‘Situation’ at No. 1 reactor “could escalate rapidly if the lava melts through the reactor vessel”

Published: May 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm ET
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Partial meltdown hits Fukushima nuclear plant, The Independent, May 13, 2011:

“The situation is clearly far more serious than previously reported, and could escalate rapidly if the lava melts through the reactor vessel,” warned Jan Beránek of Greenpeace.

Published: May 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm ET
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61 comments to ‘Situation’ at No. 1 reactor “could escalate rapidly if the lava melts through the reactor vessel”

  • Atlantis

    guess you’re late on this one too, mr greenpeace.


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    • Anthony

      Funny, seems cruel to somehow accuse Greenpeace of being late on this issue. They have been kicking and screaming against today`s scenario for as long as I can remember….


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      • rainy days worse than ever

        Yes, Greenpeace are the only ones who are STILL pressing to measure the contamination levels closer to the plant in the Pacific Ocean. They keep fighting for us, while the Japanese govt. is trying to fend them off!!… Greenpeace did get close on land and risked their own hides to measure & record the ominous data for the world…
        Greenpeace can handle adversity!! ;) And that’s the kind of commitment we need!!!


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        • Atlantis

          ok then if you cant see it clear enough, lets time reveal it all, would you ?
          (btw i just started to comment here less than a week ago and all those news rush are -and will be- in line with i predited days ago. wonder why ? I worked for nuke accident prevention/protection. believe me, it too late, just forget that island now)


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          • Anthony

            In my most realistic mind I always end up where your comment did – that they have to JUMP SHIP to survive this…. too much poisons – too much. But I also get a weird feeling that there will be a kind of new people emerging, maybe some people have immunity – we will soon find out.

            This whole journey has become so unclear.


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    • ZombiePlanet

      This may have been posted before, I don’t know. I don’t have all day to stare at this crap.

      ALERT: Emergency Levels Of Japan Nuclear Radiation Found In Forecasts Censored From Public. …The first course of action the US took was to stop all daily nuclear radiation monitoring of milk, drinking water and rainwater instead opting to do radiation tests once every three months.

      http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/12/alert-emergency-levels-of-japan-nuclear-radiation-found-in-forecasts-censored-from-public/

      Map & Video


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  • SteveMt

    The truth from Greenpeace. Thank you. The conclusion from this is that all of the millions of gallons of water used so far cannot stop the inevitability of physics. Wasn’t this known sooner than today?


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  • Stephen

    Too little too late – MAy13th, 11:09 post from TEPCO has already confirmed they got holes in the reactor vessel with water leaking through – I think we are well beyond the “could escalate rapidly” state and TEPCO needs to figure out how to bury this FUKUSHIMA facility to stop all the radiation leaking from all 4 units 1,2,3,4 that suffered extensive damage and complete failure of safety systems! Done Deal – they failed – time for the cement trucks to start arriving.


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    • shockwave

      They have to clean the debris first. Then cut a big hole on the thick steel shell. Drop some lead and borax to stop fission. The last is concrete truck.


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      • shockwave

        As balless as Japan is, I doubt they’ll do it. They will never be match of USSR.


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        • Novamind

          Yes, The Japanese sure have changed since WWII. What happened to the Tenasious, Honor driven Japanese? You would think that the Japanese would be lined up to give there life for Japan in this time of need. No Boron/Lead laden Kamakazies flying down into the reactors one after another.
          Maybe a Job post at the local Labor Ready for TEPCO Pilots is the answer.
          It could be that Radiation/Fallout from the WWII Bombs has mutated them into what they are today.


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      • yoshi

        i would like to know with what you are going to cut a 2 metre thick steel containment with? how will they get close enough? arnie gunderson has said the radiation is so high near the plant they will be dead in 3 hours.they cannot do anything now.its over


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        • shockwave

          It seems you have no idea what the Russians did in chernobyl.

          As for cutting shell, there’s one thing called explosive.

          With the lava gone, a precisely detonation will do, or a penetrating bomb will be enough to blast off the top of the shell.

          Then bury the damn thing with Japanese’s lives. It is their responsibility if they want to save themselves (maybe ours).


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          • yoshi

            hey dont patronise me dude.i know all about chernobyl thanks.the lava is still at the bottom of the reactor building.the core was bombarded with boron and sand and it turned into flowing lava which threatened a hole in the water table.so they cemented the bottom to stop it.dont try and make out you know it all.chernobyl without that cap on would still be deadly today.even with it on its now leaking radiation again now.we are all freinds here so dont try and make a ass of me dude.you wont win


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          • aptos

            There is not enough money to bury it.


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        • aptos

          Let alone, GET NEAR IT TO IT!!!!!


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        • Heart of the Rose

          yes..it’s been over


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          • xdrfox

            Elec had become their economic engine to become a world power, now they can not even go back to coal with fallout and ground water contamination. The loosed energy will bankrupt them and spread to other nations !


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  • shockwave

    Not melts, already did, given what japan did in the past


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  • yoshi

    burying it wont do anything dude.it will just go underground and still emit radiation for eternity.stupid idea.you have to remove the fuel first.the fuel wont suddenly stop heating up you know.they cant remove the fuel now so its never gona end.even chernobyls fuel is still there emitting huge radiation at the bottom of the pit.


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    • Novamind

      Yes, But Chernobyl has a cap on it. Tepco needs an intervention.


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      • yoshi

        actually it may have a cap but that cap has 24 holes in it some as big as a bus.the actual blob of mass is still alight so to speak and glows at the centre.if they could do anything with it dont you think they would have done by now?


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      • misitu

        Intervention would be good, ’twere possible, or at least on day one.

        “Now, Class, please divide into two groups. Thank you. On the left, your task is to figure out how to mitigate the ongoing damage to the biosphere. On the right, your task is to mitigate the developing situation at the plant. You have access to the world’s best brains and information resources and forty-eight hours to report back with your Plans A, B, and C. Good luck!”

        Hope This Helps…


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        • yoshi

          again the problem is in front of your eyes.you can have the hugest amount of brains in the world from a million men but it dosent mean anything.they are playing with fire here.all the brains in the world means nothing when you are dealing with nuclear fission.it is virtually unstoppable.they just wont tell you and i that.they do not know how to stop it.simple.brains dont come into it.its unchartered territory


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          • misitu

            Sorry yoshi I was being sarcastic. To be honest the scale of this is almost beyond me and my aim if you like is to get this message across. What you have said is very close to my position.

            What appals me even beyond the gutlessness of the operators is that governments have abdicated their responsibility to inform and plan for their own territories.

            Best wishes


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          • Blue

            You win the prize, It is a fact the cores cannot be buried like Chernobyl, too hot and melting and no one knows what is going to happen or what to do as we have never encountered such a dire nuclear situation.


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        • Novamind

          @Misitu That is not the type of Intervention I was thinking of.


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        • Tricky Dick

          The “Third” group will figure out ways to better hide the truth. This group is for all of you who are after govt. jobs.


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      • aptos

        And it is failing, they are working on a new cap.So every thirty years and a new hat. For 24000 years. They are taking applications for guards. I have mine in.


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  • yoshi

    the problem here is that they all built these nuclear power plants and cleverly laughed over them.then didnt realise they couldnt stop them being out of control once damaged,idiots


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    • Anthony

      I agree with you but also believe everyone in the industry KNOWS that they cannot TOTALLY control radiation – hence all the supposed safeguards and public assurances about safety “Job One“….

      Fukushima reveals the Achilles Heel of the industry in technicolor. There is finally no safety double talk louder than the truths flowing from Fukushima as we speak. The Achilles Heel really is that we have hundreds of Fukushimas potentially dotting planet requiring eternal cooling or they will blow.

      The industry told us this day would NEVER COME and were wrong. Last week Japan said they`d have this control cooled in 6 to 9 months and this week they are wrong. Even they can see now how wrong they have been all along.


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  • yoshi

    the reactors will now have huge steam build up from the molten lava hitting water they are throwing in,and we are gona see more explosions from huge steam build up.


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  • Anthony

    ”I believe it is a big factor requiring changes to Tokyo Electric Power Co.’s road map toward the settlement” of the natural disaster-induced nuclear emergency, Kaieda told reporters.

    http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/05/90971.html


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  • yoshi

    oh sorry misitu didnt realise the sarcasm.peace


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  • Noah

    All humanity in danger
    and we sent the electric company.


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  • Lillie

    they’ve ‘lost’ the water. i’m not sure what words to put to this.. it’s going to be found, i know that. but it’s the having lost where it was going to all this time they’ve been trying to drown things that gets to me.

    uhmm.. and these guys supposedly go to college? or maybe not? i don’t have more than a high school edu, but i *know* the runoff of anything carries elements with it, sometime good, in this case terribly wrong runoff.

    “TEPCO searching for ‘missing’ radioactive water”
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/13_34.html


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    • Novamind

      This has been the fix for some time now, when they are done culling the world it will be implimented. It had to get bad enough first to be excepted by the masses.


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  • Ashen

    REVELATION 6:8 “I looked, and behold a pale (sickly green) horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hell was following with him. And authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.” The time is at hand. This is the Fourth Horse and Rider as well as the Fourth Seal. The First Horse was White and it’s rider with a bow (no arrows) and a crown was given to him; and he went out conquering and to conquer. (This is the ANTI-CHRIST whom Daniel says in the Old Testament would “destroy many by “peace”. Jesus said “When they promise you ‘Peace and Safety’ run for the mountains” – Matthew 24) Because it’s all lies. Does this sound familiar? The second horse is Red and it’s rider was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men should slay one another; and a great sword was given to him.” (This is WAR.) The third horse was Black and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. (This is the Global Economic and Financial Collapse and Inflation that will make ‘living’ from day to day impossible.) Does this sound familiar? Is anyone beginning to see the big picture here? I’m telling everyone who is reading this: If you have a song to sing, sing it now. If you have anything you need to do – do it now. We have to accept the fact that this can’t be stopped now. We may have lost this ‘battle’ but we have already won the war. Through “LOVE” we do live on. “God had wonderful plans for His Son but those plans included a cross.” -Anonymous


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    • dan

      This is the ANTI-CHRIST whom Daniel says in the Old Testament would “destroy many by “peace”.

      And he may even get a Nobel Peace Prize.

      Is anyone beginning to see the big picture here?”

      Lot’s of people saw it coming.

      My advice is to do what you can to help whoever will listen. Protect yourself the best you can to “weather the storm”. And if you’re one of the survivors, you’ll be needed to help rebuild a better world. So prepare now, and learn what you can. Your intuition/instincts will guide you.


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      • Ashen

        Thanks Dan – that’s good advice for everyone who has “eyes to see and ears to hear”. You are correct he may even get a Nobel Peace Prize. He will have the mind set to not let a global catastrophe go to waste. He will use it to draw many to him with a false sense of peace and security. (I didn’t mean to imply that the people here couldn’t see the big picture – I meant the vast majority of people who CHOOSE not to see). My bad. :-) Also here in the southern U.S. the Mississippi River flooding has at least three nuclear power plants that may have to be shut down due to flooding. The hits just keep coming…


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        • dan

          I didn’t think you were implying that people here didn’t understand. Most people here are probably already concerned enough, or they wouldn’t be here.

          It takes time for people to get their minds around this. Especially those that haven’t been paying attention. Going from “all is well, even if the economy isn’t” to “oh by the way, don’t forget your umbrella because there’s nuclear fallout in the forecast” is a big adjustment, and it won’t all sink in right away.


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  • Tricky Dick

    Sign up now for the Mars flight.


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  • cossack55

    I see a 6.2 just hit off the coast. How is bldg 4 doing.


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  • justme

    anyone here able to build pipe bombs? i say fuck all this useless yapping, lets pipebomb the people responsible and their families, took the fucking feds 20 years to locate the unabomber, seeing as a lot of us will have at most 5 to 10 of good health we should make them pay with their lives.


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  • justme

    anyone here able to build pipe bombs? i say fuck all this useless yapping, lets pipebomb the people responsible and their families, took the fucking feds 20 years to locate the unabomber, seeing as a lot of us will have at most 5 to 10 of good health we should make them pay with their lives.
    We should start with TEPCO shareholders and work our way through to the Japanese prime minister. Anyone up for some revolutionary actions?


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    • Ashen

      How would doing something such as that make anything better? I would rather die with dignity than to lower myself to their level. Seriously, if you did that – what would make you any better than them? NOTHING. I understand you’re angry but in times like these the last thing anyone needs to hear are terroristic threats and ideas. You say “pipebomb the people responsible AND THEIR FAMILIES”??? With all due respect – Please refrain from typing terrorist ideas anywhere until you have an intelligent idea to propose.


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      • Deetu 3

        well said Ashen! hmmm,let’s see of all possible reasons to censor or shut down this site, a “rallying point for tourists”(sic) might be top of the list in today’s climate,no?


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        • Heart of the Rose

          It’s tough call isn’t it..
          We are getting killed in the masses..but any thoughts of armed resistance is abhorrent…
          I agree..pipe bombs not the answer.
          But there has to be some sort of protection of the people out there…
          Let’s hope they have guns.
          This is not going to be a clean kill..
          There will be chaos.
          Support the resistance.


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  • Sheesh

    It’s certainly NOT the fault of the people of Japan anymore than the other many hundreds of nukes scattered throughout the world is the fault of the citizens of those countries and I suspect “justme” knows that. He’s just using this as an excuse to vent his pent up racism. The US has 104 nuke plants. Does this guy want to pipebomb the families of the workers at each of these places too? The nukee priesthood convinced the Japanese, a country sitting on tons of geothermal power, that they needed nukes. Don’t blame the citizens bozo.

    These are the kinds of loose guns you’ll have to worry about if it all falls apart. People with itchy trigger fingers just praying for apocalypse so that they can rape, plunder and kill at will.


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