Published: March 17th, 2012 at 9:07 pm ET
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Follow-up to: AP: California's San Onofre nuclear plant shuts down indefinitely over safety worries
Title: San Onofre nuclear plant testing reveals problems
Source: KABC
Date: March 16, 2012
New problems at the San Onofre nuclear plant: Four more tubes that carry radioactive water have failed pressure tests, bringing the total number to seven.
A special team of federal inspectors was called to the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station just south of San Clemente after seven tubes that carry radioactive water failed pressure tests this week, according to officials. [...]
Small traces of radioactive gas escaped during the leak in January, but officials with Southern California Edison (SCE), the company that runs the plant, said there was no danger to workers or residents.
The Nuclear Regulatory Commission is trying to figure out why the tubes are wearing out so quickly in a system that’s only two years old. [...]
Residents’ Views
- “It’s kind of frightening when they’re failing, especially living in a beach community this close to San Onofre,” said San Clemente resident Tom Eikmeier.
- “We have lived in San Clemente for the last 15 years and never felt comfortable about having the power plant next to us, because we know what happened in Japan,” said San Clemente resident Monica Lussi.
- Other residents say it’s not something that they worry about. “I think what’s going to happen is what’s going to happen,” said San Clemente resident Tanner Payan.
Read the report here
Published: March 17th, 2012 at 9:07 pm ET
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Omg…does it ever END with these things?!?!? Posted http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/16/san-onofre-power-plant-safety_n_1353546.html
Night all BEAT
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And that is just while they are running. The big problem comes after they stop and you have materials to get rid off that can still cause problems for millenia or eras. We still just hide and shuffle the waste. Time to be open about it and start addressing the issues.
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You KNOW this is going to be bad.
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why is it such a big deal to figure out, either the steel is what it is supposed to be or not.
and if it is then the next thing is the water, just water and whatever they add for anti-corrosion, etc?
or could it be that like Chernobyl (only this isnt a test), this is history repeating itself as a rhyme, could the facility been operated BEYOND specifications to generate more power and therefore more revenue? and thus damaging the system. one would think that if one was to operate a npp beyond specifications one would have to increase pressures and flows and this could cause premature erosion of plumbing. hmmmmmmmmmmm. now if that happened, i would think that there would be signs of increased flow and or pressure. i have to wonder how much forensic training these inspectors have….could this be the result of deregulating the electric and them able to sell it off to other grids? just a thought. i am pretty sure there is a spreadsheet somewhere that has the total wattage of their customers AND the wattage they sold. hmmmmmm. the question is, are those numbers larger than what they should be. see what i am saying…records at the plant could be bogus, but what is outside the plant would be much harder to falsify because its all about the money and time, as in watt/hr. maybe they should check the generators as well for stress and heat damage. nah even if i am right, I'll still be wrong. they will make it so. it would take a whistle-blower.
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Hi datura17, I found this on the San Clemente Green page:
"The word from insiders at the plant is that the problem stems from pipes being configured in such a way as to have unintentionally created a situation where water passes through the tubes at such a high velocity that it causes the kind of wear they would expect to see after 20 to 30 years of service. (…)
See here: http://www.sanclementegreen.org/?q=node/220
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Just remember, to cover any damages to your property (contamination?) the plant has all of an approximate 300 Million in insurance coverage.Any more than that..the "slush fund" the US government maintains is supposed to cover. This is assuming you can prove any damages and have your records available. Private home owners insurance does not cover damages caused by nuclear. If you have property near the plant, part of your plans should be to have all the records of value, your personal information somewhere else–a safe deposit somewhere way far away. We are 9 miles from one plant, and have our records safe (just in case). A good example is the Gulf Coast Oil Spill..no records..no payment..delays in payment, and minimal payment. Document document..
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Good advice jec. I'm 8 miles from VY and had not thought to store records out of state.
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I've seen a beachfront property like that somewhere else recently.
“I think what’s going to happen is what’s going to happen,” said San Clemente resident Tanner Payan.
Me too.
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Nobody knows how much radiation leaks, or is vented from any reactor, anywhere, anytime. It's eerie, and not meant to be.
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Condensor tube problems at Vermont Yankee as well. Don't know if these are the same tubes as at San Onofre. VY quietly reduced power last week due to a heat transfer problem in the tubes. Seems the epoxy coating applied to the inside of the tubes to combat corrosion problems last October has reduced the ability of the pipes to conduct heat. (Rutland Herald, byline Susan Smallheer) Maybe it really will get shut down next week.
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VT Yankee is a crumbling, corroded, dinosaur that needs to be closed. The issues of defects, metal deterioration, concrete delamination, leaking pipes and many more at VT and San Onofre are also seen at every othere
Nuke plant… if anybody is sent to look, that is.
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Hi Grayfox, I just image-googled Vermont Yankee out of interest, as I don't know the plant.
As the first pic which cam up was described as "VY cooling tower collapse 2007" – I see what you mean! Ugh!
http://www.sfbayview.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Vermont-Yankee-cooling-tower-collapse-2007.jpg
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Why not ask the manufacturor in Japan? They tried to take the assemblies back saying something was wrong- before San Onoglow installed them.
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Like a house of stinking rotten cards falling down around us.
The new World Map will need to indicate radiation levels and no go zones to remain relevant. Even more so in the very near future.
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@Anthony
Ummmmm, yes. You will need to update the GPS in your automobile and choose the best route around areas of radioactivity. On the other hand, if only enough sheeple would wake up….
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POSTED HERE… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/16/san-onofre-power-plant-safety_n_1353546.html
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Well whatever happened there at san Onofre to shut down the plant…we will never know the truth…that's the only truth….don't wait for the lying reports…try to put 2 and 2 together for yourself and believe in your own intuition.
Maybe there is a probelm with more than the tubes…we will never know.
Pull out your Geigers it's the only truth we have.
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To all my friends in sc… Run!
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Yes run So. Cal!! as fast as possible…
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"traces" = one of the scariest words in the English language.
"small traces of radioactive gas" = "aerosolized plutonium?"
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ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ALL short bus Govt. window lickers at the NRC!…Can't figure out why thoses pesky cooling tubes at San Onefre keep failing?..Maybe it's because those tu8bes were probably made in …You guessed it…CHINA. Yeah , the land of milk and honey, and all those formerly American jobs that the boot licking A-Holes in Congress sent overseas .. Just goes to prove my point that People of low intelligence seem to gravitate toward govt. jobs, where they can hide their utter incompetence while collecting superior pay and benefits off the backs of the rest of us hard working serfs in the private sector.
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Boy you got that right OB. Spot on!
nite all – tomorrow is another day=1 year plus WHAT?!?!?
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POSTED YOUR GREAT COMMENT HERE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/16/san-onofre-power-plant-safety_n_1353546.html
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I'd say that Chinese manufacturers are just as capable nowadays to produce steel tubes of flawless quality as US-, European- or LaLaLand-based companies.
The question is if the client is willing to pay the price for flawless quality. And if the client is a private company trying to push revenues, you know what's going to happen.
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Yes, small traces, like always with things radioactive around NPPs.
HOW IN THE WORLD DID THEY EVER FIND THE URANIUM IN THE FIRST PLACE?
It's always just a little bit, and harmless, not enough to hurt them, until it kills them with cancer and they have a child born with a severe deformities and/or brain damage and forever damaged genes.
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WELCOME to the NUCLEAR 2010'S !
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Nuclear safety: A dangerous veil of secrecy
Who can the public trust on nuclear safety – the anti-nuclear camp, the nuclear lobby or academics funded by the latter?
D. Parvaz Last Modified: 11 Aug 2011 13:09
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/08/2011877118599802.html
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Nuclear Safety – World's Biggest Oxymoron
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Uh oh we have a thought criminal over here
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Oh, I'm making a bumper sticker now…
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When i read what you wrote Blown..I thought t shirt
That's a keeper!!!
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I think we've learned to date that Nuclear is NOT a safe energy alternative.
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Yes we've learned that…now let's try to get the rest of the world on that page!
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12 reasons why all nuclear power plants must be shut down http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/12-reasons-why-all-nuclear-power-plants.html
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Where did they buy the tubes???? Mexico? China? It use to be when America had manufacturing, an engineer could specify an alloy and the US Steel mills would provide it correctly. Now, you can't ever be sure what type of steel you'll get when source from the "low-cost" vendor.
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i listened to one report on the tubes, think it was from the SanO whistleblower. ANyway, he stated that the tubes are actually not much more thick than a piece of paper. They were cutting corners…purposefully.
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I think they're lying. Substitute the word "tubes" for "rods" and I think we are getting closer to the real problems here. JoyB knows something about failed fuel. JoyB, can failed fuel cause tubes to fail?
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CA just looks more and more sinister:
Lawrence Livermore Lab & the Continued Nuclear Arms Race3/13, 2012
MEDIA ROOTS — Abby and Robbie Martin grew up in Pleasanton, CA, a city located ten miles from the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL), a secret nuclear weapons production facility. They initially set out to explore the psychological impacts of taking nuclear testing into virtual space. But as their investigation unfolded, they found that the LLNL—in conjunction with Site 300—has built an impressive greenwashing PR campaign cloaking a sinister reality.
Despite a moratorium on nuclear testing, the nuclear arms race continues unabated at very high costs. In addition to the startling cases of LLNL's mismanagement of dangerous materials and 'accidental' releases, the facilities are still testing every radioactive component of a nuclear bomb in open air, according to sources.
Malignant melanoma (skin cancer) rates are six times higher among children born in Livermore; melanoma has been linked to radiation exposure. And the amount of radiation which has been expelled from the lab since its inception is equivalent to that released from the bombing of Hiroshima. Most disturbingly, the Livermore community is largely unaware of what the lab is actually doing and what its potential impacts are on its health and the environment. http://www.activistpost.com/2012/03/nuclear-arms-race-continues-undercover.html
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>And the amount of radiation which has been expelled from the lab since its inception is equivalent to that released from the bombing of Hiroshima."
SP:
I'd be willing to bet they have let vapors escape that vastly exceed a single Hiroshima bomb. I'm thinking near Los Alamos also is a bad, bad place to live with all the MOX dust.
Insanity…little Frankenstein doctors running around with their white labcoats and goggles making sure no atomic particles go unrewarded.
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A theory.
Think Stuxnet. It was designed to affect critical operations by changing settings slightly in the controllers. This induced unusual, faster than normal wear on critical components.
That's how we busted a bunch of Iran's centrifuges. A few settings just off by a bit, and made to look normal by the virus.
Simplest cause could be that virus has been altered and re-released to affect other systems, causing premature wear.
Stuxnet II, the return
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Not sure if this is relevant or not, but I have noticed things rusting around my house that I wouldn't expect to rust and have had many batteries gas off for no reason (sealed and lead acid). The only thing that has changed in my house over the past year is the level of radiation.
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@Justme
Would you be able to share where you live and what exposure you got?
(Very worried about my family, even though they are not.)
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Ontario, California. Exposed 24/7 …sry
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More spin re San Onofre:
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/oceanside/energy-officials-worry-dark-nuclear-plant-will-cause-blackouts/article_1e924e98-b92e-5b35-a0a9-72ab1e97efa7.html
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