Published: December 17th, 2011 at 1:00 pm ET
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Translation of the Dec. 15, 2011 Nature Magazine article by former Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama and legislator Tomoyuki Taira — both members of by EX-SKF (Certain expressions may be off, as article was translated English to Japanese and then back to English) [Emphasis Added]:
[Subheading:] Possibility of Nuclear Explosion
We need to answer the question of what caused the series of explosions at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant. Initially, they were reported as hydrogen explosions [...]
[T]his is not conclusive. Other possibilities exist, and they are nuclear explosions and gas explosions other than hydrogen gas. [...]
Nuclear Explosion “More Likely”
From two observed facts, we believe a nuclear explosion is more likely.
First, several transuranic elements have been detected several tens of kilometers away from the plant.
Second, the steel trusses in the upper part of the reactor building of Reactor 3 are twisted as if they had been melted.
Curium and Plutonium
According to the reports by the Ministry of Education and Science, curium-242 (242Cm) has been detected at a location 3 kilometers from the plant, and plutonium-238 (238Pu) has been detected at a location 45 kilometers from the plant. [...]
242Cm’s half life is short (about 163 days), and the deposition of 238Pu around the plant is far greater than normal, leading the Ministry of Education and Science to conclude these were emitted from Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant.
If that’s the case, pieces of broken spent nuclear fuel rods may have been scattered around the plant, and it is extremely dangerous.
Too Forceful to be Hydrogen Explosion?
These transuranic elements are not carried by the radioactive plume like much lighter cesium or iodine.
Therefore, they must have been blown out by an extremely large force. [...]
It is unlikely that a hydrogen explosion generated a high enough temperature that would melt steel.
Black Smoke
TEPCO initially announced that there was a white smoke from Reactor 3 explosion.
However, the later investigation has revealed that the smoke was black, and a hydrogen explosion is not considered to generate such a black smoke.
Our conclusion therefore is that it [explosion of Reactor 3] may have been a nuclear explosion.
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Wow Stunning “news”
Is this not precisely what Uncle Arnie was detailing when he spoke of detonation and compared the explosion at 3 to the others?
Is it just ENEWS and its followers that are aware of such obvious points? The nuclear cloud was a pretty good hint..
Some felt it was small and what not but many of those did not really understand how large it was and did not factor in the obvious point that the vessel containment building was built like a bunker with walls like four foot thick…..
Anyhow. At least we have finally reached the milestone recently trumpeted in shutting down this thing… I also read in todays Canadian papers that Fukushima succesfully saved the spent fuel pools….. yeah except for that one a number three where the nuclear explosion blew it sky high…
I for one am entirely fed up with being spoon fed bullshit for 9 months. Its utterly reprehensible…..
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but…but…the bullshitters are steadily revealing themselves.
The emperor is butt-nekid !
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Precisely what Uncle Arnie has been saying.
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“…..and the deposition of 238Pu around the plant is far greater than normal……”
Greater than ‘normal’? WTF is THAT supposed to mean? Are they saying it is normal to have 238Pu on the ground around nuclear plants? Realy? Since when? In what concentrations?
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Don’t believe the story about the SFP’s. Only believe what you see with your own eyes. We live in an age ripe with lies, distortions and un-truths being passed off as fact. Be very carefull what you take as fact and truth.
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Excellent advice, StPaulScount. It’s complicated by the fact that what one sees with one’s own eyes has often been pre-processed by the spin machine (TEPCO webcam, for example).
Even if they offered me a tour of the plant (no thanks), I wouldn’t really know how to interpret what I saw. So… I just have to keep pecking at the crumbs that come my way. Lots of goofiness as a result, but I like to think that we are collectively getting closer to understanding the scope of the crisis. Time will tell.
Here’s my best attempt to illustrate my point: “Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?” (Chico Marx, disguised as Groucho, in the movie Duck Soup… incorrectly believed by most people to have been said by Groucho himself.)
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There might be more nuclear explosions, underground this time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1f6vbiuUt0
This could cause the whole NPP site to cave in.
In addition to the threat of a hydrovolcanic explosion, the entire contents of Daiichi collapsing is possible.
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Don’t think so.
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“TEPCO initially announced that there was a white smoke from Reactor 3 explosion.
However, the later investigation has revealed that the smoke was black”
They play the public for complete fools.
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The smoke was indeed black as the video shows, along with the straight-up vector. It was a nuclear explosion as Arnie said:
The facts Health Canada and Vancouver Coastal health are HIDING from Canucks
(Arnie Gundersen video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha7l1zWNbQU&feature=related
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TOdays Ottawa Citizen “Atomic Wasteland” is an exhaustive undertaking. However it deals with Fukushima with more utter bullshit. Worth a look though.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/atomic-wasteland/index.html
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Thanks for the link. Are you from Ottawa?
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No. I am from Vancouver Island
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Oh. You must be rather concerned about the fallout and debris coming ashore. I hope you are doing your best to take care of yourself and your loved ones. All the best.
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In my opinion, anyone who believes the explosion at #3 was anything less than nuclear is just the kind of gullible, non-thinking moron the nuclear industry just loves.
BTW Where’s our favorite, nuclear-loving atomic cheeleader jdotg been lately?
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Christmas shopping I guess
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White, black, what’s a few opposites between friends ?
I love the absurdity !
(I think I hear them laughing)
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Smiled at that.
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wow ! nonplussed! nice one nature!!
wow!
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They are intent on playing this off as the spent fuel pool exploding.
Everyone here should correct them every time. It was an impossibility that the vertical mushroom cloud of #3 came from the spent fuel pool. It was physically impossible.
Anyone who says it was is either ignorant of lying.
If they are a knowledgeable source you can be assured they are lying and covering up the fact that the MOX fuel blew sky high.
Plutonium 45km away is really scary.
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Nothing exploded !
It was “Un-scheduled venting” accompanied by “kinetic release” of “rapidly evolving pressures” !
I’m surprised they they haven’t used
“multi-phasic shield failure due to tachyon particle contamination.”
as an excuse.
Maybe they have and it’s been “lost in translation”.
Where’s the bridge crew when you really need them ?
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Maybe the ambivalent lunar wayneshaft came loose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ABKYcnR0gc&feature=related
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It did NOT “explode”! It simply experienced (cough cough)an “energetic disassembly”.
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Ah aha…HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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recipucating dinglearm?? excuse my naivitee monsiuer! i do not understand!! LOL!! …LOL!!
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No, no no! It was a malfunction of the reverse aperture grommet with the vacuum gasket, according to Bullwinkle.
(Heavy on the “bull”)
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Just when i think the level of BS coming out of Tepco has reached its limit, they claim black smoke was white smoke but now really its black smoke.
Plutonium outside the site might have been a tip off, though I am greatly disturbed by the line “…and the deposition of 238Pu around the plant is far greater than normal..” What do you mean normal 238Pu? This is the most toxic substance on the planet and it is released to the point where some outside the plant is normal?!? Beam me up Scotty!
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That’s precisely what they are trying to do.
This is the stuff that they tracked by the microgram for the past 70 years. Now they want you to think it’s normal for it to be distributed anywhere.
The entire point of this coverup is this particular issue. They blew at least several hundred pounds of weapons grade plutonium 238 out the top of the #3 nuclear reactor. They are guarding the secret with the full court press on information release because noone wants you to understand that the MOX exploded and released plutonium 238.
This is plutonium that at least in manufacturing was nanometer powder. This is type of plutonium that killed 100% of the beagle dogs that breathed it in within 3-5 years in the only mammals ever tested. Some of the dogs came down with 3, 4 or 5 kinds of cancer at once.
And this is the stuff they’ve found 45km from the plant. You can eat it and drink it and be fine, but if you breathed it in – you are dead.
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Chilling insight, James2.
I’m wrestling with the realization that until “they” acknowledge the seriousness of the situation, we’re left dependent on them to fix it, and they seem determined to bob and weave indefinitely, perhaps out of fear that “we” won’t tolerate bad news from them.
Aieee – a lose/lose scenario.
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James, do you have any links to the actual study, or health hazards of this stuff?
I will post another link to some interesting information about this deadly radioactive element below.
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AGreen,
I read “Plutonium Files” a few years ago. It has some very intersting information on plutonium and what happens when ingested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plutonium_Files
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First, I must apologize – it’s been a few months since I read it. It’s Plutonium 239 that is so dangerous if inhaled, not plutonium 238.
And the beagle dog test was on Plutonium 239. Funny now several months after I did my research, all of the sites with the test results are gone. It seems this test has been erased from the internet in the past few months.
I can find plenty of articles referring to it, and saying it was an inaccurate result, but nothing of the original study. I’ll have to do some more searching.
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hi james2
heres some options that are outside google and retain cached pages… hope this helps your search!!
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http://www.searchengineshowdown.com/others/archive.shtml
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“Eat it and drink it and be fine”, are you certain about that? Small particulate would or at least could stay in the body for quite some time. I’m not sure I want to drink any in and have it take up residence ion my kidneys. Will your body ‘mistake’ it for something else and incorporate it into itself somehow?
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From the EPA’s web-site –
“The stomach does not absorb plutonium very well, and most plutonium swallowed with food or water passes from the body through the feces. When inhaled, plutonium can remain in the lungs depending upon its particle size and how well the particular chemical form dissolves. The chemical forms that dissolve less easily may lodge in the lungs or move out with phlegm, and either be swallowed or spit out. But, the lungs may absorb chemical forms that dissolve more easily and pass them into the bloodstream.
Once in the bloodstream, plutonium moves throughout the body and into the bones, liver, or other body organs. Plutonium that reaches body organs generally stays in the body for decades and continues to expose the surrounding tissue to radiation.”
To say the stomach does not absorb very well is NOT the same as saying it does not abosorb AT ALL. The difference is of course deadly…..
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In this case holding your breath waiting for the really information to come out is actually a “legitimate” option {sardonic smile on : }
So the main reason for the cover up, other than grossly unsafe and incompetent design of the Mark 1 reactor, is Japan has a nuclear weapons program? It would hand in hand with the new reports that China has 3,000 warheads. Though a political coverup doesn’t stop radiation even this deep.
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“These transuranic elements are not carried by the radioactive plume like much lighter cesium or iodine.”
This sounds like one of those things assumed to be true, but is eventually found to be total bullshit. Haven’t we found Americium and Plutonium making its way to east coast USA?
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“Plutonium can’t travel far” is like radium bottles and bananas, pseudoscience talking points for pro-nukers.
Of course it can travel far if it’s finely milled like MOX fuel, and gets blown up into fine dust by a nuke explosion.
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Common sense. Travels even farther in aerosol form!
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Love that MOX. It’s such darling stuff.
If there wasn’t any obvious reason to stop using reprocessed fuel, there is now.
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There were multiple nuclear reactions in all 3 reactors. Sure they may just be releasing the data about reactor 3, however there is also a ton of data on the nature of the other three explosions that looked nuclear. My estimates would say each reactor shot 50% of the fuel into the air and the rest is digging at the containment. With the levels of radiation in some areas 3 times greater than Chernobyl it would make sense that all 3 reactors had nuclear fission happening during the explosions. The spent fuel pool in reactor 4 building also had a fission event. If they could get close enough to see if there are even fuel rods left in the pool we would know just how many nuclear bombs this reaction is equal to.
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Right on, Grampy.
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Hi Ya’ll
No surprise here…its always been about reactor 3.
Sometimes our eyes don’t fool us.
The MOX is misbehaving.
Maybe that crazy Fin is right, you know the one that keeps harping on H.A.R.P, mox does not shut off under certain conditions.
Anyways I got to go, some rich person needs me to pour the wine.
In the meantime, if I may leave you with a song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPLdQB-Nd9E
Our theme song….perhaps
We are shutting them off folks and we are not taking no for an answer!
Peace friends
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You mean the crazy HAARPtard/chemtard Fin who still believes there’s a Man in the Sky? THAT Fin?
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‘A THEORY ON FUKUSHIMA’ – ARTO LAURI on NUCLEAR CENSORSHIP, HAARP, & TSUNAMI UNDERWATER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htL5rPVdoKw
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I’m 17 years old and i knew this happened, it’s a shame they have to lie to us. I’m fairly certain Fukushima makes Chernobyl look like a cakewalk, then again, Chernobyl didnt have 200 kilos of plutonium in it.
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Hi mellam, I hope you find a lot of info here and don’t forget to take all written here “with a grain of salt”. Do you talk about Fuku among your friends?
I was 12 when Chernobyl exploded, and as I live in Europe we were directly affected by the fallout. Childhood ended quite abruptly.
*peace
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What I saw on the video of the Unit 3 explosion showed three detonations in rapid sequence. It’s obvious if played frame by frame. The first two were hydrogen explosions, producing white clouds in two places, the third, the dark cloud big boy. It certainly appears to be a nuclear detonation triggered by the second hydrogen explosion.
The molten core pool was no doubt stratified, and the jolt of the explosion disrupted the pool into a very violent criticality.
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Can someone let us all know just how many different elements/chemicals we are dealing with. A complete list would be nice. Not how many, but a list of them.
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The Hanford list:
Radionuclides Released to the Air from Hanford US-site (1944-1972)
Radionuclide Physical Half-Life in seconds (s), minutes (m), hours (h), days (d) or years (y) HEDR Release Estimate (in curies) (where provided by HEDR)
iodine-131 8.0 d 739,000
ruthenium-103 39.3 d 1,200
ruthenium-106 368.2 d 390
cobalt-60 5.3 y 1
zirconium-95 64.0 d 1,200
iodine-132 2.3 h 3,820
cerium-144 284.3 d 3,770
cesium-137 30.0 y 42
strontium-90 29.1 y 64
yttrium-91 58.5 d -
strontium-89 50.5 d 700
barium-140 12.7 d -
niobium-95 35.2 d -
tellurium-129m 33.6 d -
cerium-141 32.5 d -
plutonium-239 24,065 y 2
xenon-133 5.3 d 418,000
praseodymium-143 13.6 d -
lanthanum-140 40.3 h -
cesium-134 2.1 y -
neodymium-147 11 d -
plutonium-240 6,540 y -
iodine-129 15,700,000 y 46
plutonium-241 14.4 y -
antimony-125 2.8 y -
tellurium-132 78.2 h -
cesium-136 13.1 d -
promethium-148m 41.3 d -
plutonium-238 87.7 y -
promethium-147 2.6 y -
europium-154 8.8 y -
xenon-131 11.9 d -
silver-111 7.5 d -
tin-125 9.6 d -
cadmium-115m 44.6 d -
iron-59 44.5 d -
yttrium-90 64.0 h -
tellurium-125m 58 d -
europium-155 5 y -
niobium-95m 88.6 h -
neptunium-239 2.4 d -
promethium-148 5.4 d -
silver-110m 249.9 d -
krypton-85 10.7 y 18,500,000
uranium-238 4,470,000,000 y
americium-241 432.3 y -
molybdenum-99 66.0 h -
neptunium-237 2,140,000 y -
rubidium-86 18.7 d -
antimony-124 60.2 d -
cobalt-58 70.8 d -
curium-242 162.8 d -
manganese-54 312.5 d -
praseodymium-144 17.3 m -
xenon-133m 2.2 d -
tin-126 10,000 y -
iron-55 2.7 y -
tin-119m 293 d -
uranium-235 703,800,000 y -
technetium-99 213,000 y -
europium-152 13.3 y -
samarium-151 90 y -
rhodium-106 29.9 s -
uranium-236 23,400,00 y -
rhodium-103m 56.1 m -
silver 108m 127 y -
barium-137m 2.6 m -
tellurium-129 69.6 m -
promethium-149 53.1 h -
technetium-99m 6.0 h -
thorium-234 24.1 d -
plutonium-236 2.9 y -
iodine-133 20.8 h -
curium-244 18.1 y -
plutonium-242 376,000 -
cadmium-115 53…
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americium-243 7,380 y -
zinc-65 243.9 d -
cesium-132 6.5 d -
uranium-234 244,500 y -
zirconium-93 1,530,000 y -
samarium-153 46.7 h -
cesium-135 2,300,000 y -
nickel-63 96 y -
chromium-51 27.7 d -
tin-117m 13.6 d -
gadolinium-153 242 d -
tritium (H-3) 12.4 y 200,0003
carbon-14 5,730 y 554
cerium-143 33 h -
curium-243 28.5 y -
tin-121m 55 y -
cadmium-109 464 d -
antimony-122 2.7 d -
indium-115m 4.5 h -
xenon-129m 8.0 d -
niobium-94 20,300 y -
plutonium-237 45.3 d -
holmium-166m 1,230 y -
protactinium-231 32,760 y -
nickel-59 75,000 y -
xenon-127 36.4 d -
thorium-231 25.5 h -
niobium-93m 13.6 y -
gallium-72 14.1 h -
arsenic-77 38.8 h -
thorium-228 1.9 y -
bromine-82 35.3 h -
silver-110 24.6 s -
actinium-227 21.8 y -
curium-245 8,500 y -
samarium-147 106,000,000,000 y -
radon-224 3.7 d -
tin-121 27.1 h -
thulium-170 128.6 d -
thorium-230 77,000 y -
radon-220 55.6 s -
beryllium-10 1,600,000 y -
curium-246 4,730 y -
lead-212 10.6 d -
curium-241 32.8 d -
silver-108 2.4 m -
thorium-229 7,340 y -
zirconium-97 16.9 h -
copper-67 61.9 h -
krypton-81 210,000 y -
bismuth-212 60.6 m -
nickel-66 64.6 h -
arsenic-76 26.3 h -
niobium-97 72.1 m -
thorium-232 14,050,000,000 y -
radon-222 3.8 d -
thallium-208 3.1 m -
niobium-97m 60 s -
praseodymium-142 19.13 h -
radon-225 14.8 d -
indium-115 500,000,000,000,000 y -
barium-135 m 28.7 h -
thulium-171 1.9 y -
iodine-130 12.4 h -
lead-210 22.3 y -
radium-226 1,600 y -
gadolinium-152 108,000,000,000,000 y -
polonium-210 138.4 d -
radium-228 5.8 y -
krypton-79 35 h -
palladium-109 13.4 h -
uranium-240 14.1 h -
bismuth-210 5 d -
scandium-48 43.7 h -
curium-248 339,000 y -
actinium-228 6.1 h -
berkelium-249 320 d -
sodium-24 15 h -
lead-214 26.8 m -
bismuth-214 19.9 m -
xenon-135 9.1 h -
copper-64 12.7 h -
californium-249 350.6 y -
calcium-47 4.5 d -
strontium-91 9.5 h -
yttrium-91m 49.7 m -
magnesium-28 20.9 h -
aluminum-28 2.2 m -
europium-152m 9.3 h…
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This was also on the list at the end:
argon-41 1.83 h 9,000,0005
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you rock, anne.
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The website I quoted fromis by someone who used to post on this blog. I think his moniker might have been BetaFlare. Whoopie posted a tweet which gave this website also on scribed.
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So what do all of these numbers mean?
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Radionuclides Released to the Air from Hanford US-site (1944-1972)
Radionuclide Physical Half-Life in seconds (s), minutes (m), hours (h), days (d) or years (y) HEDR Release Estimate (in curies) (where provided by HEDR)
http://preparator.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/japan-tsunami-reactor-gallery/
Hanford Environmental Dose Reconstruction (HEDR) Project (most portions completed, 1995)
A large part of the dose reconstruction work is complete. The HEDR Project found that Hanford released more than 200 different kinds of radioactive elements (radionuclides). However, the study concluded that only some of these are likely to have had an effect on people. The HEDR Project calculated dose estimates for representative (typical) individuals and published summary results in April 1994.
For Hanford’s releases into the air, the HEDR Project concluded that more than 98 percent of the radiation doses that most people outside Hanford’s boundaries received came from iodine-131. Almost all the iodine-131 releases to the air occurred from December 26, 1944 through the end of 1957. The most important exposure pathway for iodine-131 was milk from cows and goats that fed on pasture downwind of Hanford. In the study’s representative dose estimates, the highest radiation doses were to children who lived closest to Hanford between 1944 and 1951, and who drank milk from local cows fed on fresh pasture. The study also calculated cumulative representative doses for five other radionuclides released to the air. These are cerium-144, ruthenium-103, ruthenium-106, strontium-90 and plutonium-239.
http://doh.wa.gov/ehp/hanford/resources/studies.html
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The Release of Radioactive Materials from Hanford: 1944-1972
TABLE I
HEDR Estimates of Radiation Released
into the Air by Hanford, 1944-1972 Radionuclide Amount Released (curies)7 Half-Life Iodine-131 740,000 8 days Tritium (H-3) 200,000 12 years Cobalt-60 1 5 years Krypton-85 19,000,000 11 years Strontium-89 700 50 days Strontium-90 64 29 years Zirconium-95 1,200 64 days Ruthenium-103 1,200 39 days Ruthenium-106 390 370 days Iodine-129 46 16 million years Tellurium-132 4,000 78 hours Xenon-133 420,000 5 days Cesium-137 42 30 years Cerium-144 3,800 284 days Plutonium-239 1.8 24,000 years
TABLE II
HEDR Estimates of Radiation Released
into the Columbia River by Hanford, 1944-1971 Radionuclide Amount Released (curies)11 half-life Sodium-24 13,000,000 15 hours Phosphorus-32 230,000 14 days Scandium-46 120,000 84 days Chromium-51 7,200,000 28 days Manganese-56 80,000,000
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Zinc-65 490,000 245 days Gallium-72 3,700,000 14 hours Arsenic-76 2,500,00 26 hours Yttrium-90 450,000 64 hours Iodine-131 48,000 8 days Neptunium-239 6,300,000 2.4 days
http://doh.wa.gov/ehp/hanford/publications/history/release.html
Hanford History and Information about Releases of Radioactive Materials into the Environment: 1944-1972
http://doh.wa.gov/ehp/hanford/publications/history/index.html
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slow death
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In any nuke plant ‘accident’, at least these substances should be studied, published. Why is it not done? Because there are no accidents…:
Be7, Au198, Au199, Mn54, Co60, Fe59, Ag109, Nb95, Nb95m, Sr89, Sr90, Y90, Y91, Pb103, U239, U240, Am241, Cm242, Zr95, Rh106-Ru106, Ce144-Pr144, I-130, I-132, I133, I135, Na24 and Tb161.’ Raskaammat radioaktiiviset metallit: Americium-243/241, Plutonium-244/240/239/238 ja Uranium-235/234 (active 10 – 6500 yrs). Most common fallout contaminants are carbon-14, cesium-137, zirconium-94, ruthenium-106, strontium-90, cerium-144, iodine-131.
http://preparator.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/japan-tsunami-reactor-gallery/
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Is there a reason why my list off the internet is awaiting moderation?
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That’s why the reply is there, thank you for your assistance anne.
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Admin took off the “waiting moderation.” Usually it shows up if you have more than 10 links. It was on the first Hanford List post. Every time my computer is a little bit slow I’m afraid I’m getting hacked. I thought at first maybe there is a filter for something on that list or some combination.
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Source:Long half life radioactive elements by A Green Road
http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/3047473
Out of all of the long life radioactive elements, this one is probably the worst in terms of how long it will be around, and the hazard it poses to human health.. Maybe that is why this is hush hush.
9. Uranium-238 ~ 40.468 BILLION years (4.4 BILLION years X 10) Around 99.284% of natural uranium is uranium-238, which has a half-life of 4.468 billion years).[1] Depleted uranium has an even higher concentration of the 238U isotope, and even low-enriched uranium, while having a higher proportion of the uranium-235 isotope, is still mostly 238U. Reprocessed uranium is also mainly 238U, with about as much uranium-235 as natural uranium, a comparable proportion of uranium-236, and much smaller amounts of other isotopes of uranium such as uranium-234, uranium-233, and uranium-232.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium-238
We are shooting this depleted uranium off all over the world, including inside the US, as if it were candy canes and fireworks; while the consequences will be with us for BILLIONS Of years.
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These are just a few of the gifts of a nuclear meltdown… Does anyone have any other ‘gifts’ to add to this list? Because a half life only counts a fraction of the total amount of time that a nuclear element is dangerous, one has to multiply the half life by 10 to 20 to get the true length of time that these elements are dangerous.. Calculations have been done below..
Iodine 129 300 million years (15.7 million years* half life x 20)
Iodine131 – 80 days (8 days ½ life x 10)
Cesium 134 – 200 years (2 years ½ life x 10)
Caesium 135 – 23 million years (2.3 million years x 10)
Cesium 137 – 300 years (30 year ½ life x 10)
Plutonium 239 – 480,000 years (24,200 years 1/2 life x 20)
Ruthenium 103 ~ 390 days (39 days 1/2 life x 10)
Ruthenium 106 ~ 3 years (374 days 1/2 life x 10)
Strontium 90 ~ 280.85 years (28 Years 1/2 life x 10)[Strontium-90 is a product of nuclear fission and is found in large amounts in spent nuclear fuel and in radioactive waste from nuclear reactors. It is often attracted to bone, and is one of the causes of leukemia.
Uranium 234 ~ 2460,000 years (246,000 years 1/2 life x 10)
Uranium 235 ~ 7030.8 million years (703 million years 1/2 life x 10)
Uranium 238 ~ 40.468 billion years(4.4 Billion years 1/2 life x 10)
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Plutonium Human Health Effects:
http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/r?dbs+hsdb:@term+@na+@rel+plutonium,+radioactive
PLUTONIUM, RADIOACTIVE
CASRN: NO CAS RN
“This record contains information specific for compounds containing plutonium and plutonium in the zero valence state; all plutonium nuclides are radioactive.
Human Health Effects:
Evidence for Carcinogenicity:
There is sufficient evidence in humans that inhalation of plutonium-239 aerosols causes lung cancer, liver cancer and bone sarcoma. Exposure to plutonium-239 also entails exposure to plutonium-240 and other isotopes. /Plutonium-239/
[IARC. Monographs on the Evaluation of the Carcinogenic Risk of Chemicals to Man. Geneva: World Health Organization, International Agency for Research on Cancer, 1972-PRESENT. (Multivolume work). Available at: http://monographs.iarc.fr/index.php p. V78 478 (2001)] **PEER REVIEWED**
There is sufficient evidence in experimental animals for the carcinogenicity of mixed alpha-particle emitters (radium-224, radium-226, thorium-227, thorium-228, thorium-230, thorium-232, neptunium-237, plutonium-238, plutonium-239 (together with plutonium-240), americium-241, curium-244, californium-249 and californium-252). /Mixed-alpha particle emitters/
[IARC. Monographs on the Evaluation of the Carcinogenic Risk of Chemicals to Man. Geneva: World Health Organization, International Agency for Research on Cancer, 1972-PRESENT. (Multivolume work). Available at: http://monographs.iarc.fr/index.php p. V78 478 (2001)] **PEER REVIEWED** ”
See link for the rest of the story…
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AGreenRoad your great, thank you for your time. Are there any more elements they aren’t talking about?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fission_products
It might be a little confusing at first, but the chart is here is the stuff that has a half-life of 10 years or more. The list of quickies is rather long.
This one is more basic and covers everything, though some are not involved with power production because they don’t exist in the daughter chain. Which ones are produced depends on the core. Detection of some is easier than others, and the hard ones are seldom tested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fission_products_(by_element)
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Doing a little research you know what I found out? That some of the Uranium turns into Paladium in the fuel rods. And now we know why they don’t want to bury the thing. They have dollar signs blinding their common sense. Paladium is more valuable than Platinum. Can you believe they want to salvage the Paladium out of this wreckage? That possiblity is worthy of its own thread.
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This Paladium would be not a raw material but nuclear waste.
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“Curium and plutonium outside Fukushima plant indicate nuclear explosion at Reactor No. 3 — Broken spent nuclear fuel rods may have been scattered”
uuuh, yes we know. We read these headlines last April. We watched the workers comb the land looking for plutonium.
I think I know why they keep releasing these same news articles over and over again. One and naturally, to keep the sheep herded but two, so no one questions what happened to the previous workers that were looking for these same scattered pieces….
Next week there will be a $100hr job in the news seeking workers to go find this newly discovered Curium and plutonium. In three months from now these same headlines will surface again as all the workers die off…
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6. Palladium 107 – 65 million years (6.5 million years x 10) “Palladium-107 is the second longest lived radioactive element. It undergoes pure beta decay to Ag-107.”
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palladium-107#Palladium-107
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Well scientifically we can’t prove it from the video footage but we can hypothesis that it was certainly not the same sort of explosion as unit one. Unit one seems to show trademarks of a Hydrogen explosion, Unit three shows more trademarks of a more volatile explosive substance eg C4.
There is not sufficient evidence as far as we know for Tepco to announce it as a Hydrogen explosion.
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This list is getting longer. Let me know if I’m mistaken, no reason to not be truthfull.
radium-22, radium-226, thorium-227, thorium-228, thorium-230, thorium-232, neptunium-237, plutonium-238, plutonium-239, plutonium-240, americium-241, curium-244, californium-249, californium-252, iodine 129, iodine131, cesium 134 caesium 135, cesium 137, ruthenium 103, ruthenium 106, strontium 90, uranium 234, uranium 235, uranium 238, palladium 107
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there is argentum-110m in the squid! according to the chinese report in august!! and argentum came down as fallout and polluted spiders i believe! not sure of the specific silver isotope though
add also gaseous hexaflouride! various types!
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oh and radon
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Very little has changed since Chernobyl blew up and radiated everyone, except that many more nuclear accidents, meltdowns, melt throughs and ‘accidental’ radiation releases happened, plus way more radioactive substances are now in the air, on the ground and in the ocean as well as inside all of us.
How many radioactive elements and isotopes are released from something like Fukushima, some of which eventually end up inside all of us?
According to Asahi: about 1,000 kinds of radioactive materials have been released from Fukushima reactors. http://enenews.com/asahi-sources-reveal-about-1000-kinds-of-radioactive-materials-released-from-fukushima/comment-page-1#comment-195658
Let’s focus on just 93 out of the 1,000 total, shall we? There are 93 different long lived radioactive elements that hang around and pollute both the environment and us for at least 17,000 years and up to BILLIONS of years in total decay life. Want to see the list of all 93?
http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/3069680
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Hello my Dear, dear, friends! ::-)
I am alive,….although , “the road”, gave me quite a few hot particles to try to deal with,….and I suffered a G.I. bleed on 11/30 that requires surgery this coming Tues. Blah, blah, blah,…now, onto Fuku,….this is so much more real than I think even ‘we’ thought six weeks ago when I fell off the face of the earth,…..so INCREDIBLY ‘ELE’,…yet no one tells the truth still!
I have prayed for you all,…to feel my care and love, Yes? Yes!
Jilly
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I hope everything goes well for you!
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wellcome back stilljill
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Welcome back StillJill! Stick around for a while!
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Glad to see you back and get yourself better StillJill. We need to stay the course as the shit keeps hitting the Fuku Fan.
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Yup!
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StillJill, good to see you!!
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Hi StillJill, we were all worried about you…so glad you are back!
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@StillJill…It wonderful to hear from you.Heart is still here slinging it….take good care…
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PS…typos and all…. absolutely great to hear from you….
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Hey StillJill! Good to see you again! Mak’n us worry girl! when you go disappearing on us! I am sending you healing vibrations your way for a speedy recovery from your surgery and everything else. (( ))
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Thank you friends!
I’ll take your ‘well wishes’ any day!
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HI Still Jill! Glad you are back. Good luck on Tues.
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Maybe we should list the isotopes NOT in #3,….to get to the end of the list faster, eh?
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Have been thinking about you, StillJill, so happy to see you back! Fingers and toes crossed for Tuesday. You are absolutely right about the isotopes.
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Long half life radioactive elements
Part I http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/3047473 Elements 1-9
Part II http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/3048444 Elements 10-13
It is interesting that Wikipedia claims that there are ONLY 7 long lived nuclear elements.
So far, without looking very hard, I have found 13. They hide them and make it purposely confusing to put this all together, but all of the information is out there, if one looks.
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Is Bullshit an isotope???
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Probably if you treat it right.
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Yes goathead it is. The last time I was wheeled into an emergency room on a stretcher, I was asked the question, “Are you allergic to anything”? I said, “Yes, liars!” ::-)
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Thank you sooo much anne, and I don’t know you StillJill but good luck and get well soon. This list should have been published, by someone, so we could have at least a slim chance.
We are all here for a reason!
Let us be kind, one to another, for we are each of us together in our pain!
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FIRST thing everybody should know about radiation:
Even low-dose radiation is dangerous. Take time and watch it!
http://youtu.be/ywKv0dj3UuY
SECOND thing:
Measuring background radiation is useless. What’s really threatening your health are inhaled or ingested particles, that are not indicated by background radiation measurements. Take time and watch it!
http://youtu.be/srcM-uyBODo
THIRD thing:
First thing that happens after a nuclear accident is covering the truth. Take time and read at least “7.7. What Is the Total Number of Chernobyl Victims?” (p. 209)!
http://www.strahlentelex.de/Yablokov%20Chernobyl%20book.pdf
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Exactly.
The most dangerous thing that has come out of Fukushima is the Pu239 that shot out of the Mox explosion.
If you eat it, or drink it, your chances of passing it through your body are actually pretty good.
If you breath it in much of any quantity, however, you will die. It’s that simple.
Something else to consider. It’s half life is 240,000 years. That means some of that Pu239 that fell out of the sky on March 14th – will be still circulating on earth for the next 2.4 million years.
It also means that anyone who dies from it, will be passing it on to the next generation – ashes to ashes, dust to dust – a single particle of plutonium could kill someone for the NEXT 120,000 GENERATIONS of man.
It doesn’t go away. If people go from Japan to China to get medical treatment, then they die – the plutonium is still in their body. If they are cremated, the plutonium goes back into the air – ready to be breathed by someone else.
MOX is truly the gift that keeps on giving.
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The gift that keeps giving a gift of death, direct to you from FUKU.
Now list the long list of radioactive fallout and ‘releases’ from all nuclear power plants, even operating safely and normally.
Every nuclear power plant releases radioactive elements on a regular basis, during ‘normal’ operations. Radioactive Tritium gas is one of their regular venting things that they gift everyone with..
It is absorbed 100 percent by the human body. I wonder what it turns into?
It is kind of like alchemy in reverse. Alchemists tried to turn lead into gold.
Nuclear ‘experts’ invented and created a whole smorgasbord of nuclear radioactive elements that transmute through all kinds of harmful, deadly, disease and cancer causing elements that end up with lead, which is also deadly and dangerous, even if it is NOT radioactive. Welcome to the dark side…
I wonder if there is a light side of this that could be harnessed for good and transmuting dangerous radioactive elements into positive things like rainbows?
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You folks are awsome, I agree 100%, NO NUKES. I worked at a nuke plant in the 80′s, now I’m a tumorgrower. 1 on pancreas (rare 65th in world), 1 on kidney, liver and R lung all removed with various surgical procedure. Now another is in my L lung and growing quickly. Keep this campain going against any and all nuclear devices. You know whats up, few do!!!
Michael
Let us be kind, one to another, for we are each of us together in our pain!
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Have you tried any natural anti C remedies?
There are many to choose from around the world.
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Michael, all the best for you!!
No nukes
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Yes and there are trials going on I think at Cambridge with some open sourced research. Nano-particles that turn off the growth switch in the tumor itself. I watched a TED TALK a couple weeks ago. Look up TED TALK and cancer research. “AGreenRoad” mentions a good alternative as well. Mega intravenous vitamin C has shown promise as well.
You must be like Superman Michael! That is a lot of treatment to endure.
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Michael, in case you didn’t see it yet, anne follows quite a strict food regime after her cancer treatment and seems to be very successful with it. Just have a look at the “How to combat radiation and its effects” – maybe some useful tips there for you?
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Yes Michael,….I will add you to my prayers friend,….I have C all over also,…Steve Job’s rare pancreatic C too, etc,…liver is
TOAST. Have ‘hot totties’ all over my body as we speak, facing surgery in 36 hours again,….this is real.
Since getting back with you ANGEL’S last night,….my pain has lessened almost 100 fold, both physically and emotionally (spiritually). There is the power of LOVE,….indeed, we are all together in this pain,….some are just closer to the endpoint.
It’s a WHOLE LOT easier to face when you are surrounded by truthtellers who love you!
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For those of you who are suffering through cancer, I wish you all the best.
I’m happy to see you come here to contribute, however I think it might be best for you and your health to be doing something different with your time right now. Things can be a bit depressing here, and you probably need a bit different mental state to be able to fight your hardest.
I hope all goes very well for you. James
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You are in my prayers also. Next month, is my d day for the C. James you are leaning tword the correct path but for me information is all I have. Since latching onto the enenews site I’m feeling better. Knowing nothing is difficult to deal with and guessing has caused me more problems than I can count. Knowledge can be depressing but so is stupidity as our friends in Japan are showing. My pain is somewhat controlled with morphine and having a very large family of support is tremendous help. Thank all of you for your well spent time.
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http://feastandfamine.blogspot.com/2011/03/radiation-remedies.html
It’s an update on Fukushima as of two days ago and about cancer remedies.
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http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation
xdrfox
January 28, 2012
Hi, NW,
put in this pocket !
FORUM: Methods for combating radiation and its effects
http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation
There are other sites out there.. Do not give up hope..
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We love ya Jill and we’ll be praying!
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I knew you would be,…many moons,…and many others! Again,….that spirit is sustaining me, to be sure! ::-)
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Hey hey SJ…GREAT to see you yeah!
Now…where is missing reactor 3 again?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZBYQ5opMLs
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