Large area of gas bubbling during flyover of giant sinkhole — Pollution seen escaping into environment (PHOTOS)

Published: December 24th, 2012 at 10:34 am ET
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See more photos of the bubbling here

December 21, 2012 LEAN flyover of giant sinkhole in Assumption Parish, Louisiana:

Sinkhole From Collapsed Brine Cavern, Bayou Corne, LA

Source: Joint flight for Atchafalaya Basinkeeper, Louisiana Environmental Action Network and Lower Mississippi Riverkeeper; Flight courtesy of SouthWings

View photos of pollution escaping the sinkhole area here

Published: December 24th, 2012 at 10:34 am ET
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72 comments to Large area of gas bubbling during flyover of giant sinkhole — Pollution seen escaping into environment (PHOTOS)

  • jec jec

    Chilling photographs. And the administration is concerned about CO2 and global warming? Better they worry about all the methane and H2S bubbling out of these areas! Its many many times worse for the earths climate than our cars. And there is NO WAY to stop it. Funny no one seems to mention the dangers. Texas Brine and BP should have been taxed on the amount of methane escaping into the environment due to their human whoops…


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  • weeman

    Methane was in the back of my mind, I read reports of large methane pockets under the gulf, my concern was if one of these pockets was somehow connected to sink hole, with fracking you crack the rock it is possible that you give this methane a way to escape, never mind the crap they use works like oil in your engine and lubricates and friction is reduced, again they are playing with things they do not fully or completely understand, money money money the route of all evil, we are all guilty.


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  • ftlt

    Is that snow on the ground???

    Is that normal there that far south??? (not a panic question.. Just seems odd to me… Snow and the Bayous don't spring to mind much is all)


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    • sentinelle sentinelle

      I didn't see your post, but yeah… same thought – what is it? That toxic stuff they used in the Gulf to break up the oil came to mind…


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    • FREEDOMROX

      No, it isn't snow. Temps are unusually warm with a chance of severe weather. High winds and thunderstorms for Xmas day are the last things this area needs.

      Speculation. What I believe we are seeing is brine, or chlorides. Kinda of like a Chlorox toxic dump. TDS's have been on the rise, but since no real info, it is just speculation.


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      • Thad

        And what is disolved in water could be seen with the naked eye from any altitude- Mixed salt in water 'til it is saturated– what is the color change-?
        The ploto has been photo shopped- Rainbeau is right where is all the foilage/ the leaves on the trees- Doesn't have to be photo shopped with computer, Type film and lense can do it– infra would show trunks of trees having higher heat content than the leaves.Leaves on the tree around the opening of the sinkhole would cool quicker- The "bubbles" could be the up welling of water in the center with a high heat signature than the water around the perimeter—
        What is strange is the people of Bayou Corne can tell you the day and time the plane flew over yet the residents themselves reported not bubbles– considering their concern about H2S doubt seriously they would have remained silent —-.


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    • markww markww

      not snow just reflection of the sun across the swamp

      Markww


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  • sentinelle sentinelle

    Do anyone know what the white stuff is in the water and on the ground in the top photo?


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    • davidh7426 davidh7426

      Sunlight reflecting off the mud & crud.


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        • FREEDOMROX

          Looks like undissolved chlorides to me. Why aren't the chlorides brining out? Has it reached max salinity at the surface?


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          • davidh7426 davidh7426

            It's sunlight FDR. If it was salt, or any other form of precipitate, then it would have been seen before now on the flyovers and mentioned by somebody before now, that amount of precipitate is highly unlikely to form within the period of time between the last APPJ flyover and the one on the 21st.

            It's good ol' sunlight on the mud'n'crud.


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          • Thad

            Too much surrounding fresh water and no evaporation for over saturation and for salt to prepicitate.
            What cavern had propylene– ??
            carbonylation of propylene is a complex reaction and does not happen in nature–
            http://www.patents.com/us-4749525.html


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            • FREEDOMROX

              You are so silly Thad. Dow has propylene in two caverns! What do you think K/D/S Promix is there for?
              http://tinyurl.com/bm7vwvt

              The photo has not been doctored.
              If you had read everything, then you would see that I put it down as a light refraction and still see some reflections that I now believe are just debris. I have seen it in several flyovers.
              I also explained why there are light artifacts…you stay so far behind.

              Now you state that the residents can see bubbling at the Sinkhole, when they are not allowed on the property with a locked gate. You cannot see the sinkhole from Hwy. 70 only the outer bands of water, unless all trees fell down on the North Side and we aren't there yet.
              You made an outrageous claim that Boots&Coots not having anythig to do with Macondo, and they and Halliburton clearly state they did…
              http://www.halliburton.com/public/bc/contents/Brochures/H08927.pdf

              You are making this too easy for me sir!


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              • Thad

                Why does every disagreement with you turn into a pissing contest??? The Halliburton disagreement was on a different article but you had to drag here so so could make some childish smart remark.
                Answered your wrong info about Boots and Coots– and if you can read this you will see B&C was NOT a Halliburton company until 6 months after the blow out..The only work B&C did was after the blow out was write a report– did nothing related to controlling the well or cleaning up the oil. At the time the report was writtem B&C was not a Halliburton company—

                ""BP hired John Wright, an employee of Boots and Coots International, Inc. (“Boots and
                Coots”), to investigate the Deepwater Horizon blowout. As part of that investigation, Wright
                investigated and wrote a report to BP regarding a negative pressure test performed aboard the vessel
                on April 20, 2010. At issue is whether Wright’s May 21, 2010 Report on his investigation, dubbed
                the Boots & Coots Report, is admissible. The Report was submitted for in camera review."
                You posted a link about B&C and that is when I researched and found the report– OK I was think in terms of well contro and fire fighting- made a mistake – corrected-
                But seems your ego got in the way and you did not bother to read the link posted about 17Sept'10.

                http://www.halliburton.com/public/news/pubsdata/press_release/2010/corpnws_09172010.html

                The comment about polyproplene WAS A QUESTION- and deserved a civil answer not ridecule.


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                • FREEDOMROX

                  Then I apologize. Saying you were being silly was actually light-hearted, and a poke. Sorry if you took it that way.
                  As for my ego, I haven't been able to find it in a long while. If you happen to see it, please tell it to return home… :)


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        • rainbeaudais rainbeaudais

          Heart….that isn't headquarters. It's the pad, where Oxy 3 cavern is.


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      • FREEDOMROX

        I believe it is a reflection of chlorides deeper that at the surface waters, in the locale. All the rest is just reflection and mirrored, but I do see chlorides about 6 yards beneath the surface at shore and booms. Undeniable reflections.
        As for the rest of the swamp, then cannot say a word as it seems to be light reflections, and not the refractions observed sub-surface.


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    • jec jec

      Or SALT! As suggested by FREEDOMROX above. Clorides. Not good. Fresh water plants/trees do not do well in high concentations of salt. Either do aquafers–which humans drink out of. Anyone taking water samples for saline contents? Wonder if TB has big enuf pockets to pay for Reverse Osmosis systems for everyone drinking the ground water/aquafier H2O?


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      • FREEDOMROX

        High brine concentrations has been the main killer of trees root systems since this began. It isn't called Texas Brine for nothing….but, so much more is at work here, and yes, inimical to any type of life other than microbial.
        This area is beginning to look like a Petri Dish.


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  • haizedustrium-1234 haizedustrium-1234

    Planning galore surrounding the sinkhole devastation for a new highway to be built soon: benefits being amongst others that whilst evacuees go in one direction in the case of any major event, then emergency vehicles, fire brigade, ambulances, officials and media reporters and photographers come in the opposite direction with more lanes available. Three trees a day will give everyone enough time.
    One wrong gas de-collapse could really change things knowademsyn


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  • markww markww

    sunlight everyone sunlight

    Markww


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  • vivvi

    Ah, remember the good ole days when we were all concerned about that thing getting a few feet bigger, or some trees falling in? Now it's a contender for the Lake Springfield prize. All we need now is Homer with a silo of pig crap and the whole area is shot. Anybody got an enormous dome?


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  • sentinelle sentinelle

    You can download the 6016 pixel image and zoom in. There's a number of places that it's pretty obvious that it's a substance and not the sunlight. There are places if you look carefully you can see it with the shade of the trees crossing it.

    In particular follow the flare down past the trailer into the water to the large patch of white and you can see the shadows across it as well as the whole area to the left along the tree line.


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    • FREEDOMROX

      It still looks like the angle of light artifact, since it is showing directly on the booms that follow the direction of the Sun, and doesn't show up at other angles.
      It also shows that these bubbles are sporadic at higher levels and low intensity at other times, as you can see the ripple effect but not apparent bubbling on the southern photo. I do notice that the algae or pond scum on the outside of the booms shows in all photos. Many do not understand how different thing look from a plane as opposed to a helicopter, which can remain relatively level, but a plane must swoop down and up, so light artifacts are not uncommon, even to the pilot.


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  • bwoodfield bwoodfield

    I looked at the original image. In the center the light is playing off the bubbles, on the outer edges of the sinkhole pool there is a build up of oil and sludge that the light is playing off of. There is no snow. If you want to see snow I'll post a picture of my front yard, it's currently -27C (-16F) and -40 with the windchill (btw, -40C = -40F).

    You want snow, I got snow. That.. it's not snow.


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  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Heres a new twist on the sinkhole – What if it was a frack job gone bad, and affected the alluvial aquifer system which would answer the water supply for the sinkhole to keep rising. They insist is was a failed cavern, why not a combination of both? Mabey even the failed cavern was a result as well. Someone please check of the fracking history of the area and see if there is a connection there. How about all the trapped gasses in the aquifer also? Mabey the cavern failure claim is to keep the cover on what a bad fracking job has created? With directional drilling they could have drilled in from many different locations away from the event site. Well????? LMK…
    Merry Christmas all!!!!!! Button down the hatches in Bayou Corne – winter storm on the way!! Get that firewood ready :)


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    • FREEDOMROX

      I would not be surprised at anything at this point, except any of them coming clean… Texas Brine lawyers know how to drag things out for years. Only by uncovering everything can we get any help for the people.
      Happy Ho Ho


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    • Thad

      The nearest hydro fraking is in the Hainesville Shale over 300 miles north in the TxArkLa area. The Mississippi Alluvail aquifier does not reach that far north. The aquifier in that area is the Sparta and it not come south–


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      • FREEDOMROX

        The Mississippi River Alluvial Aquifer extends over 7 states and 32000 sq. miles. Geez look some of this up. Getting way too easy. I expect more from you my friend.
        http://academic.emporia.edu/schulmem/hydro/TERM%20PROJECTS/2010/Smith/Wesley.htm


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        • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

          Hey ROX – outstanding journalism. Your article should go viral world wide. A+++++++++++


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        • Thad

          Is there an actual physical connection?
          Do you have any evidence that OXY transported crap from their Love canal facilities to the saltdome?


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          • FREEDOMROX

            You actually have to read the article for you know that is not the predication nor foundation upon which the article stands, and you know it, if you actually read it.

            As for Oxy and Texas Brine's "Stinkhole" is most definitely being communicated to the other swamps and bayous.

            Refer to your own flyover vid showing communication, and verified by LDNR as they fined Texas Brine for not containing all the TDS's, and chlorides.

            You know if you are not a paid shill Thad…you sure do their work for them for free. Oldest tactics in book.

            This is why no one can be nice to you. It's like a sign for you to go on the attack and divert resources spent in worthwhile pursuits to be extended towards your trivial pursuits.


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      • FREEDOMROX

        See, unlike you, I am able to listen to other's speculations, and consider them as people do, in the context in which they are made. It hurts no one's feelings to be proven wrong at a later date, (except you), and TM2020 has my respect, because he has treate me with the same. What I truly think, believe, know, or foster is up to me and not always a direct confrontation. I reserve that for the ones I thought could take it…that means you Thad, (Mo), until I saw you lose it and cry foul when you were caught out in specious fallacies.
        I don't know if anyone is 'fracking' in the area, but for anyone to state the MAAP does not extend to Bayou Corne is a fact that I could not allow to pass, nor any of the other ones you propagate, (Ron)
        See, someone has to protect the posters here from the upset caused by a "Drive By Thadding". People come to these sites to express themselves and all theories are entertained because that is how we all learn. We throw out what we don't like and embrace that which is proven. Even the son of Mo Howard, and Ron Reagan knows that much. It is known as 'social interaction'. Try it sometimes, you might like it.


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        • Thad

          Do you even read your own posted links –?
          It does not show the Mississippi Alluvail aquifier reaching Bayou Corne– I know it does, have a different map than the trash you posted– BUT neither map shows it connecting with the Hainesville Shale area—
          http://academic.emporia.edu/schulmem/hydro/TERM%20PROJECTS/2010/Smith/Wesley.htm
          And yes you are fine with social interaction except when you are wrong-
          I'm beginninbg to suspect your intelligence- a man claims he is a whizz on physics yet trys to repeal the laws of physic by forcing light fresh water to sink through heavier brine. Open minded but strikes out when told he is wrong before checking the proof — and not smart enough to know when to let it slide. In this case you rown proof shows you missed it.


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          • FREEDOMROX

            Do you not check updated links? HINT! (Look Above) No, MO, you won't will you? <Face meet Palm> http://www.deq.louisiana.gov/portal/Portals/0/evaluation/aeps/08MississippiRiverAlluvialAquiferSummary03.pdf

            I never tried to suspend the law of physics, but I am coming to the conclusion there is another 'Drive' involved here that is following convection and flow, ans suspends nothing other than what is observable. The Wings, comparisons brings out something I think many have missed.

            I suspect if I can find an abandoned or orphaned well, we might start finding answers. Tree Die Off, is the clue…(Don't tell anyone, shhhh!)


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            • Thad

              Abandoned/ orphan well–/ so now you're thinking it is a Hutchinson, Ks scenario? So what part is it going to play- cause the cavern collapse, make fresh water sink through the brine. What happened to the formation waters coming up with the oil and gas?
              Well if you find one let us know.


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            • FREEDOMROX

              I try to get to the heart of the matter by exploring it all. Formation water is a fact, but as I have sted before on other posts, it cannot account for the amounts being recovered according to TB's own recovery documents.
              There is another 'Play' involved here. Where? Unknown at present.
              I have found many 'Orphan Wells' in the area, but looking ofr one just North of Hwy. 70. If you would like to help in this search, then please do.
              I do know there is another force driving here, and a reason for the methane seeps.
              Do you have a better explanation? If so, please enlighten us poor benighted fools, living in the Dark Ages of your oure intelligence and wisdom.
              Thanks for the contribution Mo, and Ron.


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              • FREEDOMROX

                Keyboard ommissions:
                but as I have sted before, Should be "but as I have stated before" , and looking ofr one, Should be "looking for one" and lastly, Dark Ages of your oure intelligence and wisdom, Should read "Dark Ages of your pure intelligence and wisdom."

                I truly need a new keyboard, or ENENEWS NEEDS AN EDIT OPTION.


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              • FREEDOMROX

                Also, do not seek to know my words or mind, as I have no idea at this point if this is anything like Hutchinson. You put it out only as an attack front. Someone really has to put the shields up against a "Drive By Thadding".

                Good Shill, down Shill, give you a treat later Shill….Pat, pat, pat…Ahts a goood boy!


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                • Thad

                  Frox have you research Hutchinson, Ks? Or have you been too playing the child with the word games and name calling. Why can't you act like an adult—? Seriously— And why have you became a lair–? We made a truce and the first time I disagreed you broke that truce — broke your word—
                  You mentioned abandon well, so I mentioned Hutchinson in case you didn't know — abandon wells were involved in that incident.


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                  • FREEDOMROX

                    I have a whole article on Hutchinson, which you laughed off, remember? As for this being just like Yaggy Field? Definitely not. But there is a possibilty that the natural gas coming from the North could be responsible for the 'bubbling', for now it is just a theory, and not staing anything definitive.
                    Take a look at the very first video flyovers, and look North. It could be nothig, or it could be a possible source. In checking LDNR's records, the ownwers who abandoned several of those wells 'cannot be found'. A few are right in the area where you see the red truck. on the oil road.
                    Short answer, I don't know. I have one report about an abandoned radioactive well, but still checking into that.
                    As for a truce, well, it was predicated on you not attacking people left and right…but didn't take long for you to go back to your old ways. We do agree in a lot of ways, but will never agree when it comes to the Corporate Overlords you routinely defend. Halliburton and Boots&Coots especially since they are also a Fracking outfit as well, and advertise a larger casing so you get more 'Bang with your Buck'! As if we don't have enough problems already, it's SUPER FRAC! That was the truce-breaker. A truce is only a 'cease fire', and not an end to the war.


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                    • Thad

                      FROX — poor baby you can't admit to a mistake can you. You were wrong about B&C being an "oil clean up company" and you were wrong about when Halliburton finalised acquisition and acquired control of B&C. So what Halliburton is a company that does fracking services –along with several more- 8 at last count. Big deal for a small mind–
                      A Truce- bad joke on your part- you had no intention of honoring– your own statement tells the truth– openly admitted it was because of being caught in a mistake – carping about Halliburton and B&C because there is nothing you can find to turn it into truth– When refuted with proof you could have accepted and said nothing else and it would have have faded a way. BUT no that would require accepting that you made a mistake to no one but yourself but instead you drag from that article to this and react like a child calling names, making belittlimg remarks, playing words games– thinking it makes you look smart– it does not — it nake you look childish playing the fool — proving yourself one.


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  • Thad

    These pics taken by "On Wings of Care" on the 24Dec'12. Three days after LEAN's pics — Two sets for comparision -LH set from earler date– RH set from 24Dec.
    The trees in the Dec appear to have more leaves those postedf here– Water slick not a hint of bubbles–

    http://onwingsofcare.org/protection-a-preservation/humanitarian/346-20121224-bayoucorne-sinkhole-update.html


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    • Ibuiltthis Ibuiltthis

      Thank you Thad… Although I don't think any light bubbling would have shown up in this video, I am appreciative that someone actually took a video and posted it. The recent snips of videos we are getting are unacceptable. They have more footage and they are intentionally posting snips instead of just giving everyone a good look at what is happening.


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    • FREEDOMROX

      One thing I will give to you Thad is this excellent Video, which shows that just before Xmas and everyone pointing out the Heli's that the North and West sides have indeed subsided by as much as a foot. Check the tree line, volume of water observed, and it becomes obvious. Also Texas Brine report shows it 'burped' and is intermittantly 'bubbling'.
      I can also see light artifacts at the 1000 ft. level this wonderful woman was flying at. The Lean Pilot was definitely under 100 ft. and was being buffeted by the ground reflective currents. Also the camera gear was nowhere near the same quality.
      I have zoomed in and still analyzing the vid…get back to ya.
      Good catch though!


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  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Funny how fracking jobs have been proven to release the same chemicals coming up in the sinkhole
    Air and health

    Many particulates and chemicals can be released into the atmosphere during the process of hydraulic fracturing, such as sulfuric oxide, nitrous oxides, volatile organic compounds (VOC), benzene, toluene, diesel fuel, hydrogen sulfide which can have serious health implications. A study conducted between August 2011 and July 2012 as part of Earthworks’ Oil & Gas Accountability Project (OGAP) found chemical contaminants in the air and water of rural communities affected by the Shale extraction process in central New York and Pennsylvania. The study found disproportionately high numbers of adverse health effects in children and adults in those communities.[93]

    A potential hazard that is commonly overlooked is the venting of bulk sand silos directly to atmosphere. When they are being filled, or emptied during the fracture job, a fine cloud of silica particulate will be vented directly into atmosphere. This dust has the potential to travel many kilometers on the wind directly into populated areas. While the immediate personnel are wearing personal protective equipment, other people in the area of a well fracture can potentially be exposed.

    I know there is no current fracking in the bayou corne area however there has been in the past.


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  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Fracking connected to deep well waste water disposal has been banned in Arkansas due to the risk of contaminating aquifers


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  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Radioactive ommissions used in the fracking industry include but are not limited to
    Lists provided by companies do not include many radioactive tracers used in hydraulic fracturing, such as Antimony-121, Antimony-122, Antimony-123, Antimony-124, Antimony-125, Antimony-126, Antimony-127, Chromium-51, Cobalt-57, Cobalt-58, Cobalt-60, Gold-198, Iodine-127, Iodine-128, Iodine-129, Iodine-130, Iodine-131 (one of the most commonly named in patents of the process, with a half life of 8 days[116]), Iridium-192, Iron-59, Krypton-85, Lanthanum-140, Potassium-39 (activated to Potassium-40), Potassium-41 (activated to Potassium-42), Potassium-43, Rubidium-86, Scandium-45, Scandium-46, Scandium-47, Scandium-48, Silver-110, Strontium-85, Xenon-133, Zinc-65, and Zirconium-95. Several are typically combined and injected together.[49][50][51][117] Their half lives range from 40 hours (Lanthanum-140) to 10.8 years (Krypton-85)


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  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Shale gas itself presents another potential problem. A recent study by researchers at Duke University showed that methane frequently leaks into drinking water near active fracking sites, which probably explains why some homeowners have been able to set their tap water on fire. Yet another possible source of contamination is so-called “flowback” water. Huge quantities of water are used in fracking, and as much as forty per cent of it can come back up out of the gas wells, bringing with it corrosive salts, volatile organic compounds, and radioactive elements, such as radium. Citing public-health concerns, Pennsylvania recently asked drillers to stop taking flowback water to municipal treatment plants.


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    • Thad

      TM 2020 There has been no hydro fraking within ~ 300 miles of the Napoleanville saltdome– The area mention in the KPLC-TV report has not been fracked and the area – Bundicks Lake is over 150 miles from Bayou Corne.
      If you wish you can check a map for distance between the two. As far as drlg wells matter of public record, but if you don't know what to look for a simple e-mail to LDNR should get you an answer–


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