Fukushima Mystery? TV: Japan expert says radiation levels in ocean too high to be explained by groundwater flow alone — Must be coming from “other contamination routes” entering Pacific — “Devastating impact” to come? (VIDEO)

Published: August 19th, 2013 at 8:20 am ET
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Title: Nuclear Watch: Contaminated Water Leaks at Fukushima Daiichi
Source: NHK Newsline
Date: Aug 19, 2013
h/t MOXy

At 2:45 in

Yoichiro Tateiwa, NHK reporter: [Professor Jota] Kanda argues government statistics don’t add up. He says a daily leakage of 300 tons doesn’t explain the current levels of radiation in the water.

Jota Kanda, Tokyo University professor: According to my research there are now 3 gigabecquerels [3 billion becquerels] of cesium-137 flowing into the port at Fukushima Daiichi every day. But for the 300 tons of groundwater to contain this much cesium-137, one liter of groundwater has to contain 10,000 becquerels of the radioactive isotope.

NHK: Kanda’s research and monitoring by Tepco puts the amount of cesium-137 in the groundwater around the plant at several hundred becquerels per liter at most. He’s concluded that radioactive isotope is finding another way to get into the ocean. He’s calling on the government and Tepco to identify contamination routes other than groundwater.

Kanda: If we focus on groundwater too much without contemplating other causes, the situation won’t be resolved. There must be routes other than groundwater that are contaminating the ocean. So what we have to do now is consider all possibilities as we figure out a solution to the problem.

NHK: Professor Kanda says the volume of radioactive particles discharged into the ocean is much smaller than the volume released immediately after the accident. But, he says there may be other sources of contaminated water stored up inside the plant’s infrastructure. He says that water is highly contaminated, and if it gets into the ocean it will again have a devastating impact.

See also: Japan Expert: Contamination from Fukushima flowing beneath seafloor? "Could spring up outside the port"

National Geographic reported on August 7, 2013 that Professor Kanda calculated 10 billion becquerels a day of cesium-137 was flowing into the Pacific from Fukushima Daiichi, not 3 billion becquerels a day as he says in NHK’s broadcast:

In a 2012 study, Jota Kanda, an oceanographer at Toyko University of Marine Science and Technology, calculated that the plant is leaking 0.3 terabecquerels [300 billion Bq/month = 10 billion Bq/day] of cesium-137 per month and a similar amount of cesium-134.

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55 comments to Fukushima Mystery? TV: Japan expert says radiation levels in ocean too high to be explained by groundwater flow alone — Must be coming from “other contamination routes” entering Pacific — “Devastating impact” to come? (VIDEO)

  • Flapdoodle Flapdoodle

    There were reports in the first few weeks of 3-11 that TEPCO was "storing" fuel rods in the ocean. I think I saw it here in ENENEWS. I took storing to mean the were dumping rods into the ocean. Even then I figured recovery would be impossible.


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    • nedlifromvermont

      from the article "So what we have to do now is consider all possibilities as we figure out a solution to this problem."

      Is that not a priceless quote?

      Possibilities:

      1) Let's see if starting up all the shut down reactors helps?

      2) Let's help the Chinese and the Koreans and the Indians build more unnecessary nuclear powered poison factories. That would surely help.

      3) Let's reprocess the stuff and spray depleted uranium everywhere. Wouldn't that work?

      4) Public executions of nuclear executives? Wouldn't help much, but it would make for compelling programming.

      5) How about we stop the nuclear power train, which is running full steam over all of life? Nah. Too obvious.

      etc.


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    • demise

      I think it's pretty clear even to the optimist that the unthinkable is upon us. The leaks into ocean and environment are unstoppable. I think it is unrealistic to think otherwise. It is an academic exercise to lay blame to many that are to blame. The result will be first felt heavily in Japan, then in Western North America, then the rest of the world. You can imagine radiation sicknesses and damage to everyday citizens. This is already seen in some parts of Japan. Then food shortages when ocean based foods and contaminated crops are to poisoned to eat and those who do eat it will suffer first and heaviest. This will spread to NA. No wonder they bought so many bullets in the US. Rioting will surely result when the true magnitude is largely realized. The upper management clamping down on the professors are must trying to because they can't announce what they can't fix. They will be out of the job once the public gets out of control.


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Reports here on ENEnews that basements and sub-basements under FDNPP housed nuclear weapon making factory, now flooded. Professor Jota Kanda seems to be saying that groundwater rads are more than he would expect to see from "merely" three reactor core melt-outs. If so, the source of additonal rads is not difficult to figure out.


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    • mairs mairs

      I think he is saying that there is more cesium being released than could be accounted for in the 300 ton amount that TEPCO says is going into the ocean. Which could simply mean they are lying about the volume of water, and he's being circumspect and not saying that.


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    • We Not They Finally

      Three melted-through coriums PLUS a nuclear weapons making factory? PattieB has been emphatic on the latter, and she really does do her research. It's just VERY difficult to verify that. It should be done and it's horrifying, but that is the LAST thing that will be let loose to the public.


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  • hbjon hbjon

    Another possibility is that one of the PCV's launched out of containment and into the ocean where it continues to fission under the ocean floor. The PCV would have entombed itself within a protective wall of salt, glass, and corium crust. But, being that it is underwater, will not travel too far beneath the floor of the Pacific Ocean. The hot water generated would show up on satellite infrared. This could cause a devastating impact on the marine environment imho.


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  • Then there are the 3 coriums… they wouldn't DARE to release ANY radiation now, would they?


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  • Then there are the SFP highly radioactive fuel fragments that blew out of #3 for up to 3 KM in all directions, including the ocean, which they claim never happened.

    Those fuel fragments wouldn't DARE to release any radiation, would they?


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    • +1

      "highly radioactive fuel fragments that blew out…"

      "…in all directions"


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    • hbjon hbjon

      Appears the good doctor is on to something. When one looks a bit closer into the disasters at the FDNPP's one is forced to contemplate what it all really means. One thing that will never change no matter how much illogical nonsense they channel at us, is scientific fact. The laws of physics have been put on a solid surface where they can't move and have been studied, tested, and verified. There is no mystery in the outcome. The material used to heat water at the FDNPP's has been released into the environment and nuclear reactions will affect all matter. Biology can control chemical reactions in almost every case. Not nuclear reactions though. We need to embrace the steady-state universe before we expand humanity into the infinite universe of the afterlife. Simple life forms may still exist and perhaps with a little luck with evolution, mammal-looking creatures may some day walk the planet. What does the good doctor have to say about that?


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  • Speaking of radioactive garbage left lying around….

    Uranium Mining; Broken Promises, Broken Rainbow; via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/uranium-mining-broken-promises-broken.html

    Uranium Mines Dot Navajo Land, Neglected and Still Perilous; via A Green Road Blog
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/uranium-mines-dot-navajo-land-neglected.html

    Why does it seem like the indigenous peoples always seem to end up with the worst treatment, and the most toxic stuff?


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  • SmokinSess SmokinSess

    me thinks they are dumping fuel rods and/or highly radioactive rubble/debris into the ocean. if you take a look at new pictures from the site you will see there a big crane standing directly on the dock right behind unit 1 that crane is even bigger than the four other cranes plus they have sealed the ?shipyard? i guess tepco uses the pacific as a spent fuel pool or an radioactive dump.. and its possible that the pcv of unit 3 got ejected into the sea.


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    • Cerviche

      Wasnt there a report that the debris is being collected, burned and the ashes dumped into Tokyo Bay?, if im not mistaken….. if i am then please correct me.


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      • m a x l i

        That was to get rid of the mountains of tsunami debris after whole towns and villages were turned to rubble. The connection to the nuclear catastrophe is that the rubble had in part received nuclear fallout after the meltdowns and explosions. By burning the rubble, radioactive contaminants would get airborne, so the contamination would get more distributed across the country, and by using available incinerators in remote parts of the country (for instance Kyushu) even more so.


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  • Cerviche

    I speculate that the material melt through the containment as we all know but possibly didnt go down…. what happens if it went sideways? like a gradient?, i always thought about that…. IF they had proper charts of the the shape and size of the aquifer and the make up of the geology under that area they would be able to determine… but some how i think there is a possibility that it could end up in the ocean if its not there already….. measurements of water temperature differences could be a safe check


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  • micky thered micky thered

    Hi there to all, hope ur all bearing up ok. This is my first post although I've been here from day one. First off, kudos to all of u for ur efforts over the last 800 or so days, the level of commitment from u all is truly impressive. The problem now is how we can go forward. For my part, I am busy trolling ( don't like the word but it's apt ) all websites I come across playing down this disaster and any stupid, facile posts that people/websites send to my facebook page. I point all in this direction, in the hope that I can light a fire under peoples arses. Because that is what it's going to take. Until a million+ people are marching against NP TPTB will just ignore us. They will only act when they fear being strung up from the nearest lamppost. We, the people, have the power but most are cowards when confronted by authoritarian bully boys. We cannot easily fix this problem but with collective action we might be able to shut all the others around the world down before they too go tits up after the next quake. Are there no lawyers amongst u who can start class actions against these psychos ? Anyhow, rant over. Take care all of u and keep up the good work.


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    • Cerviche

      "Until a million+ people are marching against NP TPTB will just ignore us. They will only act when they fear being strung up from the nearest lamppost. We, the people, have the power but most are cowards when confronted by authoritarian bully boys."

      That my friend is the best solution that exists and i have been tooting my horn about it for years and im only 27…. i think, either way that was a good deduction.

      HOWEVER the problem there lies in the mental capacity of the population that have not been informed, made it their business to stay informed and the backbone to be involved. The peoples of the world are of the same caliber as the people of Japan, if it isnt reported it does not exist… zero f_cks given….. thats the general idea of the people i refer to as the 90% brain dead, if it isnt reported there is nothing to worry about, and there are justifiable/unjustifiable reasons why this situation isnt broadcasted….. when the evacuation of Japan as a whole nation happens the 10% will grow slowly, people dont ask why or wonder why any more because we have become subservient of the 1% whom we place into power to carry on our best interests.

      Kudos to you on your contribution and for me its well noted for a first time poster, i have only been posting for a week now and im happy to know that the 10% actually exist.


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    • AntonButler

      Basically by writing serious letetrs which conating evidence to
      leading politicians.
      For example Chernobyl clean up time is 100 years from now.
      So 127 years total, with unknown costs.
      Fukushima clean up time 100 years , costs unknown,
      especially as many law suits will be filed against Japan and Tepco
      in NON JAPANESE courts.
      Why it is pollution outside Japanese territory, so in international waters etc,
      It is a nightmare for Japan.
      They will be paying compensation, everyone is now accumulating the evidence from Fukushima.


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      • Cerviche

        My friend letters wont work, compensations wont matter, a release of this much material on a daily basis isnt fixable in 100years, where are they going to put all that radioactive mass?, who is going to "pay" for the clean up?, i understand that the workers at the Fukushima disaster are being paid $12 an hour and when they get sick they are dismissed from the reports i recollect here and about in other findings.

        The Governments of the world know of the situation, China knows, Korea knows, America knows, its just that they will wait until the apocalypse is upon the citizens and may or may not have the decency to give people the opportunity to say their goodbyes. Why would you randomly raise the bar on the safety limits of radiation exposure of any sort by 20%(if im not mistaken)?, the people are the problem in general.

        Writing letters wont work, a global unison will on the matter.


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        • AntonButler

          Well make public that Germany Italy Switzerland Austria Denemark, Belorus, and several other European countries have rejected nuclear power.
          I think that the scientific expertise in Germany, is as good as the USA, or Japan.
          One mistake and their country is history.
          One mistake and New York state is history.
          Every government is worried about Fukushima because
          people said Chernobyl will not reoccur.
          Every letter which I wrote to the UK government or another government in Europe, was properly answered.
          The culture for MP members of parliament is such here.
          Just try writing to your Obama.
          Tell him health costs would increase by 1000 percent if Fukushima happened on USA soil.


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        • We Not They Finally

          Cerviche, they didn't raise the safety limits of radiation in the U.S. by 20%. They raised it by many HUNDREDS percent! Like dooming people to death on the one hand, and telling them that it's all right on the other. Breathtaking.


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  • AntonButler

    letters containing, sorry.


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  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    What part of the 3 runaway coriums and the fact that the entire facility sits directly above an aquifer don't they understand?


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  • Cerviche

    What part of the Governing bodies of the major countries of the world… Japan, China, Korea, Russia, Australia, Canada, America….. THEY ALL KNOW lol, writing letters privately wont help, public letters may do the trick but….. global censorship of this from the mass media sources…


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  • Cerviche

    It was made public in a news piece that wasnt censored that the European nations in light of the catastrophe which befell the Japanese people that they will no longer be seeking out any sort of nuclear powered ventures, decommissioning of their reactors are already (i assume) on the way.


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  • StPaulScout StPaulScout

    "But for the 300 tons of groundwater to contain this much cesium-137, one liter of groundwater has to contain 10,000 becquerels of the radioactive isotope.

    NHK: Kanda’s research and monitoring by Tepco puts the amount of cesium-137 in the groundwater around the plant at several hundred becquerels per liter at most."

    So, unless another source for the radioation can be found, TEPCO understates the amount of radiation in the ground water by a factor of AT LEAST 1200. Well now, that's mighty nice of them…….


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  • We Not They Finally

    How about uncontrolled out-of-containment massive CORIUMS? The word never even comes up.


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  • Urban27

    I would recomend to ask Tepco about the third reactor explosion. It went so high up in the sky, and fell down in the sea!

    There is no containment left in building no 3. It would been visible if it was still there. The third reactor also had plutonium. That makes the fuel more reactive.

    In the building was also a spent fuel pool. And from that fuel are only parts left. So the third reactor building contributed with more than the fuel core.


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  • SOON, very soon headlines will once again splash the words Fukushima Dai Ichi all over. The international news media has only lightly covered the devastating disaster at the destroyed nuclear plant. When people start dying and the ocean and land becomes so polluted that they glow, it will finally be in the headlines. Oh yes, do not worry about that. Fukushima NPP is going to be BIG NEWS again. Bigger in fact than the news in March 2011. One misstep or just an earthquake that pops up out of nowhere and the surprises and the consequences are going to be EPIC.


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  • rockyourworld

    The race for nuclear superiority can only end in the destruction of all mankind


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  • razzz razzz

    Wonder how much total radioactive contamination is available from 3 melted cores? Infinite amounts?? Or if leaked so much all ready, how much remains to leech away??

    Monitoring numbers have been going up, not down.


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  • RichardPerry

    Is it possible that fuel has left plant and is being pushed by ground water and land scape toward the ocean and may pop up on ocean floor?


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  • babbo dorian babbo dorian

    The alliance of GE/Japan gov has done perfect…..
    Now even this place is contaminated.
    Info has become a complete mess …..
    What to believe in??
    Only people dying, fishes and species at Pacífic falso masively dying….
    An stupid saying that take your children to the beach….
    Eliminating measurment of plutonium quiet worldwide….
    This can only mean something….
    We all will die sooner and tour children muchos younger…..
    What else must happen before stop crying and act?


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  • RichardPerry

    The 300 Tons of water is only as much as a 20 inch pipe at each of the 3 plants. We see that there is trenches bigger then this let alone water seeping through the soil. This area has a high water table running water through the melted fuel matter. This 300 Tons seems very very low and how high is the radiation per pound of water to come up with how much radiation is getting into the sea from ground water and air winds.


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