Many at Fukushima “now have brain damage” — Worker develops 3 types of cancer in a year — Secret hospital used to treat those sickened by radiation exposure — Doctor: “People cried… Can we survive?”

Published: March 3rd, 2017 at 1:15 pm ET
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Kyodo News, Mar 1, 2017 (emphasis added): A former worker at the site of the 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster filed a lawsuit Tuesday with the Sapporo District Court seeking labor compensation from the state for his subsequent development of three types of cancer… The man was diagnosed with bladder, stomach and colon cancers between June 2012 and May 2013 after taking part in work to clear debris with heavy machinery at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex… and was exposed to 56.41 millisieverts of radiation in total, according to his written complaint. His application for labor compensation filed at a labor standards supervision office in Fukushima Prefecture was rejected in August 2013. He repeatedly filed requests for re-examination of his application but they were also rejected… But his legal team said, “It’s rare for a person to develop three types of cancer at almost the same time“…

Al Jazeera, Aug 29, 2016: Fukushima’s surfers riding on radioactive waves… An employee of the nuclear plant said that he would never swim here as the water is too contaminated. Five of his friends who work at the plant now have brain damage.

Phoenix New Times, Oct 27, 2016: On my last day in Japan, I met with disaster medicine expert Dr. Atsushi Kumagai in a small conference room in the Fukushima University Hospital, about 52 miles from the Fukushima-Daiichi power plant… Two days after the accident at Fukushima, he, along with two nurses, a radiation technician, and a radiation biologist boarded an army helicopter and flew to Fukushima University Hospital… they managed to set up a temporary and secluded hospital-within-a-hospital at FMU. No one there knew how to handle radiation exposure, which meant that Kumagai and his staff had to train the FMU employees and treat sick people at the same time. For days, the staff worked long hours, taking a few hours at night to sleep on the floor in an empty part of the building. “Every night, we had deep discussions about how to think about this all. We talked about our feelings and anxieties, about the meaning of life, and ‘can we survive?’ “We had such deep conversations, and people cried,” Kumagai says, placing his hands over his heart. “Before the accident, frankly speaking, nobody was concerned about nuclear power… It is a big problem that nobody cared… No one really understood the risk or how to measure or think about the risk,” he says.

See also: "Shocking how many people died in Fukushima" -- Cremated bodies of Fukushima radiation workers found near plant -- "Such a high rate of cancer" being detected in Fukushima children (VIDEOS)

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239 comments to Many at Fukushima “now have brain damage” — Worker develops 3 types of cancer in a year — Secret hospital used to treat those sickened by radiation exposure — Doctor: “People cried… Can we survive?”

  • papacares papacares

    And the Dr replied, You not smiling enough


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    • A lie is being perpetrated on the Internet that no significant radiation related fatalities have resulted from the ongoing Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe. Anyone using any semblance of logic will know that this is fantasy! The evidence is overwhelming and clear, that large numbers of people have died, and more will die in the future as a result of this ongoing nuclear catastrophe!

      Please use the reports on this page to counter the lie, and educate people. Everyone is welcome to copy and use any of the information on this page.

      http://technologypals.com.au/fatalities-and-injuries-resulting-from-the-fukushima-nuclear-catastrophe


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    • neptune-klm

      Hello all, I am sort of new to the site. I wish I would have been following for the last 6 years, but I am here an alert to the situation now. After reading through lots of articles, comments and opinions, this situation is horifying, terrifying, angering about any other bad thing I can think of. Some questions/thoughts for the group…
      1. What can any of us do to protect ourselves? I am in the midwest US and I haven't been eating anything from the Pacific, but if the radiation is basically floating around in the air, it will eventually be everywhere and unavoidable in all food and water correct?
      2. It is obvious that this story is being buried and underplayed by the powers that be because I think it would create a panic. On that note, is it really that dire that nothing can be done to prevent everyone from getting cancer eventually? I mean I don't see our president and high up people hiding out underground (who would clearly have much more info than us lowly plebes), there are plenty of "rich" people that would likely be "in the know" who are still living on the west coast likely eating sushi etc.
      3. I realize that they have absolutely no clue how to deal with this issue at present time and are basically waiting on some sort of technology to be discovered to render the blob inert or something of the sort. So basically, the toxic water will spew into the Pacific likely for the rest of my lifetime eventually killing the entire ocean and spreading to other…


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      • neptune-klm

        from above…spreading to other waterways. I am near the great lakes and I realize it would take quite some time to get around to the great lakes, but when it does then basically the entire fresh water will be contaminated and by then the gov't will just likely raise the "safe limit" for the radiation consumption (which there is NO safe limit).
        Like most people here, I am obviously worried for my young son and his life which I want to be long, healthy and happy. I certainly don't trust the gov't to tell me that there are radioactive chemicals in my food and water as I don't believe that they would ever be truthful about it. I am also under the belief that if something happens and this blob explodes, it will be game over for the northern hemisphere in the least-is that correct? I mean really, as I am writing this I really don't see what I can do to protect my family short of moving to an underground bunker in Antartica?? Thoughts???


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        • SadieDog

          Welcome Neptune Kim. Great lakes area? Soon they will be bringing it to you.
          "Take a look at the plan from Ontario Power Generation for something called the "Deep Geologic Repository Project for Low and Intermediate Level Radioactive Waste." It's a plan to dig a 2,230-foot-deep repository for nuclear waste near the town of Kincardine, across from the tip of Michigan's thumb. That's roughly 60 miles from Harbor Beach. More importantly, however, it's about a half-mile from the Great Lakes, which just happen to be the source of drinking water for 44 million people. "

          http://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2017/03/03/days-left-to-comment-on-plan-to-store-radioactive-waste-near-lake-huron


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          • earthsmith earthsmith

            Hello and welcome neptune-klm, better late than never.
            Yes there is the planned repository by Canada plus there are several reactors on the US side of the lakes already dumping tritium laced water back in and whatever else cause that's how they roll..profit=no harm
            1: eat organic and or grow as much of your own food as possible, make and decontaminate your own soils. Quality supplements(vitamins minerals especially after detox, cleansing. Fermented foods
            2: There are underground facilities/towns don't underestimate. Obama told the citizens everything was ok while a massive radioactive plume rained down on the northern hemisphere as he, family and others went to the Southern Hemisphere for quite some time. Being rich doesn't make you smart or understand…what is rich anyway, not money for me. Trump is a fall guy, the bus is coming.
            3: They have clues and could have done more in the beginning to stem the continued releases. Like diverting the underground river, immediately start planning for some type of sarcophagus and not have made the insane claim that it was in COLD SHUTDOWN.
            Unit 3 did explode big time along with the others but in a different fashion…4 had a fire…massive initial fallout far and wide along with noble gases that dropped thousands maybe in tens of thousands of migrating birds and humans..whoops.
            Best of luck!
            There are others here with more knowledge that can do the details justice.


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            • neptune-klm

              Thanks for all the welcomes! I will likely spend my time here reading/lurking as opposed to posting, but who knows. I am near Davis-Besse on Lake Erie fyi, so I do have a KI supply. I am hearing that they are planning on permanently shutting it down (which sounds good to me!), but that will still leave the ones on the western side of the lake in MI to worry about (being up wind from me) and of course all the others in the world. While I am certainly not a nuclear scientist, I do have a chemistry degree so I am able to understand a lot of this nonsense. Maybe that is why it's so horific to read about. It's just so troublesome to contemplate and I know there are plenty of people out there who would say there is nothing to worry about, but best to educate than bury your head in the sand until it's too late. I see it's hard for people to be scared about something they can't see, smell, taste or see the effects of for years to come but the danger is there none the less. I will prepare and hope for the best as I think it's about all we can do. Let's hope some brilliant minds can figure something out sooner than later!


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              • HoTaters HoTaters

                Welcome and please stay with us here. We need your knowledge of chemistry here. So many unanswered questions & debates, & so many of us lack advanced knowledge of chemistry. It would be great to ask questions of a person with good knowledge of chemistry.

                Check out the Forum area archives for "combatting radiation and its effects" here. You'll find a wealth of information there. It's useful, helpful information you can use to protect yourself, and your family.

                As you learn more & more about the Fuku-mess and the nuclear industry & nuclear weapons, etc., don't be surprised if it makes you feel fear and loathing like you never felt before.

                Forewarned is forearmed. Peace, HT


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          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Welcome Neptune..you are going to need to read and research this topic.

            Here you go..
            https://www.google.com/search?q=How+to+survive+radiation+contamination&oq=How+to+survive+radiation+contamination&aqs=chrome..69i57.1729j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Neptune, if you look at quantity of radiation, the bomb test era was a larger event than Fukushima. The European Committee on Radiation Risk estimates that sixty million people died from the testing of nuclear bombs. The same organization has a much lower estimate for the projected numbers of deaths from Fukushima. A recent study on the environment indicates that the earth has lost half its animal life in 40 years. From this we can see the world was already in a vicious downward spiral even before Fukushima, which adds in known and unknown ways to the tragedy unfolding. We all have the tendency to wonder how bad it is in our vicinity and in our lives. The situation however is global. With autism set to reach nearly every newborn in 20 or 30 years at current rates, it is easy to see that future generations wont have the capability to deal with nuclear reactors at all with the consequence of global extinction. The reason that the rich, the scientists and the public are not concerned is because science is operating on a failed model of nuclear fallout toxicity. The main of scientists firmly believe that radiation levels are way too low to be of any consequence. The people naturally believe them.


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          • neptune-klm

            Code, I agree with your sentiments and that it is certainly a global issue. It appears that current population does not know how to deal with nuclear reactors let alone future generations who are appearing to become more concerned with Hollywood than issues of importance lol. As for the "projections" of the death numbers, I don't have a lot of faith in those projections, meaning I would bet it to be higher. Projections like that can be quite complex even to the point that we don't really understand it all as to wind, currents and the natural changes that the earth goes through over time. The range of data for such things is a quite small sample in the grand scheme of things. So yes, to your point I would say their methods are outdated. And there isn't a safe level of radiation to breath/ingest etc as far as I am concerned. Besides the natural background radiation, I don't want anymore than I can help being exposed to!


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              nuptune…to be clear, the ECRR is not considered mainstream science by mainstream science. The estimates of deaths by mainstream science is near zero. Rosalie Bertell made an estimate from all nuclear activity and arrived at around a billion. We know that it isnt too much more than that because of the global population trends. Not everything dies at once, and as you say, the ecosphere is much too complicated to model it accurately


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      • papacares papacares

        welcome N-K not sure you got your question about what can I do answered. Truth is there is not much. This is a great group of fine folks though many of those from 6 years back are now gone. About the best anyone can do right now is live every moment you have. Love your children, family and spouse with every ounce of strength you have. Appreciate every moment you get to spend with them. Stay out of the rain and snow. Carefully watch the foods you eat. Take at least a teaspoon of baking soda a day, take blue green algae, lots of vit D. Sure the group will chime in on other counter-measures. I have found jojobu oil to help with pesky skin spots, though some say olive oil works as well. Here on the oregon coast it is almost impossible to stay out of the rain and we get a lot of hot rain. Opinion only not advice – Peace


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  • razzz razzz

    I don't understand how anyone was allowed to get near a courtroom to sue TEPCO. Sieverts does not even consider resulting DNA damage when exposed to radiation.

    Expect an untimely death of the litigant ending the lawsuit.


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    He hit the Trifecta at Fukushima Downs


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  • AirSepTech AirSepTech

    "…Can we survive?”

    No. Maybe short term, but then everyone survives shortterm, before it is actually discovered. Some will even survive treatment.
    I am confounded on how 'society' has found this a good trade for security and convenience.

    Anyone run a 500-2000 year simulation? DNA?

    https://heatst.com/culture-wars/scripps-college-white-students-should-pay-minorities-for-emotional-labor/


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  • RonM RonM

    The ocean can only dilute the radiation pouring into it up to the point that it diffuses into nonradioactive water which there isn't especially after all the nuke testing and dumping of the previous 7 decades, what is called dilution is actually concentration its only dilution for the highly contaminated water that is being released or that which flows cannot be stopped. I read here, (ENENEWS articles) 2 isotopes will peak at approx 5,000 days and 10,000 days, I also read here that the new Fukushima radiation will basically become diffuse throughout the Pacific Ocean in approx 10 years, so after ten years the radiation will no longer be diluted by the ocean but will begin concentrating (even if the concentrations are at small pars per million or billion or whatever the levels are still dangerous),
    meanwhile I have also read here that the probability of a serious earthquake in the Fukushima region over 10 years is 100% and the main storage pools and others at the site which are structurally weaker than before the 3/11 disaster might drain and catch fire spreading more radioactive contamination around the globe and into the oceans.
    Also from articles here I read that the triple meltdown at Fukushima has lowered the frequency probability of a major nuke accident to about 1 every 7 years.

    Anyhow does all this sound about right to all you ENENEWSers ?

    If it is it seems that some really disastrous things are coming soon in the next 1-4 years.

    I guess we gotta keep…


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    • papacares papacares

      @RonM – myth of the ages is dilution is the solution to pollution. When it comes to rad there is no such thing as dilution – please everyone at ene this is the problem we face. the uneducated think rads dilute. these last 6 years has been one head butt after another with well meaning unlearned good-hearted people who just cannot understand rad. it was sold to them as being safe, clean and cheap. perhaps when they can understand the negatives then they will wake up, however history does not speak favorably on people waking up before a crisis. here in oregon if you mention this ongoing 3/11 FDNPGS world wide crises to OEM (oregon emergency management) they laugh and roll their eyes like who is this nut job. i have talked to Dr's on the coast and can see the panic in their eyes when one mentions the possibility of a rad/nuke event. also have talked with fishermen who say they hate me for trying to destroy their industry due to the rad toxicity of Pac seafood. what reminds me of the day i talked to a young father letting his baby play in raw sewage from a spill of the city outfall tank. this father accosted me and became enraged over my concern. when i pointed to the danger sign stating "danger – raw sewage outfall" this man said "who cares". real problem, few people understand reality. if not instant not relevant. life saver info is good but few will take time to read it. Notice how fast Sen Wyden dropped the issue


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    • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

      RonM,
      The 5,000 and 10,000 day peaks for Cesium and Strontium respectively assume that fission stopped immediately after the meltdown event supposed by the German study in question here. Since we have evidence that fission has not stopped at Fukushima (iodine 131 levels) we cannot assume that there will be a predictable "peak" of radioactive cesium, strontium and all other fission products like iodine and plutonium. The situation looks more like a sustained highly elevated plateaued level of radioactive emissions flowing and blowing out of Fuku. 530 Seiverts?!? Specialized robots designed to survive radiation cannot even last a couple hours to investigate where the melted fuels went to. Even if we could design, engineer and produce autonomous or remote controlled robots to clean up the rad fuels it would appear that the bots would perish in mere minutes or hours due to the incredible levels of radiation currently being observed at Fuku. Peak radiation levels could be 150 years from now for all we know. The German meltdown example is not applicable for Fuku, unfortunately. Nuclear is truly insane – criminally recklessly insane.
      BRF


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    • razzz razzz

      RonM: Would have been mostly correct except the disaster has yet to cease. No containment X3, leads to continued leaking of radioactivity and continues to add to radioactive fallout. Ocean and air dilution of radioactivity does not change the percentages of being effected, only spreads to more potential victims.

      A spent fuel pool fire would be worse than meltdowns or dropping a nuke bomb. Fuel rods become spent after undergoing so many years of fission inside a reactor that undesired radio-elements being created and building up interfere with neutrons bombardment rendering less fission reactions hence less possible heat creation as compared to new fresh (clean) fuel rods. Any spent fuel rod is chalked full of radioactive poisons needing centuries of safe storage.

      The longer fuel rods undergo fission, the more radioactive poisons will buildup (radioactive manmade creations). Even a small spent fuel pool would make a nuke bomb explosion look clean by comparison.

      Earthquakes are always a danger to nuclear reactor sites. Someone should advise the Japanese. They haven't got the memo yet.

      Various radioisotopes no longer existed on earth until man began fracturing uranium atoms. Caesium-137 and Strontium-90 for example could not be found on earth or maybe at best there was a handful plutonium. Now some of these manmade radioactive isotopes are measured in tons and still increasing.


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  • laconic93 laconic93

    The dilution theory is a myth because the radiation is not distributed equally. The current carries the majority of the radiation to currents that hit Alaska and goes straight down the West Coast. Now you know why The feds declared a fishing disaster in all 4 states.


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  • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

    The nukers and their sockpuppet shills in academia and media NEVER will mention bioaccumulation of radiation. The two verboten words of the nuker shills;
    RADIATION & BIOACCUMULATION


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      In my humble opinion, bioaccumulation does not account fully for the devastating effects of low level nuclear fallout. The full story has not been uncovered, the science is not finished. Point source is a key issue. Point source of hot particles, of atoms and molecules…the specific activity aspect…point source of Busby's heavy metal DNA micro antenna that weaponizes background radiation and funnels it into your master molecule, the mysteries of which are still being unraveled. One thing is for sure; becquerel counting does not tell the story. Mans nuclear fallout does not belong on earths living symphony. A discordant poison chemically, vibrationally, ionically


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  • RonM RonM

    Concerning the Dilution, Diffusion , and Concentration I was trying to clarify but I guess I also touched on too many points and it was confusing I will try an example and I do not want it to be confused with bio-accumulation which increases the radioactivity as it moves up the food chain but that also will get worse and worse and concentrating levels are reached.

    Say you have a bathtub full of water and you add a drop of red dye to it every ten minutes at the same point say near the faucet it will dilute (not trying to say diluted amounts of radiation aren't deadly just trying to illustrate the dire situation) after however many drops maybe 100 or 500 drops eventually the red dye will become diffuse and there will be no more areas untouched by the red dye, thereafter the red dye is no longer diluting in the tub but concentrating and getting a little darker with every drop.

    There are you tube videos showing the radioactivity from Fukushima spreading throughout the Pacific Ocean and it projects that the pacific becomes completely diffused with radiation after about 10 years. After that the radiation continues pouring into the Pacific and the radiation no longer is diluting but concentrating.

    With the radioactivity possibly pouring into the pacific oceans for decades maybe centuries, at what point does the entire ocean die?

    meanwhile the Pacific is connected to the rest of the worlds oceans so they all will eventually become radioactive and nowhere will be…


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Ron, I get the idea that continual addition is a concentration not a dilution. But you know the ocean was already filled with twelve thousand becquerels per cubic meter before man hit the scene right? The largest releases from Fukushima were at the beginning. Unless another disaster happens there…quite likely with the fuel pools and stuff by the way, the big whammy has whomped us. There is ongoing release…not good at all, a disaster even without the first four explosive nightmare nuclear catastrophe, but its not quite the right way to look at it for the time being. Some radionuclides have decayed to others and in time, if the place was truly decommissioned, things might possibly get better. This was seen for example when the wave of rads from Chernobyl wiped out U.S. bird populations. The krill is filtering the sea, bringing radioactivity to the bottom. The actual becquerel figure to anticipate is probably not more than twenty bq/m3 of cesium in the ocean. The black sea got up to sixty I think, from Chernobyl. To put the difficulty of becquerel thinking into perspective, you have five times as much natural radiation in your cells as the ocean, which would equate to about sixty or seventy thousand becquerels per cubic meter. So, as weve seen, becquerel counting can be very misleading. This is the problem when confronting an 'educated' public and the end of discussion when talking to a scientist. Simply stated, they got this one wrong.


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    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      I like the bathtub/dye, specifically for the solubles/Caesium and Tritium diffusing.

      I've also had good understanding with particles and 'dispersion', which is very different concept. Easy to 'visualize' for the newcomers.

      Same bathtub or pool, but throw in a handful of tacks. Keep adding to it, and no area is safe. You can have safe paths or areas that are clear, but more is more, it never 'dilutes', there is always risk, and it only gets worse.

      When you shift that idea into suspension in water or air, the reaction people have is,,, 'interesting'.


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        I think of a peanut butter sandwich. You add just a few grains of sand into the peanut butter, and no matter how you spread them around, it still takes all the pleasure out of eating.

        I visualize the beautiful Kipo Kai beach on Kauai. I imagine a reactor melting the sand into sharp spears that break into even nastier shards. No matter how you spread a few melted sand daggers around, it shards will always cut up between you toes, even slicing three fourths of the way through. That is the point source concept and why measuring the quantity of silica on the beach is not useful for determining its hazard


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          sheesh, not at all typo free since 2:33. Fix em in your own mind or figure out a work around


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          • AirSepTech AirSepTech

            haha think of it as a brain teaser. ;) love typo-frre meme

            My own personal version is 'invisible death darts', sometimes a mad scientist firing away, but mostly a bevy of careless nitwits with the 'no harm, no foul, catch me if you can' mentality.

            If my next door neighbor was doing that, I would kill them.
            Best not to have that public opinion. :lol:


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      RonM, if you are thinking of spreading the word about Fukushima, consider the first rule of thumb about engagement; you never convince anybody about anything. Once past that little hump, the second rule of thumb is that one doesnt know much about what one is talking about and your audience may know a lot more. Small setbacks for sure. Next, consider that the more you try to be convincing, the more they will be convinced you are wrong or off your rocker. This may well affect the tone of your relationship for years to come. Ive come to realize its no big loss. The next rule of engagement is the inevitable denial. Even after you painstakingly prove your point and they agree and everything, there will be a momentary pause and then they will look you right in the face and say Fukushima is the least of our concerns and you could die just walking out your front door from an asteroid or something. Now heres a novel problem Ive encountered myself; They die of cancer before you are done with your pitch. Somewhat related…theres nothing like trying to convince a room full of deformed and retarded people that we should be careful about radiation lest we lose some IQ points and our children get a birth defect. Sure they may be oceanographers and nuclear engineers, but the tension is still palpable


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    I read there's record-breaking drain bamage being exhibited on the western coast of america too, is that true?


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Some Fukushima Radiation Contamination west coast results.. :(

      Who you calling abstract? Dog named Picasso because of his unusual face is finally adopted after months of 'freaking people' out

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4280764/Dog-named-Picasso-unusual-face-adopted.html#ixzz4aNESvAaL
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      • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

        Who cares about Picasso?

        THIS is "abstract" art.

        http://nypost.com/2013/05/15/43-8-million-for-this/

        Rembrandt has nothing on that. And don't you dare suggest communist garbage isn't acceptable.


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      • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

        Seriously though, good on whoever adopted that dog.


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        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          This is about the result of the mutagenic damage done to this dog..not about any of the humans that might have adopted this for ever damaged deformed dog.

          When a supposed intelligent species damages the entire earth and it effects all species via its generated pollution in all forms..at some point reality.. must rule the day.


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          • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

            I understand. Which is why I'd occasionally mention seemingly OT stuff. I would, for instance, suggest that dog's mother was likely fed shit often promoted in society as healthy. Still, most people figured that dog wasn't "worthy" of living. That says a bit too..

            Do you recognize that there are multiple "realities" at war, currently?

            For instance, here's something random, check out the iodized/iodated salt hoax. It's particularly lacking in iodine, almost like that wonderful other "health initiative" named water fluoridation.


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          • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

            "Scientists", for instance, would tell us tritiated water is perfectly safe. That's a neat gimmick deflection they use when trying to sell thorium reactors (which are quite suitable for weapons-grade enrichment).

            Hey, they even tell us 5G (higher, specific frequency stuff) isn't a causative factor in cancer (btw, I've seen some studies about that), you know, because "correlation isn't causation", they'd rather address symptoms, cancer racketeers.


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            • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

              Sorry, got a bit predictive there. I meant to say "non-ionizing" radiation, rather than 5G.


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            • Jebus Jebus

              I suppose, all those FD1NPP workers could all be carrying cell phones in their back pockets.

              It's like bringing oranges to a banana peeling symposium…


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            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              You appear to have done a great deal of research and all research and any of the links associated with anything that inadvertently damages..this once upon a time.. Earth paradise.. are welcomed here.

              Time is a fleeting and the pending problems are now huge and we are all running out of time in presenting and then following up on viable solutions..

              Mother Nature is now speaking to us all..


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            • danger kitty danger kitty

              Rape:unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.
              Nuclear power & the inevitable disasters meet that def. of rape. The sum of results; murder.
              Mother and Child Killers. Thoughts manass?


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              • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                Autumn leaves, an ideal ledge. This is what's left of thousands of years of rape of the earth.

                So, fuck you (not you, personally), gotta do what I gotta do, dude. I'll be your friend, but I'm never coming back again, better get out of sight, there's a killer up above. Too low, I'm coming in hot, but I'm bringing this bitch in, cut you all down to size.

                Heavily coded.


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                • danger kitty danger kitty

                  So leaf now, FM, you bring no value here. Distraction.
                  BBL. Got work to do. I'll be sharpening my chain saw…
                  I slash, rip & bite, too.


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                  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                    Well now, I have to wonder, should I listen to you or some of the other posters?


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                    • Jebus Jebus

                      How about you look up at the OP's topic and prove to yourself that you are here out of concern for the issues the original messenger was trying to convey in creating the forum he graciously allows others to post in…

                      Again, there is a welcoming OT forum here…


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/243904-fukushimas-reactor-2-far-radioactive-previously-realized-no-sign-containment-breach

                      I posted there speaking out against nuclear radiation, I mentioned this in the other thread to, but they deleted my (and not just) comments repeatedly. Eventually I decided to delete my account. Many of my replies there did link to ENEnews (the ones marked as deleted, but also comments without replies you cannot see).

                      Ontological used to be a poster here, right? DecksUpMySleeve posts quite simarly in that thread…who knows?

                      Anyway, you can think of me what you will.

                      The owner of this site can ban me as he/she wishes.


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                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      Ontological was brilliant and respected the guidelines. You have no right to try and align anything with him. Why are you so afraid of OT..are scared you might get cut down to size?


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      I'm not necessarily trying to align with ontological, yes, he was brilliant and I mentioned anothered person with similar traits speaking out against nuclear radiation on another site having similar brilliance.

                      Yeah I'm a piece of shit. What do you want me to say? I can't even respect someone call brilliant?

                      How about taking some of your crusading to other popular sites?


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      And excuse my typing, if you can.


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      Btw, anybody know what happened to ontological? I mean, I used to like his posts and insights and then he disappeared?


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                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      He was fighting a very aggressive form of cancer.. any aggressive form of cancer.. usually ends up winning.

                      One can only hope that he is OK and that he beat it back successfully.

                      He is only one of this world's many millions in the exact same cancer battle with our world's current all things synthetic pollution load that is now expanding rapidly.


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      Thanks Obewan, I do recall reading a few posts from him about that (my memory is a bit iffy though), I'm not exactly in great physical health either. Though I haven't seen a "doctor" in many years, last time I visited one, he prescribed crap with contraindications to my conditions, not exactly surprising.

                      The cancer racketeering (which the nuke industry conspires with) really makes me angry. I've had a few family members afflicted/and or die of cancers…

                      What do you suggest we do?


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                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Oh My! Chuckles! :)


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                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      Im not a crusader first of all farthington that's for zealots. I have paroused other sites but originally found this place most informative and direct. I've been protesting nuclear since my mom had a nervous breakdown from TMI her brothers knew. I might not be the sharpest knife in the draw but I know. I speak to people I meet face to face thanks mostly to what I have learned from posters on this site. It's a simple recipe, why mess with what is working. I can see why that wouldn't work for you though. Maybe you should stop speaking to yourself, though I guess that's what crusaders do.


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      Btw, in my discussion with that council member, he didn't have a clue and was quite surprised at what I said.

                      Though, somewhat in agreement, he mentioned a stunning lack of being able to order, say specific prawn, variability, huge price increases, etc.


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Congratulations Farthington MacMananus! You have won the new wallpaper award by posting 36% of the last 100 posts! You win a purple ribbon for being a legend in your own mind, a pink ribbon for babble and a yellow ribbon for a good link to a music video! (cheers, heavy applause, balloons and a five piece pomp pomp girl line dressed in bikinis and South African flags do a number) For those who cant figure out what hes talking about, you KNOW he must be smart! OK, you can proceed down the hall, hang a left and out the exit doors, excellent work! Dont forget to pick up your Harten-mallory cusp rediculator for activating your brand new Z-34 Cap-x (not for sissies) Buxly


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                  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                    So Earthsmith, how would you know that I haven't told people, personally, about the dangers of nuclear radiation, power plants, fukushima, etc, either?

                    Hey, I even personally spoke to one of the council members of our national sustainable fisheries (or something like that) about it a year or two ago.

                    I daily mention this stuff to some of my family, though I no longer consider some of them, as a result of their physical an spiritual abuse.


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                  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                    Also, having perused other sites, and posted and them and repeatedly speaking out against radiation. Yes, ENEnews has some good information, but sometimes, you know, speaking here is preaching to the choir, so to say.

                    Do you understand that consensus considers ENEnews mostly irrelevant, right?

                    So, what's so wrong about actually informing people, elsewhere?

                    They'll probably ban and delete your comments too.


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                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      They have done that but it's expected on MSM sites, nothing new. I never said you didn't speak to other people. They also consider Fukushima irrelevant, so.
                      Preaching to the choir…eh stop speaking, you know put a sock in it.
                      I truly wish you well, but I'm a sucker that way..always try to give the benefit of the doubt. People take advantage of it. Your not the only that knows abuse physical or otherwise, but I will stop now there are folks who want to talk about what's relevant not this and that from me or you.


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          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Obe, it looks like mutagenic damage. Did you see mention of the dogs' owners being backyard breeders? Picasso is likely from a puppy mill.

            Breeders will say lots of things go wrong with Bad breeding. All kinds of genetic problems surface. Yes, it looks like mutagenic damage. Radiation will cause animals to have horribly mutated faces.

            it is possible there was some extreme breeding going on, esp. on the bully breed side.

            http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wilderness-resources/stories/inbreeding-causes-deformities-and-suffering-for-pedigree

            One wouldn't expect this kind of mutation in a mixed-breed dog.

            Exposing mom-dog to environmental toxins when puppies are in uterio can cause deformities. Radiation isn't the only known culprit.

            Did humans use Glyphosphate when pups were in utero? Remember pics shared here of horribly mutated animals in Argentina, damaged by Glyphosphate? Unless a veterinary expert, it's hard to pin down causation. MANY different types of genetic damage are possible.

            Merck Veterinary manual on facial deformities in animals:

            "Bone diseases are generally congenital or hereditary, nutritional, or traumatic."

            http://www.merckvetmanual.com/musculoskeletal-system/musculoskeletal-system-introduction/disorders-of-bone

            Some of your prior links where you point out mutagenic damage show pics of humans/animals with damage from non-radiation causes.

            Please let's tighten up our arguments so people don't think we're kooky.


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          • HoTaters HoTaters

            If it looks like a duck, obe, quacks and walks like a duck, it's not necessarily a duck when mutagenic damage is discussed. Didn't see that you specifically said radiation caused the mutagenic damage.

            And you said comment re: discussion on the various things causing damage to living creatures are welcome here. (In fairness.)

            IMO we should differentiate between radiation-induced mutagenic damage & non-radiation induced damage, when possible.

            This comment isn't directed at you specifically. I have noticed you infer radiation is a culprit in mutagenic damage. Personally I wouldn't link to pics where damage from other causes is lumped together with Glyphosphate damage & other genetic disorders.

            Agreed, it's very important people see how radiation from Fukushima, Chernobyl, Semipalatinsk, Fallujah and DU cause horrific mutagenic damage.

            Our critics are very quick to point out instances where there are other causes. They call us fear mongers & probably worse things.

            This is more of a general comment on discusssions here. We've mentioned several times over the years we need to try to maintain credibility in the face of critics, deniers, and detractors.

            Haven't read the Macmanus comments, & this is not in reference to that whole discussion.

            Thanks for hearing me out. And yes, there are a lot of human-related activities and poisons imperiling all life on earth. Glad you speak out on that, obe, and thank you. Respectfully, HT


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    • tarpus

      Yes, it's called Berkeley University…oh I just can't help it. Long time no see, guys. :)


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    • Its All True Its All True

      ever since Nancy Pelosi was first elected….


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    I noticed some people here are fond of poetry. I can't really say I'm particularly skilled in proETry or literature, but anyway…

    http://pastebin.com/eQdTVu5X


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  • Jebus Jebus

    That infamous misapplied rogue wave height map is turning out to be very prophetic in nature…


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Just throw up a wall.

    Any old wall, does not matter.

    It will make you safe.


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  • danger kitty danger kitty

    HOW to hack a computer with just an image.
    http://thehackernews.com/2015/06/Stegosploit-malware.html?m=1

    Sock Reef is man ass. Signature phrases. Role playing. Two phrases so far: showing your ass, his handle. Also- good on…whatever.
    Look under the hood of his avatar, those that can. Remember a few years ago I reported that bcuz my slow internt,as the pages load slowly, avatar loads last. While waiting, user's handle holds that space—>EXCEPT his! The words there were NOT his handle but some movie title.
    It's him it's all Bullshit. I did have trouble refreshing pages last night. 401's…


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  • gracer gracer

    Not sure if carrot juice could overcome cancer from radiation, but amazing couple of articles here. Very simple and it took 8.5 months.
    "Falcarinol is an antioxidant found in carrots and has proven anticancer properties."

    http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2017/02/what-if-i-told-you-carrots-cure-cancer-2478924.html

    http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/ralph-cole-cured-cancer-with-carrot-juice/


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  • Jebus Jebus

    The greatest achievement of mankind will be his own extinction.

    This is nuclear's finest hour.

    Angelika Claussen: The Risk of Low Dose Radiation

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZBlptKF3zw&feature=youtu.be

    :|


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    Cheers Obewan, later dude. Thanks for the courtesy and respect, heir today, gone tomorrow, the passing light of day.

    Notice their left ear fiddling. The rest. These people, probably won't understand. Yeah well…

    http://imgur.com/a/SiVMa


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Cheers to you..

      We are all in this thing together whether we like it or not.

      Thinking we are way to far along the path to change the present course, but we must all keep on trying.

      Truth to light..may be our only and last hope.


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      heir today gone tomorrow? I think thats when H-Dog is coming back…you cant miss it. Im sure your link of left ear fiddling is, well, ambiguously equivocal, please dont mind if I wont click on it. The rest. Yeah well etc. and so forth.

      You see, when you said simplicial geometry was the inimitable subject of fascinating study, you lost everybody right there. Why? because there isnt a single reader who doesnt know that wavelet tensor transform via quantic tensor train decomposition superseded triangulating domain descriptors long ago which is mainly generated automatically now when needed by programs when they do some mundane finite element calcs or something. Everybody knows it and its just old hat stuff for these people. The broken gears in your non functional US cleaner didnt help either…it was a set back.

      Fiddling with peas gets boring for people who are hungry for the enchilada. Im sure well be seeing you again…if not today, then tomorrow and for the rest of our…


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      • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

        Let me be clear, I'm back for a little while, posting here, I regret. A liar, a heathen, conceivably. Honestly, a steroid junkie just today tried to move in to my house, with a grin and a smile. Of course I had to reject, set a trap for a rodent, a mouse.

        I don't hear what you say when you talk that way, with shifty eyes, repeating everything twice, transparently, between your read lines. You didn't even bother to click on the link and what I say. Why should I consider you, go away.

        But soon, there will be no seeing me again. Don't you get it? Easy to see gesture, hard to admit, I'm not welcome here, but I'll rant a bit. I'll check the site out and mention the abuse. Though don't you act like a duck, when really, you're more of a wolf in denial, your comments suggest they're false, they're goose.

        Harvesting for energy in one way or the other, scapegoating a martyr. That's fine, wine and dine, I establish the distance, further and farther. Punisher, wow, much pun is her. Later.


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Farthington, people dont miss us when were gone, unless we were in the habit of giving out money or something.

          Of course you are welcome as the flawed human we all are. But this should be obvious; the person who is belligerent and narcissistic or manipulative is never well received. Perhaps you were judged too harshly…do you think so? It was a number of people, each reacting independently. That says something.

          So ply your literary skills, make your presentation as you like. Show a little humanity and humility and the path will be smoother. If you are passionate about life on earth, dont troll. Thats obvious. Thats my 1/2 cents worth


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          • DUDe DUDe

            For me it was the childish name on the new poster , made the first thing he said that was open for interpretation flagging suspicious..now i'm also wondering "we" (lol) jumped the gun too fast..


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            • or-well or-well

              No, we didn't. Fartass was all pink slime and no meat, a baiting, nonsensical, off-topic, deflecting, forum sliding/disrupter attempting ingratiation while waiting to push alternatives to nuke blame, just a porcine fake squirting shit out his ass, if you catch the MBP of what I'm saying.


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              • DUDe DUDe

                I dont think so anymore or-well sry..he is way smarter then any trolls we had thus-far..i think he is honest..
                I keep scrutinizing but wont attack unless i'm sure..i grew up with a saying..
                ".if you wanne hit a dog , its easy to find a stick.."


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                • or-well or-well

                  DUDe, no problem. I think he was another iteration of someone here before, as I allude above, playing a bit more coy.

                  In any case, all he brought was pop tarts and poppycock, dangling multiple sympathy angles, attempting to appear as a hero called "comment deleted" and a "regular guy".

                  I don't hit dogs but I can smell bullshit.


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    • DUDe DUDe

      "..Although there’s no evidence suggesting that was the case, state Senator Sonny Borrelli, a Republican representing Lake Havasu City, said that his bill was necessary in order to crack down on the groups that are paying protesters.."

      What hypocritical tyrannical bull..can't they just outlaw paying protesters..or being payed to protest..oh wait , that would be a problem for all the kochroaches..for the soros and the rotchilds..the CIA global , no more destabilizing country's to gain control LOLOL

      And all the lobby'ist cant fatten the politician either then..lobbying or citizens united is the same on another level..someone bring mister Borrelli some karma..remember it and remind others when the next election comes around if ever or whatever..


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  • curly

    Trump to ihttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/26/us/politics/trump-budget.html?_r=0ncrease millitary budget, cut environmental budget.


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    • or-well or-well

      Here's Shell's climate change vid – 28:31

      https://youtu.be/0VOWi8oVXmo


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      • DUDe DUDe

        Thanks curly and or-well.. and all this unability to match insights with actions is for a major part thanks to the unlimitness of individual wealth that is allowed to be on this planet..

        If one has acces to a source that provides him hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars a year..how could he himself voluntarily jeopardize that..its too addictive and corrupting..and especially with such a dose..kicking it is impossible for the majority of humans..

        If we would live in a world without inflation..and a max limit of say 250.000 dollars a year regardless what job or function..it would be way easier to do the right thing because there would be way more jobs like that..one could "stay addicted" if one likes..but a cap on the dose for everyone..

        And that is not even diving in to the benefits that there would be a natural occuring limit on the influence of topbankers and warprofiteers and the likes on our broken by corrupt politics destiny..

        And another thing i just think about..there should be a max percentage fixed in the constitution about how much percent of a country's money can be taken for government functionality aka taxes..if the majority of workers has to do with less..so does everything else..


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Trump and those of the cloth are obviously not green people and care little for Mother Earth except to exploit her as much as possible.

      Must be that love of mo money and that dominion thing playing out inside their programmed by other's heads.. :(

      The day of reckoning is fast approaching..


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      • curly

        Obe

        Will the day of reckoning come before or after America is great again?


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        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          How many times do the average masses have to fall for the pitch line.
          Help us make America great again, greater still, greater than great, WHATEVER.. only to see that the whole song and dance is set up to advance the wealthy.
          The masses so easily swayed..by factionalism, for this..against that.
          Played every four years like a fiddle.

          Why do the workers..feel like they are/have part of the 'boss man's' pie?


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        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          A created Ponzi scheme can only last so long… the reckoning will be soon..Mother Nature will not wait for any of us supposed intellectual humans to come to our senses.

          The human carnage and damage to our environment can be seen playing out everywhere.

          Some call it climate change, while others call it Earth changes, and some even say no worries this is/what is now happening.. is just natural…dead zones are/must be simply cyclical occurrences.

          The report card is fast approaching and the grading system used will be one of shock and awe when all is said and done.

          Worst thing we humans could have ever done was to place our faith/head/minds and spiritual well being somewhere up in the sky/off planet.

          A 100% trashed planet will not be able to sustain biological life.. as we know it much longer..it is what it is.

          Why the smart ones are either digging bolt holes or want off planet as quickly as possible ..me thinks.

          The wanton desire of greed destroys all that it touches..the more for me and mine.. will end up having dire consequences for all species.

          Only one species on this Earth has ever had a bank account..the bill to be paid.. will be huge.


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    • or-well or-well

      Furthering "Murka's descent into blatant 3rd-world kleptocracy.
      Top scientists will leave, get jobs in countries still funding.


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  • curly

    Mehttp://www.iflscience.com/environment/discovery-worlds-largest-methane-pool-anything-good-news/thane


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  • Sol Man

    Should not have sold out to dance with the devil.


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  • irhologram

    Air. Purpose of sulfuric acid in NPPs? RE: Cook County NPP gasket leaked 1,000 gals into containment vessel. RSOE

    "Cleanup of a leak at the Cook Nuclear Plant is going on right now. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission reports more than 1,000 gallons of sulfuric acid leaked into a containment area. The agency says no acid made it into the environment or nearby drains. Staff found the leak yesterday." (Fri.)

    I missed this in our discussions. What is the role of sulfuric acid in nuclear power plants?

    Four years ago, I began warning of pinhole and weld leaks, and breach of all rubber wiring, insulation (and exploding/burning switchyards, transformers and control panals) and gaskets throughout due to water and airborne absorbtion of corrosive gases, i.e., H2S, which eats through metal, rubber, wood, paper, concrete, etc.

    Why again is sulfuric acid present near containment? Anyone?


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    • or-well or-well

      RE: sulfuric acid at NPPs -

      possibly this -

      "A power station requires a sufficient supply of sulfuric acid as part of the water treatment regimen for the cooling
      towers. If the sulfuric acid supply is inadequate, fouling of the cooling system is possible."

      http://www2.emersonprocess.com/siteadmincenter/pm%20rosemount%20documents/00830-4200-4811.pdf


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      • or-well or-well

        AH! DC Cook NPP uses an ice condenser containment system.
        So, they handle water that needs treatment.
        These systems can be googled.


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      • or-well or-well

        This explains it.

        http://www.pumpengineer.net/webarticles/deirdre-morgan/rotary-gear-pumps-chemical-feed-water-treatment-applications-at-nuclear-power-plants.html

        "…they typically pump more than 500,000 gallons of water per minute through heat exchangers in their circulating water systems. These systems cool the plant’s condensers and they remove heat from the steam that exits the plant’s main turbine.

        Nuclear plants also have service water systems that are used to cool air compressors, lube oil systems and other systems related to the safe shutdown of the reactor. Without enormous quantities of water, nuclear power plants cannot operate. However, quantity alone is not all that matters – the quality of the water has a direct impact on the plant’s efficiency. That’s why all of the water used must be filtered and cleaned during use and before being discharged back into the environment.

        "…Once the water has entered the plant’s circulating system it must be cleaned via chemical feed processes in order to manage micro-bio organisms and to prevent scaling, corrosion and foulants from hindering the efficiency of the condenser."

        "…To clean the water, chemicals such as sulfuric acid and sodium hypochlorite solutions are metered via rotary gear pumps."


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        • irhologram

          Or-well. TY!

          From you link: To clean the water, chemicals such as sulfuric acid and sodium hypochlorite solutions are metered via rotary gear pumps. These applications feature exceedingly high flow rates and relatively low pressure…

          …"After the water is used it is discharged back into the environment, but before doing so, it is treated with a de-chlorination chemical, such as sodium meta-bisulfite. In cases where high dosing rates are required, the de-chlorination chemicals can be metered out by rotary gear pumps."

          …..
          The upside is clean water. What is the downside of gasket leaks of 1,000 gals. of sulfuric acid into the containment vessel? How would pure sulfuric acid react there?

          How many gaskets arrays of separation are there fro. the distance between water intake and acid influx and that mixtures' distance from pure acid to the containment vessel? Also, no mix ratio of acid/water is given.

          There is dechlorination of the released water back into the environment, but what removes the sulferic acid, or is the concentration acceptable, even considering accumulation? What does this contribute to anaerobic waters' production of H2S by opportunistic bacteria that thrive in that enviornment?

          …I'm curious if these gaskets are repeatedly vulnerable to corrosion, and moreso in years to come IMO… 1) For the effect on the containment chamber … And 2) Just in general, for the environmental effect of water release on acidification.


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          • or-well or-well

            Irho, I found no story saying it leaked into the containment vessel.
            Each story I read (about 2 dozen) said it leaked from a tank of acid into the berm designed to contain such a leak should it occur.
            Believe it or not.
            Frankly, I think the ice condenser containment system warrants a lot more worry, because, to put it most simply – it's shit.


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            • irhologram

              Or-well. So RSOE got it wrong and the stories got it right?

              http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=HZ-20170303-57363-USA

              And my other questions?


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              • or-well or-well

                Irho – "a containment area" is not the same as the containment vessel – an area for containing leaks from the storage tank, the area being large enough to contain the entire contents of the tank, which is more than was in the tank at the time of the leak and more than leaked.

                Believe what you want, as you usually do.

                Why not read the many stories about it that are all over the internet and even try and answer your questions yourself?


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                • irhologram

                  "Believe what you want, as you usually do."

                  What the H?

                  I'm trying to learn about the effects of sulfuric acid on NPPs and the environment. The questions I asked about its discharge aren't in the stories.

                  Anyone other than Or-well, please. Can you please not hold wanting to know how things work against me and tell me the approximate size of a containment area is in relationship to the containment vessel, how big a containment vessel is inside it, and how far the separation of 1,000 gals. of sulfuric acid in the containment area is from the containment vessel? When we're discussing Fukushima, the containment area is the size of a very large room…? Is this correct?

                  I'd rather not be insulted by anyone responding…and would prefer an attempt to understand the effects of sulfuric acid on containment and when released in affluent, on the emvironment,


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                  • GOM GOM

                    Irholo

                    Fukuleaks has an amazing article that answer these questions, plus a full inside look at containment building (includes details).

                    They say some of sits in water underneath. ?

                    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=7955


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                  • razzz razzz

                    It is practically distilled water being used during the operation of a nuke plant. At least that is what they strive for all and all its known properties in that state (pure). Filtering, treatment and testing to maintain a pure water state is a known in industries whether it's a primary objective or a secondary process.

                    Of course in a nuke plant, water will never be pure. Solid particles settle out over time in nooks and crannies. Wear and tear is always adding impurities like seals and metal slowly eroding.

                    What it really takes is time and money which the nuke industry skimps on especially when it comes to maintenance. Seems any NRC fines for enforcement are only a cost of doing business and not punitive enough to encourage compliance. As if nuke leaks or fallout is tolerable.

                    I think money is more the issue than if they are operating safely and know how to maintain equipment properly. They do know how to maintain a nuke plant but they don't due to money concerns.


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    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      H2So4 is used to control ph in cooling water.

      A containment for tank contents is just that, keep it from spilling uncontrolled into the environment.

      Ask any question you want re Cooling Water/towers/pumps/operations.
      They are all basically the same.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    A triple haiku from me to you…

    Washing away time.

    With ocean's of denial.

    Midnite for mankind.

    Floating endlessly.

    Beyond all the hopes and dreams.

    Fruition denied.

    One garden set free.

    Evolution into time.

    Earth was lost in space.


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  • GOM GOM

    Radiative damage to brain tissue often is seen as swelling.

    A spectrum of changes was observed ranging from white matter edema to extensive white matter necrosis, and the extent, location, and type of damage were dependent upon radiation dose.

    Radiation can induce small head size as well as mental retardation, and a review of the relationship between small head size and anthropometric measurements, such as height, weight, sitting height and chest circumference, shows that individuals with small head size have smaller anthropometric measurements than

    Article Citation:

    Michael J. Moravan, John A. Olschowka, Jacqueline P. Williams, and M. Kerry O'Banion (2011) Cranial Irradiation Leads to Acute and Persistent Neuroinflammation with Delayed Increases in T-Cell Infiltration and CD11c Expression in C57BL/6 Mouse Brain. Radiation Research: October 2011, Vol. 176, No. 4, pp. 459-473.

    Cranial Irradiation Leads to Acute and Persistent Neuroinflammation

    Abstract

    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/095530098141555


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  • GOM GOM

    Fukushima Mass Incidence Of "Normal"Thyroid Cancer

    Note: Blow-up pic of child and look at the right side bottom of neck.. This is a HUGE mass. Also, see those 'rings' around her neck? This indicates a very ill person. I have never seen this on a 4 year old..

    By August 2015, showed that nearly 50% of the 300,476 subjects had solid nodules or fluid-filled cysts on their thyroids.

    "To stem this “epidemic,” Ahn and others discourage routine thyroid cancer screening"

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/mystery-cancers-are-cropping-children-aftermath-fukushima


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  • GOM GOM

    Brain scan overdose offers glimpse of radiation threat

    A wave of nausea washed over Marcie Iseli shortly after her CT scan finished. Then her head started to feel strange, as if heat was emanating from somewhere deep inside. Her face started to feel uncomfortably warm, like she’d been sunburned.

    Within minutes, Iseli became a victim of radiation poisoning, with some of the same symptoms and possible long-term effects that may face workers now exposed to high levels of radiation at Japan’s ailing Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42100129/ns/health-health_care/t/brain-scan-overdose-offers-glimpse-radiation-threat/


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    This guy has an incredible collection of Fukushima/Tepco internal videos.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/hilbert00/videos

    Antonio Bulgheroni


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    TEPCO has brain damage. Holes in the brain.


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  • "In the late 1980s, a Japanese scientist named Koji Minoura stumbled on a medieval poem that described a tsunami so large it had swept away a castle and killed 1,000 people. Intrigued, Minoura and his team began looking for paleontological evidence of the tsunami beneath rice paddies, and discovered not one but three massive, earthquake-triggered waves that had wracked the Sendai coast over the past 3,000 years…."
    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wests-super-floods-may-wash-171002494.html


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Ok.. demeans.. a sense of injustice.
    The effects harder on women and children.. research shows that.

    But there is a male population.
    Males are not immune to the effect.

    I strive for a better word…than demeaned.
    This is more than insult…

    Fukushima Catastrophe at 6: Normalizing Radiation Exposure Demeans Women and Kids and Risks Their Health
    March 6 2017

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/06/fukushima-catastrophe-at-6-normalizing-radiation-exposure-demeans-women-and-kids-and-risks-their-health/


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Women and children first on the nuclearist's lifeboat. A boat you don't want to be in. Their definition of everything is that which benefits them most.


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    • DUDe DUDe

      "..This is more than insult…"

      Yes much more..its insult to injury..but issent that what this "male centered" predatory world does all the time..

      "..Women’s voices should count for more, not less..

      Women are often the most concerned about social health, and are the first and most vociferous in protecting public health following a nuclear catastrophe. And science shows they should be. Women and children are more vulnerable to radiation’s impacts and the life-stage of pregnancy is uniquely sensitive. They pay the highest price for nuclear power and it releases, so their voices should count for more, both in the energy decisions we currently face and in how we protect those whose lives are upturned by nuclear catastrophes.."

      Btw..i dont wanne ad insult to woman by this litle comparison because it is on a much less important scale of injustice..but the same energy..i dont forgive those that used the "..those bleeding heart socialist treehuggers scum.." and others demeanors either..
      Simply giving the fact that they , the bleeding hearts , where/are the ones that are right too and know it..and the fascist have just continued destroying everything..and will continue to do so..and have now connected the empty concept "Being Great" directly to it..

      Humanity is drowning in its own evilness..


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  • Fukushima Compared To Hiroshima, Chernobyl and 2,400 Open Air Nuclear Bomb Tests, Background Ocean Radiation Levels Pre/Post Atomic Age, Peak Ocean Radiation Level 180,000,000 Bq/m³
    http://www.agreenroadjournal.com/2013/05/fukushima-radiation-measured-in-pacific.html


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      the problem I have with that peak radiation level is that it depends on how close one is to the source. In other words, it is not an indicator of the magnitude of any of the disasters, its not a comparative standard at all. An example makes this clear; there were three rock concerts. Three different teams made measurements of sound pressure level. Team A took measurements at one mile, team B at fifty yards and Team C one inch from the speakers. By comparing the readings, it was found that the third rock concert, measured by team C was far louder than the other two


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      • curly

        Here you say it's distance and not magnitude. Do I have that right? Did the team a mile away still hear the music and were they motivated to dance, like the teams at fifty yards and one inch?


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          curly, to be clear, the magnitude of the measurement depends on the distance, and there is no standard distance given in the comparison of the three events in the AGR article. Thus its an entirely invalid way to compare the disasters.


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  • With so many bomb tests conducted by various military forces I'm sure there is plenty of secret info regarding fall-out plume patterns. Measuring radiation is complicated. only military and government have the monetary resources to invest in equipment and man power to produce comprehensive results. They tell us what they have to but no-one tells the whole story. Up here in Vancouver Canada, I met a young man years ago who was missing a limb due to cancer. He told me that a doctor told him "off the record" that why he got severe cancer so young was most likely due to a "chunk of radio-active material from an Atom bomb test"
    but "I can't tell you that officially".

    Since military info kept top secret we are left only with unsubstantiated stories and conjecture. The word on the street is radiation does not dissipate like food dye in a milkshake but is more like broken pieces of styro-foam in a river.

    Numbers of radiation exposure like seiverts per hour are hard to wrap mind around as we have no practical experience of, unlike say miles per hour.
    However the picture of a hospital bed containing a lingering death, or even a personable good looking young man missing a leg is another way of seeing the consequence of allowing radiation and other pollutants to be an acceptable cost of doing business.


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  • I suggest following unbeatable argumentative three-step procedure against Fukushima-Denialists:

    1. Claim that Everything that is not proven impossible is possible, whereas it is not true that everything that isn’t proven possible is impossible.
    2. Out of two possible events whose probability you cannot otherwise determine, it is always rational to assume the worst case scenario. Assuming you’re wrong while you predicted the bad outcome, nothing terrible is going to happen (except for your prediction to fail). But assuming you’re wrong while you predicted the good outcome makes you unprepared for a horrible situation.
    3. Everything you believe will become true (this is due to Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle.)

    However, this argumentative trick only works if you believe in deontological ethics, that is, you valorize truth as such and actions for what they are. If you believe in consequentialism, you only want to hear positively useful information from the start. And because of Heisenbergs principle, you would of course turn your attention away from bad news, since they are self-fulfilling prophecies. If you believe in ethical nihilism, you might or might not be convinced by the argument, depending on the situative context. Paradoxically, I've come to the conclusion that marxist materialist nihilism vindicates the Second Law of Thermodynamics. And if the Second Law of Thermodynamics holds true, we're all fucked in the long run, no matter what we do.

    What do you…


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Taking a page from the nuclear playbook there: " Claim that Everything that is not proven impossible is possible, whereas it is not true that everything that isn’t proven possible is impossible."

      The double negative sounds just like their strategy. Confound the audience.

      Ex: "Nuclear is clean and green and safe and too cheap to meter, but the technology to fix our melted reactors does not yet exist, and we need to raise electric rates and more subsidies. It is so unreasonable for people to question the safety of our food and our passion to restart reactors! We are afraid that alternative energy will not supply enough power to develop the future technology to fix our little boo. Whaaaa (sob)


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  • Sol Man

    How to tell how much trouble living entities are in, a question: what plants or animals thrive in a nuclear glovebox?

    None.


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  • Sol Man

    But, I thought that we are the champions of the world.


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