Military unit severely contaminated when Fukushima Unit 3 exploded — Too radioactive to stand by each other — “Only further heightens the levels”

Published: March 15th, 2013 at 8:44 am ET
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Title: PROMETHEUS TRAP/ ‘Shadow units’ (6): SDF members exposed to high radiation levels in reactor explosion
Source: AJW by The Asahi Shimbun
Author: HIDEFUMI NOGAMI
Date: March 15, 2013

Six members of the Central NBC Weapon Defense Unit, including unit commander Col. Shinji Iwakuma, could not be contacted after an explosion occurred at the No. 3 reactor of the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant on March 14, 2011. [...]

“If you’re looking for me, I’m here.”

It was Iwakuma. The other five members of his unit were with him.

[...] NIRS specialists checked the radiation exposure levels of Iwakuma and his men.

“These are very high,” one specialist said. “It will be dangerous if all six of you are together in one place. Move away from each other.”

If people who have been exposed to high levels of radiation stand in close proximity to each other, they will only further heighten the levels, just by being close to one another.

Iwakuma realized then the grave severity of the dangerous situation he had experienced.

See also: Video of Ex-Fukushima Chief: Reactor 3 debris flew into control room after explosion -- Workers 'saints in hell' -- "Thought he could have died"

Published: March 15th, 2013 at 8:44 am ET
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53 comments to Military unit severely contaminated when Fukushima Unit 3 exploded — Too radioactive to stand by each other — “Only further heightens the levels”

  • hbjon hbjon

    The important part of the order was, "Run like the wind"


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  • RememberThis RememberThis

    Human Fuel Rods……

    "Dont stand so close to me"..The Police


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  • weeman

    Anybody know at what radiation levels would be required for this to occur, to stand away from each other?
    Would that give us a idea on the levels but not the quantities of each isotope?
    Surly they are keeping tags on these people?
    Find these people they are invaluable to our cause.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Lots of people will have leukemia to look forward to.


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  • I'm scratching my head, wondering how a technology that is "clean and green" could possibly "contaminate" someone. Could it be that somebody lied? Did somebody go and eat 20 million bananas?

    Don't Be So Sure
    Fukushima isn’t Chernobyl?
    by SARAH D. PHILLIPS
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/15/fukushima-isnt-chernobyl/

    "..nuclear technology requires disregard for the public, misleading statements, and obfuscation in multiple domains (medicine, science and technology, governance). As anthropologist Hugh Gusterson notes, “The disaster at Fukushima has generated cracks in what we might call the ‘social containment vessels’ around nuclear energy—the heavily scientized discourses and assumptions that assure us nuclear reactors are safe neighbors.”Comparing the nuclear accidents at Chernobyl and Fukushima shows that “peaceful” nuclear technology is anything but."

    Well, we know what is really clean and green, but it aint legal right now. (Nuclear power is, surprisingly, legal).


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  • jec jec

    Has anyone heard from the exposed SDF forces being discussed? Are they okay, missing? lost? sick? Someone should know.


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    • Au Au

      Seeking $2,000,000,000.00 in damages (and growing). Wowzer.

      Nuclear is not a cheap way to make money.

      Nucleocats take notice. It looks like your money making days are numbered. More and more people are getting REALLY pissed. More and more people are SEEING the contamination sequelae. More and more people are getting sick from your invisible sh!t. More and more people know you are lying.

      Hawaiians and west coasters are being served up beachfulls of eternally radioactive crap. Life is over as they (we) have known it. Nucleocats getting away with the invisible contamination covering the globe now cannot hide it. Big objects setting off geiger counters on pristine beaches and dying ulcerated and bleeding sea life are here for EVERYONE TO SEE. Now, people will really care and now people will get really angry.

      Stop nuclear. Even if we stop it, it is too late. And that is the real tragedy.

      …sigh…

      It is so sad and infuriating.


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      • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

        actually Au, it's never too late. The very act of contrition can be deliverance in itself. The whole of humanity needs to pause and reconsider its direction. Surprisingly, this sense of humility is becoming much more pervasive than most realize. I personally study many diverse venues for the public's opinion (this being one of them), and noticed a growing sense of outrage at the injustices that currently plague our age. This awareness is growing prerequisite to the required changes. Of course, we must temper outrage with rational analysis, or risk being pulled deeper into the whirlpool of hate; something the hatemongers are very adept at exploiting. So don't lose faith that things can change for the better…


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  • Sickputer

    "“These are very high,” one specialist said. “It will be dangerous if all six of you are together in one place. Move away from each other.”

    SP: I have a hard time grasping this concept of group contamination danger. So if they have external contamination it is "bleeding" over to intensify the level of contamination on each person?

    And this happened away from the acute radiation area?

    Somebody who is a decontamination guru please explain if this has elements of true or is just a bullshit Japanese nuclear industry tall tale.


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    • m a x l i

      A non-guru's answer: Imagine six monkeys playing with a loaded gun each. Every monkey is more likely to get shot, when they are tightly crammed in one cage – compared to they are being separated.


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      • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

        @maxii

        Also the six won't be talking to each other and comparing notes.


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      • hbjon hbjon

        Interesting idea, but I see the six monkeys playing "hot potato" with a piece of Pu. One early report mentioned trained monkeys on site doing something or another. Monkeys can be trained to do a lot of the dirty work by people who have no fear of PETA. Considering what has happened and what they have done about it, the world should be paralyzed with fear. A small comforting bit of information would be that there are no monkeys or people kicking around the debris. And, that there is adequate security to prevent any materials leaving Japan. This could extend humanities existence.


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        • m a x l i

          OK, OK! It seems by mentioning monkeys, you get the attention of koalas and other animals which in turn bring up notes, potatoes, working monkeys… and the confusion gets even bigger.

          The monkey-free answer to Sickputer's question is: There is no "bleeding over" of contamination. Contamination doesn't increase. But radiation increases a bit. When you have radioactive dirt on your hands or your clothing, then each time an unstable atom decays, a tiny amount of radiation is shot in a random direction. This random direction means it could enter your body, or it could be directed at your surroundings – the floor, a wall, the sky, anything you can see from where you stand. If there is another person in your vicinity, some radiation originating from "your" contamination will hit that person. And it works in both directions: If that person is contaminated too, then you receive some radiation from that person's contamination, which will be added to the radiation you receive from your own contamination. The more persons there are and the closer to each other they stand, the more radiation each has to endure.


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Is there a possibility of criticality with these six guys? Maybe they were trying to prevent a HCS (Human China Syndrome).

      Don't laugh. We haven't begun to see what levels of radiation like this are going to do.

      This truly is 'The Final Frontier', but without that 'do no harm' bit.


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      • 16Penny 16Penny

        OK, I'm trying not to laugh but I think the real concern was that they were further radiating each other and that by being close together they were making their health problems more severe. I don't think there is a risk of a criticality but you are correct in that:

        "We haven't begun to see what levels of radiation like this are going to do"

        So further research needs to be done. I will say I don't know but I would expect that concentrations large enough to cause a criticality in this group would be immediately lethal. One place that further research could be conducted is the graves of victims from the Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I suspect there are many mass graves of people who were radiated to levels higher then these poor guys, although again not 100%.


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        • Sickputer

          Nobody gave any scientific evidence to support the Japanese army officers advice to these men so I am still registering this as high on the BS scale.

          If the radiation is already embedded in their bodies and clothing then I seriously doubt a close group is going to experience any worsening effects from residual sloughing. YMMV.


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    • jsok123

      It's like putting batteries together in parallel it doubles the voltage across the group of batteries is the total product of each individual battery.

      Where is Godzilla when you need him?


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  • japan guinea pig

    OK,OK,OK…enough talking / writing !!. For a year or so ive been reading all the comments on "enenews" and its all good stuff,im not knocking it.There have been some really in depth knowledgeable scientific comments,and im amazed at peoples abiliy to express themselves and their knowledge on this matter. HOWEVER are we enewsers gonna just TALK and write comments ??. "Talk is cheap" !! What are WE gonna DO about it ??. Im open to suggetions….Anything….I mean it might sound crazy but a mass hunger strike or occupying Tepco offices in Tokyo etc etc ANYTHING…"Come on lets roll"!!!…..ANY ideas ????. Tired of talking ….Time for doing. "Put up or shut up" !!. Im waiting …..


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    • weeman

      This is war we need rules of engagement .


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    • weeman

      JGP you get at them through economics, do you think the rich have not overextended themselves, like everyone else, debt and the only think they respect is money, without it they will join the soup line.
      Land taxes withhold them, your land is worthless anyway, who would buy, the value of your land has plummeted and you are being over taxed.
      Do not submit your tax returns.
      Half the population do not pay electric bill for two months, then the other half do not pay there bill, they can not disconnect everybody and then reconnect. Live with the other half if disconnected.
      Hit them in the pocket and I promise they will listen.
      Please add to list, we can make them listen, it just takes solidarity, which the Japanese are good at.
      Rules of engagement


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  • irhologram

    Japan GP. This site is as nihilistic as the rest of the world.
    "Paradise was unendurable, otherwise the first man would have adapted to it; this world is no less so, since here we regret paradise or anticipate another one. What to do? where to go? Do nothing and go nowhere, easy enough." E. M. Cioran — The Trouble with Being Born


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    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

      "Nihilism (pron.: /ˈnaɪ.ɨlɪzəm/ or /ˈniː.ɨlɪzəm/; from the Latin nihil, nothing) is the philosophical doctrine suggesting the negation of one or more putatively meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.[1]

      Moral nihilists assert that morality does not inherently exist, and that any established moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism can also take epistemological or metaphysical/ontological forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or that reality does not actually exist."


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      • ni·hil·ism [nahy-uh-liz-uhm, nee-] Show IPA
        noun
        1.
        total rejection of established laws and institutions.
        2.
        anarchy, terrorism, or other revolutionary activity.
        3.
        total and absolute destructiveness, especially toward the world at large and including oneself: the power-mad nihilism that marked Hitler's last years.
        4.
        Philosophy .
        a.
        an extreme form of skepticism: the denial of all real existence or the possibility of an objective basis for truth.
        b.
        nothingness or nonexistence.
        5.
        ( sometimes initial capital letter ) the principles of a Russian revolutionary group, active in the latter half of the 19th century, holding that existing social and political institutions must be destroyed in order to clear the way for a new state of society and employing extreme measures, including terrorism and assassination.

        http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nihilism


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        • Existentialism is not nihilism.

          "Nihilism" is the belief that nothing matters. Existentialism is the attempt to confront and deal with meaninglessness…to not succumb to nihilism or despair: to not give up or avoid responsibility.

          For Camus, the entire purpose of Existential philosophy is to overcome absurdity, or, more accurately, for man to triumph over the absurdity of existence.

          So Existentialism is the opposite of nihilism: the nihilist says "There is no god, no heaven or hell, so screw it: there can be no right or wrong. Let's party!" The Existentialist says "There is no god, no heaven or hell, so you and I alone must figure out to make life meaningful and good — we must, in fact, work without cosmic aid to figure out what 'good' itself is."
          (Or the Christian or other theistic Existentialist says something essentially identical; more on that later)

          The great, early "Existentialist Authors" like Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy argued that the only means to battle modernist Nihilism is to return to tradition and faith (in their case, Christianity; Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment is essentially built around this argument). TS Eliot argues the same (in his case, the Anglican Church). French Existentialists such as Camus and Sartre, however, explicitly set out to directly refute Dostoyevsky (especially) and Tolstoy. In simple terms, Camus wanted to disprove Dostoyevsky's Crime And Punishment.


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    • irhologram

      I trust you will see now irhologram, that none of us are nihilists – quite the opposite.

      We care. We want to find out what is going on. We want to do something. We want to help, not destroy. We do not reject established laws and institutions – we want to use them, sometimes change them for our own collective good.

      We have not thrown up our hands and given up yet. Yes, the world is becoming increasingly radioactive and horrible to live in, but we still want to do something.

      The main thing we want is for people to stop building these killing-machines, to stop destroying us. At certain times, we become discouraged and sound nihilistic, some intoning: "There's nothing we can do."

      Well, there is something we can do. We can find out exactly what is going on – with Reactor 3 for example – to paint an accurate picture, and from there our actions can blossom into constructive "doing".

      It's a mistake to get half the picture then rush out like an idiot and try to "do things". We want the picture to be as accurate as possible and the communication of ideas to be honest and constructive. Getting things wrong can cause death.

      I just finished watching a video of a police officer who rushed in to give first aid to an unconscious victim of an overturned liquid ammonia tank. The officer died, almost immediately. His intentions were good, but he had an incorrect assessment of the situation. Live (or die) and learn.


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      • weeman

        Pure dead brilliant PU239, what a fascinating person you are, in what field are you employed, I admire your knowledge.


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      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        I must add this, Pu239, to the discussion:

        "Logotherapy was developed by neurologist and psychiatrist Viktor Frankl."

        "Rather than power or pleasure, logotherapy is founded upon the belief that it is the striving to find a meaning in one's life that is the primary, most powerful motivating and driving force in humans."

        "Logotherapy is based on an Existential Analysis focusing on Kierkegaard's will to meaning as opposed to Adler's Nietzschean doctrine of will to power or Freud's will to pleasure. Rather than power or pleasure, logotherapy is founded upon the belief that it is the striving to find a meaning in one's life that is the primary, most powerful motivating and driving force in humans."

        "The following list of tenets represents basic principles of logotherapy:

        – Life has meaning under all circumstances, even the most miserable ones.

        – Our main motivation for living is our will to find meaning in life.

        – We have freedom to find meaning in what we do, and what we experience, or at least in the stand we take when faced with a situation of unchangeable suffering."

        If we are to derive any meaning from the present, and the future we here believe to be coming, this may be the only philosophy that will work for us.

        Or to rephrase, if this philosophy doesn't work for us, nothing will.

        Frankl's book:

        'Man's Search for Meaning'

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man%27s_Search_for_Meaning


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  • "…the grave severity of the dangerous situation…"
    - article

    This applies to all Nuclear Power Plant facilities, with Fukushima at the top of the list.

    "Don't stand, don't stand so
    Don't stand so close to me"
    - Sting (music lyric)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNIZofPB8ZM


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  • weeman

    I guess no one knows the level of radiation required to stand apart from each other,


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  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    The bigger question is; what were the defense forces doing there?

    Could they have set explosive charges to spread the stuff around, instead of letting it melt through?

    Either way, the explosion from #3 spread spent fuel rods for 2 kilometers in a huge circle, which means it went mostly into the ocean.

    What a neat mixture; highly radioactive fuel rods and a circulating bathtub of clean water with lots of fish in it.

    Guess what happens next?


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      "Either way, the explosion from #3 spread spent fuel rods for 2 kilometers in a huge circle, which means it went mostly into the ocean."

      And how much of the granulated fuel rods is all over the debris field, solidly coated with radioactive fallout from the rain and seawater on its' way to the NA West Coast?

      I tell everyone I can not to touch that stuff.


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  • I've told you all many times… they were there to retrieve the bomb making materials… plutonium and U-235 in the warheads that they had generated and I even posted a pic of a missile body in the debris inside of #4 reactor building.

    How much more proof does it take?


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Is it true, that having two seperate sources, alpha, beta, or gamma, come in close enough proximity to each other, increases the neutron collisions in each, which increases decay in each, which releases more energy in each?

    Isn't this how nuclear works?

    The physical universe has some strictly set laws…


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Since the beginning of the planet, Earth's nuclear events have always been at the subatomic level,
    Mankind has scaled it up to the superatomic level.
    It's all just a matter of time…


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  • jsok123

    No group hugs allowed.

    "I stand here, YOU stand over there"


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