Published: March 18th, 2013 at 3:59 pm ET
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Title: Fukushima nuclear power plant suffers outage, fuel pool cooling stops
Source: Kyodo
Date: March 19, 2013
Tokyo Electric Power Co. said a power failure occurred at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station just before 7 p.m. Monday, leading to the suspension of systems to cool spent fuel pools of the No. 1, 3 and 4 reactor units.
[...] No major changes have been observed in radioactivity levels detected by nearby monitoring posts.
As of 1:45 a.m., TEPCO has not been able to work out steps to ensure bringing the system back online. [...]
UPDATE: Kyodo at 6:41p ET: Fukushima Daiichi power failure still underway -- Residents anxious, Tepco remains unable to fix problem
Published: March 18th, 2013 at 3:59 pm ET
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This entire situation should be removed from TEPCO's control.
Keep their workers on the job, but they should be controlled and administrated by a 3d party. There is too much of a conflict of interest.
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For their finances, yes, they should be confiscated. And for their grip on the media, yes. But they actually have a HUGE interest in preventing further meltdowns. Unclear that having different engineers in there would do any better.
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And on the other hand, YES, they should have brought in international experts from the start. It's all interrelated — they are so obsessed with protecting themselves, that they are crippled to protect others.
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I'm waiting for one of these reports:
Japan’s Prime Minister Declares Fukushima Plant Stable
By HIROKO TABUCHI
Published: December 16, 2011
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/17/world/asia/japans-prime-minister-declares-fukushima-plant-stable.html?_r=0
TOKYO — Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda of Japan has declared an end to the world’s worst nuclear crisis since Chernobyl, saying technicians have regained control of reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
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I felt inclined just now to look up this word:
Seppuku
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku
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I'd like to second that.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/03/18/japan-daiichi-nuclear-plant-failure.html
That's the Canadian report from CBC and I notice CTV another Canadian reporting this. Its under reporting the severity of the situation but it made the headlines. Yay Canada
Where's FOX? http://www.foxnews.com/ check it out their headliner is about a twenty year ago art robbery.
This is what Arnie and others were worried about most. The cores of the melted out reactors are smoldering away underground but if the cooling of the spent fuel rods can't be fixed it will be a global disaster. Once one goes all the rest will follow as the radiation will stop any meaningfull work. This is sad. Any evidence of American reporting? Just pray they fix the problem, otherwise prepare as best you can as its obvious we are being hung out to dry
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There are 5 engineers between 18 and 30 years old that have been ordered to find a solution.
They will follow their manager order so we can all feel safe.
They will not sleep until they identify the problem and solve it. They should come up with theories of what's wrong and what might be done to fix the hypotetical problem….within 3 to 4 days.
The group knows the dangers if the system is not back into operation within 5 days and they know it is all upon them now.
Their section manager also knows it is upon his group to get it done so we can be lucky and they might find the cause and solve it soon. Let's wish them good luck.
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We may be in the 3-5 day time window, with a "race against time." But what exactly HAPPENS if/when they CANNOT fix this "in time"? Is it too horrific to even spell out? Should we not at least KNOW?
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Judging from past news releases they won't report this until they have to which is after the fact. For those who don't know, spent fuel rods still generate heat and have to be cooled for several years. No proper disposal has ever been found so they sit in pools of water which were designed to hold far less as a permanent solution was theorized to happen but it didn't. So if there is no cooling system, the water boils away and we have a nuclear fire instead of a spent fuel rod pool and the radiation will be huge forcing the evacuation of the whole site and then only God could intervene, it would be an uncontrolled nuclear fire spewing radiation all over the place fuelled by thirty years worth of spent fuel cells. Anyone have anything else to add?
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When TEPCO last shut down common spent fuel pool cooling for quick repairs, they reported the heat-up to be almost 1C/h. While this may have been meaurement fluke, I've not heard better estimates either.
This gives at most 48 hours to their safety level of 65C, another day or two to boiling, depends on the exact starting temperature.
But they've still got the firehoses even if all else fails, so I don't think this alone is anything to fret over. Of course, wise people will fret over just what happened, what else may have broken, and how are they going to prevent similar things in the future with the plants ever detoriating condition.
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Guezilla, the common spent fuel pool holds the most spent fuel while the pools installed within the individual reactors are smaller and should contain less so it would make sense the figures are different.
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Dose rates will be roughly equal to cat scaning an entire bannana farm while on a round trip flight to N.Y.
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ROFL, if laughing is allowed.
Just a little reminder:
08/19/2012
Can Spent Fuel Pools Catch Fire?
http://fairewinds.com/ja/content/can-spent-fuel-pools-catch-fire
(Answer: yes)
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We go to Mars?
Wanted: People willing to die on Mars
Mars One co-founder tells CBC about its proposed one-way trip to the Red Planet
CBC News Posted: Mar 16, 2013 8:54 PM ET Last Updated: Mar 16, 2013 9:00 PM ET Read 566 comments566
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/03/16/mars-one-live-die-mars.html
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on the 5 engineers group – are they doing any outside consulting?
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Anyone up for a sing-a-long? How about…."Nearer My God To Thee"….Oh and look….I think I see furniture that's out of order….can anyone at Tepco help me to maybe kind of rearrange it…..Hey my feet are getting wet…..what's up with that?
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Sing-a-long sounds like a good idea. We could use that violin they found from the bandmaster on the above ship.
Let's rearrange a few chairs first ….
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<a href="http://youtu.be/TIoBrob3bjI">We Will All Go Together When We Go</a> – Tom Lehrer
We will all go together when we go.
All suffuse with an incandescent glow.
No one will have the endurance
To collect on his insurance,
Lloyd's of London will be loaded when they go.
I was probably WAY too young when I was first exposed to Tom Lehrer (and Monty Python, for that matter…).
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Just another reminder of how freakin' dangerous nuclear is.
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How is it possible that there is no mobile diesel generators onsite on standby incase of events like the one unfolding? Unfookingreal the incompetence of TEPCO and the Japanese government. Our fate is in the hands of these bumbleing, fumbleing, morons. When will enough be enough? Our young children and soon to be born are paying the ultimate price. Breaks my heart everytime I see the children of Belarus, with their little throats cut from thyroid surgeries and the rooms full of abandoned children with mutations. Surely this is the ultimate sin in gods eyes. Generations destroyed via DNA bombardment. Bet thats why the stock market has been so high as of late. The medical field is getting ready to feast on the soon to skyrocket diseases and cancers. Probably be more hospitals than business buildings in the next 20 to 40 yrs (if we make it that long). The guilty parties MUST PAY! That includes General Electric and Westinghouse. The creators of these monsters.
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They did not pay their hydro bill as they are bankrupt and have been disconnected from grid.
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"Radium City" for those who have not seen it….You can see our future in our past….The actors may change and the plot gets a new twist but the script on how to handle these situations…..who gets rich and who gets screwed that never changes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLS6NCZPiSY
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"Whoever wishes to foresee the future must consult the past; for human events ever resemble those of preceding times. This arises from the fact that they are produced by men who ever have been, and ever shall be, animated by the same passions, and thus they necessarily have the same results."
—Machiavelli
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maybe time to bring in the fire trucks again as a backup cooling system
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The initial report gave an ETR of a couple days. How can one be given with no solutions.
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So, let's see what is in the news.
Honey Boo Boo's mom gets a makeover.
Lohan gets locked-down rehab.
Bag thief does good deed.
NCAA fan breaks down.
Break in 20-year-old art heist.
Nun robbed in church.
Angelina Jolie admits lips made her career.
American dad stuck in China.
Clinton backs gay marriage.
Kids' message to White House.
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pretty much covers it all, Alec…
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OK….OK….I have the steps here for Tepco to take…listen closely because I don't want to have to say this twice….
"You put your right hand in,
You put your right hand out,
You put your right hand in,
And you shake it all about,
You do the hokey pokey
and you turn yourself around
That what it's all about.
Now remember Tepco…..
2) left hand
3) right foot
4) left foot
5) head
6) butt and then….kiss it goodbye;-)
7) whole self.
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Plausible, at least the working conditions would improve. Thanks!
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woooooooh, the hokey pokey
woooooooh, the hokey pokey
woooooooooooooooh the hokey pokey,
that's what it's all about!
Those guys at tepco sure know how to do the dokey pokey.
They'll have Daiichi all sorted in no time!
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No doubt it's BS. They're hitting someone up for more money, creating a problem to scare the lender. Or, they just pulled the power to see what heats up fastest/most. Or, none of the above, because no one ever knows, with nuclear.
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I would think they could bring in generators as a last resort… Enough big ones to run selected pumps…
This is getting more print than it may deserve IMO…
The big issue is they are still doing SO little there…
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That and solar panels, especially if they had to abandon the site, no foresight, what is wrong with these people, has there brains already shrunk due to radiation poisoning.
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[Breaking] Power Blackout In Fukushima Plant…Power Lost To Coolant Systems Of Fuel Pools
http://current.com/community/94077949_breaking-power-blackout-in-fukushima-plant-power-lost-to-coolant-systems-of-fuel-pools.htm
[Analysis] The sudden blackout revealed the weakness of Fukushima plant, “Reactor4 has 4 days to go”[Analysis] The sudden blackout revealed the weakness of Fukushima plant, “Reactor4 has 4 days to go”
http://beforeitsnews.com/japan-earthquake/2013/03/analysis-the-sudden-blackout-revealed-the-weakness-of-fukushima-plant-reactor4-has-4-days-to-goanalysis-the-sudden-blackout-revealed-the-weakness-of-fukushima-plant-re-2441386.html
Fukushima Daiichi power blackout is top story on Japan news sites (VIDEO)
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/fukushima-daiichi-power-blackout-top-story-japan-news-sites-video
Crippled Fukushima nuclear plant suffers blackout
http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/crippled-fukushima-nuclear-plant-suffers-blackout
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Power Blackout Interrupts Cooling at Fukushima Nuclear Plant
http://ens-newswire.com/2013/03/18/power-blackout-interrupts-cooling-at-fukushima-nuclear-plant/
Blackout suspends cooling operations at crippled Fukushima nuclear plant
http://japandailypress.com/blackout-suspends-cooling-operations-at-crippled-fukushima-nuclear-plant-1925373
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