MIT: Radiation-contaminated seawater could reach U.S. west coast in as little as 5 years

Published: December 22nd, 2011 at 3:29 pm ET


Modeling the spread of radioactivity in seawater, Massachusetts Institute of Technology News, Dec. 21, 2011:

[…] Researchers Changsheng Chen of the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth and Robert Beardsley of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute are investigating where that radioactivity may spread, using a mathematical model they developed in part through funding by the MIT Sea Grant College Program. […]

Early estimates by oceanographers Chen and Beardsley suggest that the radioactive particles would disperse throughout the ocean differently at different depths. In some cases, contaminated seawater would reach the western coast of the United States in as little as five years. […]

The mathematical model that Chen and Beardsley created and use, known as the Finite Volume Community Ocean Model, or FVCOM, has been in existence for about a decade. Unlike other ocean models, this program can be used to examine what happens to different parts of the environment at different levels of detail. In other words, the researchers can use very small grid cells to compute information about what’s going on in the complex near-shore ocean environment, and at the same time they can use big grid cells to simulate, in broad strokes, the calmer currents of the open ocean. […]

Published: December 22nd, 2011 at 3:29 pm ET


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39 comments to MIT: Radiation-contaminated seawater could reach U.S. west coast in as little as 5 years

  • Bones Bones

    Has anyone seen the rendering engine from Australia? It uses “atoms”, or tiny particles instead of polygons to build scenes on your computer screen. I think with some physics applied it would be a great tool for predictive modeling.

    Why don’t they TEST the actual water off our coast? It seems like a national security issue to me. A much larger national security issue than the homegrown “terrorism” DHS keeps spouting off about. Why use just models when we can physically measure it now and into the future. Sounds like it is already here, to me, since I have yet to hear of testing our coastline.

    • Gotham

      Radioactivity – is an excellent “dye” by which this research can build and calibrate their models if they keep testing for the leading edge of the spreading alien “invasion”.

    • Fred

      12 of the top 20 lobbyists bribing the Congress are either direct nuclear companies or energy companies with nuclear connections.

      That’s why…
      same reason as why the people are NOT being told anything anti-nuclear on the government-controlled propaganda TV stations. GE, makes the reactors and owns NBC and all it’s associated media conglomerates. Westinghouse, now owned by the Japanese, owns CBS and a lot of the rest of the media. Do you expect negative reporting of ANY of the companies’ other business interests? Do you expect real journalism? HA! HA!

  • Grampybone Grampybone

    That radiation is already going into food chains. It has just started to begin its way into fish. Imagine how messed up the ocean is going to be when the real levels of damage to the food supply becomes apparent. There is already reports of billions of becquerels in river washout. The sea life really does not stand much of a chance.

  • Toadmac

    “contaminated seawater would reach U.S. west coast in as little as 5 year”
    Seems they left the subtraction piece from there estimates?
    Just subtract 4years 350 days and it should correct there estimate to within a few days. On the other hand if I am wrong….. I guess there was no radioactivity released when the reactors were completely destroyed during explosions and fires (one of which was possibly a nuclear explosion in a reactor that was using MOX fuel?)

    • Anthony Anthony

      You’re right but remember its dilluted. Swim anyone???

      • many moons

        Exactly..In the words of BP OIL “the gulf is a huge body of water…”the Pacific is a big ocean and when you throw in radioactive material it will get carried away….carried to California lets suppose. So instead of having to worry about contaminating the land you only have to imagine that the radioactivity goes away…over the waves…bye bye…don’t care where you are going…just go away from here….
        Now if this was Iran sending nuclear material all over the middle east…hmmm wonder how long that would last?
        This is sooooooo fucked up!!!!!!

      • truthseek truthseek

        Radiation that is
        Diluted or deluded Anne Coulter style.

        Almost like homeopathy where a little bit
        is ; ) good for you makes you stronger.

        …New wave Nuk’ular studies…

  • Bob Hardin Bob Hardin

    This is tangential, but I keep wondering about the big cluster of debris from the tsunami that is approaching the West Coast. Why are there no satellite pictures of it? Why no aerial photographs? All I ever see are pictures of stuff leaving Japan and pictures of stuff arriving in British Columbia and Washington State. But no pics of the debris field in the ocean. There are old reports from a Russian ship and more recent ones from the US 7th Fleet, but still no pictures have been made available.

    Surely there are such pictures. Are they being withheld to avert panic?

    • StPaulScout StPaulScout

      There may be concentrated areas with lots of bodies. No need to point that out to the public.

      • Cindy Cindy

        I bet that’s it! They don’t want us to see the bodies! Our government is really good about not letting us see things THEY deem we can’t handle!

        • StPaulScout StPaulScout

          Are you sure you would want the location of your mother or father, sister or brother, son or daughters body(s) up for grabs? I wouldn’t. I would hope the U.S. government could discreetly collect them and ship them home to proper burial. Don’t think for a minute Cindy that there aren’t people that would go and take one of those bodies or photograph it and post it all over the web.

    • Anthony Anthony

      Totally concur…should be headline news story.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    All tucked nicely away.. it is ..under NOAA’s Marine Debris Program…anyone arouind during the BP oil spill situ..knows what liars… this group is.

    • jimbojamesiv

      Thanks for the link. I’m wondering if you noticed the linked page says there is no “debris” field?

      • jimbojamesiv

        Ooops….I meant to say NOAA denied there was a “field” of debris, and the stuff washing up now might not be Fuku shiite, and they contend it will take two years (the orange line) for the tsunami/radioactive debris to wash up on the Canadian coast.

  • Ruffcut

    Have to ask the “authority” to make estimates.
    NRC and all gubbermint agencies enjoy shitting in our lunchbox.
    Black Friday was a record for ammo and guns sales. Geez, I can only wonder.
    I refuse to buy anymore of their bullshit. Either some of us will begin a new awakening or be fighting the next revolution. It is brewing just like the fukuspew. I bought crab from the P ocean anyway for Christmas eve dinner. Have a good one, keep your chin up and your head down.

  • StPaulScout StPaulScout

    The surface water will reach the west north american continent at about the same speed as the debree field. All that radiation blew out to sea and whatever landed in the water will come in with the tide. The great majority of particulate material is nano small. It’s still pretty much in the top 3 or 4 feet of ocean depth.

  • Samples showed it was already hiting northern ocean areas in March and April via jet stream !

    • Anthony Anthony

      Exactly…Seaweed in North or West Van showed contamination documented in the press the week after 311!!!

      • The debris is already here, the Iodine-131 levels were already measured way over scale here in B.C. (Burnaby) back in April, 2011.

        They should be measuring like crazy – fish, seawater, soil, food, everything that is already here, not the stuff that will get here 5 years from now.

        It won’t get here 5 years from now, because it’s already here.

  • Anthony Anthony

    OMG are you kidding me? Is this a joke….five year…try five days! ROFL!!!! Holy shit.

  • Anthony Anthony

    I guess the five year thing is relevant to something on the ProNuke side…..nothing is without reason.

  • bfly . These poor animals are already revealing symptoms . I tend to believe its from radiation .

  • The most interesting thing about this article is that it states that the radiation is coming in 5 years.

    It was reported in our Olympian bay on March 28th.

    So what do they mean when they say radioactivity.

    Deadly levels?

  • Kevin Kevin

    Is this the twilight zone? What exactly carried the debris that is arriving here in BC from Japan? The Ocean currents, no? So the ocean currents carrying the debris arrive here 4 plus years sooner than the radiation particles in those same ocean currents?

    Computer modelling like that makes you wonder about the modelling for global warming doesnt it?

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    They’re trying to calm the sheeple by dividing the “debris issue” from the “radiation issue”. Make sure folks forget about the announced radiation during the coming 4,9 years, then measure some samples in 2016 and declare everything safe.

  • tomb1


    Eating it is a kind of russian roulette. While most of them are probably not yet affected, there must be some (how many? nobody knows!) which are badly contaminated.

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Tomb1, good point. Contaminated not only with radiation, but all sorts of chemicals washed into the ocean by the tsunami.
      What a mess.

    • Bobby1

      All north Pacific fish have given me metal-mouth since April.

      The most active fishing port in the US is in the Aleutian islands of Alaska, and it had the highest iodine and cesium in the air… the rain and snow has contaminated the ocean even in areas that the pool from the Fuku dumping hasn’t affected yet.

      South Pacific fish should still be ok. The north Atlantic will become contaminated before the ocean south of the equator does.

  • truthseek truthseek

    The totally messed up part of the ocean as a trap for this mess, it is almost like the reasoning is that it is a timed release transport mechanism and likely will delay the direct spread or radio-nuclides by comparison to airborne release and transmission. EG: humanity will get 2 more years of a reprieve from certain and systemic dead across the planet. My heads spins imagining scenarios. I fear…

    • @truthseek. The earth caught in a great nuclear trap. The 375000 MW nuclear reactors on the earth have usurped 1.5 billion cubic meters of drinking water(and salts) daily and release them back with radionuclides.This has been going on for 65 years. This has taken away drinking water from 2 billion people and millions of animals and marine creatures. But living beings do work at 200 watts peak power per head and so their capacity is 400000 megawatts(More than the nuclear capacity) clean power and corresponding energy. They return all they take in acceptable form to the soil via composting toilets or as healthy outputs for others. The 7 billion people can cooperate in many ways with the bottom line being a clean environment. See the rice sowing in the seasons? See the cotton pickings and the baskets of tea and the fruits and vegetables and salads being plucked? Now the whole world is being polluted by modern civilization’s cumulative dynamics which need not be. Thus there is an alternative way which is healthy and long lasting which is non-invasive of the earth. Stop nuclear. It consumes more energy than it gives and gives poisons infinitely more than nature and reconcentrated by orders of magnitude per trophic level and lasting for billions of years, perhaps after almost all of us are gone.