MSNBC: Fukushima radiation “much higher than expected” says biologist — Negative effects to happen quicker than at Chernobyl… and be worse

Published: April 20th, 2012 at 12:29 am ET


Title: World News – Fewer female birds after Chernobyl, study finds; same true at Fukushima?
Author: Miguel Llanos
Date: Apr. 19, 2012
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Scientists are focusing on Japan’s Fukushima area after a study published this week found an alarming development at another nuclear disaster site — Chernobyl.

The proportion of female birds has fallen off since the 1986 disaster at Chernobyl, the study found […]

[Study co-author Tim Mousseau, a University of South Carolina biologist is] expecting even worse results at Fukushima. […]

Mousseau interviewed by

  • “The Chernobyl zone is a population sink, or an ecological trap, that brings in new birds each year but these birds suffer lower survival”
  • “In the more contaminated areas, most birds were yearlings, suggesting that survival rates were significantly lower in these areas than in clean ones”
  • [At Fukushima] “our expectation was that it would take many years and many generations of exposure for the cumulative effects” to show as they have in Chernobyl
  • However, once we started our field work we realized that contamination levels were much higher than expected, even in July when we did our surveys and it is likely that doses to these birds were very high in March and April when many of the birds were arriving to the area to initiate breeding”

Read the report here

Published: April 20th, 2012 at 12:29 am ET


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26 comments to MSNBC: Fukushima radiation “much higher than expected” says biologist — Negative effects to happen quicker than at Chernobyl… and be worse

  • What-About-The-Kids

    So sad. 🙁 Last March, we had a nest of two adorable little birds (like starlings, but not sure what they were) on a tree near our porch.

    Needless to say, it was quite sad and disturbing to wake up one morning to find two malformed baby birds' bodies that were left (by the neighbor's cat?) on our doorstep. The birds were deformed and not fully developed.

    I wonder to this day if this was due to their parents being exposed to Fuku fallout in March and April. I guess I'll never know.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      FYI — regarding Dr. Caldicott's comment about the reptilian brain (brain stem):

      "The brain stem is the oldest and smallest region in the evolving human brain ….

      It's similar to the brain possessed by the hardy reptiles that preceded mammals, roughly 200 million years ago. It's 'preverbal', but controls life functions such as autonomic brain, breathing, heart rate and the fight or flight mechanism. Lacking language, its impulses are instinctual and ritualistic. It's concerned with fundamental needs such as survival, physical maintenance, hoarding, dominance, preening and mating. It is also found in lower life forms such as lizards, crocodiles and birds. It is at the base of your skull emerging from your spinal column."

      Dr. C. said some people have a defect in their reptilian brains. Their fight or flight response doesn't work normally!

      • What-About-The-Kids

        Thanks, HT! I just responded to your comment regarding this on the other thread. 🙂

      • Interesting, HoTaters. There were five kids in my family, all born between 1950 and 1962. My next younger sister was born without the 'instinct' to put out her hands to catch herself when falling. Led to some injuries as a child, fewer as an adult (having learned to be careful not to fall).

        I've also encountered people/situations when "fight or flight" doesn't kick in. Instead, there's a frozen immobility and indecision. Have wondered if that's a lack of the 'instinct' in primitive portions of the brain, or higher functions interfering with the instinct in an emergency.

        Our primitive, instinctual abilities inherited through eons of evolution are actually quite useful on a survival level. The trick is learning that ability of allowing them to take over in an emergency, rather than letting higher functions impede the instincts.


      Fallout forecast for this weekend for Canada the US & Europe

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    I found about five dead baby birds in my back yard last summer, which were never able to fly. 'Later found at least two small adult finches. Have only seen one dove this year, and not here in my yard. Last year there were at least three. The dozens of robins which happily ate worms on the lawn are gone, except for 2-3 birds.

    Yes, so sad. It seems aside from crows and migrating geese and ducks, most of the songbirds are gone this year.

    From just north and east of San Francisco Bay Area, near Suisun Bay, California.

    I wonder what the wildlife biologists are finding in our bird populations here, this year?

    • What-About-The-Kids

      So sorry to hear that. 🙁 I fortunately have not seen any dead birds since last Spring. We are getting more birds back this spring, thankfully. I even saw a hummingbird the other day! Mostly robins and smaller starling-like birds and an occasional woodpecker, and of course, crows.

      Wonder if there are online blogs of ornithologists who might be discussing these issues? I tried to find one today for tree experts, but had no luck. (Didn't have a lot of time to search.)

      • jec jec

        @what about the kids. Where do you live? Locations help map areas I think. So sorry for this whole mess..

    • Sharp2197 Sharp2197

      South of Tucson AZ. Bird bath in backyard still draws dozens of different birds, will let you know if any changes.

    • Dead birds here are usually cat-kills or West Nile victims. Look out more for dead bats, skunks and/or coons, or those out in the middle of the day (rabies). Some of both here in southern Appalachia.

      Songbirds are plentiful this year as always. Have seen indigo buntings and yellow finches, hummingbirds and bluebirds earlier this year due to weird weather. Whip-o-wills are back, nightingales and wrens. What I haven't seen many of are owls and raptors. Which is decidedly odd.

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        That's good to here that there are birds we are missing many breeds.. what's here is migratory..many residents are gone….many single birds…and trees full of chirping males(sparrows).
        Robins down..smaller birds..nuthatch,chickadees..etc gone..

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          Good to hear…the crows are doing well…although it looks like they are not finding a lot to eat…

  • Click on both videos Brian Williams an Peter Engel of NBC News. Don't forget to scroll down. Play BOTH Videos. The bottom one is amazing.

    Did anybody see this on regular TV?

    [ This is about more than birds folks. ]

    Just some of what Peter Engel States clearly.

    "Cancer for children is 10 times higher."
    "A reality for generations to come."
    "It feels like a Nuclear Holocaust"
    "Cleanup doesn't really work… it does NOT go away, it does NOT go out of the system."

    "It's not a ghost town it's a town of death!" – local rancher

  • mikael

    Reptilian brain, what the fu.. is that shitt, and she has no fu.. clue on our Brain at all.
    We have the capasity to be Gods, the ONLY problem is that we forgott it all a long time ago. Whats even worse is that our Mind and Spirit has been highjacked by religios a..h… that have corupted our potential to the wery core of our begin.

    I dont belive in "heavenly galagtical fuderations of druling fu.." entetys at all, that is pure rubbish. WE created this mess WE must solve this, and THERE will be NOBODY else to do that for uss.
    Just to belive that is a fu… selfilution of epic magnitute and our abolut biggest ENEMY. The sole reason for this fu.. mess is covardness.
    We are actualy killing our self and on topp of that we driwel along and fu… our self with a mindboggelig stupid internal dialog that just confirms this. We will not belive the scale and scope, we wont belive it. And when the criminal fu… incharge says we dont see anything, we dont smell anything. we Belive this fu… bullshitt like its the Truth.

    I the end it may be that greed wasnt the problem at all, but plain ignorance in a world that brags about Intelengence and Computers.

    This is the ONLY hope we have, our children and I know that something is happening, and this have absolutly NOTHING to do with religion/belifs.


    “One cannot alter a condition with the same mind set that created it in the first place.”
    ― Albert Einstein


    • goathead goathead

      “One cannot alter a condition with the same mind set that created it in the first place.”
      ― Albert Einstein

      Ironic use of this quote!
      Didn't Einstein have more than a little to do with the atomic bomb??

  • Sharp2197 Sharp2197

    I am a recent participant at this website, I was alerted to the ongoing problem in Japan by a person going by George Washingon on a site Zerohedge, which is an economic whistle-blower site. I have spent all my free time over the last 6 weeks, following up on links and Info provided by you folks. Thank you for opening my eyes. six weeks ago I thought an economic collapse was the worst of my problems, Now I am taking steps to ensure a safe food supply also. I left messages on yahoo, on stories about Iran or N. Korea, saying digg deeper and find the real danger. Thank you for all the effort and links, I hope recent MSM articles get your message to the people, but I am afraid that the majority of people will just brush your news aside, as they are to busy to worry about Japan. Keep up your hard work. It is reaching people, I am talking to friends and family.

  • Welcome Sharp2197! …It's amazing how drastically your worldview changes after falling down the rabbithole, isn't it? Good to have you on-board. Keep on talking the talk!!

  • Sharp2197 Sharp2197

    The Matrix, Red pill or Blue pill, The choice has been made, now I must fight the good fight and inform others, that reality is not quite what they believe.

    • yes, it's much worse ;}

    • Buffalojam

      Sharp – The fight is well worth taking on. Just be aware that the frustrations occur more than the feelings of accomplishment. This should not deter you. Best wishes.

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        I have never seen the Matrix…I do know there is such a thing as anomoly…even in mathematics..fact.
        The glitch in the system.
        That's us.

  • They have NO IDEA how fast hard and widespread this will become, but they will very soon !

  • StillJill StillJill

    "…much higher than expected". BY WHOM?

    Much higher than the lies you've been telling?

    Yeah,….'we' sorta NOTICED that one,…thanks for nothing, MURDERERS! 🙁

    • Not published in the national wind simulation and high pollution level

      Then UP and agree to the opinion that to spread information.

      Is the information should be spread as well as the Senkaku Islands video. Incidentally, did viewers in real time this time.In rare footage, I think this is probably either deleted content, but not broadcast on Kansai local, real information, Governments should be published at this stage, I think.To interpret the numbers? In hours? In years? People no longer 誤魔化さ in such numbers gimmick.

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