“Massive leak” at nuclear plant after reactors contract “small pox” — Stunning Discovery: Contagion has spread all over critical structures — Multiple large cracks found — Experts befuddled… Literally a plot similar to a movie thriller

Published: March 21st, 2017 at 7:07 am ET


Hindustan Times, Mar 19, 2017 (emphasis added): A year after heavy water leaked from the coolant channel in unit I of the [India’s] Gujarat-based Kakrapar Atomic Power Station (KAPS-1), preliminary investigations have found corrosion spots on the channel’s outer surface, and through-wall cracks in it… On March 12, KAPS-1… underwent an automatic shut down at 9 am after a leak from its coolant system. Following this, a ‘plant emergency’ was declared.

Press Trust of India (India’s largest news agency), Mar 19, 2017: Scientists Probing How 2 Nuclear Reactors Contracted ‘Small Pox’ — In a highly guarded Indian nuclear reactor complex, toughened radiation resistant pipes have contracted ‘small pox’. As a consequence, literally in a plot similar to a Bollywood thriller Indian scientists are burning the midnight oil to unravel the mysterious nuclear leak at the Kakrapar Nuclear Power Plant… they are working over-time to find out the real cause of the cryptic leaks… Nuclear experts say pipes, made from a rare alloy, have contracted what seems like ‘small pox’ and this contagion has spread all over the critical tubes… [T]he teams of scientists really do not understand what has gone wrong. It was on the morning of March 11, 2016… [the] nuclear plant suffered a heavy water leak in its primary coolant channel and a plant emergency was declared… [An] initial probe using a specially designed tool revealed that four big cracks had formed on a coolant tube which led to the massive leak. The discovery of the crack was only the beginning of the mystery, further efforts to find the root cause established that the outside of the tube, the part which was not exposed to high temperature heavy water, was also for some unexplained reason “corroded”. This was a stunning discovery… [The AERB] discovered that the contagion of the “nodular corrosion” or what in layman’s language can also be described as “small pox-like” was very widespread in many of the 306 tubes… A further postmortem revealed that the Unit-2… had also been affected by a similar leak… almost ten months before the Unit 1 had a sudden appalling failure in March 2016… This literally back-to-back failure of two fully functional nuclear reactors befuddled the engineers… The international community is as much at a loss in explaining the failures…

Previous report concerning India’s nuclear power industry here: “Nuclear Nightmare”: Children with mutations “on almost every street” — Deformed heads, lopsided bodies, “toad skin”, eyelids turned inside out (VIDEO)

Published: March 21st, 2017 at 7:07 am ET


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  • jec jec

    Saw the Hindu news report and checked out situation two days ago. The two units are shutdown. The pipes in question have been removed. Per authorities, no other nuclear units have the same issue, just two.
    As if two was not enought! But seems the two units got C02 from a different source; C02 is used in these channels. The thought is the gas was contaminated and corrosion occurred. I sure hope the vendor had good "insurance." OH..and while no dosimeter/radiation data is available, everyone is safe. I just wish I could believe it! The cavalier attitude of Nuclear Plant Management and operators..is unbelieveable! If its cheap(bet that was involved)–USE IT. Word is the two units have to have the entire system of pipes replaced..may not be possible.

    • Sol Man

      "No other nuclear units have the same issue, just two," they say.
      So, they are speaking for all of the npp's in the world?

      There are more problems that the industry would care to reveal, no doubt.

  • etudiant

    Sounds like a processing failure in the production of the tubes.
    These tubes are a very critical component of the design and are difficult to make. Both the alloying as well as the processing treatments are very exacting and it is not immediately obvious if something has been missed.
    Provided adequate documentation has been maintained, they should be able to identify and remove the deficient parts. Otherwise the operation of these reactors will need to be halted much more frequently to allow for inspection.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      Nuclear is extremely expensive. Using a deficient metal alloy to cut down on production costs is totally destroying the world. There is no reason to support use of nuclear technology except for a radical depopulation agenda. The power elite are destroying themselves along with everyone else.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        Gujarat: Leak at Kakrapar Nuclear plant ‘located and isolated’
        The expert teams had earlier probed the radiation levels within the plant premises and outside in a 5-km radius.
        March 23, 2016

        “…According to KAPS site director L K Jain, the core of 220 MWe pressurized heavy water reactor comprises 306 coolant channels made from the zirconium-niobium alloy, and each of those has 12 fuel bundles. The coolant flows through these channels transferring heat from the fuel to the steam generator to produce steam for driving the turbine to produce electricity, he added….”

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          This article I just posted is from 2016, a year ago. The problem is not a new one. This time it is much more serious.

          Leakage in Kakrapar Unit-1 Nuclear Reactor in Gujarat, Confusion Prevails

          Leakage in Kakrapar Unit-1 Nuclear Reactor in Gujarat, Confusion Prevails
          March 13,2016

          “…However, some reports indicate that the containment has been vented to the atmosphere at least once , if not more times , which I suspect indicates a tendency for pressure build up in that closed space due to release of hot heavy water and steam into the containment housing .

          "If this is true, the leak is not small , but moderately large , and still continuing. No one confirms that any one has entered the containment (in protective clothing) for a quick physical assessment of the situation , perhaps it is not safe to do so because of the high radiation fields inside. When NPCIL officials state that the reactor cooling is maintained , I believe what they may be doing is to allow the heavy water or light water stored in the emergency cooling tanks to run once-through the system and continue to pour through the leak into the containment floor through the break.

          “All this points to the likelihood that what Kakrapar Unit-1 is undergoing is a small Loss-of-Coolant Accident (LOCA) in progress. It is most likely that one or more pressure tubes (PT) in the reactor (which contain the fuel bundles) have cracked open , leaking hot primary system heavy-water coolant into the containment ho

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

            housing . The reactor cooling is said to be maintained which , in view of the PT breach , can only be by supply of heavy water or light water from the storage tanks of the emergency cooling systems . While it may perhaps ensure bulk coolant temperatures in the PHT system to be well under control , it could still mean fuel centreline temperatures in the channel which may have a breach could be quite high .

            "The seriousness of the accident and the potential high risks to the plant and personnel in the near vicinity are yet to be assessed , because NPCIL and AERB do not yet know where the location of the leak is or how to initiate actions to stop it.,,,”

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

            “…In August 1983 , the Pickering Heavy Water Reactor in Canada had a serious Small LOCA , due to a sudden two-meter long rupture of a pressure tube (PT). Upon later analysis , the cause was found to be the mislocation of annulus gas spacer springs which allowed the pressure tube to sag and contact the calandria tube , leading to hydrogen enrichment of the cooler areas of the PT. This made the tube more brittle in such cooler locations and it ruptured due to the internal fluid pressure.

            “In 1983 , when this accident in Canada occurred , India was under international nuclear sanctions following the Pokhran-1 test and it took some time before root causes of this accident were understood by our Department of Atomic Energy (DAE) institutions. But , the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) did commendable work immediately in analysing the phenomenon of hydriding of PTs in a PHWR , and carried out experiments, developed computer programs and the appropriate PT Integrity Inspection Equipment within the next decade. Based on all this work , a Pressure Tube Aging & Integrity Management Program was develop jointly by BARC & NPCIL , for strict adherence to and use by NPCIL in all their PHWRs. Besides , it was found essential that the PT material has to be changed to Niobium-stabilized Zircaloy , and accordingly all previous Indian PHWRs including Kakrapar Unit-1 were re-tubed with the new alloy tubes in subsequent years .

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

              But , this re-tubing did not preclude the need for strictly following of the PT Aging Management Program and the periodic checking of the garter spring position between the PT and the Calandria tube to minimize the PT sagging within the calandria tube. It may be possible that , having built more than 20 PHWRs , NPCIL and AERB in recent years have become overconfident and relaxed their strict adherence to this Aging Management Program , which might have been the reason for the current accident….”

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                Leakage in Kakrapar Unit-1 Nuclear Reactor in Gujarat, Confusion Prevails
                DR A.GOPALAKRISHNAN , [Dr. Gopalakrishnan is a Former Chairman of the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board , Government of India.]

                “…But, technical experts are compelled to put out such conjectures because of the total lack of transparency of the Indian civilian nuclear power sector and the atomic energy commission (AEC) , the Dept. of Atomic Energy (DAE) , the NPCIL and the AERB .

                “The people have a need to know and , therefore , the AEC and its subordinate organizations need to promptly release status reports on the progressing safety incident which could affect their lives , to alleviate their concerns and anxieties . It is a series of such lapses in communication over the years which has built an ever-increasing trust deficit in the DAE system among the general public. All future plans for expanding the civilian nuclear power sector should be put on hold until a truly independent nuclear safety regulator is put in place , who is not controlled by the AEC or the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) , who will then be answerable to openly communicating with the public on all civilian nuclear power matters.”

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        March 19, 2017

        “…The atomic thriller really begins when experts are trying to find out why a leak recognition system failed, in the first place it should have given an alarm.

        "’There is a leak detection system in place in all PHWRs, but in this case it failed to detect the leak on March 11, 2016,’ confirms AERB Chairman S A Bhardwaj. AERB speculates that the crack developed so rapidly that the electronic leak detection system just did not had the time to react.

        “Subsequent investigations revealed that the leak detection system was fully functioning and the operator had "NOT shut it down" to cut costs.

        “Nothing in the core of a nuclear reactor can be done in a jiffy and several weeks after the first leak, initial probe using a specially designed tool revealed that four big cracks had formed on a coolant tube which led to the massive leak.

        “The discovery of the crack was only the beginning of the mystery, further efforts to find the root cause established that the outside of the tube, the part which was not exposed to high temperature heavy water, was also for some unexplained reason 'corroded'.

        “This was a stunning discovery, since the outside of the failed tube was exposed only to high temperature carbon dioxide and there had been no recorded case of a similar corrosion having been seen on the outside of any tube. It is also very hard to access this part since the space was very tiny in the annulus.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          “The AERB then ordered that all the tubes made out of a special alloy of zirconium-niobium be checked on the outside, to their surprise, they discovered that the contagion of the ‘nodular corrosion’ or what in layman's language can also be described as ‘small pox-like’ was very widespread in many of the 306 tubes.

          “Tubes made from the same batch and used at other Indian reactors continue to operate faithfully, without corrosion.

          “The needle of suspicion now pointed to the carbon dioxide, a gas known to be very stable in high radiation environments.

          “A further postmortem revealed that the Unit-2 which is twin of the affected reactor had also been affected by a similar leak on July 1, 2015 almost ten months before the Unit 1 had a sudden appalling failure in March 2016….”

  • SadieDog

    C'mon admin. 'small pox, contagion'… ?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    As part of the original article.. the use of a 'biological' term to describe the spreading of materials failure, because they can not describe the process in the terminology of the field.. piques one's interest.

    • Silverlok Silverlok

      "As part of the original article.. the use of a 'biological' term to describe the spreading of materials failure, because they can not describe the process in the terminology of the field.. "

      because in real life, no fields (frameworks)are not intertwined

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemotroph; "Chemotrophs are organisms that obtain energy by the oxidation of electron donors in their environments.[1] These molecules can be organic (chemoorganotrophs) or inorganic (chemolithotrophs). The chemotroph designation is in contrast to phototrophs, which utilize solar energy. Chemotrophs can be either autotrophic or heterotrophic. Chemotrophs are commonly found in ocean floors where sunlight cannot reach them because they are not dependent on solar energy. Ocean floors often contain underwater volcanos that can provide heat to substitute sunlight for warmth.

      occasionally some water based 'extreme-ophiles' obtain energy by the oxidation of electron donors in their environments, due to radiation induced oxidation , or electron donation. ( see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron-oxidizing_bacteria )

    • deaddolphins deaddolphins

      Its the Wigner Effect…The Wigner effect (named for its discoverer, Eugene Wigner) also known as the dis-composition effect or Wigner's Disease, is the displacement of atoms in a solid caused by neutron radiation….Any solid can be affected by the Wigner effect. The effect is of most concern in neutron moderators, such as graphite, intended to reduce the speed of fast neutrons, thereby turning them into thermal neutrons capable of sustaining a nuclear chain reaction involving uranium-235 etc…..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigner_effect

      Coupled with deliberately…"Using a deficient metal alloy to cut down on production costs is totally destroying the world. There is no reason to support use of nuclear technology except for a radical depopulation agenda" [Dr Maziar]…OR just self destructive, inexplicable, homo sapien induced stupidity fully knowing the extreme dangers involved already discussed by others here.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Similar to a movie plot.. except ..DUH.. it's reality.
    No Bollywood/Hollywood answers.

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    damn how come they did not get there vaccinations.
    oh i forgot nuclear is a religion


    This is fake news, although there may or may not be an event, that can be critiqued and examined; “fake news” is built to ,obfuscate,: render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible.

    The business model is simple: identify the news that people want to read, and give it to them, regardless of the truth and with no effort whatsoever put into actual reporting.

    In its own way, (twisted) fake news is more sophisticated than real news..i.e. A serious nuclear event with a pandemic.

    Sure, real news actually examines complexities that exist in the real world while fake news just makes stuff up. But fake news can be targeted to appeal to exactly what people want to see.

    • GOM GOM

      Meanwhile, Trump is deliberately trying to undermine the reliability of truth itself, in a hope to push as many people as possible toward this ecosystem.

      As fake news or real news mixed with fake spreads, more readers shrug the truth.

  • irhologram

    Really? Has this not been inevitable and obvious… Can you pretend I haven't connected these dots here, going back to 2013?

    For a relevant example, Methane/H2S/et al permeation has been causing buried gas-line pipes to explode, frequent in my notes and posts, since 2013. We used to have featured articles here…an exploded buried pipeline in Texas, one in a Louisiana waterway…

    This one is China was pretty huge that year: 2013-11-21 – Massive underground pipeline explosion rocks coastal Qingdao (China), at least 44 killed, 135+ injured:

    Now, its ho hum…normalcy bias…we don't bother with corroded, disintegrated, practically new pipelines on this site anymore. No use my "wall-papering" the mind-numbing number of them since then… Most of you prefer denial.

    How long until nuclear "small pox" is as common and as normalcy biased as…uummm, nuclear transformer, switchyard, and wiring fires we used to see as headlines here…(that I could also wall-paper here right now, and you know it! But I'll spare you. Deaf ears…


  • irhologram

    I withheld this one from Saturday just to see if anyone would even bother to post it:

    Turkey Point Nuclear Generating Station damaged by electrical fire in coastalHomestead (Florida):

    In the above, current story, the pipe was corroded on the inside and on the outside. Now how would that happen? The pipe was in the coolant assembly? It carried water? Corrosive gases absorb in water and soils? They refer to the "pocks" as contageous? Gas corrosion spreads and progressively corrodes?

    I mean PLEASE. Don't y'all have something else to do with your thumbs? I'm sorry. I don't want to be rude…but denial gets very, very old.


    It's a travesty that India doesn't have an extensive public monitoring network. Due to lack thereof, investigating that one was near-impossible. Only mentioned a few things on the initial leak (March 15, 2016): Quick Mix: Data Gap followed by Spike on Cyprus; + Magnitude Unknown of Leak at Kakrapar Nuclear Power Plant in Gujarat, India; ETC.

    @ https://allegedlyapparent.wordpress.com/2016/03/15/quick-mix-data-gap-followed-by-spike-on-cyprus-magnitude-unknown-of-leak-at-kakrapar-nuclear-power-plant-in-gujarat-india/

    PS, the "Iodine-131 Detections @ CERN" post from yesterday sat empty overnite; glitch corrected.: https://allegedlyapparent.wordpress.com/2017/03/20/qm7/



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  • Isthmus

    China has a reputation of not producing to our US specs, also not known to use special metals for alloys or not enough of it. Also the recycling of metals ends up with weaker metals, then there is expansion and contraction causing cracked pipes. Example I have a friend at a solar plant and it was explained to me that the maintenance of cracked pipes was continuous, there's no stopping cracked pipes, how do these engineers get away design without considering all considerations .

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    One year ago.

    "The recent leakage should impel government to stop proceeding with any new nuclear project. The harmful policy of importing nuclear reactors and diluting liability law to facilitate foreign nuclear companies must be reversed," Mr Karat said in an article of party's mouthpiece 'People's Democracy'.

    "There has to be a comprehensive safety audit of the country's nuclear plants and an independent nuclear regulatory authority is needed without which there can be no credible risk assessment of the power plants," he added.

    Mr Karat, who was CPI-M's general secretary when the Left Front withdrew support to UPA-I government over Indo-US nuclear deal in 2008, observed that after the deal, the government has embarked on a plan to import nuclear power plants from France and the United States "on a large scale".

    Sites in Jaitapur, Mithi Virdhi and Kovvada are expected to have nuclear parks with up to six reactors at each site, he said.

    "It is to facilitate these reactors imported at exorbitant costs that the Modi government is working to undermine civil nuclear liability law passed by Parliament," said Mr Karat.

    "Not only are there inadequate safety standards in place, the government is also working to ensure Indians do not get any guarantee of compensation and rehabilitation in case of nuclear accidents and the resultant damage," he…

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


      Mr Karat also termed the nuclear establishments represented by Department of Atomic Energy (DAE), Atomic Energy Commission and Nuclear Power Corporation as "notorious" for their "lack of transparency and independent regulation".

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.theindiaexpert.com/westinghouse-hopes-to-close-the-india-reactor-deal-by-march 2016

    According to Business Standard Toshiba Corporation’s Westinghouse Electric hopes to clinch a deal to build six nuclear reactors in India by end-March, CEO Daniel Roderick said, in time for a possible visit by Prime Minister Narendra Modi to Washington to attend a global nuclear summit. A Westinghouse team was already in India to negotiate the deal, Roderick noted.

    The ratification of the International Atomic Energy Agency‘s Convention on Supplementary Compensation for Nuclear Damage is expected within weeks, an Indian government official said.

    India has launched an insurance pool with a liability cap of about $222 million to assuage suppliers’ concerns, after a 2010 law gave the state-run operator Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd., the right to seek damages from them in the event of an accident.

    Roderick also remarked that if the GE-Hitachi deal did not eventually go through, Westinghouse would rather the Indian government gave it the site than to “Russia or somebody else”.

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


      At a meeting at the White House between President Obama and Prime Minister Modi of India it was announced that Pennsylvania-based Westinghouse Electric Corporation and the Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd., will begin engineering and site design work immediately for six AP1000 reactors in India which will be operational by 2030. Contractual arrangements will be completed by June 2017.

      According to Reuters, Westinghouse Electrics six AP-1000 reactors will now be located on a 2000 acre plot of land in Kovvada in the southeastern state of Andhra Pradesh. Ajay Jain, energy secretary of Andhra Pradesh, told Reuters that the purchase will close this year, and that “construction can begin in 2017.”

      These reactors will bring clean energy to India and generate thousands of jobs in the U.S., Brian Deese, Senior Advisor to the U.S. President, told reporters in a conference call. Once completed, the project will be among the largest of its kind, and will meet India’s growing energy needs while reducing reliance on fossil fuels.

      Both leaders noted the intention of India and the U.S. Export-Import Bank to work together toward a competitive financing package for the project, reports Economic Times.

      • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

        Sept. 27, 2016

        India Seeks $9 Billion Loan For Westinghouse Reactor

        by Gunjan Bagla

        India is reportedly negotiating with the U.S. government’s Export-Import Bank for a loan of up to $9 billion in order to help finance a six-unit nuclear unit that involves Westinghouse Electric‘s AP1000 technology, reports Nuclear Street. However, with the presidential elections ahead, the current situation at the bank is not very favorable: the bank is not allowed to make loans over $10 million with fewer than three directors at the helm, and currently, there are only two directors in place.

        According to Times of India, Vijay Sazawal, director of the International Atomic Energy Consulting in Washington, said, “the goal right now is to get that financing done during President Obama’s tenure, knowing full well that it may or may not stick in a new administration following the … presidential election.”

  • Sol Man

    Behold the incrementalism. Little by little the world is made uninhabitable. So much of the once thriving ecosystem is destroyed.
    Guaranteed, we are vulnerable being part of the mix.


  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    The 220 MW units have 306 coolant channels. “In all 612 coolant channels in both the units will be changed,” said Station Director V.K.Jain, Station Director. The replacement project, he said, is expected to take around two and a half years. “First to go on stream would be the second unit and three or four months later, the first unit would start generating power,” he said.

  • irhologram

    No incident mention in Official Press…but BOY are they scrammbling to "reach out" and pay for community schools, for example …reminds me of Japan's cities being "paid off" (supported) by the Nuclear Power Plants they are home to.


  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    …According to him, all the NPCIL plants including KAPS are insured and an insurance claim will be lodged after ascertaining the actual cause of leak and the damage.

    However, the much-awaited public liability policy is yet to be issued to the atomic power plant operator.

    "The public liability insurance policy has not yet been issued. The General Insurance Corporation of India (GIC Re) is dealing with the matter," said the NPCIL official.

    Foreign nuclear plant suppliers were reluctant to sell to India, citing the provisions of the Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage Act (CLND) 2010 that provides the right of recourse by NPCIL against the vendors under certain circumstances for compensation in case of an accident.

    The CLND Act also provides for state-run NPCIL, which operates all atomic power plants in India, to seek compensation from suppliers in an accident due to faulty equipment.

    It's all here…

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    …Bhardwaj says the investigators are wondering if the carbon dioxide used in Kakrapar may have been contaminated which caused the 'nodular corrosion' on the outside of the pipes.

    The source of the carbon dioxide was further back traced and it seems only the Kakrapar plant was sourcing its gas from a 'naptha cracking unit' and possibly it has some contamination of hydrocarbons.

    No conclusive evidence on the contamination has been forthcoming and forensic analysis is still under way.

    The global watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, and ten other global forums have been informed that a mysterious leak is dogging Indian reactors at Kakrapar and if the global community could be of some help.

    The international community is as much at a loss in explaining the failures as are the Indian teams.

    BARC are exposing the Zircalloy tubes to carbon dioxide spiked with various contaminants and they are being placed in a high radiation environment to accentuate the aging process to try and determine the exact cause of the two processes — 'small pox'-like nodular corrosion and the development of cracks in the coolant tubes.

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    There was an existing problem with the CANDU parts, causing accidents, leaks and spills. The parts were replaced with, apparently, faulty ones, also.


  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    At issue is the fact that pressure tubes in the RAPS reactors are made of Zircalloy-2, a zirconium-steel alloy used only at early CANDU reactors. This alloy is a problem because of its susceptibility to embrittlement and elongation. Embrittlement in 1983 of a pressure tube in Ontario Hydro's Pickering reactor-2 led to a metre-long rupture and a major loss of coolant accident. All of India's PHWRs prior to Kakrapar-2 have used Zircalloy tubes. Kakrapar-2 has used the zirconium-niobium alloy that has been used in later CANDU reactors.
    …A 200 MW CANDU is capable of making 50 to 60 kg of weapons grade plutonium annually. [303] Indian now has six reactors of this size operating, in addition to the two RAPS reactors that operated sporadically since 1972 and 1981. All of these reactors were built using the CANDU technology that Canada provided. India's decision to opt for an advanced fuel cycle with a breeder reactor involves the reprocessing of fuel to extract plutonium, which provides the infrastructure and effective camouflage for military production and reprocessing.
    …In June 1994, former AECL CANDU President Donald Lawson wrote to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to draw their attention to safety problems at the RAPS reactors. At that time he said, "The conditions are such that there is a real potential for a … pressure tube rupture to occur at any time".

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    …In 1974, India exploded a nuclear weapon that it had produced with plutonium made from the CANDU heavy water reactors sold by Canada. Canada had insisted that part of the deal be that the technology could be used only for peaceful purposes and not for nuclear explosions, but after the bomb was detonated India claimed that the plutonium had been used for a “peaceful nuclear explosion.” In this dispute, it seems that India made a rather dishonest and disingenuous interpretation, but one could say there was more truth in their view and a grave misunderstanding of nuclear technology on the part of Canada. In fact, India was right, in a certain sense. It is impossible to say which nuclear applications are peaceful and which are not. There is no peaceful way of processing uranium and splitting atoms. Its violent effects on living beings become apparent as soon as it is removed from under the earth’s surface.

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    …The Kakrapar unit 1, a pressurised heavy water reactor based on CANDU (CANada Deuterium Uranium) design, is over twenty years old. There are another seven similar reactors in India of the same design that are over 20 years old. Any mishap in these reactors could endanger the lives of over 4 million people living around a 30 km-radius around these eight reactors [1].

    The risk of accidents increases with age in CANDU reactors, with the inevitable degradation of hundreds of pipes that hold the fuel and transport heavy water. Due to increasing accident risks, CANDU reactors typically need to be shut down and “completely retubed” after about 25 years of operation in order to continue operating safely.

    In a statement on the Kakrapar accident released yesterday, the AERB said that only the reactor’s “pressure tubes”, which hold the fuel bundles, were replaced in 2011, but that it is unclear whether all safety-sensitive aging components were replaced. “Neither Kakrapar’s operator, nor the regulator, have disclosed exactly what components or tubing failed and caused the leak. This is why an investigation into the causes of the Kakrapar accident and the condition of India’s other aging reactors is urgently needed,” says Merchant.

    …The population within the 30km radius around Kakrapar is close to a million people. [2]

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    It is already well-known and observed phenomenon that CANDU pressure tubes deform as they age. This is due to an effect known as radiation-induced ‘creep’, the latter meaning the metal becomes like a very slow flowing plastic driven by the heat generated by fission in the uranium fuel. An American colleague of mine used to call CANDU reactors “the world’s largest creep experiments”. Creep arises on the atomic level from the displacement of metal atoms by high energy neutrons (before they are slowed down by the moderator) and by the embedding (ingress) of hydrogen isotope atoms in the metal forming hydrides which further degrade the metal’s macroscopic properties.

    …Therefore, the pressure tubes had to be thin and it was acknowledged from the outset that creep would be a problem in CANDUs.

    The history of CANDU pressure tubes was bumpy at the beginning. In 1974 leaks were discovered near the rolled end joints in some tubes in Pickering A reactors. This problem was attributed to delayed hydride cracking which arose from how the joints had been fabricated and was corrected by replacing the faulty tubes. In August of 1983, a pressure tube ruptured in Pickering A reactor number 2, some twelve years after it began operation. There was no leak-before-break in this case which caused dismay since it was always touted as a safety feature.

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      This failure was attributed to friction damage caused by spacers around the tube and also to the alloy the tube was made from. This accident required the re-tubing of first two Pickering A reactors with tubes made of a better alloy. (AECL also lost the royalty it had on the electricity produced which was the start of its unremitting financial woes.) This event resulted in even more R&D on pressure tube degradation from which a target limit of 210,000 hours was set.

      So what has happened to change this limit? What is the scientific basis for extending the lifetime of the pressure tubes?…

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    https://www.iaea.org/NuclearPower/Downloadable/Meetings/2013/2013-07-02-07-04-RCM-NPTD/2_Bickel_2_July_2013_IAEA_CRP.pdf Status and Plans for work on pressure tube creep at AECL

    Interesting…yet,(above) "The global watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, and ten other global forums have been informed that a mysterious leak is dogging Indian reactors at Kakrapar and if the global community could be of some help.

    The international community is as much at a loss in explaining the failures as are the Indian teams.



    • Jebus Jebus

      Excellent reporting HHD.

      It is going to happen again. There is no learning from the past.

      There is only the production of destruction today.


      If one stares at a good picture of the Earth out in space long enough it say's, "here's your sign".

      Some see it right away, some never see it…

  • antipodes

    Code Shutdown, Thanks for the reply concerning lightening bolts (electricity) and their possible use in altering the nuclear melts. One of the chief masterminds of the electrical age Nicola Tesla is someone I'd like to ask about the Fukushima dilemma ,it was his that led to the invention of the long distance electrical grid. Edison felt that would be too dangerous and recommended more localized power generation. I guess he was right in that regard. Anyhow it's just a hunch, and I stated it herein follow up to Man of Action's earlier statement. I ask why not try it out on a small scale, what does the world have to lose after all? Will study this further.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      antipodes…nothing wrong with hunches. But then you want something to back it up; experiments. There is a whole world of so called alternative science. You can spend a life time looking at promising, but almost always poorly backed up concepts. Some are quite tantalizing. Its one thing to believe and be enthusiastic, its another thing altogether to have a working unit well validated.

      You could start here


      my hunch is you will never come to a validated conclusion in this lifetime. I know this because I heard about Teslas 'free energy' designs, Bearden, browns gas, magnet motors, Townsend Browns anti gravity, etc etc a lifetime ago. That doesnt mean some of that stuff isnt valid in some way. But there is a curious inability to actually have a working unit in your possession.

      One of the most promising people I came across is Paolo Correa. http://www.aetherometry.com/index2.html

      My experience tells me it would be a miracle of advancement if any alternative science technique could remediate Fukushima in our lives or the next. By all means, let the brilliant ones continue their quest. But that dream wont be won by casual musing and hunches

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.power-eng.com/articles/print/volume-115/issue-6/features/power-generation-in-canada.html 2011

    “If we are to remain at 50 percent like the Ontario Power Authority has said, then we will need to replace the Pickering units with other nuclear units,” said Organization of Candu Industries President Dr. Neil Alexander. This is where the additional 2,000 MW at the Darlington power plant come in to play.

    Canada’s nuclear fleet is based on the Canada Deuterium Uranium (Candu) nuclear reactor. It can use recovered uranium and uses heavy water for both the coolant and the moderator, and uses natural uranium fuel and pressure tubes instead of single pressure vessels.

    However, the calandria tubes are causing problems at the 635 MW Point Lepreau nuclear power plant in New Brunswick. A refurbishment project there is years behind schedule because of a problem with the seals on the calandria tubes. Previously, New Brunswick threatened to sue the federal government to cover cost overruns of approximately US$387 million to buy replacement power.

    Atomic Energy Canada Limited (AECL), the maker of the Candu reactor, told New Brunswick Power in October 2010 that its workers had to remove and replace the 380 tubes because of problems with loose-fitting seals. The refurbishment project was expected to be done in 2009 and is now scheduled for completion in 2012.

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      Dr. Neil Alexander was relieved of his duties as Executive Director Sylvia Fedoruk Canadian Centre for Nuclear Innovation @ University of Saskatchewan with no explanation, last October.

      If anyone knows why, please submit. Important…

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Consumers Would Be $3.9 Billion 'Losers' From Nuclear Subsidies [Annual price tag]

    Bloomberg March 21, 2017
    “Nuclear plant owners are seeking subsidies in Ohio, Connecticut, Pennsylvania and New Jersey after Exelon Corp. won state aid for reactors in Illinois and New York last year. Should all 28,000 megawatts of nuclear power across northeast and mid-Atlantic states win subsidies at the same level as New York, ratepayers would face an annual $3.9 billion hike, according to a report by Bloomberg Intelligence Tuesday….”

  • India has a number of radiation monitoring stations, you will find them under India here on the International Radiation Monitoring Stations list.

    Note: Check the chart dates on Indian stations as they are often months old, and very unreliable!


  • Getting very tense, with a lot of saber rattling happening in the World at present!

    You have North Korea threating to nuke the US, and also these reports below.

    Time to make sure all your monitoring equipment is working properly, and maybe consider having other preparations ready.

    Hopefully everyone will see sense, and these threats will all blow over.

    Ukraine's Dirty Bomb – Russia's Case for Preemptive Strike


    Russia Warns Israel They will Use Tactical Nukes


    Maybe worth downloading the latest updated PDF version of the, International Radiation Monitoring Stations list from here, so you can access a copy from your home devices if the site becomes overloaded.


  • Nk test firing several icbms yesterday-
    Nuclear knows no bounds. :/

    Welp side bantor:
    Tomorrow is a big day for me. The start of a 2 month hellish endeavour. Try to make my time worth it to the world (in this time). Love you guys!

    Sorry. Been really depressed after a year long battle which I now have ultimately lost. I lost every inch and bit of progress I worked for with every person I loves factual assistance… This was devistating to me in both spirit and in reality…
    Tragedy knows my name-like i am some long lost member of its family.

    So will do my best to re-ground as I learned in colorado. Idk.
    I am just not the me I was anymore?
    This world is ultimately unfair and somewhere between learning it and living it. I lost myself…
    I really really did guys.
    All my love

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Both reactors shut down at Watts Bar Nuclear Plant
    March 20th
    “Both reactors at TVA's newest nuclear power plant are shut down after plant operators idled one unit for routine refueling Saturday and shut down the other unit Monday after detecting problems in the pumps on the non-nuclear part of the plant….”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Nuclear West Hardcover – November 1, 2014
    by Sarah Alisabeth Fox
    “Downwind is an unflinching tale of the atomic West that reveals the intentional disregard for human and animal life through nuclear testing by the federal government and uranium extraction by mining corporations during and after the Cold War.
    “Sarah Alisabeth Fox highlights the personal cost of nuclear testing and uranium extraction in the American West through extensive interviews with “downwinders,” the Native American and non-Native residents of the Great Basin region affected by nuclear environmental contamination and nuclear-testing fallout. These downwinders tell tales of communities ravaged by cancer epidemics, farmers and ranchers economically ruined by massive crop and animal deaths, and Native miners working in dangerous conditions without proper safety equipment so that the government could surreptitiously study the effects of radiation on humans.

    “In chilling detail Downwind brings to light the stories and concerns of these groups whose voices have been silenced and marginalized for decades in the name of “patriotism” and ‘national security.’
    “With the renewed boom in mining in the American West, Fox’s look at this hidden history, unearthed from years of field interviews, archival research, and epidemiological studies, is a must-read for every American concerned about the fate of our western lands and communities.”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Fallout: An American Nuclear Tragedy Paperback – March 15, 2004
    by Philip L. Fradkin (Author)

    “Tests in Nevada in the 1950's & 60s spread fallout that effected millions of Americans for decades to come. Fradkin covers the story of one court trail and the US govenrment's coverup.”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    American Ground Zero: The Secret Nuclear War Paperback – May 10, 1994
    by Carole Gallagher (Author), Keith Schneider (Forewor

    “A poignant collection of photographs which records the devastating effects of the United States government's mendacious and reckless nuclear testing program on the men, women, children, animals, and landscape of the American continent.”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    “…Threats somewhat farther afield include plans for an international uranium enrichment plant — critics call it a nuclear waste dump — just 80 miles upwind of Baikal, and growing talk of a pipeline to carry Baikal water to increasingly parched northern China….”

  • razzz razzz

    Reads like a maintenance issue. If they have to rebuild and replace all the parts of a reactor during a periodic shutdown then so be it. The whole point of running a reactor in a pristine environment is to be able to notice any anomalies during operation. Sensors are only set to arbitrary limits. Operators should be able to know what is going on before safety and warning alarms go off. When they start sounding, by that time it is usually to late and borders on liability and criminality for lack of maintenance in the first place trying to save on money and time. Operators should be held responsible instead of ratepayers and taxpayers. Of course in that instance, no reactors would ever get built but that's okay with me.

    • razzz razzz

      These nuke scientists are baffled because according to the maintenance reports these reactors should be running just fine.

      Same with environmentalists. If the reports of radioactive fallout from Daiichi are correct then sea life should not be dying. What if those reports are falsified and incomplete? Have they ever thought of mixing a pinch of radiocesium(s) into the saltwater aquariums in San Francisco or San Diego to see what happens or did I read about that happening inadvertently already months after the radioactive plume contaminated a saltwater intake at a Pacific coast aquarium somewhere.

  • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

    Gonna slip this in here, since I'm a POS.


    Note the precocious conditions, of course, considering say, fukushima's influence.

    Stop it.

  • laconic93 laconic93

    Well Well Well What do we have here? Guess what country has a cure for Radiation Exposure????


    In my best Gommer Pyle Voice
    Surprise, Surprise, Surpise.

    • DUDe DUDe

      There exists more then a few "rumors" "out there" that Fukushima was actually a deliberate act by Israel..that could only make sense if it wouldent be ,regardless who did it , an act of suicide in the long run..

      But now..indeed..surprise surprise..

      • DUDe DUDe

        If the whole world is allowed to benefit then its a good thing no doubt i suppose..

        Butt..No good without "some" evil..

        It can only works for animals and humans individuals that are accessible to inject..no plants..no forests..no oceans or rivers..

        Proponents wil use it to further push their agenda..both civillian and mic..

    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      Oooh that's interesting, funny, because gold has always been a naturally balanced "cure" (that is, preventative measure) against cancer. What's happened since then? Separating the gold and the uranium, and then trying to concentrate the uranium is a really terrible idea. Guess who's involved with that?

      Also, a reminder, Israel (Is Ra El?) is supposed to the earth. Yeah, so the rat bastards named it a country, not a nation.

  • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

    Baby, I'm waiting for you. I'm not leaving until I see your face. Baby, you need know me, I'm not just anyone, I'm the one you're gonna love some day.

    I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna wait here for you. You're kinda late, I'm gonna stay here for you. You're gonna love, you're gonna love me some day. You're gonna love me some day.

    Baby, you're fighting destiny, I'm getting close, you know. I'm not leaving until you say my name.

    • DUDe DUDe

      Pls FMM , dont post drunk.

      • DUDe DUDe

        Great , now the pothead mandela troll is back too..thx 😐

      • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

        Dude, I drink all day, every day. ~28 months of about 2 liters of wine a day (never mind the weed). Every single post I make, wherever is inebriated.

        So I preempted the celebration of the likes of Rockefeller's death. Whatever hey?

        • DUDe DUDe

          I have been a selfdestructif drunk myself on and off for about 15 years combined..and i have been a bartender in hardcore drunk places for about 7 years..ive observed a lot of humanity unleashed and "tripping" delirious..in front of me and inside of me..

          I would not mind serving you on the job or sitting drunk next to you off the job taking a drunk philosofical aim at everything we can come up with if i was still living like that..i think from what ive seen from you so far..

          But if you cant keep up some standard about what usefull/less posts or spooky poetry you choose to let come out of you in here..then this is not for you , or your presence is malevolent to this place..

          And frankly if you think otherwise that every place is as good as any to get your drunk kicks out of hearing yourself produces something..and dont care at all that it sounds like crazy darkspirited offputting gibberish to the majority of sober readers on this international forum then..well , then that says something about you and reduces all the critic you have on issues and people , justified or not , to nothing..

          This is not a bar , not yours..not any..except for the owner if he would choose to make it one..but he chooses to work hard to make it something with a function..and so does the majority of the posters here..and in return everybody posting here shows some basic respect for the place they use except the trolls..

          Dont try to make it one dragging it down in the process..

          • DUDe DUDe

            I had not enough room left to finish with..hopefully thanks for understanding..:)

          • Sparky Sparky

            Very thoughtful comment, DUDe. 'Cept I'm not so sure FMM is really a drunk vs. a troll (paid or volunteer)that projects a drunk persona. A curiosity, rather than a contributor, regardless. I tend to scroll past his comments. So here's another ineffective troll that attempts to take up space and derail or disrupt productive conversation. We've had better quality fruit flies on this site. This one…pffff! No bother.

            • DUDe DUDe

              Hey Sparky , that has been a while..welcome back..:)

              I dont know for sure about FMM , the spectrum i'm torn between is at one hand just a talented , caring , but undisciplined/unstable ,a bit too anarchistic, very bitter , drunk impulsive "poet"..out of place

              And on the other the same as above but that he hes indeed managed to see/understand/is centered in a "bigger" picture that alienate him by hes "crazy" words..with every attempt to get the message across..

              Problem is..i might think so because ive sort of "been there..done that"..(but without the rudeness.."let me piss on your post here"..) so it might be projection in loving memory of a previous life..NOT sure..and my attempt to put some pressure on to gain insight/understanding only result in the immune system of the forum getting active again..adding energy to the perpetual incompatibility reaction..

              But i dont want to waste the bigger insights of the infinite puzle we exist in he "might" be carrying/trying to share..

              We ALL have flaws..some (he?) might even have PTSD and the likes..sometimes friction inbetween is too much..sometimes it spontanious transforms in to lube/synergy when bound by a mutual goal..but the drinking is a problem..it brings within the subjest unstability/unpredictability/weirdness/lack of eye/care for mandatory detail/compatibility with the GROUPdynamic..and the latter just like every balance..also has limits on how far it can be "stretched"..

    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      Yeah well curly, how do you explain to people that their "masonic" efforts are for naught? That money can't sustain their supposed reality and normalcy bias.

      How do you explain to people that the plankton ecosystem is quite literally, cataclysmic, and has accelerating exponential effects? (Oxygen depletion, but also replaced by organisms that USE oxygen to produce pathogens).

    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      That's kind of ironic, because an ice age is to be manifested soon, again. We're well past the point of "global warming" being an issue we can address.

      • Down The River Down The River

        Hot house – or – Ice age
        Cooked – or – Frozen

        The way things are going, doesn’t look like we are going be here to experience it either way.

        • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

          Funny, I wrote a little "poem" about that (referencing your name, specifically), maybe 18 months ago.

          Yeah look, climate change is real, I don't give a fucking shit what people say about the causes, humans HAVE influenced things, but the sun is of course the primary factor.

          Now, if you look at historical evidence, warming is typically followed by system collapse and ice ages.

          I hope you brought your battle-axe, you're gonna need it where you're going.

        • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

          Oh yeah, I'm super pro nuke.

          Just a reminder.


          • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

            Again, excuse my numerous typing errors, I’ve been drinking a lot. 2 days later, sent an email or two linking to that petition, people really don’t care.

            Here’s an exerpt or two though (plankton ecosystem has already collapsed in much of the pacific). With oxygen levels being relatively low already, it is nothing short of cataclysmic. Ironically, we will drown not in the fluid known as water, but in what we call air (though calling it air is likely somewhat incorrect, depending on your definition of air).

            “Juneau Empire, Mar 6, 2017: Spring king fishing canceled by emergency order… the Juneau area will be closed for king salmon fishing… biologists expect a second-straight year of record-low king salmon returns on the Taku River. “We’ve been in a period of low productivity, not just on the Taku, but on several rivers up and down the coast,” Juneau Area Management Biologist Daniel Teske said… Nobody knows exactly why Southeast king salmon are struggling, but biologists do know where the fish are being affected: in the ocean… The increased die-off must be happening in a marine environment, Teske said, otherwise numbers on the four rivers wouldn’t fall at the same time…”

            “Undercurrent News, Feb 1 , 2017: Japanese salmon fisheries in historic collapse — Landings in Hokkaido, Japan are the lowest in nearly three decades, reports the blog RussGeorge.net. The volume of salmon caught at main fishing ports, including Hokkaido, plunged 30-40% in 2016 from the previous…

          • Down The River Down The River

            You may be assuming too much from my post. All I said is that we (humans) will not be here much longer so it will not mater, hot or cold.

            FYI I do believe that climate change is happening, and that humans are influencing our environment in many ways (none of which are good). I don’t have an opinion on your nuke position.

            • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

              I wasn't assuming there, sorry if it wasn't clear. Literally, just referenced a poem I wrote a year or two ago. I understand that it's too late. It always is.

              The part of your argument that I disagree with though (somewhat hypocritically) is the attempted demonization of humans, generally. Remember, most of these modern "humans" are comprised of about 90% not human.

              • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

                That is, if you look at your system. You will find that you have an awful lot of pathogenic bacteria, virii and fungi constituting the majority of your being.

                Interpret that as you will.

    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      Go on build your crap, you know what they say about God and plans. You make your plans and shit, and as soon as you figure they're complete, the cracks start to appear.

  • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

    Oh yeah, Obewan (since you're one of the few people that actually gets it). Remember that "collage" with the left ear fiddling crap I mentioned? No jokes, after dentistry (this may reference some other things recently mentioned in the thread, btw), many females have persistent viral left ear infections. The only thing (from my research, that counters that is monoatomic gold).

    Weird shit right? Irrelevant, even.

  • etudiant

    The press articles initially identified made a pretty solid case that the problem arose because of contaminated CO2 cooling gas used in these two specific reactors.
    It again underscores that nuclear power presently is an extremely unforgiving technology, even small deviations can have catastrophic results.
    Seen that small deviations are humanly unavoidable, the only possible conclusion is that nuclear is dead.
    To survive, it must change to become massively more tolerant of error, whether that be power loss as at Fukushima or coolant loss as at Kakrapor. Thus far however, the mythical quest for 'efficiency' continues to drive the industry towards ever larger, more fine tuned Rube Goldberg designs that just make a bigger mess when they fail. Hence extinction looms for this sector.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Hence extinction looms for this sector and the rest of this planet we call Earth.

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      It must not survive- on any scale or sector. SMR's included. The nuke industry will use the failures of BWR's et al to justify need for their infant industry, but, it too, will fail. Nuclear is dead. Grasping at straws- meltdowns, leaks, spills, scandals, greed, corruption, silence, secrets, cover-ups, lies, waste, pollution, irreversible and indefinite contamination, cost over-runs, delays, rate hikes, subsidies, monopolies, hostile-takeovers and inevitable bankruptcy – that is what the nuke industry has to offer. Every industry is prone to failures at any time. Breakdowns happen. With nuclear, the risk should never have been taken and it's record speaks for itself. Now, they prey on weak, vulnerable, poor nations and rely on corruption and sanctions to hawk their wares. They have poisoned the well and should be tried for their crimes against humanity and the planet.

      • danger kitty danger kitty

        Beautiful paragraph, Hillbilly. Faulkneresque even. HHD in HD.
        Can I tweet a screenshot of that when I need it? It's called ammo…

        • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

          …All yours, danger kitty.

          I noticed recently, when activism worked, the nukies referred to them as "screamers"- because their voices were heard, I suppose. Scream on, peeps.

          • danger kitty danger kitty

            Oh yeah Hillbilly. I don't exactly scream, but I tell everyone I meet that nuke will kill all life on planet if it's not put in frozen shutdown. My clients are a captive audience. On their dime, hee hee. I can talk nuke for hours. When I show them mutated leaves off their own trees, they get kinda quiet…

  • Wow, so the drunks and the pot heads and the wallpapering holy rollers have taken over the main site responsible for exposing Fukushima to the public.

    Admin, we ask you resolve this situation.

    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      Guy, does it matter what you try to classify other people as?

      (Excuse the rhetoric, it's for the sake of argument)

      You'd rather want people to stay ignorant, you'd rather focus on specific issues, you'd rather try and try "quantify" (good luck with that)?

      So hey, I'm fucking inebriated atm, I also happen to not be super stupid or a societal panderer. Does that mean that in the "global commons", you should ignore me speaking out against fukushima, nuclear radiation AND other issues?

      Yeah I guess you have a good point there, let's continue supporting typical "intellectual" institutions and "scientists", they've certainly proven useful and benevolent with their authoritarian gestures.

  • lieben

    Wow, so the Brain-damaged, aspergers cases like Stock can post off-topic political gibberish on Topic threads on enenews. They can continue wallpapering small-talk and personal gibberish in main threads in the site responsible exposing Fukushima to the public.
    Love your stories admin. Do not care for the forum much. It is like background noise, with a group of retarded ants repeating the same noises repeatedly.

    Admin, we ask you resolve this situation by ignoring autistic morons like stock.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      Are you taking on Einstein, Bill Gates, and Putin as well? They are also all autistic.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar


        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          Does Donald Trump have Aspergers?

          “…There is a very high probability that Trump does have Aspergers. Evidence #1: In his book, THE ART OF THE DEAL, Trump refers to how his father was able to add a large group of numbers together – in his head, very quickly. Recalling this, along with what else has taken place, there s a great probability that he does have it.

          “For those saying that he s 'too successful' – Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are both obviously successful Aspies, among others….”

        • Isthmus

          Dr Anne Typically Autism probably affects the young, I can tell you from subjective experience that one too many inoculations affects the Hypothalamus gland, which controls the senses. Then the child goes to school and the teacher says the speech is not right, and you know the rest. As for Trump, what people have been missing with him is, he speaks ingenuously not disingenuously, now this is important because it's another step up from the animal kingdom. It's also a precursor to mental telepathy which is an indication that mankind is entering the fourth dimension , Think about it – if everyone can know what your thinking, and you know what others are thinking, your honesty also known as ethics has to be really clean, and that's the way it is .

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        I posted the other day Forbes' list of the 20 most powerful people in the world. At least 4 of them have Asperger's Syndrome.

        We all suffer from the consequences of nuclear radiation. No place left to hide. Nuclear radiation is one of the consequences of nuclear radiation. We all need to have compassion and join to get rid of all the debilitating radiation.

    • jump-ball jump-ball

      Insults say everything about the accuser, and nothing about the intended target (for those too young to know).

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei9K0nw-5pI
    Reactor Under Vessel

    After: http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=16050
    (The nuclear formula for "cold shut-down")

    Fine print: Please note GE is not liable for anything, ever.

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    Lethal radiation levels but no melted fuel found in Fukushima reactor water

    What is the temperature of the water?

    What is the Sieverts of working reactor water?

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