Experts: Scary problems on California coast — There may be “no food anywhere” along Pacific except in isolated areas — “It’s like crime scene investigation” in ocean — ‘Certainly’ Fukushima is one of stresses to sea life — Dolphins, whales more likely to be bathed in radiation (VIDEO)

Published: August 30th, 2014 at 12:39 pm ET


Interview with Kristen Milligan(transcript excerpts), Oregon State University marine ecologist, by WheepingWillow, June 13, 2014 (emphasis added):

  • 4:30 in — “There‘s other issues going on, like with  dolphins and sea lions… There’s all these different stresses happening and certainly Fukushima is one.”
  • 8:30 in –” The problems we’re having in Monterey Bay, I think it’s pretty different than the sea star wasting. It is a very similar, heightened — scary, you know. Because the dolphins and sea lions, especially the dolphins, they’re moving way offshore, miles and miles and miles. So those animals are more likely to be bathed in whatever — if there is significant levels of radiation to cause that — they’re more likely to be bathed on a chronic long-term level in that stuff, because they’re out in that… So we’re getting different types of exposure between the marine mammals and starfish. I can’t say anything, because it’s not, and this is where I wish — I’m looking forward to seeing what reports we get from the scientists that are just meeting to assess this… [Sea stars are] not like the big tuna that are starting to show signals of radiation. They’re not like dolphins or whales that are transiting the ocean waters all the time to areas that are closer to Japan.”

Santa Cruz Hilltromper, Aug 13, 2014: The Summer of Crazy Monterey Bay is a strange place these days…. WTF, Monterey Bay? It’s like we don’t even know you anymore. Why is our beloved Bay suddenly so moody?… All the bay’s food, including the whale food, is concentrated near the shore [in a] very narrow feeding corridor… there isn’t much food along the Pacific Coast anywhere [and] the whales and other animals may be here, [MBARI’s resident nutrient monitor Ken Johnson] says, “because there’s no food anywhere else.”… Del Monte Beach was green… sea lettuce, from Sand City to Monterey, folks were a little freaked out… Mike Graham, an associate professor at Moss Landing Marine Laboratories, has seen similar events, though admittedly slightly smaller… So while primary (plankton), secondary (anchovy), and tertiary (whales and such) production has been crammed into the narrow strip of nutrient-rich waters by the shoreline, there isn’t much happening farther out in the bay.

Andrew DeVogelaere, Research Coordinator for the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary: “Unfortunately we don’t understand the ocean well enough to be able to tell you with certainty what’s happening as it’s happening”…It’s not so much that there were more animals than normal… they were packed in close by the shoreline… action (i.e. whale sightings) was pretty slow offshore… “Strange days in the Monterey Bay right now. It’s not the normal year by any means… Lots of mysteries to solve. It’s like the CSI of the sea.”

Full interview with Milligan available here

Published: August 30th, 2014 at 12:39 pm ET


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  • combomelt combomelt

    "I can’t say anything, because it’s not, and this is where I wish"

    wth does that mean?

    • amberlight amberlight

      I only listened to the first couple of minutes of the video (nothing to see), because my internet connection is so horse-and-buggy (and the phone interview seems pretty hokey), but here is my take on the transcript excerpt:

      "I can’t say anything, because it’s not, and this is where I wish" is followed by the thought rephrased. That is how a transcript of live conversation often looks, including hesitations and incomplete sentences as people try to frame their thoughts. A lifetime of watching teevee sitcoms and soap operas condition us to think that nobody ever hiccups or hesitates while talking and every comment has a snappy comeback.

      Sooo, I think we should cut the lady some slack. Just because Kristen Milligan is a marine ecologist doesn't mean she is an expert on the effects of a massive onslaught of radiation. Who is? It's all guesswork right now for many researchers because even they are not being told the truth. Being confined to their specialty makes the whole affair resemble the blind men and the elephant.

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    • We Not They Finally

      Well having "lost in Paradise" morph into "Paradise Lost" probably got her somewhat dyxlexic….

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Just me putting thought bubbles out there…

      "I can’t say anything, because it’s not, and this is where I wish"

      My fill in the blank thought bubbles come up with something like: ? I can't say anything, because I'm not allowed to say it's the radiation, and I might lose my job if I do. Because I can't (and I wish I could) say, I hope some scientists' reports coming out will because, I am so pissed about the muzzle I want to bite someone, and can hardly finish a sentence, and I hope my hair looks nice.

      I wonder just how much professionals can say here in the U.S. about radiation concerns. She probably is a Dana, the Nuclear Proctologist fan. He just blurts out whatever is on his mind, and backs up and half ass tries to smooth it over. He doesn't have a professional job loss to worry about. He's lucky, in that regard.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      combomelt, my guess is, she's trying to follow protocol. She's working with scientific peers, and it's really important she not make any statements that might jeopardize their reporting. They need to conclude their investigations and share their research results, reach conclusions.

      I'm sure she doesn't want to make statements that might be misconstrued. I wouldn't worry too much; it wasn't my perception she is hiding anything. It's just awkward when you're asked to make statements and have to weigh that along with considering the consensus of your peers. She probably just doesn't want to say anything that isn't accurate, or that might reflect poorly on whatever their official position might be.

      Am pretty sure we'll know what that is, soon. Hang tight!

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        I'm also anxious to know what the scientists will have to say when they conclude their meetings. Very curious.

    • name999 name999

      combomelt, the CSI of the oceans? What fools ad liars.

      This is just more tears. Unbelievable.

  • combomelt combomelt

    "This is also very weird… not sure exactly why it’s happening"

    genius J.!

    • nohobear nohobear

      I'm with you combo. I want to scream. Can these jackass "scientists" even string together a coherent sentence!!!!!! Yeah, it's a real mystery.


      I swear I'm not a violent person by nature, but the level of incompetence, duplicity, and heartlessness being exhibited by the Fukushima coverup is radicalizing me.

      • alasanon

        Amen!! These people give every branch of Science a VERY BAD NAME!!

        It goes beyond offending scientific principles. It's an affront to the most basic concept of reason and commonsense!!! >:/

        Funny enough, in daily life, I find that some of the brightest, most scientific minds are most inclined to dismiss this nuclear disaster phenomenon. I know how smart they are and I'm astonished. Total blackout for those who have the know-how to effectively do something about it, for sure.

  • combomelt combomelt

    “Unfortunately we don’t understand the ocean well enough to be able to tell you with certainty what’s happening as it’s happening”
    "Lots of mysteries to solve. It’s like the CSI of the sea.”
    piss me off
    worthless jackass "scientists"

    • We Not They Finally

      They don't know the ocean well enough to at least know what is DEAD?

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      It is true that we know very little about our oceans and in some respects know more about apace where I'd like to send a few pro nuke folks. Oh no I don't really mean that as I still hope a miracle exists but as Bob Dylan sings " it's not dark yet but it's getting there"

  • CSI Pacific. New cop show to bring nuketards to justice…hmmmm

    • The oceans, normally average a pH of about 8.1. The ideal pH for blood sits at about 7.4, slightly alkaline, but not acidic.

      Early/Preventative cancer info for bi carb Ph. dietary chemo so important in immune tolerance in this acidic, carcinogenic soup we have made of Earth's oceanic systems.

      • We Not They Finally

        Dr. Mark Sircus recommends baking soda highly as a preventative against cancer. He's a really good guy, wants everyone to have effective methods at home that they can do.

        • It takes so many things to be healthy, all supplied by Nature, and given automatically to someone living in harmony with Nature.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          I just eat an alkaline diet.

          If the algae from Maine starts having a lot of neurotoxic acids, it will be all over for me. I need seaweed for the iodine.

          What are iodine supplements made out of anyway?

          • Depends, some are 'natural' sources such as kelp, etc.

            Some are chemical iodine KI tablets, made in a lab and synthetic. Usually prescription but not always.

            Source matters nowadays… ask before purchase.

            Avoid sourced foods and supplements from areas near major nuclear emissions or disasters, such as;

            France reprocessing plant
            Japan, Fukushima
            Chernobyl, Belarus, etc.

            Ask if they test the sea vegetables for radiation. It helps if they do, or test it yourself with a pancake style detector.

          • 4Yahshua

            9~31~5995 (out of 6000) in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!
            Nuclear Winter NOT Summer! Last evil days of "Manmean".
            Yes! Yahshua the Messiah returns VERY SOON! HalleluYah!

            Vanne, It was recommended that we take at least 12 mg. capsule of iodine daily (for thyroid), one capsule of boron (to rid body of radiation) and others like Green Tea Extract, Vitamin C (no more than 2000 mg. @ a time), and Vitamin D3 (5000 i.u. is good, no toxic level in this form) Swanson Vitamins. I give the boron (in pet food) and food grade iodine drops in pets' water. 85 year old hubby and me (66) live about 6 miles from the beach in Huntington Beach in Southern CA and we MEAN TO SURVIVE!

  • combomelt combomelt

    "There’s all these different stresses happening, and certainly Fukushima is one of them.”

    ty, a sliver of sanity

    • cosmic charlie cosmic charlie

      One of these stresses is not like the others……maybe if we had the sesame street folks sing it to the scientists they would comprehend it?

      Having enjoyed living in San Diego just prior to FD I would like to go back and take a look at the ocean. Particularly by La Jolla where I recall it was vibrant and teaming with life. Hard to get a read on it from the media.

    • ISeePinkClouds

      @ Jebus "Yes, of course I can, I can do anything; I'm an expert." Funny! I see Kristen Milligan in there somewhere too. "There's all these stresses happening and certainly Fukushima is one." Remember, she's a SCIENTIST. They are learned. No need to guess. They just know these things. But don't get too excited, it is only one of the different stresses. It will take a lot of time, and grant money, to determine what the other different stresses are, and how they play a role. "I can't say anything, but it's not, and this is where I wish-". Thank you for weighing in on the subject Kristen. And we have other scientists waiting to offer their expertise as well…but time marches on, and we really don't have time for their BS either. Dennis the Menace to Joey shortly after he dumps an unwrapped frozen fish into the bathtub: "See Joey, once they're dead, they're they're dead." Now that's science. peace

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Can you build a safe power plant?


      Can you make it nuclear?

      Yes, but then it will no longer be safe.

      Dammit, don't be hasty.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Great one, Jebus. One does have to wonder when they'll get around to connecting some of the dots.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    “These are kind of strange days in the Monterey Bay right now. It’s not the normal year by any means,” sums up DeVogelaere. “Lots of mysteries to solve. It’s like the CSI of the sea, and putting these puzzles together can be really rewarding when they get figured out.” Nothing like a little mystery to keep the romance alive. -"

    Andrew Devogelaere …so removed giddy.

    • yeah… so, golly, just so exciting … watching the demise of so many species…

    • andagi andagi

      Dear Heart of the Rose,
      'No U.S. government or international agency is monitoring the spread of low levels of radiation from Fukushima along the West Coast of North America and around the Hawaiian Islands. The Center for Marine and Environmental Radioactivity (CMER) at WHOI, a private non-profit marine research and education organization, is launching a project to involve the public in gathering seawater samples and raising funds for analyses that will provide the latest information about radiation levels in the ocean. The data will be published on a website, “How Radioactive is Our Ocean?”

      How Is Fukushima's Fallout Affecting Marine Life?
      By David Pacchioli

      Take good care Heart.

      Aloha 🙂

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        Hi Andagi ..As a matter of fact. I'm currently wondering what to wear to the rodeo.. tomorrow.
        Kinda frilly ..kick a little dirt .. a little hat waving in the stands …(drink that yearly half beer)
        I remember grandfather at calf roping ..skinny old man ..could run like all 'get out'.

        Good clean living people ..if they only knew.
        If they only knew that some of us truly tried to defend this way of life..

        Only to be labeled (—–) ?.(fill in the blank)

        • OMG the F bomb word…

          Nothing but F this and F that, but little or no REAL or meaningful information.

          mysteries abound..

          The only thing known for sure, is people are not smiling enough..

          That is what is to blame for all of our problems.

          So say the experts.

        • andagi andagi

          …only to be labeled -wonderful! 🙂
          Have a great time!
          Aloha 🙂

      • Do you trust them?

        Why (WHOI) Woods Hole And Ken Buesseler Ocean Water Testing For Radiation Is Not Worth Supporting Financially

        • These folks are pimps, they already stated their conclusion before data was in.

        • I take some hope in the volunteer testers. If their results aren't being included, they will know and eventually speak out. This can be combined with the many volunteers starting to go out into the Pacific and test for themselves at various levels, including sailors and divers. We may not get accurate information if the results are ALL repressed, but, we will get a heads up that data is being manipulated. That is more than we have now. It was the same with Chernobyl.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        andagi..Nice! 🙂

      • Thank you for these great links, Andagi. May i add that the biologist stated that there was no known measured radiation plume reading the sea stars on the West Coast in 2013. I very much doubt that she is aware of last week's report about the air plume being 500 times higher than initially reported, which fell all along the coastline in 2011. No measurements were taken of sand nor sea at that time. That dose was probably bigger than what is now arriving. So, this speaks to the compartmentalization and the assumption that someone had been thoroughly testing all along. It is assumed by media and scientific institutions alike that the absence of any reports regarding testing is due to there being nothing to test for rather than no tests being done at all. I am glad that testing is now starting up.

  • I feel a breakthrough in information coming on….

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      We can see that happening in the past few weeks .
      There are far more scientists stepping up to the plate as well
      These are the reports that the general public tend to put more and more stock into
      We here are aware
      We here have worked hard getting info out and some scientists are listening , social media connects us all
      Can't hide it anymore the tides they are a changing
      The deniers are spinning Thier wheels furiously attempting to use word play to confuse but it's not working .
      We will see it when the editorials in the Sunday papers debating us
      We need to arm ourselves with facts to enter the debate not suppositions and fear porn , tread softly and do your homework
      They will continue to here us that way

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        With not when

      • "There are far more scientists stepping up to the plate as well"

        I noticed… so glad to see

        "We will see it when the editorials in the Sunday papers debating us"

        Awesome fodder potential.

        • earthsmith earthsmith

          Stepping up to bring forth the apologists.

          The ones that like to say things like…we had no idea or there is no way we could have predicted that or my favorite….well the data was flawed so…

  • Jebus Jebus

    Here's the most recently funded magical mystery tours…

    This cleverly wordcrafted Carbonaceous Components one is interesting.

    Proposal Abstract:

    The objective of the project is to increase our knowledge of carbonaceous aerosols reaching Canada from natural and man-made sources. Chemical signatures in the carbonaceous PM will be used to differentiate between pollution transported from the local sources of carbonaceous PM, some of which are natural sources (marine, vegetative biogenic, and forest fires) and some of which are distant anthropogenic sources.

    You have to word it right when you type it into the funding machine or you get an error.

    Thats what the experts are for…

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Jebus I feel it cannot hurt to give them samples
      We must do what we can
      We must demand to see how the studies are conducted as well and have other scientist either endorse or expose the methods used

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        yes clamsheller, if only everyone along the pacific rim would send them something dead….as much dead sample material as possible. All the more important since they are unable to collect samples themselves

        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          I think they give you a kit of some kind to send the sample and this one does not cost any money to the public .
          It cannot hurt to participate
          We need to demand to know what the study entails , we need to have it peer reviewed ..we need to demand unbiased study , when I say study I am talking intensive laboratory work ..

  • Bay Area Guy 2

    I was just down in Monterey this past week. I can attest to the fact that there are far more whales closer to shore Han I've ever heard of and this has been pretty consistent all year. Tour boats have been selling out every tour every day and they are always having multiple sightings on each trip. Closer to home, there was a huge die-off of sardines in Foster City Lagoon about two weeks ago. Water levels in the lagoon are regulated by gates opening out into San Francisco Bay. The sight of thousands of dead sardines was off-putting to say the least and articles I read don't seem to say how common this is (or isn't). I've lived in the SF Bay Area my whole life and I don't recall this happening, particularly not in Foster City Lagoon.

    Earlier this year, I noticed huge flocks of sea birds at Ocean Beach in San Francisco over two or here consecutive says, followed by none for a few days then back to relatively normal levels. Fukushima is certainly one thing going on here, but I think the article is correct in saying there are a number of factors here, and ain't none of them good.

  • Cdog Cdog

    My opinion is that eventually all three 300 tons of coria will be eventually diluted via the ocean. They are now impossible to contain, and based on science, all three have left the buildings a long time ago. We know the core are gone because of documented releases of short term isotopes (Xenon, etc…) which means at least one is bubbling and splitting away. As I'm sure everyone here knows the criticality's mean heat of 5000F and more which means the foot of steel and 12 feet or so of cement underneath has very little chance. Unlike Cherynobl the corium has little if any lateral options as their's no maze of rooms underneath to help split up the cores. Water cooling these amorphous blobs has always been ineffective. At Fuku its just bedrock and eventually the aquifer/ocean.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      There is no bedrock, per se, under the plant.

      Unconsolidated shales and sandstone, I think someone here in the know said. And some landfill. But nothing so solid as "bedrock" would imply.

      "In stratigraphy, bedrock is consolidated rock underlying the surface of a terrestrial planet, usually the Earth. Above the bedrock is usually an area of broken and weathered unconsolidated rock in the basal subsoil. The top of the bedrock is known as rockhead and identifying this, via excavations, drilling or geophysical methods, is an important task in most civil engineering projects. Superficial deposits (also known as drift) can be extremely thick, such that the bedrock lies hundreds of meters below the surface."

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Plus the ground is all fractured from the big 3/11 EQ, all the aftershocks and additional earthquakes. It appears the underground coria are causing steam vents to form, further fracturing the ground. The ground around the plant is more or less liquefied.

        Wish I had the geological data. Someone here has it; I just don't have a link to it right now. It shows the plan siting information, including the soil and subsoil data.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          BTW, CDog, I basically agree with you re: the coria.

        • Liquification has been my thought too. (spellcheck says that isn't a word, lol) It happens from far less dramatic tremors and less extra water than the mega punches continuing at Fukushima.

          I have a feeling the nuker folks at the top have all kinds of solid information showing them exactly what's happening to the ground the plant sits on. Giant layers of hot stuff oozing into more layers of hot stuff.

          Tepco you get the *Betty Crock of Shit* award.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Hello LastChants Teri, liquefaction is a geology and seismology term. Yes, one of those thingies invented by scientists. So let's all go gimble in the wabe and celebrate creative use of language.

            There were some articles posted here shortly before you joined us discussing how the ground was suspected of becoming liquefied under the plant.

            Liquefaction occurs when extreme ground movement causes the ground, which normally acts like a solid, to act as if it is liquid. Sometimes liquid is forced out of the spaces in rock and soil when this happens.

            There is some really good video on YouTube showing the ground being liquefied when the great quake hit Japan on 3/11.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Um, you might have already been posting. But that's my recollection anyway. Cheers.

            • So, then HT and LCTNE, this liquefaction would allow the corias to descend with greater ease with each quake if the quake was seismically strong enough to liquify the ground beneath the reactors? Kinda like quicksand or something? And, of course, each time they move and shift, they reshape based upon what they encounter, in this case, something akin to voids, and that could lead to more re-fissioning.

        • PlowboyGrownUp

          Taters "the ground around the plant is more or less liquified"
          Makes sense if groundwater flowing towards the sea is upwelling in that area – the quicksand effect.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        The Geology of Fukushima
        By Pierre Fetet, posted in Le blog de Fukushima
        Translation from French: Robert Ash

  • Cdog Cdog

    Anyone please feel free to correct these numbers if they are incorrect:

    Background radiation used to be: .015 micro seiverts

    1/2 .007 was from the sun: Neutron and Gamma radiation, not beta or alpha because of natural defenses.

    1/2 was .007 from deposits of uranium, radium, and the accumulation of all the nuclear tests and other pollution.

    Now in Japan it .030 micro at least and varies up to 0.12 micro throughout the day.

    at .030 your not only getting 4 times the radiation that people were getting in 1944 but it's all four types instead of just two out of four.

    And as if that's not bad enough background quickly becomes internal.

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Fukushima’s Forgotten Radionuclides: A Review of the Understudied Radioactive Emissions – Environmental Science & Technology (ACS Publications)
      In environmental monitoring campaigns for anthropogenic radionuclides released in the course of the Fukushima nuclear accident (2011), most focus had been on gamma-emitting radionuclides. More than 99% of the released activity was due to radionuclides of the elements Kr, Te, I, Xe, and Cs. However, little work had been done on the monitoring of radionuclides other than 131I, 132Te, 134Cs, 136Cs, and 137Cs. Radionuclides such as those of less volatile elements (e.g., 89Sr, 90Sr, 103Ru, 106Ru, plutonium), pure beta-emitters (3H, 14C, 35S), gaseous radionuclides (85Kr, 133Xe, 135Xe) or radionuclides with very long half-lives (e.g., 36Cl, 99Tc, 129I, some actinides such as 236U) have been understudied by comparison. In this review, we summarize previous monitoring work on these “orphan” radionuclides in various environmental media and outline further challenges for future monitoring campaigns. Some of the understudied radionuclides are of radiological concern, others are promising tracers for environmental, geochemical processes such as oceanic mixing. Unfortunately, the shorter-lived nuclides of radioxenon, 103Ru, 89Sr and 35S will no longer exhibit detectable activities in the environment. Activity concentrations of other radionuclides such as tritium, 14C, or 85Kr will become blurred in…

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Humans are cooking themselves and the rest of the planet.. 🙁

        No badges for you!

        No ice for you!

        Get out of the Sun now!
        You do not need it anymore.
        Because Fukushima is cooking you even when your in the shade..
        Oh..OK..Thank you sir!

        • Take your choice, either internal grilling and sizzling, or…

          internal radioactive machine gun bullets firing away on an atomic level. They are firing non stop in all directions, killing cells and maiming the DNA in a genocidal war against your cells.

        • andagi andagi

          Dear obewanspeaks,
          Here in PNW have accepted all info the fine folks here at wonderful ENENews have steadfastly provided. Hence,'andagi', a delicious fried pastry doused in sugar.
          You all have helped me learn and focus the rest of my life. Have been a healthcare professional more than 36yrs and am still working full time. I deeply care about this issue and the insanity.
          'My inconceivable meter keeps needing recalibrating!!'
          All I can do is keep providing professional care/comfort to those in need and their families and do my best to keep current yet keep my head on straight 🙂
          Thank you for all that you do obeonespeaks and everyone. Thank you ENENews for encouraging and allowing truths to be known.
          Folks keep reading, posting and sharing wonderful ENENews -generating change worldwide, 24/7 🙂

    • Background Radiation Has Increased 600 Percent – 1 mSv In 1950 To over 6 mSv In 2014; Where Is This Coming From?

  • On the one hand I appreciate the mere willingness to discuss Fukushima fallout effects by Kristen

    On the other hand, there seems to be a deliberate effort to DENY FALLOUT FROM WET DEPOSITION from the SPRING OF 2011

    Study on radioiodine in CA coastal kelp, reported that a high of 40 MBq 131I , or 40,000,000 Bq/kg of Iodine-131 had been detected in one bed of Macrocystis pyrifera off the coast of Southern California in the summer of 2011. (Manley & Lowe, 2012)

    “In fact, the values that we reported for iodine probably underestimate what was probably in there. It could be two to three times more because we were just sampling the surface tissue; the biomass estimates were based on canopy tissue and a lot of kelp biomass is underneath. “ (cited in Study Finds, 2012)

    • Scientists and other authorities are denying radiation effects by saying there couldn't have been enough contamination in 2011 to cause observed adverse mortality events (e.g., Pinniped wasting syndrome) because the OCEAN PLUME has just begun to arrive in 2014.



      Manley, S. and C. Lowe (6 March 2012) ‘Canopy-Forming Kelps as California’s Coastal Dosimeter: 131I from Damaged Japanese Reactor Measured in Macrocystis Pyrifera’, Environmental Science & Technology,

      Study Finds Radioactive Fallout in California Kelp Beds’ (5 April 2012), Everything Long Beach,, date accessed 6 April 2012.

      • The US Geological Survey had this to say about Iodine-131 fallout Spring 2011:

        [excerpt]I-131 was quantified and adjusted for decay to the time of sample collection for five whole-water wet-deposition samples from California, Colorado, and Washington. The activities of the quantified I-131 ranged from 29.6 to 1,090 pCi/L, and calculated deposition values ranged from 211 to 5,100 Bq/m2.

        Several weeks transpired between sample collection and analysis of the I-131 in the water samples, which were prioritized for analysis from west (high priority) to east (low priority). Therefore, I-131 activities likely decayed in most of the samples before they could be measured. [end] (page 26)

        IMPORTANT: Note that the passage states that there measured I-131 levels were probably vastly undercounted since I-31 has an 8 day half-life.

        If the measured level 21 days after capture was 5,100 Bq/m2, what would the original figure have been??????

        I bet that with other radionuclides the levels of contamination at day one exceeded the IAEA's definition of contamination at 40,000 Bq/m2

        G. Wetherbee, et al., (2012) ‘Fission Products in National Atmospheric Deposition Program-West Deposition Samples Prior to and Following the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant Incident, March 8-April 5, 2011’, U. S. Geological Survey Open-File Report 2011, 1277,

        • The official Fukushima story spun by governments and captured scientific and public health authorities is full of contradictions, omissions, mis-directions, and outright lies.

          Majia Holmer Nadesan

          • clamshellernh clamshellernh

            Ya think?

            • Scientists studying radiation in fish, food, air, water, plants; they wouldn't DARE lie, confuse or obfuscate, would they?

              Maybe they are just confused, because they KNOW radiation did not come from Fuku, and it cannot harm anyone, and smiling protects you, no matter what.

              So why bother even trying to detect it or report on it, if it makes no difference one way or the other?

              Might as well just spray the nuclear waste over cities as one proponent wanted to do..


          • Socrates


            Richard Wilcox mentions in his articles posed on

            Wet deposition of 134/137Cs was found over on the West Coast in 2011. 131I packs a wallop on fetal thyroids. Now, I am ttod that neutrons along with the 35S that was measured at Scripps Pier in 2011 were another factor.

            None of these radionuclides are inclusive of what blew across the Pacific, or of what has been carried across in the currents such as buckyballs, etc.

            High-potency fertilizers increase nitrogen in the oceans. Algae species that are toxic thrive on the 8x concentrations. The oceans are warmer and more acidic. Vast dumping and extraction of sea foods makes the die-off problem more acute. Methane vents are opening up with sulphur due to forces on the core of the earth. We are experiencing changes in the ozone layer, more UV, more cosmic rays and particles because of the weakening of the magnetosphere.

            It is a possibility, though, that the Sixth Great Extinction might be arriving even if man was still a primate. It blame mankind for much of this. It requires knowlegde in astrophysics, geology, marine biology, etc. to really attribute the causes in the right proportions.

            • I think it's here….

              Where did you read about the neutrons measured at Scripps pier?

              Was that finding actually published with the study on 35S?

              Should I go back and read it again?

              • freebywill

                @majia re: 'about the neutrons measured at Scripps pier '


                " there are no quantitative estimates of the neutron flux leakage during the weeks following the earthquake. Here, using measurements of radioactive 35S contained in sulfate aerosols and SO2 gas at a coastal site in La Jolla, California, we show that nearly 4×10 [E] 11 neutrons per m2 leaked at the Fukushima nuclear power plant before March
                20, 2011 "

                maybe the wording Socrates used implies that neutrons were detected at the pier but I'm not sure that's what he really meant.

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              Nuclear radionuclides make the ocean more acidic.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                “There is a problem, all right, but it is not from CO2. The main cause of increased acidity of sea water is radioactivity from all the nuclear waste dumped into the oceans, nuclear-powered ships passing through the water, and fallout falling into the water from all the things the nuclear industry and armed forces of the nuclear-armed nations are doing, including the use of radioactive ammunition in wars around the world and for target practice at home.

                “It has been known since the early 1950s that radioactivity in high concentrations makes water acidic. The attempt to blame this pending catastrophe on the "greenhouse gases" boogyman of the moment is a distraction from the real, manmade cause that portends a catastrophe of global proportions, but has little or nothing to do with CO2.

                “For more details, see:
                Posted by Joel Carlinsky on 22 Nov 2011

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                reprinted with permission from
                No Immediate Danger, Prognosis for a Radioactive Earth, by Dr Rosalie Bertell
                “…The Nevada nuclear tests have spread radiation poisons throughout central and eastern United States and Canada, and produced in the stratosphere a layer of radioactive material which encircles the globe. They also cause nitric oxides to form in the atmosphere which then descend on earth as acid rain….”

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                reprinted with permission from
                No Immediate Danger, Prognosis for a Radioactive Earth, by Dr Rosalie Bertell
                “…Workers, military service personnel and the general public have been given the impression that exposure to radiation involves a slight risk of dying of cancer and that one's chances of escaping this are better than the chances of escaping an automobile accident. The probabilities of early occurrence of heart disease, diabetes mellitus, arthritis, asthma or severe allergies — all resulting in a prolonged state of ill health — are never mentioned. Most people are unaware of the fact that ionising radiation can cause spontaneous abortions, stillbirths, infant deaths, asthmas, severe allergies, depressed immune systems (with greater risk of bacterial and viral infections), leukaemia, solid tumours, birth defects, or mental and physical retardation in children….”

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                  Why Ebola is spreading exponentially: ionizing radiation causes "depressed immune systems (with greater risk of bacterial and viral infections)".

                  Nuclear energy and nuclear weapons including DU is positively nuts. Also DU in the roads in the central portion of the US is also totally nuts. Nuclear waste is completely nuts. Storage in casks is the best there is, but the casks don't really last for 100 years. Who is going to be paying for and moving the nuclear waste to new casks? Is this the world we want to pass on to our grandchildren, assuming that they even are able to live that long? Wake up politicians if you want to survive nuclear radiation poisoning which is already here.

                  • Arizonan Arizonan

                    They said in the news recently that Ebola is also mutating very quickly. They now have over 100 genetic variants.

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    Hello, Anne. I suspect Lyme disease has also become very widespread, along with the increases in autoimmune and immune disorders, largely due to our getting hammered with ionizing radiation.

          • Socrates


            Richard Wilcox mentions in his articles posed on

            Wet deposition of 134/137Cs was found over on the West Coast in 2011. 131I packs a wallop on fetal thyroids. Now, I am ttod that neutrons along with the 35S that was measured at Scripps Pier in 2011 were another factor.

            None of these radionuclides are inclusive of what blew across the Pacific, or of what has been carried across in the currents such as buckyballs, etc.

            High-potency fertilizers increase nitrogen in the oceans. Algae species that are toxic thrive on the 8x concentrations of nitrogen compounds from fertilizers. The oceans are warmer and more acidic. Vast dumping and extraction of sea foods makes the die-off problem more acute. Methane vents are opening up with sulphur due to forces on the core of the earth. We are experiencing changes in the ozone layer, more UV, more cosmic rays and particles because of the weakening of the magnetosphere, which would normally draw these rays and particles to the poles.

            It is a possibility, though, that the Sixth Great Extinction might be arriving even if man was still a primate. It blame mankind for much of this. It requires knowlegde in astrophysics, geology, marine biology, etc. to really attribute the causes in the right proportions.

            The question becomes one of what can be done about it, if anything.

            • We Not They Finally

              Most people do not even realize, but the UV radiation alone is deadly. That's UV-B (UV-A is normal sunshine.) Dane Wigington ( goes into that at length. How the UV-B in the air has increased more than ten-fold, is killing off vegetation and harming human skin.

              All things work together for bad, it seems. But it's worth the education on these so-called "side topics."

          • Socrates


            How Badley is Fukushima Radiation Damaging The Pacific Ocean? By Richsrd Wilcox, PhD 8-30-14

            Richard Wilcox mentions Majia in his article.

            • We Not They Finally

              Dana of beautifulgirlbydana is doing AMAZING documentary work on damage to the western Canadian coast. It all becomes very real. Somehow he also makes it entertaining. (I mean HE'S entertaining.) Keeps one a bit more sane listening to him.

              • clamshellernh clamshellernh

                This is new and very well done by those in the Fukushima response group

                It's not very long


                Uploaded on Aug 28, 2014Discussion of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear disaster and its effects on North America and the rest of the globe, featuring Charlie Vaughn and John Bertucci on the Toxic-Free Future show hosted by Greg Krause on KZYX Mendocino Country Public Broadcasting.

                Dana sure is a character but he has made some very informative videos that we can all learn from

              • lucius.cornelius

                That video of the "lifeless 200 miles of Canadian coast" has been debunked. Further, it would appear (though I may be wrong about this) that the person concerned (Dana) has begun to indulge in some very threatening and repulsive behaviour towards the person who has busted the original video.



                This is what I had feared – some people have jumped on the bandwagon and are playing around with hysterical allegations. This is extremely damaging to the cause for truth. If people go about saying "oh woe the Pacific is dead" and it's not, any other claims as to the seriousness of our situation will be taken less seriously if not rejected outright.

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  Seems I see a little tiny bit of life and that is a good thing…better than nothing. 🙂

                  No birds.. though.. strange. If fish were truly abundant then wouldn't birds be abundant near the shoreline too? I like dragon flies..

                  Did I miss the birds somehow in her response video?

                  • The truth will prevail eventually.

                    A lie can get around the world 40 times in 40 days, before truth even gets out of bed.

                    Who will agree to look at and study all of the sea life from Alaska to Mexico and the effects of radiation on the food web, via bio accumulation and bio concentration, including humans?

                    Any volunteers?

                    So far, no one signed up, except Dana..

                    He may not be perfect, (who is?), but then again, what other choice have we got?

                    WHOI? messing around with buckets of ocean water via public donation?

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    The birds come (seagulls, diving birds, pelicans) when the bait fish are around. There will be swarms of birds when large schools of small fish are present. And also larger fish seeking to prey on the small fish.

                    It can be quite entertaining to watch the feeding frenzy when there is a school of bait fish near one's boat or the shore.

                • J.

                  I am not able to comment on the claimed debunking because I do not have time to research it properly. However, given the repeated posting of nonsense in this forum — disturbingly ludicrous disinformation — by the same person, it seems reasonable to wonder whether the same behavior is in evidence.

                  You are correct: this kind of misinformation/disinformation is detrimental to serious communication. Administrator: please be aware of this.

        • jec jec

          Majia, make it about 20,000 +. And it can be figured by backwards figuring on the likely flight path..taking 1/2 life of 8 days for I-131. 10K in Eastern USA. Used the figures from Europe..figured a path over USA thru London to Scandinavia..about right I think. Posted the math somewhere last month or so.

        • These lying pigs are guilty of crimes against humanity.

          all they had to do was say "stay out of the rain" for a massive dose reduction.

          yet they played the economic hit man game….don't scare the sheeple.

      • jec jec

        They left out the AIR part of contamination…DUH..guess they didnt want the general public to know they were being radiated. The public DOES have access to health insurance. Wonder if the threat of Fukushima caused cancers were used to convince elected officials to VOTE for the Obamacare bill….??

      • We Not They Finally

        Apparently, the MOX fuel alone in reactor 3 blown sky-high, filtering down INTO the ocean ALL ACROSS THE WORLD, has been more than enough to kill off huge swaths of marine life, plant and animal both. Reality check: Radiation hardly just swims, it also flies.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Yes, denial re: the plume, even despite data from the NOAA Hysplit model.

        "Gov’t model shows airborne radioactive plume covering entire west coast of US & Canada on Mar 22, 2011… 10 times more radioactive than plume coming from Fukushima plant on same day — Radiation levels in some plumes had no discernible decrease after crossing Pacific (VIDEO)"

        The Hysplit model:

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          " …. The Committee Report detailed the amendments considered as adopted if and when the bill passed the full House in Parts A & B; it provided the Stupak–Pitts Amendment for consideration in Part C as well as the Boehner Amendment, a substitute for the bill, in Part D. The House Resolution outlined the process to be followed for Parts A through D in relation to H.R. 3962 and set the rules for debating the proposed bill.

          The following day, House Resolution 903 was voted on and passed. This, in effect, added the amendments outlined in Rules Committee Report No. 111-330, Parts A & B, to H.R. 3962. Part C, the Stupak–Pitts Amendment, was brought up, considered and passed. Part D, the Boehner Substitute Amendment, was then brought up, considered but failed passage.

          The newly amended bill eventually passed the House of Representatives at 11:19 PM EST on Saturday, November 7, 2009, by a vote of 220-215. The bill passed with support of the majority of Democrats, together with one Republican who voted only after the necessary 218 votes had already been cast. Thirty-nine Democrats voted against the bill. All members of the House voted, and none voted 'present'."

    • Majia, precisely! But, my guess is that few scientists are even aware of what you speak. The compartmentalization between scientists is more robust than the containment walls of the nuclear reactors themselves.

  • sludge7051-x

    There's a whole Pacific fleet out there, ships and submarines, they must know something.

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  • jec jec

    By the time (Now!) the scientist 'suddenly' realize something is very wrong..its too late to fix. All the governments who ignored the radiation and other 'stresses' should be banned from fishing in ANY Ocean. They have messed up their, really OUR, piece of the world, live without it!!And stop dumping radiation into the air, sea and land, Japan and TEPCO, for starters. But really..if the Pacific is this damaged..we are too late..

    • We Not They Finally

      Certain things they probably can stop. Like mindlessly incinerating nuclear waste, and deliberate dumping at sea. But that's likely just a small part of it. We want them to stop what they can, because then at least they care, and when people go down with a ship, they at least don't want it to be reckless and mindless. They want someone to notice, to care, to act, to not just write humans off as worthless and expendable.

      But then again, part of how we got here in the first place.

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    Scientists are VERY confused. Here are two simple questions that should be asked of all confused oceanographers;

    (1) what was the single largest discharge of poison into the Pacific ocean in known history?

    (2) do you think that poison is poisoning the sea life which we see dying off at an alarming rate since that poison has been entering the Pacific?

    If anyone can simplify this question, it would be a good idea. Its a multi part question which may be too involved for the attention span and comprehension of todays confused scientists.

  • We Not They Finally

    "It’s not the normal year by any means… Lots of mysteries to solve."

    ARE THEY KIDDING?? Two plus two will never equal four? How many "not normal years" will they have to see before it is suddenly "mystery solved"?

    I don't even think that it's just shills. People in denial go into a kind of fog. Whatever they won't see, they can't see, they don't see.

  • Socrates

    It IS a crime scene investigation. Criminal negligence involves a conscious disregard for safety. Fukushima involves that element. Part of the death spiral in the ocean involves Climate change.

    Has anyone read Global Climate Change: a Definitive Essay on the Primary Causes of Global Warming?

    Bill Deagle discusses this with Chris Harris.

    There are many factors involved in climate change. I suspect that the atomic testing would have wiped out the oceans but it did not. Climate change, acidification, and many factors are at work. Fukushima changes the plasma. All bad news. Change the algae species to a toxic one, no food available.

    I would like to hear opinions of others on this.

    • We Not They Finally

      Don't forget GEOENGINEERING — the chemtrails and HAARP and deliberate manipulation of droughts and floods and the like. Look into Dane Wingington. We just discovered him some months back, he is amazingly well-documented and committed and he pieces the puzzles together.

      "Climate change" has been turned into a big inscrutable puzzle, sometimes used to propagandize people into taking all the wrong actions. Wigington gets it straight.

    • No one knows what happened to the oceans with atomic testing, because no one studied that.

      The ocean is so complex, and has so many interlocking pieces in a huge jigsaw puzzle, it would take a huge effort on the part of 1,000,000 biologists, scientists, and more working for a couple of lifetimes, devoted to figuring out the web of life there.

      We know so little about the ocean, it is mostly a vast mystery.

      The best and brightest minds cannot even figure out where the eels breed; the ones that end up in Europe or Japan.

      So how could anyone come up with a conclusion that says definitely, the 2,400 atomic bomb explosions had no effect on the oceans, or the life in it?

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        I've always wondered if part of the massive reef die-offs and diseased reefs weren't due to massive amounts of ionizing radiation entering the world's oceans.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      “…In October 1960, a large amount of radioactive waste was going to be discarded in the Mediterranean Sea by the Commissariat à l'énergie atomique (CEA). The CEA argued that the dumps were experimental in nature, and that French oceanographers such as Vsevelod Romanovsky had recommended it. Romanovsky and other French scientists, including Louis Fage and Jacques Cousteau, repudiated the claim, saying that Romanovsky had in mind a much smaller amount. The CEA claimed that there was little circulation (and hence little need for concern) at the dump site between Nice and Corsica, but French public opinion sided with the oceanographers rather than with the CEA atomic energy scientists. The CEA chief, Francis Perrin, decided to postpone the dump.[9] Cousteau organized a publicity campaign which in less than two weeks gained wide popular support. The train carrying the waste was stopped by women and children sitting on the railway tracks, and it was sent back to its origin….”

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      Environment: The Dying Oceans
      Monday, Sept. 28, 1970

      “Jacques Yves Cousteau, the renowned underwater explorer, has covered 155,000 miles of sea on film-making and oceanographic expeditions during the past 3½-years. Last week in Monte Carlo, he summed up what he had seen in glum, blunt terms: ‘The oceans are in danger of dying. The pollution is general.’
      It was not only the ubiquity of pelagic oil particles that appalled Cousteau and his crew aboard the Calypso. ‘People do not realize that all pollution ends up in the seas. The earth is less polluted. It is washed by the rain which carries everything into the oceans, where life has diminished by… ‘…”,9171,909651,00.html

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      “Dangerous Long-Lasting radioactive pollution and persistent organic pollutants from military and industrial activities have been building up in the oceans since the Second World War, reports KAY WEIR. Moruroa Atoll in the South Pacific is a particular concern with its very large radionuclide contamination from 21 years of underground nuclear test explosions and its potential to leach into the South Pacific Ocean. Scientists warn that the ocean depths may face dangers from long-term contamination as toxins accumulate at very high levels in algae and krill. Ongoing research and monitoring of the many stressors on the oceans is essential.
      “So said Rosalie Bertell, scientist and trenchant critic of the nuclear industry in May 1984 at a conference in Stockholm, Sweden. (1) She went on to say:

      “Manufacturing and testing nuclear weapons requires uranium mining, enrichment plants, nuclear power plants, reprocessing plants and other support industries, each producing their radioactive ‘permissible’ effluence and waste, Dr Bertell reported. The Space Programme, and nuclear-powered ships which routinely discharge toxic radioactive chemical debris into the oceans, poison marine life; under-water and under-ground nuclear testing, and missile testing, have all contributed to the toxic load on the oceans.

      “Seaweed, such as kelp was found to be very good at concentrating nuclear fission products in its cells after the atomic bombing of Nagasaki and was used to help radiation…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        “Seaweed, such as kelp was found to be very good at concentrating nuclear fission products in its cells after the atomic bombing of Nagasaki and was used to help radiation sufferers. Plankton also absorbs and concentrates insecticides and toxic hydrocarbons. Phytoplankton, at the base of the marine food web sustains all life on earth. ‘If we poison it, it will in turn poison the fish and drastically reduce the protein available to sustain mammalian life,’ said Dr Bertell. Because of long-lasting dangers and risks for life caused by widespread nuclear pollution of the oceans and earth, Dr Bertell in 1984 recommended at the Stockholm conference: (1)…”

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      Cousteau protests nuclear test
      Grisanzio, James A.
      PUB. DATE
      November 1995
      Animals;Nov/Dec95, Vol. 128 Issue 6, p6
      Reveals that Jacques Cousteau has resigned as president of the French Council for the Rights of Future Generations. Action from France; Where the action sparked protests; Views from scientists; Plans from French officials; Comments from Cousteau.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      “…5. Cousteau helped stop underwater dumping of nuclear waste.
      Cousteau organized a popular campaign against a French-government plan to dump nuclear waste into the Mediterranean Sea in 1960—and took his fight straight to the president of the republic.
      Cousteau "faced off with General de Gualle in France about the proposed dumping, and he continued to oppose nuclear power," Merriam said.
      "He acknowledged that it was a clean power source and full of possibilities but felt that—as long as we're dealing with waste that we don't know how to handle—we should not pursue it."
      In the end, the train carrying the waste turned back after women and children staged a sit-in on the tracks.…”

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        “…’ I did this three times with success. To push for the Antarctic treaty; to end French nuclear testing in the Pacific; and to promote a new legal concept at the U.N., ‘The Rights of Future Generations.’ We must appeal to the public directly with a powerful message and tie it to a specific action or change in policy. I think this is the only way.’…”

      • J.

        The more I learn about Cousteau, the greater grows my respect. Toward the end of his life, he was profoundly despondent about the state of the oceans. It was all based on hard science and direct observation over decades. We have very little time to stop the madness and start trying to mitigate and ultimately ameliorate environmental damage.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      Environmental Effects of French Nuclear Testing
      The following report has been distributed by the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War and the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research, as a result of renwewed interest in French nuclear testing in the South Pacific. It is an updated version of Chapter 9 from the book "Radioactive Heaven and Earth: the health and environmental effects of nuclear weapons testing, in, on, and above the earth."(New York, Apex Press, 1991)
      “…Physical Damage to the Reef
      “The upper layer of the atoll is made up of reef carbonates, mainly limestone. This limestone cover is approximately 300 meters in the south of the atoll, increasing to 430 – 550 meters in the north. The upper part of this limestone layer is undolomitized and comprises porous coral debris, approximately 125 meters thick. The lower part is dolomitized and therefore quite compact.
      This limestone layer is separated from the underlying volcanic material by a transitional zone of variable thickness, composed mainly of weathered clays. It can vary in thickness from 40 to 45 meters below the atoll to a mere 50 centimeters or even nothing beneath most of the lagoon.
      The clay zone is impervious. The underlying volcanics are initially aerial volcanics, which then change to more homogeneous submarine volcanics at greater depths.
      “Each scientific mission to Moruroa has described severe impairment of the integrity of at least the carbonate part of the atoll…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        “Each scientific mission to Moruroa has described severe impairment of the integrity of at least the carbonate part of the atoll. The damage includes fissures in the limestone and surface subsidences of large areas of the atoll. Fissures are propagated by the testing, a result of the cumulative compacting of the limestone. Fissuring serves to increase lateral and vertical water transport in the carbonate body of the atoll,(24) possibly resulting in more rapid leakage of the fission products. The French authorities claim that no new damage is occurring because the tests are no longer conducted under the reef crown but under the lagoon.(25) This claim is contradicted by underwater observations of the Cousteau mission, which discovered recently fallen noncolonized limestone blocks, suggesting that tests were carried out in the months immediately preceding their arrival and that on-going tests are still damaging the reef. (26)…”
        “• Venting of Gaseous and Volatile Fission Products
        Unusual concentrations of short-lived iodine131 in marine organisms and krypton 85 and tritium in air or water indicate that venting has occurred.
        The scientists of the Australia, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea Mission in 1983 were authorized to carry out a single experiment in situ at Moruroa. Their measurements demonstrated a high level of tritium in the interstitial air of the surface terrain. The measured tritium levels were 500 Becquerels per liter while the expected concentration…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        The measured tritium levels were 500 Becquerels per liter while the expected concentration due to atmospheric fallout should have been in the range of 0.2 Becquerels per liter. The report of this mission offers two explanations for these extremely high unexpected tritium levels: either venting of gaseous tritium directly from underground cavities or a faster ground water flow rate than admitted. (29)
        The venting explanation appears to be more likely, based on findings of Cousteau mission in 1987. Just days after a test, iodine 131 (half life of 8.05 days) was found in all sediment samples. The same mission measured radioactivity of plankton, which is an even better indicator of venting. In plankton, they found an iodine131 concentration of 22,000 picocuries per kilogram, by far the strongest radioactivity found during their mission. The Cousteau report stated that iodine-131 most likely reached the surface via the test bore. The report overlooked the fact that the spot with the maximum iodine131 concentration in sediment was the farthest away from the test site. Nevertheless, because of the short halflife of this radioisotope, its presence could only be attributed to a recent emission. Although authorities at the testing center claimed that this was due to an accidental leak of exceptional character during post-test drilling for purposes of monitoring, the Cousteau Mission was not able to verify that directly.(30) In any case, even such a posttest valve decoupling…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        In any case, even such a posttest valve decoupling accident constitutes a venting phenomenon. The fact that the French did not report this venting accident until forced to do so by having to explain the presence of iodine131 indicates that venting may have been more common than the French nuclear authorities have so far acknowledged.
        In summary, two scientific missions, on which major restrictions were imposed, were still able, independently of each other, to find typical indicators of short-term venting.
        “• Medium and Long-term Leakage of Fission Products to the Biosphere
        According to a model formulated by Hochstein and O'Sullivan (1985), an underground nuclear explosion in rock saturated with seawater can set up an artificial geothermal system. The heat stored in the explosion chamber is on the order of 10E12 calories per kiloton of yield. In addition, heat generation due to radioactive decay goes on after the explosion of fission bombs, at a rate of about 595 calories per second per kiloton of yield. After the explosion, seawater enters the chamber and is heated by about 25o – 50o C by both stored and newly generated heat. The heated seawater dissolves the glassy materials, liberating the nuclear waste.
        “At the same time, the heated seawater sets up an artificial geothermal system, which transfers the dissolved nuclear waste slowly upwards through the extended chimney. While the concentration of the radionuclides decreases by diffusion and absorption, the…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        While the concentration of the radionuclides decreases by diffusion and absorption, the heated cell transferring the radionuclides moves upwards with a speed of about 10 meters per year, according to the computer simulation of Hochstein and O'Sullivan. Under the assumptions of this model, radionuclides from a depth of around 500 meters would reach the cracks of the lagoon in less than 50 years instead of the 500 to 1,000 years assumed by the French authorities.(31)
        A first hint that the model of Hochstein and O'Sullivan might be correct was the discovery of cesium-134 by the Cousteau Mission in 1987.(32) In December 1990, too, Greenpeace found cesium-134 in plankton collected outside the 12-mile exclusion zone around Moruroa.(33) While the measured concentrations of cesium-137 are consistent with the consequences of local and global atmospheric tests, the concentrations of cesium134 are less explicable. Global atmospheric fallout does not contain cesium134, which is produced by the addition of one neutron to the nucleus of stable cesium-133.
        A recent study reviewing the Cousteau Mission's water samples comes to the conclusion that the measured concentrations of cesium-134 are attributable to the underground tests and that only leakage can explain the presence of this radionuclide in Moruroan waters. This study also attempted to identify the source of the leakage by matching the coordinates of French underground tests with the coordinates of the places where…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        . This study also attempted to identify the source of the leakage by matching the coordinates of French underground tests with the coordinates of the places where samples were taken. Leakage is occurring even faster than initially predicted by the model of Hochstein and O'Sullivan (which assumed equal permeability in all directions), probably only six years after a test.(34) Venting, which happens occasionally, may open pathways for more rapid leakage than predicted by the model.
        “The 120 underground tests conducted at Moruroa have in effect turned it into a longterm waste dump. The total amount of plutonium-239 from these tests and the three at Fangataufa is about 18,450 curies, assuming 150 curies per test. Based on a rough estimate of 2.5 megatons total yield of underground tests, the amount of cesium127 and strontium90 dispersed would have been 400,000 curies and 250,000 curies respectively. About three-fourths of the cesium and strontium still remain underground and some may have found its way into the lagoons and ocean. As a repository for nuclear wastes from underground testing, Moruroa is less than ideal. Natural barriers play the most important role in the confinement of nuclear waste.(35) Consequently, a planned storage site should meet very strict criteria including exclusion of water, lack of natural fractures or fissures, and a high absorption of radionuclides. According to these criteria, Moruroa is a very poor choice: the geological structure of…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        According to these criteria, Moruroa is a very poor choice: the geological structure of Moruroa is water-saturated; there are natural fractures as well as a veritable network of fissures due to the explosions. These fissures affect the volcanic layer. Moreover, the absorption coefficient for the basalt of Moruroa as estimated by the French authorities is very low.
        In conclusion, Moruroa Atoll is a very poor site for storing nuclear waste of any type. If certain confinement criteria are considered necessary for the storage of waste from nuclear power stations, the same would be necessary for the storage of waste as a consequence of nuclear explosions. The discovery of cesium-134 indicates only the beginning of longterm leakage from the underground "storage" sites.
        “Transfer of dissolved plutonium from the lagoon to the ocean as a consequence of poor waste management.
        “Radioactive materials deposited on Moruroa have found their way into the lagoon. The land area of Moruroa has been used to store radioactive waste (including metal scrap, wood, plastic bags and clothing) in a huge heap on the north coast of the atoll, which covers 30,000 square meters. In addition, on July 21, 1966 a bomb broke apart on the surface of Moruroa, dispersing plutonium239. This plutonium 239 was confined to the area by fixing it in place with a layer of bitumen. Moruroa was also used as a safety trial area.(36) (A safety trial area is a test to check whether an atomic bomb will explode…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        (A safety trial area is a test to check whether an atomic bomb will explode on impact with a hard surface -as in the event of a plane crash. In the case of a "safe" bomb, or a "successful" safety trial, the impact does not cause a nuclear detonation but breaks apart the bomb, scattering plutonium-239 about the site.) Cyclones hit Moruroa mainly in 1981, washing radioactive waste from the coral rim into the lagoon, including the plutonium-impregnated bitumen.
        Due to these waste management practices, the sediment of the lagoon contains an estimated 20 kilograms of plutonium. At the time the Australian, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea Mission visited Moruroa, plutonium239 concentrations in the air were about 4 times greater than in continental France. The Mission estimated that about 20 gigabecquerels of plutonium from the sediment of the lagoon are transported annually to ocean waters.(37)
        This is consistent with findings of the Cousteau Mission that concentrations of plutonium in the lagoon entrance are about 10 times greater than in the lagoon itself. They also stated that the observed concentrations in the sediment and in the water are much too high to be attributed to global atmospheric fallout and are therefore of local origin and due to remobilization from sedimentary deposits.
        “There is evidence that plutonium-239 is accumulating in the food chain. While the concentration of plutonium-239 and plutonium 240 are around .01 picocuries/liter in the water of…

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          While the concentration of plutonium-239 and plutonium 240 are around .01 picocuries/liter in the water of the lagoon, the respective concentrations for dry sediment are 1,1OO picocuries/kilogram and for dry plankton 9,700 picocuries/kilogram. (Enrichment can be found for cesium 137, also, where the respective concentrations are 0.14 picocuries/liter, 3.5 picocuries/kilogram and 70 picocuries/kilogram.)(38)
          “• Ciguatera Fish Poisoning Due To Changes in Reef Ecology
          Ciguatera fish poisoning, discussed in Chapter 5, is a major public health problem in the South pacific, with nutritional, social, and economic implications. The annual average incidence for the South Pacific area is around 200 cases per 100,000 population per year, but incidences as high as 20,700 per 100,000 population per year are reported for the Gambier Islands.
          A review of the epidemiology of ciguatera in French Polynesia from 1960 to 1984 clearly demonstrates a general flare-up in ciguatera, with more than 24,000 cases among a population that grew from 84,500 in 1962 to 174,000 by mid1985. The incidence rose dramatically through the 1960s, peaking from 1972 to 1975 at 1,200 per 100,000, a tenfold increase over the 1960 figure.(39) Some of this increase may be due to improved case reporting, but this has never been presented as a major reason for the increase. In the areas most affected, the eastern Tuamotu, Gambier, and Marquesas Archipelagos, the incidence in the 1980s remains at high levels…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        the incidence in the 1980s remains at high levels.
        The most important cause of ciguatera outbreaks is the disturbance of the sensitive ecology of the coral reef. Natural events, such as storms, earthquakes and tidal waves, can disturb reef ecology, as can human activities. Nuclear test explosions and the construction of supporting infrastructures have been linked with ciguatera outbreaks.(40) For example, the Tuamotu Archipelago was more or less free of ciguatera before the early 1960's. Epidemiological studies show that in parallel with the installation and running of the test facilities, repeated outbreaks occurred. This is the case for the Hao Atoll (staging base for the testing since 1965, first ciguatera outbreak in 1966), the Gambier Islands (construction of military facilities in 1967, first outbreak in 1968) and Moruroa Atoll (highest density of Gambierdiscus toxicus after the Gambier Islands in 1981 ).(41)
        A study by the US Atomic Energy Commission showed no correlation between radioactivity and ciguatoxicity in fish.(42) It is most likely that ancillary military activities linked to the nuclear testing facilities, like runway construction, waste dumping, ship decontamination, are causing ciguatoxicity by disturbance of reef ecology.”

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        Health and Environmental Effects of Nuclear Weapons Testing In, On, and Above the Earth : A Report of the Ippnw in Paperback – September 1, 1991
        by Anthony Robbins (Author)

  • weeman

    As has been admitted that the majority of the plumb was blown out to sea with the prevailing winds, now ask yourself if each reactors contained a 100 tons of nuclear fuel each and let us be conservative that a third of each was ejected or vapiourized to the environment, what did you expect a picnic?

    • We Not They Finally

      It's a sci-fi horror flick, with some malevolent alien species going "yum-yum." Hard to believe that humans did this. If that's human, what about you and me?

    • just breathe just breathe

      Love picnics weeman!
      Can any of you suggest the right wine to go
      with the metallic taste in my mouth?

      • weegokiburi weegokiburi

        Just breathe Has to be a dry sauvignon blanc.
        It can seem a little metallic sometimes.
        So you won't notice any other metallic tastes.
        Bonus… Actualy one of the few that works with sushi. Although beer is better.

    • Yes, yes, a picnic…

      What is the nuclear industry bringing?

      Such callous coldness, colder than ice, laced with nice doilies and piles of money.

      Such poisonous toppings, worse than cyanide, but goes down smooth.

      Such horrific side dishes, plutonium and strontium, um so yummy.

      Such great desserts, tritium, americium and cesium too. A little goes a looooonnnnnnggggg ways, non fattening too.

      And a free take home service for the other 2,800 radioactive elements that you take with you internally.. so you will NEVER forget this picnic.

  • Sol Man

    Scientists are those specialists that have honed their talents to think over many years of institutionalized learning. But, they have forgotten how to feel!

    So, what should they feel?

    The deep trouble in the depths of their being that some have introduced to all of the living organisms in the world with these to cheap to meter machines. When they meltdown…! Consider the immeasurable risk to all!

    Hey, don't think of that we got production goals to meet!

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Weeman.. We can safely say that it is proven.
    No Scottish verdict on that.

  • ISeePinkClouds

    I actually listened to the interview and found Kristen Milligan to be more intelligent, and informed, than she appears from a few excerpts. I do understand there is a need to be diplomatic as possible when so much is at stake to so many. I am interested in hearing more from her as her colleagues weigh in with their findings. I believe they will find what we already know. peace

  • According to all of the experts, Fuku was just like a human sneezing. Nothing harmful came out.

    Just smile more.


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    Anyone dumb enough to buy Californian produce dumped on the Australian market have themselves to blame.

    Backsliding to consuming fish their own demise.

    I don't trust American produce, full of GMO, irradiation and atomic contamination.

    Californian walnuts, ewwww! Cesium flavoured at no extra cost.

  • Get the rad word out, People!

    Fukushima Business Cards 4 U! And everyone else, too!

    These nifty cards are easy to print and pass out.
    Or leave randomly, where ever you please. Distribute liberally.

    Also … Dana needs YOU!

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    Let the People know, People!!!

  • FXofTruth

    “Unfortunately we don’t understand the ocean well enough to be able to tell you with certainty what’s happening as it’s happening”
    – Statement by Andrew DeVogelaere, Research Coordinator

    Really Andrew?
    Do you live in a box?
    Does a 3-core Japanese nuclear plant meltdown sound familiar?
    Would 100,000,000,000 of tons of deadly, toxic radioactive sea water generated over 3+ years, be able to kill anything in an ocean?
    Does all your college education trigger any neurons to postulate the "remote" possibility that the "R" word might be the "neon highlighted" cause? (Call me crazy but, it has a history of killing things especially people). Many people, who don't accept grant money, seem to believe that radioactive water (that sends their meters off the scale) is causing an extinction level event!

    But, what do non-experts know.
    Grant money has a way of suppressing the ability to tell the truth and use moral judgement.

    Rest assured, there will be a day that you will take your final breath, causing a quick exit from the planet. Within a flash, this will put you in front of the "Big Man" in the clouds, along with others of your kind. A collection of "trusted" experts that were so knowingly and purposefully "staying confused" for financial rewards, but will NOW have to account for their intentional misdeeds.

    After "Judgement", an express elevator will be taking everyone to meet the God of Darkness. You should feel at home in that World with all the other…

    • FXofTruth

      Andrew, I forgot to mention that radiation contamination will be the direct cause of you and many, many people to leave the planet before they should have. You really should help yourself and others by warning them of the pending disaster….

      • melting mermaid melting mermaid

        I think if they even think the R word they get shocked. And when they make it through an interview without mentioning it they get some cheese or a cookie.

  • califnative califnative

    MM – your right about the R word, Jeff Rense says the same thing in this video. It's also about the radiation making it's way to Southern California Catalina Islands and causing a freak lightning storm last month. It's worth watching the whole 17 minute video.

    Jeff Rense & Yoichi Shimatsu – Fukusima Radiation Now On West Coast