Published: January 20th, 2012 at 10:59 am ET
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Title: First photos from inside Fukushima reactor released
Source: AJW by The Asahi Shimbun
Date: January 20, 2012
Location of piping unknown at Reactors 1 and 3
The No. 2 reactor was chosen for the first endoscope survey because radiation levels were comparatively low and the location of the piping used to insert the endoscope was known.
The Future
- TEPCO officials said more detailed analysis and video images would be released after Jan. 20
- A more detailed survey of the inside of the containment vessel is set for about 2017
- A similar survey of the pressure vessel has been set for about 2019
Read the report here
Published: January 20th, 2012 at 10:59 am ET
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I heard a rumor that they are going to send some turtles in next time. They are much slower, and that will be good for publicity. Newspapers can report on each plodding, slow step of the turtle traveling down a 100 meter access tube, with a camera attached to his head.
This turtle cam trip should only take about 10 years, because the chosen turtle takes ‘frequent’ naps, according to the scientists in charge of the turtle cam. He will have to backtrack several times to eat and rest.
Assuming the turtle starts at reactor 2 in 2017, he should reach the inside of the containment vessel in about 2038, in time for his 35th birthday.
Once inside the vessel, the turtle cam is expected to swim to the bottom and show a picture of what is there. Of course if there is no water inside, the turtle will have to crawl backwards out of the pipe, which will take another 30 years, so we can except the turtle to download pictures after he exits in about 2068.
2068 is the year of the Turtle, don’t you know.
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Meanwhile outraged fellow turtles have taken to the streets! The slogan is TOWS: TURTLES OCCUPY WALL STREET!!! the MSM is eerily silent…
2017? I’m glad to see that the Japanese are finally starting to get a sense or urgency with this ELE…
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BEAUTIFUL AGreenRoad,…I can’t help but notice the great legalize loophole you’ve left for the ‘technology’, (cough, cough, wink, wink): ” the turtle cam is expected to swim”.
Wow,…left yourself a nice out there imaginary TEPCO man!
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Spot on AGR. I can see it in my messed up mind VIVIDLY.
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Ohh My I see it too. Those that do manage to escape will be able to join the monkeys.
I know that Occupy Together will embrace the turtles & set up a cozy radiation free encampment.
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So obviously something they found in there prevents them from doing something, and they need to wait five years for things to cool off. What super radioactive things take five years to decay?
Now, what did they find, what were they looking for, and what is it they can’t do for five years?
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That’s an interesting insight, bmurr.
Any techie types who could take that notion further? They must have their reasons, but what the heck are they?
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Hmmn – not to suggest rabbit holes, but the reasons could be techie, cultural, political, financial, whatever….
I suppose it could even just be kicking the can down the road for no reason except they don’t know what else to do, but I think bmurr may be on to something. What, though?
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Or may be they have seen what they needed, and the truth is not for the public, so why not postpone the next step. With years…
The journalists must ask such things, but they rarely do. And more rarely receive consistent answers.
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Well, the corium isn’t in there. Neither is the water they’ve been pouring in. So what’s there to look at?
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Hmmm….the bubble gum they used to seal the hole must have a 5 year lifespan.
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lol
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No Comments? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/health-science-technology/nuclear-aftershocks/gregory-jaczko-what-the-nuclear-regulatory-commission-can-learn-from-fukushima/
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Mine: “There are plenty of people NOW who are carefully documenting and keeping track of the radiation coming from these Reactors. There are citizen volunteers who are monitoring RAD data and posting it online. And the news is not good. What the mainstream press have failed to do, the alternative media are simply getting on and doing. In the absence of an adequate press centre, people have formed their own. So continue to Spin this anyway you like, THE TRUTH will emerge with or without you.
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Just wondering, if there is a possibility of the fuel still being in the pressure vessel – after all, they did choose this one for lower radiation…. I do hope they are doing what it takes to keep that cool too till confirmed.
They say fools and villains are always lucky…
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3rd May 2011
“Dr John Price, a former member of the Safety Policy Unit at the UK’s National Nuclear Corporation, said radiation leaks will continue and it could take 50 to 100 years before the nuclear fuel rods have cooled enough to be removed.
French nuclear giant Areva, which supplied fuel to the plant, is helping figure out how to dispose of contaminated water, and American nuclear experts are joining Japanese on a panel to address the disaster.
Dr John Price, said that he saw no end in sight to the process of pouring water on to the rods in a bid to cool them.
As the water leaks out, you keep on pouring water in, so this leak will go on for ever,’ Dr Price told ABC News in Australia.
There has to be some way of dealing with it. The water is connecting in tunnels and concrete-lined pits at the moment and the question is whether they can pump it back.”
The final thing is that the reactors will have to be closed and the fuel removed, and that is 50 to 100 years away.
It means that the workers and the site will have to be intensely controlled for a very long period of time. Dr John Price, said that he saw no end in sight to the process of pouring water on to the rods in a bid to cool them.
As the water leaks out, you keep on pouring water in, so this leak will go on for ever,’ Dr Price told ABC News in Australia.”
There has to be some way of dealing with it. The water is connecting in tunnels and concrete-lined pits at the moment and the question is whether they can pump it back.
The final thing is that the reactors will have to be closed and the fuel removed, and that is 50 to 100 years away.
It means that the workers and the site will have to be intensely controlled for a very long period of time.”
…No mention of entombing them in concrete.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371793/Japan-nuclear-crisis-Fukushima-plant-entombed-concrete-radiation-leak.html
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That all sounds good in theory…
What happens when space for more water storage tanks runs out? I seem to remember reading an article that they were already running out of room.
Whatever happened to that radiation water barge anyway? Maybe they can export radioactive water to other nations that want it.
What happens when people get tired of working in a suicide mission environment? They have already gone down from 53 firms providing workers to 2 or 3.
I wonder if multiple ‘leaky’ reactors and multiple spent fuel pools constantly throwing out radiation in water, air, and ground for the next 50 to 100 years will be something people will accept, even with the term ‘cold shutdown’ attached to it?
And then there is the great unknown. Where are all of those pesky melted corium blobs? What they are doing?
Could they open up lava tubes and cause a volcano?
Could they go down to groundwater and explode?
Could they cause earthquakes that shake the whole FUKU complex down to total destruction?
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What happens when the entire site gets so ‘hot’ humans can no longer work there? My guess is that they will cover everything up with tents, then let it slowly burn up. Once all of the dangerous stuff is gone, they can claim they have cleaned it up and case closed…..
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5 Years? Hell and i thought the russians were slow..
Honestly, this is just BS. They wayned around for almost 10 months, told nothing but lies to the public and learned NOTHING from Chernobyl – hell they even try to make the people move back into the highly contaminated areas and burning the radioactive garbage in towns at the other end of Japan to make sure that the radiaton spreads to the last corner of the country! Japanese children are forced to play on a playground where we buried radioactive ashes? fine as well!
I hope every last one of the responsible people for this condemnable actions are going to held accountable for the pain they causes to the japanese citizen.
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Given the attention span of the average western mind these days, and given how many will be dead or dying by then, and given the power of the great corporate propaganda machine by 2017, they will try to convince us that our short life spans are the result of a strange, newly discovered “natural” virus that manifests itself as numerous cancers.
This will probably be very successful disinformation and Fukushima reality will remain in the darkest of shadows.
It will be like Occupy in reverse. The 1% will know the truth, 99% will drink the koolaid.
Assuming there is a 2017.
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I would not be surprised if they label anyone who thinks like people on this site do, with a disease called Fukushitis, and that those few abberant individuals are treated by force in institutions, with strong sedatives, narcotics, and anti depressants.
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PoorDaddy,..your math may be spot on,…what is 7,000 out of 7 billion?
This story is utter nonsense. Total crapola! I still think NASA has cameras that can see heat,…..I just smell a giant sized rat,…but I don’t know what it is, or where.
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2017?
Whoa there guys, dont get in a hurry or anything..
Since we know, thru pressure data, that #2 blew the bottom out of the RPV, and we know there is no water @ 12ft from the bottom of the containment, looking @ the reactor diagram shows the Reactor core itself to be quite a bit above the containment floor, we know there is nothing in the RPV anymore, as if there was, and it was dry… Boom..
There has to be some fuel on the containment floor to generate the heat, unless the steam is coming from the “hole to hell” many envision under the plants..
But millions of gallons of water, poured right into these messes, is bleeding out into the enviroment..
Also, consider…
Corium can be as hot as 5,000 degrees..
1/2 the surface of the sun hot…
Magma hot.. Think oceanside volcano`s…
A fire hose could never get a drop on it..
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The article I posted does not give any hope at all, not even a glimmer, yet it was ABC Australia, Australia who mines uranium. I wonder if they are going to be testing various ways to reduce radioactivity & cool the blobs. This way we have no
expectations & they are free to do as they please.
We know they are spraying R4 with water, we have seen the red pump.
You are right it makes no sense to expect to have enough people willing to take the risks or even healthy enough to do so in 50 years. I do not believe they are storing water anywhere. A country that is willing to share radioactive waste across their country & dump radioactive ash into the ocean will not be spending the money or time storing anything.
I believe the blobs are exactly like molten lava & will react with water just as it does.
Why hasn’t any country demanded they stop burning the waste? I can not comprehend that being allowed at all.
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I’m still think that the entire situation was so bad on day one, and they knew it, that they simply are going through the motions. Pretending as it were.
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Yes from day one, now they are not only, just going through the motions, they are keeping themselves busy/distracted. I’m thinking when the economy begins to be effected like;
Foreign tourist to Japan decreased by 2,400,000 (-27.8%) in 2011.
2010 : 8,610,000
2011 : 6,219,300
This is the biggest decrease since 1971, the next year when they held the global exhibition in Osaka.
It is because of the earthquake and the Fukushima nuclear accident.
Korean tourist : -32.0%
Chinese tourist : -26.1%
Taiwanese tourist : -21.6%
Hongkong tourist : -28.3%
In total, it decreased by -62.5% in April but it ‘s still -11.7% in November and December.
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This is a good article and graphic about decontamination of FUKU water…
http://en.rian.ru/infographics/20110610/164554173.html
Radioactive water increasing by 500 tons a day onsite. Treated sediment is stored in special square containers. Treated water that still has high levels of strontium in it is stored in special large steel round water tanks, being built at a very fast clip, in order to handle the 500 tons a day of additional water.
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Why not 1 and 3? Well, 3 doesn’t exist anymore so no sence trying to look in something that ain’t there….
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@ StPauliScout
They will do exactly the same thing in Nr. 1
and Nr. 3, at least the Road-map is saying so!
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