Published: February 2nd, 2012 at 10:33 pm ET
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Title: Damage to both reactor units?
Source: The Orange County Register
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Date: Feb 2, 2012
As workers began inspecting a leaky tube in one of the San Onofre nuclear plant’s reactors Thursday, federal regulators said more than 800 tubes in a second, offline reactor showed wear and thinning, although they are less than two years old. [...]And while workers were able to begin inspecting the unit 3 reactor, which had cooled enough to allow them to enter, they had not yet been able to characterize the size or nature of the leak, he said.
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Title: SAN ONOFRE: Signs of accelerated wear spotted in Unit 2 steam generator
Source: North County Times
Date: Feb 2, 2012
A Nuclear Regulatory Commission spokesman said Thursday morning that problems with one of the newly installed steam generators at the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station extend beyond a leak in a single unit attached to the plant’s Unit 3 reactor. [...]Edison shut down its other reactor, Unit 3, at 5:31 p.m. Tuesday, saying that it suspected one of the tubes had burst. The plant has been off-line since. [...]
Inspectors were able to access the Unit 3 reactor Thursday, said Southern California Edison spokesman Gil Alexander. “We still believe we’re dealing with a single small-tube leak and we’ll know more as the tests are done,” he said. [...]
The news could be catastrophic for San Onofre, which spent $680 million to replace the plant’s four steam generators and expected them to last for decades. [...]
Dricks said Thursday afternoon that the NRC has now learned that the gas actually escaped from a vent atop the reactor’s turbine building.
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Published: February 2nd, 2012 at 10:33 pm ET
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Help me understand this folks. They have not been able to determine the size or nature of the leak,
but it definitely wasn’t dangerous to nearby residents….
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As long as local residents still move – there is no danger to them. I don’t think there is any scenario, short of a Fukushima type explosion captured on cameras, in which nuclear industry will admit radioactive leaks are a danger to people.
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Has Japan admitted that the Fuku leaks were/are a danger to the public? I must have missed that.
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I believe they have so far admitted that bananas are bad and smiling is good.
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Looks like the brackets that hold up the tubes can also be vulnerable:
“Scott Burnell, a spokesman for the NRC confirmed Friday that plants similar in design to San Onofre, which also have large steam generators, have experienced additional wear around brackets that hold up the thousands of thin metal tubes inside.”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/04/1061849/-NRC-Confirms-San-Onofre-Steam-Generator-Damage-Under-Investigation-At-Reactors-Across-The-US?via=sidebyuserrec
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Can’t be that bad! Remember the noble, company loyal worker that decided to take a swim in the pool to prove the radiation was safe?
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“News could be catastrophic for San Onofre” nuke plant in Calif. — Over 800 tubes show damage — Multiple pipes may have burst — Still can’t determine size of leak
Correction;
“News could be catastrophic for San Onofre” nuke plant in Calif. — Over 800 tubes show damage — Multiple pipes may have burst — Still WON’T ADMIT TO THE size of leak
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Alex Jones – Radiation Leak Forces San Onofre Nuclear Plant Shut Down!
Uploaded by wannaberichlikeme on Feb 2, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVrquSdzriA&feature=player_detailpage
February 2nd 2012
Alex also covers the latest news, including the mysterious decision by Canadian film director and producer James Cameron to buy a large tract of land in a remote area of New Zealand.
Other items covered today include a lawsuit brought against the government in the murder of a Border Patrol agent connected to Operation Fast and Furious and the decision to subject Super Bowl fans to deadly TSA radiation machines.
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These nuke liars are beginning to sound like they all read from the same script
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EPA “playbook” –Gulf of Mexico BP Oil Spill had a similar situation. There is really a “playbook”, wonder if FOIA could get a copy..or if someone could “leak it”..wikileak it maybe?
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Looks like I can stop worrying about Fukushima and worry about the plant 30 miles away as I live in the OC in California.
Also I heard a report today that said all nuclear plants create tritium water/steam because the water is bombarded with neutrons from the reactions during normal operations. And as tritium is hydrogen with an extra neutron it is too small to filter on an industrial level. Is there any truth to this?
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Hi Replacant, that’s true. A scientist explained it to us in a public lecture discussing tritium releases of the plant near us into our river. From what I remember the tritium replaces one of the water parts with heavy water. So if you try to filter it out, you would basically try to separate water from water – impossible!
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How Safe Is Radioactive Tritium?
Did You Know That 75% Of US Nuclear Plants Are Leaking Toxic Tritium Radiation Into Drinking Water Supply? Paul Gunter ~ Beyond Nuclear
CLICK>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo1Kqez3fUU
Are Your State’s Nuclear Power Plants Leaking Radiation? Some Say It’s A Problem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO49lK65VDo
“A typical reactor is only allowed to release about a thirtieth of a teaspoon of tritium in a whole year! A bad year is maybe a whole teaspoon of tritium. That’s how deadly this stuff is! And if that teaspoon of tritium evaporates, do you think it gets measured accurately, and properly reported? What it does get is a special dispensation from the NRC to release the extra tritium that year. If they leak tritium, which is almost always bound up as HTO, chances are pretty good it will evaporate, and never make it into the ground. We will breath it as water vapor. It will be in doses too low to measure accurately, thanks to all the tritium everyone is already dumping into our environment. (There is very little ‘natural’ tritium on earth at any one time.)”
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/07/13/san-onofre/
“The Perils of Tritium”
Tritium decays to helium-3 through beta minus decay and the release of an antineutrino particle http://www.texasradiation.org/decay.html
The antineutron is the antiparticle of the neutron with symbol n. It differs from the neutron only in that some of its properties have equal magnitude but opposite sign… Since the antineutron is electrically neutral, it cannot easily be observed directly. Instead, the products of its annihilation with ordinary matter are observed. In theory, a free antineutron should decay into an antiproton, a positron and a neutrino in a process analogous to the beta decay of free neutrons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-neutron
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Credit goes to Lucas from Enformable for being the first to write about this:
http://enformable.com/2012/02/bad-news-turns-tragically-worse-at-san-onofre-as-pipe-defects-found-in-both-units/
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Does anybody know if San Onofre is one of the plants that has been allowed to “uprate” its power output? I would imagine that would put greater wear and tear on the reactor parts.
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Looks like they are in the process of increasing their power output–but maybe it’s too recent for the problems to be attributed to this? (This story is dated Jan 5, 2012):
“San Onofre nuclear generating plant to increase power output with $280 million upgrade”
“OCEANSIDE, Calif. — A Southern California nuclear power plant will churn out more power thanks to a turbine upgrade.
The North County Times (http://bit.ly/yvtmKk ) says the San Onofre plant in northern San Diego County will replace high-pressure steam turbines with new ones that will generate 48 more megawatts of electricity — enough to power about 31,000 homes.
That will increase the plant’s output by about 2 percent.
The new turbines will be installed later this month when the plant’s Unit 2 reactor is shut down for refueling. The upgrade will cost about $280 million.”
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/5da0599b61ca4fb59ed7cc1ebedeb43e/CA–Nuclear-Plant-Upgrade/
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“San Onofre to push more power with turbine upgrades – is this safe?”
Posted on January 6, 2012 by Donna Gilmore
“The San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant has embarked on a series of upgrades that will allow the plant to increase its power output by about 2% over it’s original design. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) refers to this as a “power uprate” of the reactors.
Two new high-pressure steam turbines will replace existing ones. They will generate about 48 more megawatts of power — enough to support about 31,000 average-sized homes. The first will be installed later this month when the Unit 2 reactor is shut down for refueling….
This should bring increased profits to Southern California Edison, but will it be at the risk of our safety?
In an uprated reactor, more neutrons bombard the core, increasing stress on its steel shell. Core temperatures are higher, lengthening the time to cool it during a shutdown. Water and steam flow at higher pressures, increasing corrosion of pipes, valves and other parts.
“This trend is, in principle, detrimental to the stability characteristics of the reactor, inasmuch as it increases the probability of instability events and increases the severity of such events, if they were to occur,” the NRC Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards, which is mandated by Congress to advise the NRC, has warned.
According to the NRC, some uprated reactors have had serious safety problems….”
http://sanonofresafety.org/2012/01/06/san-onofre-to-push-more-power-with-turbine-upgrades-is-this-safe/
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Good find, Iam335. The upgrades might be unsafe, plus they cost another $280 million. Add that to the $700 million the four new generators cost and that’s over a BILLION dollars!
I thought nuclear energy was supposed to be cheap. (sarc)
That’s half of what Warren Buffet invested in a new solar farm in California!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2011/12/07/buffet-buys-big-solar-farm/
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They need to derate this crap to 0%
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Nuclear power plants release radiation into the environment during their “normal” operations.
They call it radioactive effluent.
Here are the “Radioactive Effluent” and “Environmental Reports” for San Onofre Units 2 and 3.
http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/operating/ops-experience/tritium/plant-specific-reports/sano2-3.html
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I don’t like this one bit, not one bit.
Now I have definitive proof. They’re trying to kill us off.
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Bingo!
Give the lady a cigar!!
Reckon people do not read what is posted anymore. We have shown EVERYONE plenty of times that the zionist/banksters are in fact slowly killing us ALL off. Just research POPULATION REDUCTION AGENDA.
Broke a huge story about HOT GAS products on the radiation reporting thread. Basically, tests continue to show that anything that burns gas or oil products is contaminating the air with more than just carbon wastes. There is also the radiation. Every car and heater that is burning gas is also adding to the amounts of radiation in the air.
And if folks would look at all this, and of what’s to come from the aspect of knowing the details of this ugly agenda of murdering off the human race, they would easily understand WHY all this happens like it does. MAYBE some day when the mass mind awakens to this horridity, WE might be able to stop it all. It is a race. Will humanity stop it’s own death, or ignorantly allow it?
And it is that simple really. Either all these unholy murderous mechanisms are cut off, or they will ALL be left to burn and boil away. You can bet your life this is REAL and the radiation WILL KILL YOU sooner than the normal life you thought you might have had.
Sorry if this sounds hard and condemnative, but it has been almost 12 years of DOING all one can with pen in hand to save a world that does not even care enough to save itself and the time and patients is waring thinner and thinner every day. What most people do not get is, it is almost game time and the workers of evil and false flag events never sleep.
VIGILANCE!!!
We know Fukushima was a false flag Event and who caused it. We KNOW 9/11 was a false flag Event and who did it. Is this San O thing another one about to GO OFF?
Ignorance is not bliss…it flat out kills ya!~
Now where is that wind blowing today in our wonderful world?
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Awesome. I’ve posted this on a friends fb page. He works in San Clemente. As did I. I almost worked as security for San Onofre npp. That was before Idid research. Damn
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James, did your ID get taken over by somebody else? False flag? Really?
It was a large earthquake and giant tsunami that swept thousands of people away that initiated this event.
There was no conspiracy – mother nature is much more powerful than we realize.
The problem here is that they didn’t anticipate a total loss of power to the reactors. The other problem is the entire design concept of keeping tons of spent fuel in open pools is ridiculous. The other problem is that nuclear energy is so dangerous when it fails that they can’t tell the truth.
All that is bad enough, but there is no conspiracy to kill off these people – stupidity, ineptness and criminal negligence maybe – conspiracy no…
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OOOPs. My mistake – I thought this was a thread about fuku. It’s US based nukes.
Still – no conspiracy – coverup of releases, yes, but I don’t think the nuke industry would have an “accident” on purpose – they are generally trying to be responsible – and right now – they know that every accident is another nail in the industry’s coffin (pun intented)
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Does anybody know who built and designed the new reactors? That will give some insight to the problem.
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More important, who built the two year old failing tubes? China?
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I think I read Toshiba
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But where did Toshiba make them?
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The article says the generators were manufactured by “Mitsubishi Heavy Industries,” and their representatives are at San Onofre now.
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Ok, sorry must be mitsubishi…
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Mitsubishi manufactured these cut-rate SGs. San Onofre got a heckuva deal, as these babies usually cost $200 to $400 million apiece. They got 4 for $680 million, not even used!
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Dominion in Virginia has chosen a Mitsubishi “advanced pressure water reactor” for their third nuclear reactor @ Lake Anna.
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I’m assuming the guy that built the reactor bought the tubes. The fabricator installed the tubes. Where did he buy tubes? Most clients won’t allow materials bought from China. A fellow worker told me once “the only reason we get away with this is the client is dumber than we are.”
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The contractors here-the US-specify that no material from China be used on their job. The builder may be a Korean company who agrees to the contract but has an agent in Taiwan who is buying material from China. If the people on the contractor side are not checking every Material Test Report then the material slips by. Of course this is all caused by using the lowest bidder. Bean counters driving the job. We gotta keep the cost down to get that bonus. How would you like riding an elevator knowing the vendor was the lowest bidder. The Korean company knows if the tubes fail he will get a shot at repairing the reactor. “We don’t have time to do the job right but we have time to do it over.” Everyone makes money but the public safety is at risk. The public is just another brick in the wall. Who cares we’re all making money.
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Second-hand smoke isn’t hazardous to you either…as long as you don’t live in it daily. :p
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The nuke industry is lying…they are only trying to do what any company would…avoid litigation. Image how many settlements they would have to make if they admitted there was a dangerous leak. Just doesn’t make any good sense to tell the truth.
We the people who are being intoxicated need to run out there with our counters and bring the evidence into a court of law where we can sue them…or maybe not…but we must fight this …or die younger than we might have.
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Tubes? canisters? ..inside or outside the reactors? if inside ..do they means spent fuel rods… outside.. dry cask?
venting..gas… what kind of gas?
So vague…Jaczko please explain..
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Hey…Jaczko..this is America…no need for foreign diplomacy..etc…tell us …WITHOUT telling falsehoods.
How safe is San Onofre… .?
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Do not the owners of the nuclear power industry have any conscience, and care? They need to get out of this business and start making a mint deploying suppressed technologies. Instead of maintaining transmission systems and risking the world with their reactors, they could be putting photovoltaic and storage breakthroughs on every rooftop. Then they could put the rest of their money to work on new projects. Why can’t they give up a bad thing? It’s their progeny’s genes and health at stake, too.
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How safe is San Onofre? Wouldn’t it be about as safe as Chernobyl or Fukushima? In 1986 in the Hanford, Washington area -where nuclear reactors were developed-the family of Tom Bailie had all died from cancer. He teamed with a reporter from the Spokesman Review to get answers. The radiation victims sued the US government and forced it to open its SECRET files. The radioactive releases (which had been denied) became public knowledge. Some lawsuits are still ongoing. The contamination area of 240 square miles and the cleanup after 1988 with costs at $2 Billion per year is projected out to 2052-107 YEARS from the start. Cheap electricity.
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Very nice information, Barbara Billig!
Thanks a million,…or should I say, 2 Billion?
I guess Barbara just showed us, or reminded us, that WE CAN WIN!
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How safe is San Onofre?
For those that do not know where it is located, it is beside a major freeway in Southern CA., the Interstate 5(also called the Pacific Coast Highway). The plant is so close to the freeway it is like being in the nuclear plants parking lot when you drive past it! Another major interstate freeway, the I15 is located within the 30 mile evac zone of San Onofre! One of my favorite cities is Laguna Beach which is located within the 20 mile evac zone! If the worst happens at that nuclear plant those 2 freeways would be disasterous to use. Mass evacuations would have to occur that I do not believe people are prepared for should a meltdown happen.
Is everyone driving the I5 past San Onofre breathing the plants "leakage"? How can they not? This is a very busy freeway.
A bit further north, the California 14/Interstate 5 interchange is also the site of two devastating earthquake collapses, one in 1971's Sylmar Earthquake and the other in 1994's Northridge Earthquake.
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