Published: December 23rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm ET
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Gov’t starring in own show to bring Fukushima nuclear crisis ‘under control’, Mainichi Daily News, Dec. 23, 2011 [Emphasis Added]:
[...] The latest announcement that the goals of the road map have been achieved is merely the result of officials lowering their own hurdles. It reminds me of the time during World War II when the Imperial Japanese Army headquarters called the Japanese army’s retreat a “shift in position.” [...]
In a news conference on Dec. 16, TEPCO President Toshio Nishizawa called the completion of the road map for bringing the crisis under control a “milestone,” but a “milestone” achieved merely by lowering one’s own targets is meaningless. [...]
Lowered Target, Example A
One of the goals that TEPCO initially announced for step 2 was filling the reactor containment vessels with water. However, the utility abandoned this plan after it emerged that there were holes in the containment vessels. Eventually, officials decided to delay such measures for five years or more.
Lowered Target, Example B
The company also established a goal under step 2 of “dealing with and reducing the amount of radioactive water” on the site, but when the road map was rewritten, it was decided that there would “ongoing treatment” of contaminated water after the completion of other processes.
Published: December 23rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm ET
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The point everyone should get here is that TEPCO never wanted to do anything in the first place to fix the problem. A nuclear event is one that needs to be controlled very quickly in order to prevent catastrophe. TEPCO did not do any of these steps that had been proven in Chernobyl. Instead they opted to go with a theoretical model to control a nuclear disaster at a plant located on the sea. The plan was to flush the reactors with water and hope that they can continue until they have a permanent setup of flowing water in hopes that it cools the fuel. This approach has a few downsides. Possible China Syndrome and massive oceanic contamination from thousands of tons of nuclear Mox fuel seeping out of the building. The other possibility would be a sustained amount of water and boron blasting with nitrogen. The problem is that they don’t even know if these two measures reached the cores to prevent “melt out”. Melt out already happened in all 3 reactors. The response has been pitiful and dangerously misleading. Releasing this much radiation at once has never been done in human history yet these industry clowns claim there is “Cold Shutdown”. The blood of innocents is already being spilled and TEPCO is trying to wash their hands with strontium 90.
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> = ~*~ CRITICALLY ACCURATE ANALYSIS ~*~ = <
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The water is almost boiling in Japan, and the frogs just start crying, very “bravo and disciplined” slavery Japanese society.
Your Analysis is correct, and almost every one on this forum realized that it will develop like this in the very beginning of 3.11.
The fact is very sad and hopeless.
They must have not only experts ,but workers and stuffs in TEPCO and Government, know this consequence of this 3.11 disaster from the Day ONE.
I do not believe that people like us has more common sense and knowledge than people in Nuke industry.
If we know and believe, they must know and know more than us.
It is too late and meaningless to condemn their elite leaders’ evil and criminal actions at this moment.
We need just to help and care the Japanese people, provide with them the information, showing our care and love, wake them up from the living dead mind-set individually.
Their cheerleaders in Japan is the same guys as their Army Generals during WW2, they not only call retreat as “shift of position”, but before that they fly the kites in air to stop B-29; now they already said to setup tents and concrete wall to cover the crippled reactors;
Now the declared the” Shift of Position”in this reactors, what is the next step they will doing:
They will encourage the japanes to kill their childern and women, old and sick first,and then commit suicide.
Go to find and read this terrible stories in Japanese history,and read what his parent said by that Bravo Japanese man on Fukushima Dairy after he discussed that he will leave Japan.
They are same bastard as 60 years back,their elite and society leaders.
There is no modernization in Japan ,democracy and civilization in Japan is an totally failure in this case.
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It’s too bad the people of the world who are super rich, can’t spend their time and money in actions to improve life.
It’s too bad they can’t build up treasures in Heaven, and use their wealth for good, rather than evil.
It’s too bad a tiny number of Satan worshippers command so much wealth, and trample the lives of nearly all the people of the world.
It’s too bad the owners of nuclear power won’t just throw the towel in, and put their resources behind free energy sources.
They have enough money to ‘survive’ even if they did that.
Too bad the world can’t be revolutionized by nickel-hydrogen cold fusion, or radiowave water splitting, or any of a hundred other alternative means which involve no nuclear power, no coal, no petroleum even.
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Your Words The Truth…
Truth Is The Most Painful Crucible For The Human Heart.
I have Felt Your Words All My Life. Thank You –
We Must All Offer Love And Compassion To The Japanese People – As Their Plight And Suffering Is Especially Dramatic And Needless; Painfully Magnified By The Endearing And Valuable Potential Of Japanese Spirit.
Now Our World Suffers More – Praying Helps But Now We All Must Do Something.
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My feeling is that TEPCO did this to make the Government happy with giving them trillions of Yen to continue to “clean up” their Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster!
This is all about public perception, not safety!
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First we heard a meltdown was a worst case scenario. Then we heard an explosion was a worst case scenario. Then we heard a fire or explosion in the spent fuel pool was a worst case scenario. Then we heard a loss of reactor containment was a worst case scenario. Then we heard having the core(s) leave the containment and hit the water table was the worst case scenario.
So far, all but the last “worst case scenario” has happened, on many fronts.
Let’s face it, can it get much worse than it already has?
This is really telling ….
“One of the goals that TEPCO initially announced for step 2 was filling the reactor containment vessels with water. However, the utility abandoned this plan after it emerged that there were holes in the containment vessels. Eventually, officials decided to delay such measures for five years or more.”
WTH ????? Unbelievable. I hope TEPCO put out more feelers for help from the international community than just a news release to NHK TV.
The question is: is there anything else that can be done, at this late stage in the game?
It doesn’t give me a lot of peace of mind knowing Arnie G. is now in the camp that thinks the fuel may burn through containment and hit the groundwater ….
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“Bringing the situation under control was possible because this happened in Japan; overseas it would have been impossible.”
This implies that foreign journalists have made assumptions based on what they know from their own country, and that anything the foreign journalists report is not applicable to Fukushima.
But who is buying it?
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I hope it doesn’t mean something like “only in Japan could we get away with declaring a cold shutdown”.
The recent government spin is absolutely giddy – I almost forget to congratulate Mainichi for pushing back. That’s a good thing in the present bizarre climate.
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People Must Individually Incite Justice Through Collective Motivation – Assertively Demanding Action Take Place Resolving Short Term Issues Installing Morally Sufficient Representatives And Honestly Embracing Truthful Dissemination Accurate Information.
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We have Samurai Spirit
and Honourable Code !
(accidents happen
but whocouldaknowed ?)
Stand together ! Pay taxes !
Eat mutant produce !
Never mind metastasis
Or primary tumor
Watch your kids’ growth rate reduce
And stay in good humor.
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unbelievable. to pretend that the destroyed reactors at fukushima dai-ichi can be magically repaired and that there is some accurate roadmap to be adhered to absolutely defies commonsense.
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Assuming that a people whose mental fortitude had been compromised by the shear devastation of the earthquake and tsunami can overcome even a more catastrophic event that the 3 to 4, maybe more, nuclear meltdowns and explosions have caused, is a bit unrealistic inmho. Instead, a world fire department should have been dispatched within 1 hour of the earthquake. Since everyone wants to be a hero, there must be an authority in place to stop all the unqualified volunteers.
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send in the AxMen, Ice Road Truckers, Sons of Guns, MythBusters, and Big Shrimpers. They’ve apparently got “ties to investors” and lots of time on their hands. cannot believe these Super Really Awesome Tattooed Americans are Smart shows coming out right now.
never mind- they’d just wanna “nuke it”.
have been intermittently exposed to cable TV in the last 6 months. (has anyone noticed the incredibly creepy Old Navy GrammaBot? you know, where all the Old Navy sweaters come from?…!!! why don’t we borrow her from the Chinese sweatshops? maybe she could help Yoshimi Battle the Pink Robots).
Yeeech. Gruß vom Krampus.
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hbjon–BRILLIANT-”there must be an authority in place to stop all the unqualified volunteers.” That simple line of IMPACT should be brought to someone’s attention in TPTB, imho. A World fire department dispatched within the hour,…….that idea could really get some traction.
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TY, just trying to make a difference.
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National Sovereignty be damned in a ‘potential ELE’! Can’t ‘we’ at least call IT that?
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This by itself is not an ELE, but we can see the ELE from here.
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I hear ya on seeing/calling it.. but when national sovereignty is damned, so will we be.
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I wonder what kind of radiation levels are in the ‘decontaminated’ water, and what types of radiation is still in the water? Who is monitoring what is being dumped, burned, buried, sprayed on forest, or being used as landfill in Tokyo Bay?
No data I bet on this important subject.
I heard previously that there was so much water with radiation being stored on site in huge tanks, that they were running out of room.
Could this just be a ploy to just dump everything in the ocean, instead of storing it?
There is way too much radioactive water to deal with, and I think they are getting overwhelmed. With no changes, this is going to keep happening for YEARS, maybe centuries.
They are only months into this, and already overwhelmed.
Maybe they should have a radioactive fire sale, 2 Million B
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Feed and bleed…that’s basically been the desperate fireman’s strategy since day 1. It Is doomed to failure. The lies continue from world leaders who are pawns of the nuclear mafia cabal. The nuke pukes have one thing in common with the sheeple…. They are not immune to the radiation. True their food and drink situation is far superior than the sheeple. A true Kodak moment for that advance knowledge. But they can’t replace the air they breathe.
I seriously think On the Beach is a distinct possibility in 2012. Predictions like Arnie’s 1 million cancer deaths may be so lowball that it will lull even Enewsers. Not me…I am anticipating this snowball down the mountain to become a juggernaut. Time will tell.
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Sickputer
It is good to see you posting. I’ve missed your comments.
How can you be so certain of that scenario?
I believe that Japan is terribly contaminated (get out now!) but I am uncertain about elsewhere.
How much total fallout outside of Japan?
I put some data together from studies that show northern Japan has been terribly contaminated but I am not sure how bad the fallout has been in other areas.
http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/fallout.html
The ocean is terribly impacted. Radiation will end up in our food and precipitation through the ocean.
But will it be bad enough to cause truly massive numbers of losses?
How can we know when every bit of evidence seems so uncertain?
How bad was the fallout during atmospheric testing in the 50s and 60s? Was it as bad as this or worse?
I feel as if I’m living in a terrible “funhouse” where all the mirrors are distorted and there is no escape, yet the threats are so warped that it is hard to gauge risk.
How much radiation is actually being released?
How unusual are these beta and gamma levels that are still reported in a few states and cities?
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The stress of all that wondering is a good reason to buy a geiger counter. At least you can bring your food home and check it. You can check restaurant takeout too. And your car filters, your house dustballs, the effect of a good HEPA filter on background readings. Just how bad that banana really is, stuff like that, which brings down the stress level cause it puts some power back in your hands.
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Pray tell, how to select and purchase a good meter.
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50X Chernobyl in that 1 reactor? Ugh. I sure hope Alex doesn’t have his facts correct on this one.
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Reactor Three Releasing Radiological Contamination Higher Concentrations Thousands Time Magnitude Exceeding Chernobyl.
Reactor 3 – Mox Plutonium Reactor.
The Facts Are Entirely Correct.
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200X was the estimate I read somewhere. Enformable? Don’t remember.
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More like 100 times Chernobyl.
Why do I think it is global impacting? Because the Frankenstein eggheads have known for decades a disaster at a multiplex plant would encompass the Northern hemisphere.
The MOX fuel, the massive SFRs burning… the 2,000 bomb tests may be equivalent in radiation of some of the isotopes to this single event, but this event is playing out in a year while the bombs dispersed over 50 years.
The real thing to watch for is abandonment of the plant…if it drives the limited numbers of humans away who are doing their barebones mitigation efforts… Then a new phase begins. They should be trying to do everything possible to secure Daiini because Daiichi is a lost cause. Just wait until the plastic pipes freeze and things will get ugly fast.
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Sickputer. You are right, it is more than 100 times worse. In the following 15 years accd to the Bible
One third of the world population will die. And many more people will have Serious Fatigue, nervous system issues. On the Beach movie may become reality. it is possible some psychopath will unleash a flu or plague to hide effects of radiation and then most people will be doomed.
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Any one else get the feeling that when they say they have attained ‘cold shutdown’ they might actualy be talking about the human race?
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I’m still trying to decide if the situation was so fucked up immediately that they had no choice but to lie, and continue doing so to this day. What would the effect be had all central governments come out and said, ‘that’s it folks, a great, great, great, many of us are now going to die off and there is nothing we can do about it.’ At least this way, there is a huge, almost overwhelming number of totaly clueless people that will not know what hit them untill it’s way the hell too late.
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I hope you all will consider posting your comment on HP:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/16/japan-nuclear-crisis-cold-shutdown_n_1152889.html
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Why does TEPCO and the Japanese Gov’t want to declare it’s Fukushima disaster Stable and more importantly, what do they hope to accomplish by doing it now?
A. If the people “swallow” this Nuclear Baloney (NB) then TEPCO and their other Gov’t Leaders get to keep their jobs and march onward toward a nuclear future while the Nuclear refugees are “encouraged” to return to their Fukushima homes; letting history be the judge of whether or not this was the RIGHT decision.
B. The people of Japan reject the concept of a “cold shut down” in which case TEPCO, in time, gets nationalized and Japan develops a 20 year plan to replace it’s reactors with solar of all flavors!
C. The people of Japan are insulted by what TEPCO and their Gov’t is saying and take to the streets to DEMAND immediate change. TEPCO and their Government overseers are both swept away in order to placate the people of Japan. The Nuclear Refugees get settlements and the area around Fukushima is closed to all but scientific personal for the foreseeable future. Japan’s PM pledges to “race” Germany toward New Japanese developed Solar and being Nuclear within FIVE years…
The Japanese people are now at a cross roads that will define both their future,their children’s future and possibly the future of Nuclear Power on Earth!
What will they now do:
…Bow to TEPCO?
…Accept their Leaders vow to do better?
…Or Demand much less Nuclear ASAP?
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(NB) Love it CaptD,…Nuclear Baloney! Whoopie often speaks quite highly of you,…over there are Fluffpost,…towing the line,…
Thanks for the NB,….I’ll steal that one for sure. (We ALL know what goes into the Baloney, right?)
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at Fluffpost
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Does anyone wonder why there are no radiation meters on the 700 foot tall ‘vent’ stacks?
Did you ever notice that Fukushima monitoring stations are all upwind, but there are NONE downwind? What is coming out of them anyway?
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/index-e.html
I just checked, and many months after the disaster, there are still NO RADIATION METERS downwind of the plant.
Of course, since almost all of the time the wind blows out over the ocean, there is no radiation to report. Bingo, no problems.
Everything is safe, and no dangerous radiation is measured, even after MULTIPLE massive explosions and all kinds of things burning, blowing up, neutron rays, green glowing things, fires, etc.
You would think they could install at least ONE radiation meter downwind, but then again, they might not like what they measure as much… and the public might not like to see what is coming out of Fukushima.
Is the type of ‘measuring’ that NISA, TEPCO and the Japanese goverment is claiming to do around the plant even considered scientific? I cannot believe the world is even listening to these Bu(#*@)) radiation readings being put out, by a half circle of meters put upwind of all radiation being released.
It does not suprise me one bit that no one can figure out how much radiation is being released from FUKU.
Isn’t this kind of like trying to measure the amount of water coming out of a fire hose, by standing a couple of blocks away and hold up a water meter in the air, and feeling a little of the dew from the high pressure water from a couple blocks away?
Duhhhhh, no water here… there must not be any fire. Anyone saying anything different is just fear mongering!
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Compelling Evidence: Quakes Caused By Nuke Plants
“Finnish scientist describing the Fukushima theory…. large holes underneath the plant IMPACTED by the blasts, which occurred after the large 9.0 earthquake, which itself was caused by the use of HAARP to remove PREVIOUS radioactive ionizing radiation from the air, strip electrons, and have them drawn into the ground via HAARP CONJUGATE POINT physics . As he says in the video… its like hammering a nail down into the ground.
“The explosion @ fukushima produced a VERY large pressure blast. When the blast blew down the chambers below the Fukushima reactors…. this caused a chain reaction to occur at the layer of natural gas / methane that literally encompasses the entire planet at a certain layer in the earths crust. Which in turn has now caused problems at MULTIPLE reactors around the world that are built the same way.
“This ALL happened because of a switch to an unstable combination of nuclear reactor core materials… Uranium and LETHAL plutonium….”
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1051/685/Compelling_Evidence:_Quakes_Caused_By_Nuke_Plants.html
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Russian hacker?
Breaking News: Programmer of Fukushima confesses “Fukushima had a cyber attack”
December 5th, 2011
“…He tried to send virus backward and it reached to Russia. Someone sent virus from or via Russia.
“He asked to staff from JP government about what is going on but they did not tell him anything in the name of ‘confidential’…”
http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/12/breaking-news-programmer-of-fukushima-confesses-fukushima-had-a-cyber-attack/
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Russians halt Japanese man sailing to Kuril island in blow-up boat
Aug 22, 2011, 12:59 GMT
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“2011-08-22: Moscow – Russian border troops detained a Japanese man attempting to sail to a disputed Pacific Ocean island in an inflatable boat, media reported Monday. Russian government statements identified the man as Keiseki Kuriyama, 37. …
“Japan claims Kunashir and three adjacent islands, at the south end of the Kuril chain. Tokyo says the islands, to the north of Hokkaido, are part of Japan and illegally under Russian control….”
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1658380.php/Russians-halt-Japanese-man-sailing-to-Kuril-island-in-blow-up-boat
The Kuril Islands are of strategic importance”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR4zXen4wlM
Biggest ever Russian vist to Kuril islands: How will Japan protest?
“…The area is rich in oil and rich in magnesium, titanium, gold, silver and other metals, Etorofu island is called even found a rare strategic metals (Re. Ministry of Natural Resources, according to Russian government estimates, the waters around the Kuril Islands, the value of all resources up to 2.5 trillion dollars, which only in the waters around the South Kuril Islands, the availability of biological resources can create a 4.5 billion U.S. dollars in annual revenue).”
http://www.peopleforum.cn/redirect.php?fid=11&tid=66368&goto=nextnewset
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