotope will evaporate as water does, nor will it attach itself to a water molecule.
Only way, as I see it, to get a heavy isotope injected into the atmosphere from a water source would be to thrust it, say a hurricane would work (typhoon).
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ZP, Manifest, & others, I found this information. TMI put this out in 1989. Are there any concerns about a tritium component in this water?
Tmi Gains Approval To Evaporate Radioactive Water; Appeals Planned
February 04, 1989|By Russell E. Eshleman Jr., Inquirer Harrisburg Bureau
[Excerpts]
The federal Atomic Safety and Licensing Board has given the operator of Three Mile Island permission to evaporate 2.3 million gallons of radioactive water into the atmosphere, a decision two anti-nuclear groups say they will appeal.
“We are convinced that implementation of applicant’s proposal will have extremely small radiation-exposure consequences, both to workers and the general public,” the three-member board said in its order.
Bedell said the effect of boiling away the water would have a “minuscule” effect on the health of nearby residents.
“It’s as close to zero as language can reach,” he said.
Full story:
http://articles.philly.com/1989-02-04/news/26152316_1_radioactive-water-evaporation-process-tmi-alert
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More:
Tainted Water A Big Test In Japan
April 07, 2011
Even with a pond, it could take up to 10 years before the radioactivity would decay enough for the material to be handled, Morse said. Building a storage pond “buys you time,” he said.
But other experts sharply disagree, saying exposing the material to open air could allow radioactive iodine and other volatile substances to blow off the site, adding to the remote contamination that is already spreading dozens of miles from the plant.
A factor that could vastly complicate the problem is the presence of tritium, or heavy water, which is produced during fission. Tritium cannot be filtered out of water, instead requiring an extremely expensive treatment process.
“If the contaminated water has relatively high tritium or tritiated water concentration, then treatment could be more complicated,” said Joonhong Ahn, a nuclear waste expert at UC Berkeley.
Nuclear power plants normally have systems in place to treat tritium on site. But the condition and capacity of the Fukushima system is not known.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/07/world/la-fg-japan-water-20110407
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Apparently you avoid the point, or delude the facts.
The “he said,” “she said” has no bearing here.
I am making reference to physics, science, a reference to creditable data, as observed by mankind within, stringent examination..
And you are a, dancing around.
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Tritiated water evaporates and causes a myriad of health related problems.
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“Strontium tends to accumulate in bones and is believed to cause bone cancer and leukemia….”
But only in people that AREN’T HAPPY, so don’t worry, be happy…..
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LMAO I’m Happy.. It should be so easy sadly it will come with a big price tag.
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Happy People = People who live in bomb shelters, guess they are right that, strontium won’t effect happy people.
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Daily needed levity moment:
Shiny Happy People
Shiny happy people laughing
Meet me in the crowd
People people
Throw your love around
Love me love me
Take it into town
Happy happy
Put it in the ground
Where the flowers grow
Gold and silver shine
Shiny happy people holding hands
Shiny happy people laughing
Everyone around love them, love them
Put it in your hands
Take it take it
There’s no time to cry
Happy happy
Put it in your heart
Where tomorrow shines
Gold and silver shine
Shiny happy people holding hands
Shiny happy people laughing
R.E.M. »
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I might as well me happy too, count me in.
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just had a lovely day wandering around a glacier in norway with me daughter and her cool boyfriend, done some fishing …im very happy….so ill join this club for the night… peace
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How was the fishing?
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ive posted on the discussion thread…fishing was interesting
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Wondering if you could drop in on the Norwegian Air Institute and tell them we said “Hi.”
http://www.nilu.no/index.cfm?lan_id=3
Maybe tell them we’re working on a new name, something like:
La Résistance Nucléaire
and we’ll be contacting them again shortly.
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We’re also going to set up our own network, with or without ‘em.
http://community.pachube.com/node/611
Crowd-sourced radiation monitoring.
We’ll probably all be very sick by the time we get ‘er set up, but, once established, we can warn people of hotspots, and so on.
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…ou plutot,
La Résistance AntiNucléaire
(LRA)
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I like the name…!
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Book marked it.
Hope it turns out to be without
corruption.
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lol
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Happiness is living in the extreme southern hemisphere.
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A few interesting documents.
http://owni.fr/2011/03/15/revelations-areva-au-coeur-du-reacteur-de-fukushima/
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Hell yes!
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NHK: Excessive levels of strontium detected in seawater
Monday, June 13, 2011 06:03 +0900 (JST)
Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, reported that strontinum-90, at a level 53 times higher than the safety standard was detected in samples taken from inside an inlet used exclusively by the nuclear plant, on May 16.
TEPCO also said that strontinum-90 was detected at a level 170 times higher than the standard in samples also taken on May 16, near the water intakes outside reactor number 2. At the reactor number 3 water intakes, the level was 240 times higher than the legal safety limit.
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/13_02.html
Apparently TEPCO has actually done multiple sampling at different locations….good.
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Ah, Strontium-90, my least favorite fission product. Probably found where ever Cesium-137 is found. Bioaccumulates in the bone. Generally unhealthy in any quantity, especially in the young and growing. There needs to be an internationally run, independent survey of the contamination coming from N Japan.
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Our Japanese friends are already on it:
http://japan.failedrobot.com/
They’re no fools, despite a very big “mistake” which may not be completely the fault of the Japanese. I’m inclined to give them a hearty round of applause for taking the initiative to set this up.
☺
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Saw this: “Authorities are looking into whether Fukushima city should be included in the evacuation area or whether people in at least some hotspots in the city should be evacuated”
down the page a ways in this:
http://rt.com/news/radioactive-strontium-plant-water/
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MSNBC Nightly News yonight 6/12/11
if you missewd it …
Farmers coping with radiation threat !
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/ns/nightly_news#43371962
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Important parts copied before something is changed w/this MSM story:
Fear of the unknown looms large in Japan
3 hours ago
By Robert Bazell
But one of the biggest dangers is a fear of the unknown–even beyond the 12 mile mandatory evacuation zone. And it is hardly irrational.
Although radiation still leaks from the reactors, the biggest release occurred in the first days of the accident. Still, significant amounts of Cesium 134, which has a half life of two years, and Cesium 137, which has a half life of 30 years, remain in the ground. And it was not distributed evenly, much of it is up to 40 miles from the reactors. As a result most people have no idea how much radiation they are [near?] or were exposed to.
Tonight we feature a farmer who worries not just for his workers and himself but about the crops he produces. Radiation counters are in very short supply in Japan. He managed to get one from a non-profit organization called Project 47 — 47 is the number of prefectures in Japan, but for now the organization is concentrating on the Fukushima area. It provides counters so people at least know how much radiation is on their land. It is a badly needed and much appreciated service.
http://dailynightly.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/12/6843650-fear-of-the-unknown-looms-large-in-japan
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When the toll bells start ringing of miscarriages, deformed children as Chernobyl, many forms of cancers, leukemia’s, then even the Japanese will be warning other Nations to stay away or the monster will get you that you can not see !
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Strange that the crops look ok, at this point.
The farmer should evacuate.
The reporter should have worn protective equipment.
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The crops look OK here too, it’s not how they look but what they carry inside them invisibly ! The Monster you can’t see !
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just a quick link for you techies
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/update-on-kurions-cesium-removal-system.html
peace
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Dr. Ilya Perlingieri recommends we garden indoors this year, to avoid as much radiation contamination as possible. Another alternative is to dome garden. She also mentions several foods and supplements to lessen the impact of radiation exposure.
https://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/tag/borax/
Many experts also recommend specific foods and nutrients to counteract radiation exposure. See Melissa Patterson’s Supplements Shown to Help Prevent Effects of Radiation Fall-Out.
http://www.collapsenet.com/free-resources/collapsenet-public-access/item/703-supplements-shown-to-help-prevent-effects-of-radiation-fall-out
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Well I’ll be darned, it looks like we are living in Radioactive Fallout, after all.
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I find she’s slightly off on her info, plus she misses out zeolite, bentonite, gingko biloba and other things.
E.g. “Six reactors at Fukushima Daiichi #1 Plant are in danger of catastrophic meltdown. ”
In fact, 3 reactors are in melt-through (worse than meltdown). Two are in cold shutdown? (5 & 6) but with lingering questions.
The fourth, #4, is the one we’re waiting for – incessant steaming viewed from the live camera – and guaranteed to kill the world several times over.
” And a catastrophic meltdown of Reactor #4 is imminent.”
Not quite correct because there is, ostensibly, no core there, just the deadly fuel rods. It’s the fuel rods that will be catastrophic.
And, #4 is smoking/steaming and nobody seems to know why.
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“Not quite correct because there is, ostensibly, no core there, just the deadly fuel rods”
erm….. I think you’ll find the still ‘hot’ core of R4 (only 7 months mileage) was placed there during the shutdown. Thus the heat issue.
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@arclight..thanks for the link..
I didn’t see any indication of cooling..the damn things are heating up.
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mes pleasure mon amis
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_fission
Scroll down to see the decay rates…
I don’t think we have time…for the reactors to cool down by decay.
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phew thatll do for tonight..got some more fishing to do…lol…good night\day you wonderful people!!
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If this has been posted before ..forgive.
Somehow ..it’s the faces. the faces of the people that get to me..and give me a reason to go on.
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=14543
Thanks RBN….friends in the resistance.
Other cool stuff at site.
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Groundwater contamination…USA.
http://www.nuclearcounterfeit.com/?p=4177
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I made a video Tokyo Radiation but some official sources in Japan were not very impressed. I promised them I would make an updated correction which I have. I didn’t need to but I did as they made some good points. I still maintain my stance not to travel to Tokyo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTKDop5hxS0
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