Largest US Newspaper Publisher: ‘Enough radioactivity to poison millions’ in Fukushima Unit 4 — Radiation to hit West Coast of US would be ‘far more’ than trace amounts if fuel rods exposed, says Senator

Published: June 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm ET
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Fukushima still feeds lawmakers’ concerns for West Coast
Gannett
Paul C. Barton
June 3, 2012

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Spent fuel rods, containing enough radioactivity to poison millions, remain in pools of water covered only with plastic in the badly damaged Unit No. 4. If the building ever collapses, experts have warned, the rods could become exposed and the radiation leakage would be unprecedented.

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The amounts of radioactivity that could drift to the West Coast, [Ron Wyden (Democrat-Oregon)] said, would be far more than trace amounts.

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Published: June 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm ET
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53 comments to Largest US Newspaper Publisher: ‘Enough radioactivity to poison millions’ in Fukushima Unit 4 — Radiation to hit West Coast of US would be ‘far more’ than trace amounts if fuel rods exposed, says Senator

  • Jebus Jebus

    We are all just being conditioned into thinking that, what has happened is trivial, as opposed to what could happen.

    That SFP is going to be ok and miraculously, the world will be "saved" by Japan and the brave efforts of Tepo's workers….

    Spin, spin, spin…

    All designed carefully to relieve the burden of guilt from the Nuclear Industry.


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  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    Wow, when do they start making glowing green radioactive popsicles, so we can feed them to the fishies in the green glowing ocean?

    12 reasons why all nuclear power plants must be shut down; via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/12-reasons-why-all-nuclear-power-plants.html


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  • Max1 Max1

    I had to tell a coworker this analogy:

    Our Governments have conditioned us to believe that they're the good mommy/daddy/nanny State and told us to go play in the highway and that they'd let us know when a cargo truck is headed our way…
    … Except this time they've decided to NOT yell out to the kids, "Watch out, move away!"

    Her response:

    "So, do you mean we have to watch out for ourselves?"

    .


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    Are we sure some of the fuel rods aren't exposed?
    Why are we, finding radiation levels here?
    Why don't we hear from the media and officials more about this disaster?

    Feels like…We are just waiting until chit hits the fan

    Do you feel fully updated? Remember that continual low dosages of radiation is harmful.

    Click Here>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAfO4fcP8UY


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  • Fukushima is now zombieland as the cancer rates are going to be astronomical – the people just don't know it yet. Will be 5 to 6 more years before the cancers peak from the original irradiation. But it won't stop there because radiation is additive. The morbidity and mortality will increase until the fission stops. The percentages will not be as high in the rest of the world, but they will be significant.

    When 4 goes, and it will, it will only be 3 or 4 times as bad as what is already happening in the other 3.


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi EdWardMD

      Agree..However, I think some people there know it, just like we do.

      I am truely sorry that this happened to their Country and the people there. My heart goes out to everyone that will be effected by this. I believe this monster is encircling all of us.

      This type of disaster can happen anywhere. End Nuclear Power.


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    • Cancer rates will be astronomical everywhere. It'll just hit Japan a lot faster due to high acute and chronic doses. The rest of us get the equivalent of big bomb test fallout, which is relatively low level chronic (yet cumulative). You know what happened with cancer rates since the 1950s. All the way to 2010, when lifetime cancer morbidity rates in the industrial world were just over 1 in 3. We are now told to expect the rate to be 1 in 2 by 2020, and that projection was before Daiichi. That just ups the odds some more.

      Our luck in achieving remission with barbaric treatments is better than it used to be. If you have non-junk insurance and lots of money, that is. If not, you're SOL. The U.S. staunchly believes health care is a privilege of class, and the middle class has been targeted for extinction in the 'New Feudalism'. When 90% of the population are destitute serfs, lack of health care will cure the overpopulation problem. Our government and its corporate puppeteers were busy as bees implementing that sociopolitical pogrom before Fukushima. It hasn't changed.

      Half to two-thirds of Fuku children have thyroid nodules/lesions a year later (and that's just iodine's marker). It won't take the previous 'worst case' 5-10 years for the awful truth to make itself obvious, because it's worse than previous assumptions ever allowed. The Japanese don't have much time, but most will receive medical care. We have more time, but no real hope.


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      • Bobby1

        Well, I can think of better ways to cure the overpopulation problem. Auschwitz-style death camps, soldiers breaking into homes and shooting everyone, mass conventional bombing of civilians, etc. These techniques do not destroy the genetic basis of life on earth. It's a funny way to stop overpopulation.

        Thyroid cancer starts in something like 1-4 years, this is imminent. Japan is faster than the US in cancer and heart disease morbidity, the west coast is faster than the east coast, the east coast is faster than Europe. Practically, there isn't much difference. Morbidity rates are higher in the worst Japanese areas, the rates are lower in the US, but the incidence areas are much larger geographically here. Dilution just makes the areas of morbidity instances larger.


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        • It was civilization's own mission to eradicate the awful toll of infant mortality and childhood disease that led to overpopulation – a project undertaken back when we were still mostly 'human' in the empathic sense that bemoaned the heartbreak of children dying. Which to us seemed so sadly "unnatural." Life expectancy rose accordingly as the odds of living to adulthood were so vastly improved. Dead babies and children had long skewed the statistics, and we somehow believed that if we could just ensure a good chance to grow up, people would limit the exponential growth of the population by their own decision, each child becoming that much more precious to us.

          This only ensured many more humans living long enough to become breeders, and now we cannot sustain our numbers as the environment becomes increasingly poisoned by the for-profit nest-fouling of ruling elites. The serfs can cling to ancient gods who drink the blood of innocents. Humanity has not managed to rise above that strange aberration for all our supposed 'enlightenment'. I doubt we ever will.

          Death is and has always been universal in all generations. Time is all we ever had, and time is relative. Modern health care in its quest to alleviate suffering has gifted us with longer – but not happier – lives. So the lords will now reserve that gift to themselves. The rest of us need only die without complaint, out of their sight.


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      • Jebus Jebus

        Cancer Problems Look Set To Nearly Double

        The occurrence of cancer looks set to double over the next 15+ years with researchers predicting a 75% rise in cancer incidence by 2030. In poorer countries, the number is closer to 90%

        http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/246111.php

        Nuclear Power, Acceptable Risk?

        Speak Up People, Louder!


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      • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

        Sadly true JoyB. We will also see an increase in allowing people to *Die with Dignity & Mercy killings as the costs for healthcare (in countries where healthcare is taxpayer supported) becomes too much of a burden.

        If you add the tax cuts given to corporations & the subsidies they receive you almost equal the cuts governments are making. The *elite now refuse to contribute to the infrastructure, like roads, schools, hospitals ect. Even though they used it to become billionaires they now have their own hospitals, schools & roads ect. to pay for.

        And this will help cut out the middle class & force everyone to become *serfs.

        Also *forcing the use of more temporary workers in order to force the wages lower will contribute to our destruction. This will save Corporations even more money. Add more savings as they replace more people with robots.

        The new push is to claim that in order for us to use less power rates Must increase. By doing this they *win in 2 ways. Should more Green energy replace coal & oil they cover that loss. And as the population decreases they also cover that loss too.

        Be sure to take a look at the members & you understand the reasoning for this report. Noting as well that some make Green energy products too.

        Find the pdf on the left.

        Energy-Wise Canada: Building a Culture of Energy Conservation http://www.ceocouncil.ca/about-ccce/members


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    I believe we have had more than traces of radiation here.

    Continual low dosages of radiation is harmful.

    It's like how many diet cookies can you have before it no longer is a diet cookie.


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  • hehe hehe .. the senator says "rods exposed" .. hehe hehe

    Fuku radiation monitoring links and remediation protocols
    http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/forum/index.php/board,24.0.html


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  • Take a look at Edwin Lyman's vita
    http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1129/ML11299A087.pdf

    He is quoted in this article at stating the following:

    Despite its severity, the Fukushima disaster was not as severe as scenarios that U.S. government scientists have used to assess when it would be necessary to declare fishing areas off limits or interdict food supplies, said Edwin Lyman of the Union of Concerned Scientists, a Washington-based research and advocacy organization.

    Even 10 times the March 2011 radiation release, Lyman said, would only endanger Japan — and possibly Alaska and U.S. territories.

    For now, he said, scare stories alleging cover-ups of Fukushima's effect on the United States should be disregarded.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Already been much more than "trace amounts" dumped on the U.S, and beyond. This I know for fact.


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  • harengus_acidophilus

    Look at these tiny "trace amounts", how nice!

    "He is dead?"
    "Yes."
    "How?"
    "I'm not sure, i've only found "trace amounts" from a bullet, but it's to low for a lead poisoning."
    "Let's dig for another cause."

    h


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  • gottagetoffthegrid

    Lemme see, IIRC from the NRC FOIP transcripts, and I read 2500 pages or more, SPF 3 and SPF 4 boiled dry and burned c.march 2011

    Fuck. Fuk. Fuku


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  • norbu norbu

    how long before the chit hits the fan?


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  • norbu norbu

    yes you are right! I am with you on that, I was talking about the effects. When are they going to run to there bunkers? When the Carrington effect happens and there are 300 meltdowns?


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  • arclight arclight

    a japan today article

    err slightly biased maybe… very goebbels like in its choice of input data.. forgot about chernobyl and the children of gomel sort of thing..

    Radioactivity: Japan's invisible enemy within
    By Karyn Poupée

    NATIONAL JUN. 04, 2012

    "…Even if early man could not see viruses or bacteria, he was confronted with their lethal impact. “People treat nuclear contamination as if it were disease contamination—emotionally, they think about mere exposure and not dose,” said John Tooby, a professor at the University of California at Santa Barbara and an expert on the evolutionary origins of emotion.

    “Although we live bathed in a sea of background radiation, people treat any increment as a dire risk.”.."

    university of california again?? ;)

    http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/radioactivity-japans-invisible-enemy-within?utm_campaign=jt_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jt_newsletter_2012-06-04_AM

    a painful read.. :(


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    • arclight arclight

      from the article for posterity.. can you spot the obvious mistakes?

      "…The answer is complex and laced with contradictions, starting with the fact that most people don’t even think twice about absorbing radiation doses delivered through medical X-rays or scans…."

      "…Unlike harmful iodine 131, which disappears in matter of days…"

      and this abomination of a psychological/nuclear theory from france

      "..“Anything that can penetrate inside our bodies fills us with apprehension, and triggers an ancestral or ancient fear,” said Herve Chneiweiss, a neurologist at the Centre for Psychiatry and Neuroscience at Universite Paris Descartes…."


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      • arclight arclight

        i will have a go on this one.. lol :)

        "..Anything that can penetrate inside our bodies fills us with apprehension, and triggers an ancestral or ancient fear.."

        NOT according to my ex-wife

        lol!

        i am sure old freud might have something to say about that statement too! children are always sticking things in places they shouldnt.. so where is the ancestral fear there?

        and they didnt know about bacteria etc, so what were they afraid of? if i got real clever on the psychology stuff i might draw the conclusion that the writer had some such fear and was projecting it into her article.. i off course mean anxiety..

        "he related emotions of disgust and fear are examined in their full range from normal to pathological. We propose that disgust plays a functional role in some anxiety disorders, specific phobias in particular. Basic research in disgust and fear is reviewed, and these emotions are contrasted in terms of their functional value, behavioral intentions, physiological processes, and acquisition mechanisms. Cognitive appraisals of danger and contamination are discussed as a mechanism for the role of disgust in some anxiety disorders. Finally, we …. finding value in the concepts of imprecise emotional labeling and a synergistic model of a bidirectional association between disgust and fear.."

        http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1093/clipsy.7.3.291/abstract

        you didnt think i was going to qoute freud? lol!


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  • norbu norbu

    gee how crazy, "The partial meltdown of three reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant released caesium particles and other radioactive elements into the air, soil and sea" partial? is like a half flat tire?


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    • CB CB

      I remember 2,500 different radioactive isotopes released, only some being studied and understood have made it into the common vocabulary. I thought of it as 2,500 different kinds of aerosol. Each particle has the same potential to travel like H2O particles. Flow into clouds, vegetation, food, and carried in the air for 30 years. New buckeyeballs and elements are created from sodium interaction. Unknown consequences await all life forms.


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  • Radio VicFromOregon

    Radiation is radiation is radiation is not true. There is radiation, and then, there is radiation. We must keep in mind Majia's insight of how a favored area of expertise creates situational blindness for scholars and scientists, or anyone for that matter. I must wonder if primarily profit scientists are being interviewed rather than science scientists. Profit scientists may reject a great deal of information that gets in the way of their careers and their income. You don't do research to discover, you do research on something in particular to figure out how to shape it into what your employer wants. Everything else is either irrelevant or nonessential to your findings. Thus, we may assume that some of the most important scientific breakthroughs go undiscovered or unrecognized for their value while scientists look at their world and their work through such a self limiting lens.


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  • razzz razzz

    Gee, I wonder if (3) nuclear reactors melting down would give these people a clue as to what the consequences might be from any fallout. The result of these meltdowns keeps trickling in albeit belatedly but doesn't takeaway from the fact it is now already a reality.

    If Spent Fuel Pond #4 could be a problem, how do they define Units #1 #2 & #3 meltdown events when it comes to dangerous situations?

    At least the frame of mind seems to be changing or somebody is finally waking up.


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  • CB CB

    I thought 1 nuclear fuel rod is capable of killing 2.89 Billion people. 1,500+ fuel rods in SFP #4. Let alone units 5&6 condition still unknown. How many SFPs do they have. Absolutely no coverage of #5&6. Tokoi, & Daini. Diani was under water. Sooooo, that would mean a similar scenario. How many SFPs are on site?


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  • CB CB

    1 nuclear fuel rod is capable of killing 2.89 Billion people. 1,500+ fuel rods in SFP #4. Let alone units 5&6 condition still unknown. How many SFPs do they have? Absolutely no coverage of #5&6. Tokoi, & Daini. Diani was under water. Soooooooooo, that would mean a similar scenario. How many SFPs are on site? Let me see, do the math, carry the.. add the..plus number off… x 14 and whalaaa!!! Misspelled Billions up there. Not to mention the food chain.


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  • Pat Kittle

    This planet cannot sustain over 7 billion humans!

    How obvious does that have to be??

    A population is ALWAYS limited, by either birth control or death control. Those who rejected the birth control option are now getting what they wished for.


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    • Tumrgrwer Tumrgrwer

      There is only a few million this way downwind. Can't see wiping out the US and Japan will do for the good of the planet. I understand about the 7 billion but taking out an ocean, a major food supplier…I get it now.


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  • Insight

    ALERT- This information is critical if true.
    Please view.
    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2214/445/America_Threatens_China:_Pentagon_Prepares_For_Confrontation_In_The_Asia-Pacific.html

    "Washington has pledged to deploy 60 percent of the above to the Asia-Pacific region in the imminent future."

    What are they thinking? What if unit 4 has a meltdown while the US fleet is in the nearby areas?
    The nuclear pollution already in the ocean is an eminent threat to the lives of the Americans on those ships.


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