Local news shows ‘amazing’ and ‘terrifying’ images of wildfire that threatens Los Alamos nuke lab (VIDEO)

Published: June 27th, 2011 at 11:17 pm ET
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Viewers on the frontlines of the fire, KRQE, June 27, 2011 at 8:15 pm EDT:

Viewers on the frontlines of the fire : krqe.com

Published: June 27th, 2011 at 11:17 pm ET
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91 comments to Local news shows ‘amazing’ and ‘terrifying’ images of wildfire that threatens Los Alamos nuke lab (VIDEO)

  • WindorSolarPlease

    We have Fukushima radiation that keeps blowing into the US layers on top of layers.

    In the US we have Fort Calhoun, Cooper Nuclear Station, Los Alamos Laboratory, and an Air Force base, overseeing 150 Minuteman III missiles in underground launch silos over 8,500 square miles, is partially under water, are all in possible danger.
    Am I missing any thing else here?

    If I was a betting person, I would say the odds are not in our favor.

    This world is going through a change, earth is unsteady with earth quakes, floods, and fire. Something this dangerous has no place here.

    Even if it takes years, please close down all these highly dangerous plants.

    • WindorSolarPlease

      I did miss something…Can’t forget we have the Gulf Disaster

    • In case you missed it
      MSNBC Nighty News
      3 Nuclear facilities in danger
      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619//vp/43555573#43555573

      • WindorSolarPlease

        Good link…Thank You, because of all these disasters I think the majority of people are realizing Nuclear is not the best way to go.

        To bad there is Arrogant Greedy people without thought of others well being, who wants to allow something this dangerous.

      • ZombiePlanet ZombiePlanet

        What wisdom.

        Oh thank you.

        • ZombiePlanet ZombiePlanet

          Apparently I have the admiration of impersonators.

          NSA, CIA, crap MI5… Take your pick.

          The above post is a imposter.

          Did I touch a nerve?

          Oh, they are “so” sensitive.

      • BetaFlare

        Please se the new version; I dug out most of the juicy parts for fokks to see how the old Nuke Plants are sudded with Plutonium. Is used to increase power in most reactors in the world.

        In optimal world, lots of general Electric folks would end in jail because of this txt – but alas not here: they will get a medal from obummer…

        Please copy n save as long as it exists here:

        http://wp.me/pwIAV-1

      • WindorSolarPlease

        Unfortunately, this is reality. I really wish that it wasn’t so.
        Well written majia

      • milk and cheese milk and cheese

        It is a fine essay, Majia, but there is nothing new about this. The ‘new reality’ has been around since 1945. No one should have used these hellish things for *anything* after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Nevertheless, we did. One man on this site protested the nuclear plants from the beginning and wrote recently that he made no difference. No one listens to sheep protesting in a slaughterhouse.
        Los Alamos is a fire risk and this has been known for some time.
        The “Dome” fire of 1996 nearly incinerated the lab. It was reported in the MSM at the time.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dome_Fire_from_LANL.jpg
        If the firemen are *still* not prepared to deal with a nuclear holocaust there…15 years was either too short a time to learn, or else it was considered hopeless to even try.
        And the USA should have immediately stopped all nuclear power plants after Three Mile Island. The fact that we did NOT, that plants were allowed to operate despite leaks and spills, shows that Kurt Vonnegut was right: Humans did not like it here.

  • roccman

    will be “interesting” to fight these monster fires without oil.

  • jump-ball jump-ball

    KUDOS to the local affiliates for giving viewers the realities of the unfolding local disasters that are immediately suppressed or blacked out at the national level.

    • alasanon

      TOTALLY blacked out! It’s all Casey Anthony news all the time…By the way, I don’t think she’s attractive or titillating, deserving of glorification, or newsworthy! Run of the mill domestic violence suspect yadda yadda.

      NM and NE and Fukushima are the RELEVANT items to cover 24/7!!!

      • TV is used for worthless bubble gum for the eyeballs 90% of the time !
        Take that air time and run ads on missing and runaway Children and many other most important and useful things !

        • ZombiePlanet ZombiePlanet

          Wow.

          Never knew that.

          keep up the good work xdrfox.

          WOW

          • ZombiePlanet ZombiePlanet

            Apparently I have the admiration of impersonators.

            NSA, CIA, crap MI5, 6 … Take your pick.

            The above post is a imposter.

            Did I touch a nerve?

            Oh, they are “so” sensitive.

            As_hole crap that they are.

          • ZombiePlanet ZombiePlanet

            Admin can confirm.

      • alasanon

        It’s actually really SCARY how off-base the media is now. Having to stare at Casey Anthony’s hapless mug on every TV at the fitness center when you KNOW events of serious national import are afoot is crazy…. I wanted to scream– I DON’T CARE ABOUT CASEY ANTHONY!!!
        AGGGHHHH!!

        The programming, or shall I say, lack thereof, overt deceit, and dumbing down, is well underway. It’s crazy!!

  • DarylAnn

    again I am simply astonished that CNN is not on top of this story, or Ft. Calhoun, or Fukushima and the constant radioactive release ……

    beginning to look like someone or something has created a concerted effort to undermine nuclear facilities en masse

    starting to feel like I’m in some sort of Nuclear-Nightmare Funhouse & can’t escape

    welcome to the Hotel Nuclear-Nightmare
    you can check out anytime but you can never leave

    ugghhh…….. disgusted and very frightened at the same time

    • ZombiePlanet ZombiePlanet

      CNN is creatable.

      I’ll get there soon, I hope.

      • ZombiePlanet ZombiePlanet

        Apparently I have the admiration of impersonators.

        NSA, CIA, crap MI5, 6… Take your pick.

        The above post is a imposter.

        Did I touch a nerve?

        Oh, they are “so” sensitive.

        Admin can confirm.

        Did I hurt you little, … low-life?

    • alasanon

      I agree!!! It’s getting extremely creepy. LOTS of programming, but NO genuine content!!!!

    • “Nuclear-Nightmare Funhouse”, very funny, and not very funny. More unfunny than funny. Good post though…

  • tony wilson

    the journalist in this report says people have been asked to move because of the smoky air : )

    smok·y
       /ˈsmoʊki/ Show Spelled[smoh-kee] Show
    –adjective, smok·i·er, smok·i·est.
    1.
    emitting smoke, especially in large amounts.
    2.
    hazy; darkened or begrimed with smoke.
    3.
    having the character or appearance of smoke: smoky colors
    4.
    pertaining to or suggestive of smoke: a smoky haze.
    5.
    of a dull or brownish gray; cloudy.

    dictionary says nothing about smoky plutonium.

    ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LytpI8Dt8a4&feature=relmfu

  • roccman

    Well – if I were king and I were going to set off an EMP – I would work damn hard to insure the nucs are “put away” well in advance.

    I would not be surprised if a global full stop on nucs is next – soon – the blood drinkers have known the kill off is ordained – dealing with nucs has always haunted them – “how do we keep from radiating the planet during teh kill off?”

    but then – this is all tin…or is it?

  • FML

    Viewers help take pictures, how about helping fight the fire! Damn, if the government will take care of my airfare and hotel stay, I’ll fight it. People are strong in numbers but instead everyone sits back and scratches their heads like a bunch of primates. Hell, we could overthrow our sorry excuse for a government if we all got together.

    • FML

      /End Rant. Back to sad reality.

    • ocifferdave

      I dont want viewers fighting any fires unless they are trained as a team first with proper gear. Fire fighters see those people as more important to keep safe than the trees, homes, etc. They would be slowing them down.

  • WindorSolarPlease

    As a daughter of a Fireman/EMT of a Highly Security National Laboratory, he would say “You don’t mess with fire”

  • DarylAnn

    oh yes……. I can learn everything I want about the Casey Anthony trial, what puppet is running for office in a year and a half from now, the horrors in the middle east but NOTHING but a glossing over of the nuclear crisis

    yes it’s maddening

  • bincbom

    Sad, but karmically it makes sense, since Los Alamos and the Manhattan Project begat the Nuclear Boy at Fukushima – by any measure the world’s most extreme, catastrophic industrial disaster.

  • blackmoon

    “Radioactive cesium from Fukushima expected to reach U.S. West Coast in 5 years”

    “The Japan Atomic Energy Agency (JAEA) has compiled a map predicting how cesium-137 will spread throughout the Pacific Ocean in the long term. Cesium-137, whose half life is 30 years, is one of the radioactive substances leaking from the crippled nuclear power station.”

    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110627p2a00m0na009000c.html

    On a brighter note. Japan is waking up!

    “Yamaguchi governor bans construction of nuclear power plant”

    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110627p2a00m0na008000c.html

    • westcoastgirl westcoastgirl

      Somehow, 5 years seems like a generous prediction…

    • ocifferdave

      I did an at work at the desk fist pump into the air WHOOHOO! when I read that a prefecture governor says NO NUKES. Give him a German Gold Star.

  • NoNukes NoNukes

    Check out this map, they show fires, floods, etc. EXCEPT in New Mexico, the whole state is blank:
    http://www.wunderground.com/severe.asp

    • WindorSolarPlease

      That is weird. Why would they skip that area?

      • Due to it being where Los Alamos nuke lab is situated is perhaps what NoNukes is getting at and yes it is certainly weird. Looking at the map right now and New Mexico is still a blank.

    • blackmoon

      “It is one of many self-help citizen groups near the plant in Fukushima, where many areas are exposed to around 13 or more millisieverts of radiation a year, about 6.5 times natural background radiation levels, a city survey showed.”

      That was the point of that recent History Channel “docu-movie” When Aliens Attack. The gist of that movie was, when stuff hits the fan, don’t expect help from the government.

    • WindorSolarPlease

      I have never had an import car.
      However, even US cars have imported parts to them.

      I just don’t see them checking everything that comes in, for radiation.

      Maybe there really isn’t any need to, since we have layers after layers over here anyway?

  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    Try this for your morning dose of humor:

    In 2009, the U.S. Department of Energy’s inspector general issued a report that said Los Alamos County firefighters weren’t sufficiently trained to handle the unique fires they could face with hazardous or radioactive materials at the 36-square mile complex.

    Exit stage right to twilight zone theme… From twilight zone theme

    • WindorSolarPlease

      Are they bringing in people who do have that type training?

      Any State in the area that has these Plants, their fire fighters should be trained in this.
      I agree, it is like the twilight zone program.

      Good Afternoon ladies and gentlemen,
      Welcome onboard to the US Twilight Zone. We ask that you take to your seats. Keep your seats in the up right position and have your seatbelts securely fastened, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.
      Hope you enjoy breathing in the US Twilight Zone.
      Thank you for staying and taking a chance.

      • risabee risabee

        I would guess the massive military convoy that went in there included some NBC-trained people in NBC-hardened vehicles. But there’s been so much top-quality Simpsons around all this that there’s no sayin’, really…

  • Bob Hardin Bob Hardin

    Folks, this continuous series of threats to nuclear plants by earthquakes, floods and fires is not a conspiracy–unless it’s a conspiracy of the gods. No one else could cause these events.

    The coverup is a conspiracy, all right, but not the underlying events. Can we at least keep that straight?

  • pg

    Stop being sheep. “Look into the crystal ball”…does this ring a bell?

    If you are focused enough you will spot the lops and lies in Japan. Japn is being destroyed. THEY NEED HELP!!!!

    Everything else appears to be BS.

  • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

    Since so many here seem to be perplexed about why the media is not covering this hte way we think they ought to, the complete answer to that question is in the following book

    IN THE ABSENCE OF THE SACRED
    by Jerry Mander

    It is an awesome read and will take you pretty far down the rabbit hole.

    The world of media in 1st world countries will make a lot more sense to you after you read it.

    Which will be a lot like Neo waking up in the Nebuchadnezzar in the movie The Matrix.

  • Jebus Jebus

    There is and always will be HOPE…
    I like the signs the best…

    The worst
    Ever
    Polluting
    COmpany

  • ZombiePlanet ZombiePlanet

    I truly enjoy expressions, from the degraded and depraved paid gov cronies, who attach themselves to the truth…

    A Parasite as I was taught in school.

    And one found me.

    Go figure.
    🙂

  • Updated my page for 28th, a bit late today sorry.

  • Spock CIAspy

    The end is near. Don’t panick!

  • Alex2245

    Well looks like things are REALLY heating up!!!

    Los Alamos Fire: Several Metric Tons Of Radioactive Plutonium Stored In Fabric Tents Outside Los Alamos National Laboratory?
    http://theintelhub.com/2011/06/28/los-alamos-fire-several-tents-of-radioactive-plutonium-stored-in-fabric-tens-outside-national-laboratory/

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Thanks for the web site. I’m sure this lab has some real nasty stuff. Unreal, what a nightmare.

  • uhoh

    Hi all – I’ve been reading the board the past couple of months but haven’t posted as the existing comments pretty much said it all. I’m located in northwest PA about 400 miles inland from east coast. Concerned about radiation so ordered a gieger counter and it finally arrived a couple of weeks ago! This is a low end model (DX-2 by RDX Nuclear) so no data port but should be fine for a newbie to learn from. Specs say it detects beta, gamma & xray. 1st I RTFM. The unit is ultra simple to operate. Single button must be held down to take readings and thats it. There is a visual meter plus clicking noise. The scale on the meter goes 0 then .1 then .3 all the way to 100 mR/h. It doesn’t seem to be very useful at this particular point in time. The needle barely moves off the 0 when detecting something no matter what I’ve tried. Have tried it around my microwave and cellphone (hey – they’re supposed to be toxic and killing me and I’m trying to experiment and see what this thing does) and the readings are same as the house in general. Can anyone think of anything radioactive in the average persons daily life that I can scan with this and get some activity? Just want to see what happens when something of concern is detected. So, for now I’ve been using the audible clicks and they seem more useful. I stand in the back yard and hold the gieger counter on for one minute and count the clicks. Readings to date:

    06/18 30cpm
    06/19 29cpm
    06/20 31cpm
    (out of town – no readings)
    06/27 34cpm
    06/28 29cpm

    Didn’t know what to compare this to so went to radiationnetwork.com and was disappointed to see tht my readings are higher than most of those on the map. On the bright side, according to the map key,my readings aren’t in the danger level. Can anyone comment on my readings? Would you be concerned with counts in the 30’s or not? Also, what exactly an I measuring here? From my reading this would be general background radiation. Is that correct? I would like to learn how to use this thing to become a resource for family, friends and community. I know when it comes to soil and water other tests are better but many can’t afford that and finding someone to do it can be an issue. If I want to use the DX-2 to check my garden soil and pond water what would be the best way to do it and at what point do you get concerened? What soil/water readings have to be reached before it’s unwise to eat/drink it? Can anyone think of any other useful things I can do with this device? Just an idea, but it would be awesome if one of the more knowledgeable folks on this board would write “The Layman’s Guide To Using Your Geiger Counter in Our New Radioactive World”. How to test, what to test, and when to start getting concerned … Sorry the post is so long. Thanks!

    • jump-ball jump-ball

      The air filter on your car might be a surprise. Smoke detectors, dryer lint trap, mantle on gas lamp have all been mentioned.

    • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

      Thanx for your report. I bet a lot of us reading this
      found it useful. I’m not getting a counter, I guess…
      Way back in early enenews threads, the idea of scanning
      high-volume air filtration, like on big buildings, was discussed.
      Maybe you know someone that has an item used to calibrate
      medical rad equipment?

    • byron byron

      If you search on Twitter.com, tag Fukushima, guy in Tehatchipi (sp) California posts tweets sometimes. Readings first couple weeks were up around 30 cpm. Since then mostly low 20s. Given the uneven distribution of radiation, your 30s numbers sound about right.
      Anyone know what background count used to be considered normal a few nonths before Fukushima?
      Please report back the count you get on air filter on your car and furnace. Post a couple times on new threads on this site. Old threads are replaced with wonderful frequently.

    • Undertow

      You can order a Vaseline glass bead, which has a small amount of uranium in it. They are used in beaded jewelry! One online shop that ia more focused on radiation measurement that sells them is blackcatsystems.com. It’s $10 and will set your Geiger counter off into around a 1000cpm reading when at close proximity. More than around 18 inches away, nothing extra will be detected. I see Amazon also sells a sample if you search under the term uranium.

      Which brings me to the next point. When scanning something you will need to be close to it. The primary decay form of cesium and iodine is beta. Beta radiation is blocked by thin sheets of metal, and even is stopped after traveling through around 14 inches of air. Try holding your counter to the ground immediately after it rains. As others said, try your car’s air filter since it gathers a large amount of particles.

      Your readings in the 30 cpm range are no cause for concern. I’m measuring around 40 cpm on average and I see from another radiation map site that others are commonly measuring about the same. That includes places in the southern hemisphere that shouldn’t be affected at this time by Fukushima.

      But the same map does show some in Japan measuring above 70 cpm, and I think that indicates an issue. If they had their Geiger counters held to the ground to get a reading that would be even more interesting to see.

    • john lh john lh

      I found at least 5 models personal radiation monitor in Chinese market,almost the same function.

      It can setting the alarm levels manually by users, it was set to 0.5 uSv/hr, and 0.05mSv by defualt. I believe it is the “acceptable” background radiation level, and total radiation count this monitor received over the time it operated.

      over the two cities I traveled over last 2 days, it all shows the same figure 0.09-0.13 uSv/h on the ground; but on airplane,it beeps and vibration a few times,showing figure 0.5-0.9 uVs/h.

      So,those personal monitor device is mainly for give people warning to get avoid those area or spot with higher than acceptable radiation levels.

      The dealer told me now the Japanese are ordering a lots from them.I think it is true.

      All those device display has only 2 language: Japanese and English. No Chinese version display till now.

  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    I did not consider dryer lint. If it’s gotten that far, might as well enjoy whatever time we have left.

  • odiez1 odiez1

    I was searching “plutonium pit” on google and found a website which was quite interesting. The last paragraph talks about a waste disposal site in New Mexico..

    http://www.lasg.org/campaigns/PUPitProd.htm