Published: April 12th, 2012 at 12:07 am ET
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Title: Gundersen Speaks with Chris Martenson on Current Status of Fukushima (Part I)
Source: Chris Martenson Podcast via Fairewinds Associates, Inc
Date: April ?? 2012 Actually June 2011
h/t Enformable (Enformable received podcast via email alert today and posted believing it to be new… if you re-listen it does sound like it could be from this month)
At 30:20 in
Chris Martenson: So talk about — realistically – I mean this is going to be months, years, whatever, it’s going to take a long time. What do they do at this point, are they going to entomb these things, are they required to just keep dumping water on these things until they finally cool down, capturing water all the way through? Or is there some way that they can maybe just throw up their hands and just pour a bunch of concrete on it and call it a day?
Arnie Gundersen: I think eventually they may get to the point of throwing up their hands and pouring the concrete on. They can’t do that yet, because the cores are still too hot. So we are going to see the dance we’re in for another year or so, until the cores cool down. At that point, there’s not anywhere near as much decay heat and you probably could consider filling them with concrete and just letting sit there, like we have it at Chernobyl, as a giant mausoleum. That would work for units 1, 2, and 3. Unit 4 is still a problem, because again all the fuel is at the top and you can’t put the concrete at the top because you will collapse the building and it’s so radioactive, you can’t lift the nuclear fuel out. I used to do this as a living and Unit 4 has me stumped. [...]
Listen to the 36 minute program here
Published: April 12th, 2012 at 12:07 am ET
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Umm… Has anyone thought about asking Iran for suggestions/assistance?
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Fukushima Reactor 4; Life Extinction Event If It Collapses; via A Green Road Blog
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/fukushima-reactor-4-life-extinction.html
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Students of US Imperial Intransigence may recall that in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, George Bush The Wise declined medical assistance from Cuba, to the detriment of many of our unfortunate citizenry…
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HOW TO SAVE UNIT 4 FROM COLLAPSE BUILT A METAL FISH TANK AROUND THE WHOLE UNIT THICK AND STRUCTURALLY SAFE FROM EARTHQUAKES AND TIDAL WAVES.
THEN FILL THE THING.
AS TO THE CRACKS UNDERGROUND FILL WITH ELEMENTS
MARK
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We all know that this should have been done in the begining !
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Repost: okie dokie..
nuckelchen
April 12, 2012 at 2:15 am · Reply
the next text is an intro from nuckelchen to make him much more viral:
i'm paranoid ?
WHO?
i maybe!
MY BABY?
oh nonono…
MY MUMU?
…the machines…
MY MUSCHINSKIES?
…ya, your damn fukumachinas:
http://youtu.be/tN0t0iJJUOs
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Pour it here..it comes up there..nuclear whack-a- mole..
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PS.Not the cement… the radiation. the reactors are interconnected underground…
Weird machines..better get to it.
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".nuclear whack-a- mole..".
Can I PLAY? Can I play? Ohh, Ohhh,…can I warm-up for the TEPCO officials? whack-a-mole? 'We' could draw a lottery for that privilege. (Oops,….there I GO again!)
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Total Fukushima Radiation Released Into Ocean, Air, Groundwater, Storage Tanks; via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/02/total-fukushima-radiation-released-into.html
What really happened at Fukushima? via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/02/what-really-happened-at-fukushima.html
How Dangerous Is 400-600 Pounds Of Plutonium Nano Particle Dust Liberated By Fukushima? Via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/how-dangerous-is-400-600-pounds-of.html
Is Fukushima really in cold shutdown? via A Green Road Blog
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/fukushima-is-it-really-in-cold-shutdown.html
Fukushima Lies Movie Part I and II; via A Green Road Blog; via A Green Road Blog
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/fukushima-lies-movie-part-i-and-ii.html
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The Lottery..Shirley Jackson..1948..
An old standard..yep..something like the Lottery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lottery
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Yeah,……that's the ONE! (Sorry, 'Christian Passivity',no longer applies here!)
"Send THEM to me,…and 'these things' will cease happening among you"–The Holy Writ
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A quick paragraph from OC Guinness..Time For Truth..2000
"As the reaction to "The Lottery"reveals,the late1960's slogan painted on the wall at the Sorbonne-"It is forbidden to forbid"-now covers thoughts and analysis as well as actions".
Censuring is commonly confused with censoring and moral judgement has been paralyzed.Many discussions are now devoid of a backup crime or evil that will elicit universal condemnation.Even the Holocaust is increasingly "personally deplored"but not morally condemned."
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(cont)….Earlier,playwright Bertold Brecht claimed that the eleventh century commandment of the modern world was "be good to yourself". Today it has been replaced by a new candidate:"Thou shall not judge". In such a world, what follows is simple: When nothing can be judged except judgement itself-"judgmentalism"-the barriers between the unthinkable,acceptable and doable collapse entirely.And then,since life goes on and the sky doesn't fall, the people draw the conclusion that the original concern was unfounded. Lighten up,the newly amoral say as they skip forward blithely,complicit in their own corruption."
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define what – is – evil and I shall turn the mirror upon itself…
The reason so many are bereft of 'moral' commitment is due more to cynicism than anything else. They've long witnessed the guardians of righteousness abusing the very thing they claim as standard. In a world where one is spun from one horror to another, the commoner recoils and resigns self to immediate gratification as their enduring reward. They refuse to be taken as fools by anyone…anymore. They do long (inside) for a return to universal justice. They will quickly acknowledge the need for personal sacrifice for benefit of all, but not when they're the only ones being asked to make it.
Know the nature of what's about you and ye shall know thyself…
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Anyone who still thinks nuclear energy is safe is ignorant of what is really going on…
Dr. Chris Busby; Consequences of Burning Radioactive Waste In Japan; via A Green Road Blog
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/dr-chris-busby-consequences-of-burning.html
No Solutions For Nuclear Disasters Or Nuclear Waste; via A Green Road Blog
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/no-solutions-for-nuclear-disasters.html
What Happens To Nuclear Waste In Your Country? via A Green Road Blog
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/what-happens-to-nuclear-waste-in-your.html
93 Long life Radiation Contaminants; via A Green Road Blog
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/93-long-lived-nuclear-elements.html
Depleted Uranium Effects In The Human Body; via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/depleted-uranium-effects-in-human-body.html
Nuclear Plants And Radioactive Water Contamination; via A Green Road Blog
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/nuclear-plants-and-radioactive-water.html
This is all happening near YOU.
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Arn't R1, R2, R3 with SFP as well?
SFP of 3 suffered explosion(s).
Is it possible to poor concrete on the SFP of 1 and 2?
If so, poor concrete all over (inside, bellow, around) R4 as to make it a single full formless "block" of concrete with the rods inside, as for the R1 and R2 SFP.
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A lot of shaking going on in California. Better shut the MF's down.
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Seems the shaking is man-made in some cases:
http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1159854–earthquakes-linked-to-oil-and-gas-extraction-studies-show
Gundersen's last sentence above worries me.
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Agreed.
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Strong pair of 6.2 and 6.9 earthquakes strike Gulf of California
http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2012/04/12/strong-pair-of-6-2-and-6-9-earthquakes-strike-gulf-of-california/
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It seems like its rippling up the coast and you'd think Wash. & BC might be next?
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It's right near Hanford – just our luck.
Also, a 5.6 right near Fukushima – 30 miles away, 23km depth.
MAP 5.6 2012/04/12 14:50:53 37.539 141.568 23.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
At UTC 14:50:53
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
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Whenever you hear the phrase "decay heat", think of bananas and airplanes.
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Nuclear industries of the world are helpless against a broken reactor.
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