Officials want data on U.S. Navy sailors Fukushima exposure — Defense Dept. directed to reveal all medical problems for USS Reagan crew — TV: We were in a nuclear plume, how can they say there’s no health risk? It makes you wonder since “so many people are having problems” (VIDEO)

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Navy Times, Jan. 15, 2014: House and Senate lawmakers want answers on whether U.S. sailors received high doses of [Fukushima] radiation […] In the fiscal 2014 omnibus budget bill, lawmakers direct Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs Dr. Jonathan Woodson to provide Congress a full accounting of those who served on the carrier Ronald Reagan during the operation and any medical problems they later developed. […] [There are] 71 plaintiffs with ailments ranging from leukemia and thyroid problems to eye diseases and polyps. […] Officials […] have said that, at least for the ground troops who served in the operation, the radiation doses they received were three times lower than those absorbed by an airline flight crew during a typical cross-country trip […] less than a quarter of the annual radiation received from background exposure such as from rocks, sun and soil […] But Congress wants the Defense Department to provide answers nonetheless. Lawmakers requested not only an inventory of any adverse medical conditions experienced by Ronald Reagan sailors, they want a detailed account of actions taken by the service to prevent radiation exposure, minimize it or treat it among affected personnel. […]

U.S. Naval Administrative Officer Steve Simmons served on the USS Ronald Reagan during the 3/11 response, Jan. 15, 2014: “You’re getting spastic and you’re losing sensation in your legs, and you can’t feel your legs when you’re getting 2nd degree burns on them, and how do you explain those things? [“Steve’s leg muscles eventually just gave up, and he’s now confined to a wheelchair to get around”] How do you take a ship and place it into a nuclear plume for five plus hours, how do you suck up nuclear contaminated waste into the water filtration system and think for one minute that there’s no health risk to anybody on board?”

WUSA, Jan. 13, 2014 — Reporter Debra Alfarone (at 3:15 in): “You wonder, does this have something to do with it? He spent time there and so many other people are having problems too.”

Dr. Robert Peter Gale
: “It’s extraordinarily unlikely that it has anything to do with radiation exposure. There’s no toxic agent that we can measure as precise as radiation. It’s very unlikely that the Department of Defense would not have precise data on this.”

Oregon State University: External vs. Internal Radiation Exposure […] Contamination by radioactive material can lead to incorporation of radioactive material into the body.  […] All radioisotopes are potentially hazardous if inhaled or ingested. […] Frequent monitoring for contamination is necessary when working with any unsealed isotopes […]

Watch Part I and II of WUSA’s broadcast here

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  • Q1988 Q1988

    I am seeing a disconnect between the nuclear energy generators and the radiation side effects to living creatures such as humans. It is like asking the inventor of gunpowder how to treat a gunpowder wound.
    I have always asked witness experts what they are experts of. Phd's get a little un-easy when they have been lamenting on about a topic then have to reveal their Phd is in something different.

    The revolution will not be televised

    • SadieDog

      The revolution will not be televised, Gil Scott Heron –
      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaoXAwl9kw

      • weeman

        Revolution is not a event it is a process.

        • ocifferdave

          29 Socref comments under this story!
          I have some work cut out for me! hehe

          TS! (Thanks Socref!)

          BTW, the last story garnered 12 socref comments. I hunted down 12 lovely articles and commented on them while leaving an enenews.com link to the best of my ability.

          I also made this since he broke the 5 comment mark on that article (Achievement Unlocked for socref!).

          What do you think of this on the brochure I will be posting tonight at the store:

          Instead of a commanding tone of DON'T EAT PACIFIC FISH, I'll put:

          "I DON'T EAT
          PACIFIC FISH
          ANYMORE"

          Check it out.

          https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9sSp738t7S0X0RPVi1qUW9pOTA/edit?usp=sharing

          • ocifferdave

            Found this comment under the first article link, "Navy Times".

            Very good comment!

            Jeffrey Irving · King Ferry Central School
            As a veteran myself I am particularly nauseated by the astonishingly asinine comparison of exposure to the aftermath of THREE, that's like in one, two three, nuclear core meltdowns to a ride on an airplane. They tore half the ship apart at Bremerton Navy Yard and disposed of it at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation because it was so badly contaminated. Leave it to The Navy to "throw their sailors under the bus" again when it comes to health matters. You only have to review the history of the U.S.S. Calhoun County and her crew who were tasked with disposing of nuclear waste in the ocean off the east coast of the U.S. after WWII to appreciate the speed with which the Navy will find reasons to deny legitimate health claims by her sailors. Why anybody would agree to serve in the U.S. military any longer is a mystery to me. http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/veterans/the-atomic-sailors/2157927

            • unincredulous unincredulous

              "They tore half the ship apart at Bremerton Navy Yard and disposed of it at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation because it was so badly contaminated. "

              Do you have any links that support that? It might be good to have in the future. For instance, the attorneys for the sailors might find it handy. I did a brief search engine query and found nothing. Perhaps this is your first hand knowledge of the event, or it was in a military paper?

          • artika rama

            Ossiferdave Go for it officer d . Have fun 🙂 we ll be watching 🙂 going to check the link .

      • name999 name999

        I had the pleasure of seeing him perform this live…great artist of our time.

    • SadieDog

      Shameless anti nuke, Gil Scott Heron, Shut 'Em Down – http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XGHmH-l6tiY

    • socref

      I think there are people who dont want foxes inventorying the chicken coop for obvious reasons. However the best technology for measuring radiation dose (internal) still remains a "whole body counter". The whole body counter for before and after conditions can be used to determine the delta internal dose received.

      • bwoodfield bwoodfield

        Yes but the WBC has been shown to be highly inaccurate when dealing with isotopes like Strontium that are highly selective in where it's stored, as well it's really only effective with gamma radiation and by coincident alpha particle decay. Cesium 137 is a partial gamma emitter so it can be detected with a WBC, but pure alpha and beta emitters are shielded by the body and aren't picked up.

    • retali8 retali8

      This article really nails it, get ready for socref misinformation and lies, since he's been sent to limit the panic. Shame on him.

  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Yeah sure, pour the attention all over these sailors who no doubt deserve it, but what about the other millions of people all along the west coast?

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2014/01/tepco-concealed-wrong-analysis-of-seawater-for-over-6-months-tepco-too-busy-to-verify/

    .

    • Ontological Ontological

      Been biting my fingers on that. Again respect to the crew. The laws have changed as to malpractice suits on doctors in many states. So were all going get the shaft like I did. Insurance tweaks are next of course. I will ask for a complete copy of my procedure though. Anything like possible fuel particle radiation effects that may be indicated for my own interests. I was basically discouraged to sue.

  • Stupidbutnotbumb

    It's hard to know something you can understand. When your house is on fire you leave.. You don't stand there and say gee I wounded how it started.. You either try to put it out or run.. After it's out and your home is in ashes how and why will give no comfort. You'll just be happy you got out.

  • Nick

    I get the need to acquire better data on the USS RR sailors.

    But lost in all this is full-disclosure about radiation sources worldwide.

    Isn't about time for the USA to come clean about using DU?

    Shouldn't we reveal all mass leaks of the nasty crap that all nuclear power plants, uranium mines, research reactors, and weapons facilities release into the environment?

    I know it'll never happen.

    The slick PR machine is in hyper-drive these days.

    Radiation? What radiation? Oh that stuff? Don't worry it's below safe levels blah blah blah.

    No, the time has come for the planet to confront, head-on, the entire premise behind the nuclear industry………BOMBS R Us.

    Enough.

    Don't expect the truth anytime soon, anywhere. We are too far gone in bed with the nuke pukes to actually save this planet.

    Just watch….in about 2 years very few shills will be able to deny the legacy of Fukushima.

    The rate at which the USS RR sailors' health has declined should be a clarion call for us all.

    We can argue all we want about safe doses of deadly mutagenic radiation. Some will defend. Others will deplore.

    That is human nature.

    What is NOT natural are the trans-uranium toxins spewing 24/7/365 from all sorts of places that we know about and many more of which we do not know about.

    What really sucks is we can't really FIX sickened bodies once a given radiation threshold of dose has been achieved, you cannot turn the clock back.

    The fact that many…

  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    I guess it makes it hard for them when they have a NRC chairman who is so damn ignorant of the very field he is supposed to be heading.

  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    The stronger the rads, the quicker you die. Isn't there a graph on that? Visuals are always nice.

    • socref

      The LD 50/60 ( Life/death 50% chance of dying within 60 days) is 500 rads. Usually if you get > 3000 rads, you are not expected to live a week.

      I can go get a technical paper and see if there is a link to it, but this is what I recall from radiation protection.

    • socref

      I think we can get an extrapolation from that curve that if you are exposed to 1 rad, you might live 100-150 years if that. Maybe Methusela was the last to live 1000 years because something physically happened to the earth back then.

      I used the following data to infer a linear fit of the line

      (dose rads , expected lifetime – years)

      (10, 75)
      (500, 0.16)
      (3000, 0.19)

      Dose = -6.1224 * years + 3061.2 R^2 =1 (perfect linear fit)

      So Zero dose is 3061.1/6.1224 = 501.8 years

      So a person that would receive 0 acute dose could live 500 years.

      This is not cummulative dose. This is just using the acute data.

      Thanks

      • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

        Seems like the cummulative rate would be more pertanant for us right now, but thanks for trying. Also…thanks for acknowledging that Uranium WAS released from Fuki. It was fun prying that out of you!

        • socref

          I didnt say it wasnt released as an absolute. Just that the 185 keV signature that is specific for uranium wasnt in the plume they measured at UC Berkeley.

          I am still trying to find the link to that reference. I should have wrote it down.

          Also the cumulative rate, we can use DNA repair mechanisms at low levels.

          People seem to equate cumulative low over time with acute large at an instant. It is not that way.

          Radiation effects and cellular responses at the low level are getting more press and R&D.

          I am still a firm believer that "levels matter".

          No one is saying there is a zero effect from Fukushima. Just that the overall health effects are not as deleterious as some would want us to believe. I differ with their opinion here and for that I am called "shill" and "troll" in some backlash fashion.

          Im over the name calling. I just want to do good science in the hope of finding the truth.

          • Me too and I've come to opposite conclusions

          • Jebus Jebus

            No one can put a template on anyone's DNA repair mechanisms ability to function. Thats why hormesis can not be used as an argument for nuclear. From a baby in the womb to a 90 year old man, it all has too many variables to apply generically to everyone. We have evolved to combat the external ionizing input from our environment over hundreds of thousands of years. Depending on a poorly understood mechanism to protect us from a relatively new, cumulative manmade radionuclide assault is a fools errand…

          • retali8 retali8

            Socref are you so thick skulled and such a hard nut you can't fathom the extent of the disaster at hand? All rads are dangerous and it's bioaccumulation as well, it all mounts, like many said this disaster won't be able to be hidden much longer, god bless these sailor's, they really do deserve a fair go and a chance.

  • Nick

    watches stopped on the deck of the USS RR during their reuse efforts is a chilling reminder of "dose" rates.

    Now I guess I have to PROVE that it was Fukushima's radio nucleotide signature that stopped the digital time pieces.

    The point is, why do humans feel the need to defend a technology that will soon become indefensible
    just as it has in Germany?

    Are the Germans dumb? Stupid? Paranoid? Extremists? Dirty 60s loving hippies? Ill informed?

    I think not.

    • Ontological Ontological

      Best of luck, and good point. scary the reports are about what happened. Sure defines a new term for "Nuclear Winter".

    • harengus_acidophilus

      Maybye …

      They were the first ones who split atoms.
      They've learned a lot.
      German chancellor Dr.rer.nat. Merkel has a Ph.D. in physics.
      Now they are the first ones who abandon nuclear.

      It's just a logical consequence.

      h.

      • socref

        Merkel is a politician now and she knows who butters her bread.

        • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

          Specious remark. You know the truth since I provided you with the documentation showing well over a dozen countries that have either shutdown their nuclear plants or legislated laws to never permit nuclear plants. So Germany is almost irrelevant. Good try tho'.

          • socref

            There are dozens of countries that are going to keep/expand/start their nuclear programs. The US and UK are two such "democratic" countries.

            • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

              Italy – All plants closed by 1990. An attempt to change the decision was made in 2008 by the government, not the people. Minister of Economic Development, Claudio Scajola, proposed to build as many as 10 new reactors. On 11—12 June 2011, Italian voters passed a referendum to cancel plans for new reactors. Over _94%_ of the electorate voted in favor of the construction _ban_, with 55% of the eligible voters participating, making the vote binding.

              Belgium – Currently, Belgium has seven nuclear reactors operating in the country. Two of those seven reactors are scheduled to be taken out of service in 2015. Belgium decided to phase out nuclear power generation _completely_ by 2025.

              Germany – Germany has permanently shut down eight of its reactors with the remainder to close by 2022.

              Japan – All reactors shut down. Several to be decommissioned. Future uncertain.

              This list does not of course list those countries whom have an uncompleted phase-out program.

              And he talks about Merkel. All me to chortle…. chortle, chortle, chortle.

            • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

              Democratic is a relative term. Besides, the US is a republic which has irrefutably shown to not represent it's people. We waterboard (euphemism for torture) people too. Your point?

              • socref

                My point is that nuclear is continuing despite Fukushima. But this isnt a pro vs anti nuclear debate. Its whether Fukushima has any effect on the world wide nuclear landscape.

                • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                  You're right. This isn't a pro vs. anti nuclear debate. It's firmly a good vs. bad debate. Fukushima is a distraction. Please answer socref, where you involved in the MIT radiation experiments, feeding radioactive oatmeal to unsuspecting disabled children?

                  • lickerface lickerface

                    That's interesting. You called Fukushima a distraction, then distracted with the oatmeal bit. What's that about? I keep hearing about trolling, but I don't see ENEnews addressing this. Who are you newbs coming in here attacking one person. What's going on here that many of us are not privy to? Did Socref physically do something that you newbs have proof of? Nobody can prove who exactly they are on here without a physical meeting.

                    • retali8 retali8

                      Licker face, what the? Read the recent articles, this guy is pro nuke and a misinformation and a manipulation specialist.

                    • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                      lickerface(socref?): no no, you know what's interesting? I searched about 50 threads in different forums, going back looking for you and I can't find you on any other page except this one. Why is that? If you have an earlier post to the ones on this page in another thread, I'd surely like to see it. You can reply with the link if you'd be so kind. Quite a coincidence that socref disappears and you show up insinuating I'm a newb and attacking people. And as you can see, I'm not the only one who noticed something odd.

                      So mr. lickerface, if you'd be ever so kind, please post a response with a link pointing to one of your earlier posts, not on this page. Thank you.

            • gottagetoffthegrid

              yep Russia is going to build South Africa 8 new reactors:

              http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-14/how-putin-conquered-south-africa

        • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

          Information I gave socref several days ago:

          Countries that have enacted a nuclear power phase-out:
          Austria (1978)
          Italy (1987)
          Belgium (1999)
          Germany (2000)

          Austria and Spain have gone so far as to enact laws prohibiting ever building new nuclear power stations. And as of today, countries such as Australia, Austria, Denmark, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Portugal, Israel, Malaysia, New Zealand, and Norway have no nuclear power reactors and remain opposed to nuclear power.

          Austria – In 1972, the German company KWU began construction of the Zwentendorf Nuclear Power Plant. In 1976, two years prior to the nuclear power plant opening, the government began a program to _educate_ its citizens on the _benefits_ and _safety_ of nuclear power. However, this campaign began a public discussion that led to large _demonstrations_ against the Zwentendorf plant in 1977. On 15 December 1978, the Austrian Parliament voted in favor of a ban (BGBI. No. 676) on using nuclear fission for Austria’s energy supply. They won’t even allow nuclear material in or through Austria.

          CONT'D BELOW

          • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

            Sorry, my post parts got reversed.

          • socref

            Most of those countries are at zero net population growth and are stagnated/established/receeding economies.

            The countries that have a net positive population growth (exponential) that need a lot of electricity to move out of the Third World staus or push their manufacturing (China) ahead.

          • bo bo

            Anne, do you have that link that directly correlates introduction of nuclear energy to a country and its subsequent population decline and recession/slowed economic growth? I forgot to save it and have been meaning to ask you. Thank you always. Bo.

        • harengus_acidophilus

          Experimental psychology with parrots

          > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
          > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

          Thank you for your demonstration.

          h.

    • socref

      Ever hear of the Philadelphia Experiment?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment

      I would think that the USS Regan was somehow affected by the Golden Triangle (like the Bermuda Triangle) with a large EMP or large EM field.

      A large EMP or EM field would stop a watch with EM components.

      A large radiation dose would have people throwing up on the ship that instant. No signs of acute radiation syndrome were reported.

      Dr. Gale wasnt dispatched either.

      • flatsville

        Reports are that some of the sailors were crapping their pants. Sounds like they got a good dose to me.

        How was today's episode of Pawn Stars? Still no call from your unit at Oak Ridge?

        • GOM GOM

          flatsville. The whole crapping thing? Body orafice' relaxes with heavy radiation dose. So, sad. These are OUR kids. Now disposable. Bet they won't bury them in Arlington due to radiation.

          • Sam Sam

            I encourage you and others to click the report comment whenever Socref dumps
            a big lie here. Do it time and time again. Let the administrator know. Ask the
            administrator to step in and post his comment to the post. This is his baby.
            Lets hope he cares enough about to to rein in these outlandish statements.
            The old saying, if the administrator is not part of the solution then he becomes
            an enabler of the problem. I am not asking for a ban but for his presence here
            more. He did it once which was great. Lets hope to see more.
            CLICK THE REPORT COMMENT ON SOCREF WHEN HE LIES AND DISTORTS.

            • Sam Sam

              Socref is a big fish in the Nuclear Critical Safety field. As long as we have
              nuclear installations operating in the world people like Socref are needed
              to keep them operating as safe as possible and to keep the workforce safer.
              By stating this I am not ProNuke. Lets be real here. Until these monsters
              are shut down as they can never be made 100% safe and even a 1% failure
              rate is catastrophic like Fukushima we all are captive to the Nuclear Cabal
              to maintain these death machines. This guy has given his life to work in
              this field and probably has absorbed radiation in his line of work. On
              one hand he to be commended for his safety dedication and on the other hand he has really gone astray by coming onto this site and doing what he has done. He
              does not realize that he is destroying his legacy by the stupid remarks he is
              making.

      • lickerface lickerface

        Yeah, people were crapping "in the hallways" of the ship. I think that constitutes as an immediate enough effect.

          • bo bo

            Hahaha !!! And he learned about the farollon islands from enenews!

          • bo bo

            Amazing find, combomelt

          • Sam Sam

            [PDF] American Nuclear Society Nuclear Criticality Safety Division …
            American Nuclear Society Nuclear Criticality Safety Division Newsletter. … Peter Angelo (865) 241-4559 Y-12 National Security Complex … was a principal scientist and experimenter at the Rocky Flats Critical Mass Laboratory from its
            ncsd.ans.org/site/newsletters/2008/ncsd-spring-2008.pdf More from ncsd.ans.orgSOCREF-L Archives — November 2001, week 1 (#32)
            Jack, As the resident nuclear scientist here, I will explain the distribution in layman's terms, and apply it to socref. … Cadaver > 180 yrs Does this mean a soc-ref is "cadaver" after 60 yrs of age? Cheers Peter Angelo Oak Ridge TN On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 07:00:27 -0800, …
            pete.uri.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0111a&L=socref-l&P=3260 More from pete.uri.edu

            • retali8 retali8

              Hahahah Peter Angelo socref uncovered, unbelievable that despicable entity, truth will catch up with you, how's that plutonium Fibre in the lung? It was all released from Fuku day chi bro.

            • socref

              Sam, you get the gold star.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                Sam and socref are either the same person or in cohoots with each other. This charade was obviously planned ahead of time.

                • socref

                  I don't know who is Sam. I do know who I am.

                  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                    no need to hide behind your handle. So's not to engender further compromise against your persons, do reflect on your treatment of "stock". While you may have both differed on the issues, using your vaunted position to belittle another was unseemly. Regardless whether you think it's called for, I think a public apologies in order. Should you insist on doing otherwise, you'll simply be left to the wolves…

                    • socref

                      I just want him to have a more accurate web page. Going around and posing as a "nuke pro" doesnt help his cause. You know, I have a lot to lose here. I will just say lets put the past in the past. Fair enough?

                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      actually socref, you have much more to loose than you apparently realized. In truth, I was genuinely looking forward to a more measured presentation on your part. Instead, I discovered an unprofessional reactionary, who was more preoccupied with shoring-up his career and profession, then getting at the truth. Had you been less of a bull in the china shop, you could've developed a productive relationship with those who frequent this site. Many individuals who are hell-bent on using this site for their own pet issues. We all do our best to keep these forums respectful and balanced. That allows opportunity for all; including you. However, you allowed knowledge to blind you from seeing the big picture. I know you made attempts to keep things civil; for that I give you credit. But you only did so to hold others at bay. You seriously failed to show the respect you'd have shown your own industry peers. You confused preconceived ideas of who and what you'd be dealing with, against unique individuals who have wide ranging beliefs. You'd have been well advised to test the waters before jumping in. Simply put: your people skills are wanting.

                      Finally. Regardless whether you acknowledge my take things, I'd advise your going on record with an apology to Stock. Such an act of contrition will go a long way towards earning respect from others and myself…

                • Sam Sam

                  Anne; I have a lot of respect for you. I have been reading your posts
                  for years now and have learned a lot. I was shocked to read what you
                  wrote saying that I was in cahoots with Socref or we are the same
                  person or was planned. Nonsense. I returned the gold star Socref
                  gave out. I acknowledged the good side of this person in his work
                  he did in Nuclear Safety in trying to keep the plants safer and workers
                  safer. We all know it is an impossible program and that they all need
                  to be shut down. until that happens we all unfortunately are hostage
                  to this nuclear cabal to keep things running and have a workforce
                  to do the job of shutting it down in the years ahead provided we
                  survive. This is not Pro Nuke. I was part of the protest movement
                  to not build Diablo Canyon. My late brother in law died of cancer
                  from working at Argonne Lab in Chicago. My other brother in law
                  grew up in Los Alamos whose father worked at the Labs there.
                  Enough. Peace to You.

                  • socref

                    I remember I went to protest the protesters at Diablo Canyon with my nuclear engineer classmates. I believe in the technology and made it my lifes work. I wont say that its been a perfect career, its had its ups and downs. I will say I am passionate about what I do and everyone needs a passion in life.

                    Im going to sign off now and go about my business and finish my book. I think your heart is in the right place.

                    Thanks

                    • "Im going to sing off now"
                      We all will gonna miss you. /sarc. LOL

                    • Sickputer

                      I will miss him. As the song goes…"Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got…till its gone…"

                      The real enemy is alien and killing us from inside the melted cores at Fukushima. Keep your thoughts on that and realize that we're all in this together regardless of our careers or viewpoint. You can't fire ten million nuclear workers overnight. But we can transition the industry. We will need some of those workers for 200,000 years even after the last control rods shut down the dragons. Assuming we're still a species alive on earth. Peace out… Love all you guys unconditionally.

              • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                DOE. We all knew you were a gov. op. Disinformation specialist? I feel special.

      • artika rama

        Scoref seriously ? Are we talking Bermuda triangles and emp s ? 🙂 how bout aliens and spaceships or better yet chupakabra causing tsunami 🙂 are you that desperate .

        • socref

          I was throwing out a spitball. I dont think the good sailors of the USS Reagan are served by anyone saying what they are suffering from. It is a mystery and a malady of some sorts. I dont think its a group psychosis, maybe stress-induced. I can only comment on what I know, that is the airborne plume was pointed inland (to the northwest) and not out to sea. Im not saying they didnt experience something, right now its a mystery and its best to get to the bottom of it.

          Thanks

          PS I dont believe in ancient aliens the TV show. There is some next level stuff though that no one can explain.

          • Jebus Jebus

            USS Carrier Ronald Reagan Passes Through Radioactive Plume Off Japan Coast – March 14, 2011

            The aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan and other US Navy ships in the waters off the quake zone in eastern Japan were repositioned after the detection of a low-level radiation plume from the troubled Fukushima nuclear plant located 100 miles away.

            According to 7th Fleet Commander and Spokesman Jeff Davis, the ships were moved away from the downwind direction of the plant as a precautionary measure on Sunday.

            The carrier is one of seven US Navy ships that were quickly moved to the eastern coast of Japan to assist with relief operations after Friday's earthquake and tsunami.

            The ship's crew was exposed to a very low level of radiation.

            http://abcnews.go.com/International/uss-carrier-ronald-reagan-moved-detecting-radioactive-plume/story?id=13129409

      • GOM GOM

        socref. Really? The Golden Triangle? I truly think you should not post regarding anything to do with our military being harmed in any way.

  • danger kitty danger kitty

    @James T: Lighten up, man, nobody but the worst of the nuke pukes 'deserves' to be dosed at all by radiation. You should be hopeful that this issue will be the wedge that breaks the story to the public. They should be able to connect the dots.

    • socref

      No one deserves to be dosed regardless of who they are. One of the things we take away from Fukushima was the involuntary exposure of the public regardless of level. This must be avoided at all costs and no one is gleeful in anyone's misfortune. When an accident like Chernobyl and Fukushima happen, the voices that come out of the woodwork first always call for the head of someone tied to nuclear on a platter.

      • Bananium Bananium

        I can understand why. Where's the accountability?

        Even if it was an accident, it's still mass murder. And what about the on-going cover-up?

        It's completely understandable why people would be calling for some heads. Not only is there no accountability, the propaganda is pervasive and beyond even that, more nuclear plants are being built. There are even paid trolls running around. Outrageous is an understatement!

        If corporations and governments can't be trusted with this technology, it shouldn't be in their hands. Period. You wouldn't give a knife to a baby, would you?

        It's not like we have a choice anyway. We're treated like live-stock. There certainly are a lot of sheep running around, but that's only true because they were engineered to be.

        It's so ironic, you know, that the way we generate electricity has led to such dark times.

  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    "It’s very unlikely that the Department of Defense would not have precise data on this.”

    How about "it is well known that they DO have very precise data".

    They did multiple flyovers…every day, taking readings.

    They had readings from the military bases over in Japan. They had the exact latitude and longitide of the readings.

    Oh…they knew all right.

      • Ontological Ontological

        Nice, SD thanks for that. Problem with a lie is you have to remember who you lied to every time you lie. Then you have to lie to cover the first lie, and remember who you lied to again, thus covering the 2nd lie to cover the other person you lied to etc. Explains the red tape.

        • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

          And explains the blackouts on the FOIA docs.

          The BIG question is…who is doing the editing on those docs?

        • socref

          The government is like that large dragon that flails down the street during the chinese new year's parade. It bumps into things, and meanders seemingly nowhere, but it does find its path. The wheels of progress turn slow there, but they do turn. The blackouts on the FOIA are for the protection of national security or personal information.

          • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

            Coming from a government operative this means nothing.

          • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

            The flailing dragon. Man…You must mean the rock group Imagine Dragons. They have a neat little tune called Radioactivity. Check it out! Youtube.

            I've heard that position before socref, and I, like Robert Kennedy, don't believe in it.

            How could the NRC meetings, talking about what is possibly going on at Fukushima, be a National Security Issue? It's not like they blacked out alot of names…no…only a few. It's the long paragraphs that got axed about something…no doubt…really really scarry!

            Some one, who holds a very very high position in that great big grand old world scene, knows just what to black out. NSA? CIA? GE? JPMorgan?

            Is this the elusive "string puller" people have always talked about? Or his right hand man?

    • socref

      Yet the direction of the airborne plume was INWARD and not outward to the ocean.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      In the foia's linked below, besides the pages listed , there are multiple pages showing the rad levels during the time the Navy was helping.
      http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1214/ML121450092.html
      http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1214/ML12145A063.pdf
      Page 278-281 speaks to re-criticality
      Page 291 Event raised to level 7 April 12, 2011
      Page 295 spraying of shielding
      Page 311 speaks to burned reactor 4
      Page 371 Iodine-131 makes it to the USA
      Page 521 gave password protected area to post radiation levels in USA
      Page 523,524,525, 526, spent fuel pool 4
      Page 528 Analysis of Radiation Dose Above Fukushima 4 Spent Fuel Pool
      Page 534, 535 Reactor status and plumes and SFP damage
      Pages 545,546 Upcoming releases from damaged SF pools
      Page 575 Radioactive Iodine detected in USA from Fukushima
      Page 647 Radioactive Iodine 131 detected in air USA
      Page 655, 656 Dumping of radioactive waste in to Pacific

      • socref

        You have to realize that in the early hours, information was sketchy. I read pages 278-281 regarding re-criticality and its not clear there was an original criticality after the reactors were shut down with all rods in. I believe their reference to "recriticality" have to do with inadvertently establishing a self-sustaining chain reaction that is not subcritical.

        • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

          The only reason why it was sketchy was because of all the damn LIES and half truths TEPCO was putting out, because TEPCO has something very big and very nasty to hide.

          Something…maybe…that even the NRC doesn't know about.

          #4's Spent Fuel Pool, with a full load of "hot fuel" and not steaming steadly after the explosion, is a good candidate, and they guessed it correct, only to then backtrack when TEPCO said…"Oh No…there is water in the pool." Then they thought about it…the truth about what a dry pool would mean…and changed their mind. It was not based on any fact. It was based on our government saying "no immediate threat" and then spinning the facts to support that knee jerk reaction, which they had to so desperately support.

  • Sickputer

    My what a difference a year makes…ten billion dead sea creatures, eagles, seals, salmon, sardines, and Monarch butterflies in distress. So now they retract what they did almost a year ago to the day:

    http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/nation/a-lasting-legacy-of-the-fukushima-rescue-mission-part-1-radioactive-contamination-of-americ

    "The Department of Defense has decided to walk away from an unprecedented medical registry of nearly 70,000 American service members, civilian workers, and their families caught in the radioactive clouds blowing from the destroyed nuclear power plants at Fukushima Daiichi in Japan.

    The decision to cease updating the registry means there will be no way to determine if patterns of health problems emerge among the members of the Marines, Army, Air Force, Corps of Engineers, and Navy stationed at 63 installations in Japan with their families. In addition, it leaves thousands of sailors and Marines in the USS Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group 7 on their own when it comes to determining if any of them are developing problems caused by radiation exposure."

    SP: We are watching you BB…better than you watch us. You can't handle the scrutiny of the Information Era. You know the power of nukes. We know the power of light pixels transmitted through the very network you built to survive a nuclear war. Comes in handy now.

  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Now, we are seeing these fireballs falling from the sky. More to consider as we are hearing reports telling us to, Duck and Cover.

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/1950s-duck-and-cover-defense-returns/#hTYZpxjKzv2zIKMt.99

    So, we got radiation coming in from one direction, and meteors coming in from another. Sick sailors, and a dying nation of lemmings about to panic and run off the cliff.

    Some fun in the ever changing world, eh!

    Are YOU ready to hunker down and shelter in place for months?

    http://www.ki4u.com/guide.htm

    http://inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com/2011/06/17/radiation-toxicity-antidotes/

    .

    • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

      James,

      We can Fear this…Fear that…Fear death.

      Well…screw Fear.

      When it comes, I will go out and stand on the cliff and breath it all in. I refuse to hide.

    • Ontological Ontological

      JT, Comet ISON debris perhaps.
      This is beginning to remind me of a muster drill, only the passengers, and crew are ordered, to hurl themselves overboard. And the ship sails on ahead full, completely abandoned; life boats still secured on deck. This is space ship Earth, we all live on her, we cant simply jump ship, and expect to survive.

    • GOM GOM

      When will the lemmings run to the bunkers? And make it look as if they are still topside?

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    THE SYMPTOMS TELL ALL . . .

    Sailors got nuked. People in U.S. got nuked .. tons and tons non-stop radiation .. that's what happened.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Other symptoms socref!
      http://www.google.com/search?q=Iraq+DU+deformities&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SRDTUpvTKMjCoATr2IGwBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ
      #1 Please tell me how you plan to heal these people seen in these pictures?
      #2 Please tell me if, coal ash, forest smoke, cigarettes, gasoline, or…Radiation Contamination in the form of depleted uranium caused these cancers and deformities?
      Same questions for these too! OK!
      http://www.google.com/search?q=Chernobyl+deformities&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=kBHTUtq7Co_1oASYj4DYDA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ
      Lastly are these people below complaining about coal ash, gasoline, cigarettes, oil or Radiation Contamination? Answer the same questions please, thanks!
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2483484/Toxic-nuclear-waste-dumped-illegally-Mafia-blamed-surge-cancers-southern-Italy.html

      The biggest mistake you Nuke Puke boys and girls did besides polluting the entire planet beyond repair was to use the same radiation contamination in a visual war room scenario that exposed the complete truth about the negative cancer causing effects of the exact same Nuclear waste created by the Nuclear Power Industry worldwide.
      Thus you played your hand and you have unknowingly shown/exposed the entire world to the truth!
      We should/need to shut you (all Nuclear Operations) down immediately worldwide via International Law!
      WE do not want to play with you…

      • harengus_acidophilus

        The force of USER AGENT STRINGS

        Think about, your link:
        http://www.google.com/search?q=Iraq+DU+deformities&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SRDTUpvTKMjCoATr2IGwBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ
        should be truncated like this:
        http://www.google.com/search?q=Iraq+DU+deformities
        or you tell a lot of yourself / your computer.

        h.

      • GOM GOM

        obewan. Those pics were hard to look at. Then, you have the average american idiot who boast loudly that "the world hates us because they are jealous"…

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          GOM, those pictures are our collective "real world" reality! 🙁

          They are not make believe fantasy bullshit dangling on some carrot dragging people around by their perceived smartness educated implanted nose rings. 🙂

        • bo bo

          GOM – Footnote: depleted uranium training continues on the big island of Hawaii and Vieques in Puerto Rico as well. Both islands' cancer rates are through the roof, and god knows what else (such as deformities).

          My crackpot theory but I think there is a reason why japan's abortion laws were relaxed recently.

      • socref

        #1 The correlation is not clear.
        #2 coal ash is more radioactive that nuclear power plant emissions on a per kw basis. That is because you are putting uranium and thorium in the air that was trapped in coal for millions of years. When uranium is in the air, there is a finite probability it will "spontaneously fission". If this occurs, there is a distribution of "fission products" of which Cs-137 and Sr-90 are produced.

        Am I saying that burning coal produces Sr-90 and Cs-137 in the air?

        If the coal contained trapped uranium and that uranium was liberated then yes. NO one here knows that.

        Is uranium liberated from fracking operations? Yes.

        If so then is Cs-137 and Sr-90 present? Where there is uranium, there is spontaneous fission (100 n/gm-sec) so yes there is Cs-137 and Sr-90 produced from fracking operations as well.

        The moral of the story is that Cs-137 and Sr-90, fission products accompany the fission of uranium, which has a probability of spontaneous fission in nature.

        But I thought Cs-137 and Sr-90 were MANMADE and did not exist before nuclear fission?

        Nuclear fission has been around since time began.

        • harengus_acidophilus

          More math please

          "When uranium is in the air, there is a finite
          probability it will "spontaneously fission"."

          Half lfe of U-238 is 4,468e9 years,
          ratio of spontaneous fission is 5,45e−5,
          so please multiply this with
          – percentage of U in coal
          – mass of burned coal, world wide, all times
          and tell us the numbers.

          h.

        • GOM GOM

          socref: Answer me this. What, in your opinion, would be the most dangerous isotopes, and why?

          • socref

            Really its not about the isotope itself but the energy of the radiation it emits and for how long. People think plutonium isotopes are very dangerous. I recall Ted Koppel saying "Rocky Flats Building 771 is the most dangerous building in America" (because that was where there was plutonium and they were dismantling the plant at the time,

            There are many many isotopes I would categorize as "more toxic" than plutonium, and more that have a much shorter lived half-life for a very high "specific activity"

            I guess it all depends on the situation.

            Any isotope that is unwanted is potentially dangerous and must be dealt with in the most safest manner.

            I would not stick my head in front of a Co-60 beam during a weld inspection.

        • gottagetoffthegrid

          Soc, as you well know, the half life of U is about 10e9 yrs by alpha
          It is 10e16 yrs by SF (estimated ) that is 1 million half lifes by alpha.
          This is a theoretical phenomena and has never been directly observed.
          So give it a rest.

    • many moons

      Exactly, that plume that injured those sailors came with the same force right across the ocean and no one alerted the sailors to the danger, no one alerted the people living in the USA of the danger…but President Obama was in Brazil on March 18th 2011.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        What's the half-life of the half-truths and the whole-lies the nuclear money folks tell? How long will we suffer from these effects?

        Can science explain this "mishap"as mere Darwinism, the fall of a civilization, a twisted little white cloud of a lie (with a black death lining)? The death cult idea seems more likely.

        Socref said he went to protest the protestors back in his college days. Who does that? He said he is not in it for the money.

        Just saw this movie "Now You See Me." Guess what I'm thinking. Pick a thought, any thought…

  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    And is still happening! We got clobbered on the west coast in the past couple of months. Most RadNet stations went off-scale for almost a month.

  • GOM GOM

    The feds just talk BS to piss everyone off. Their actions assure some people will lose interest. Just wait until all the dead/mutant babies start being born.

    • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

      Yeah…their tune will change when it happens to them personally. Most people refuse to change unless they are put thru hell.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      The feds learned from the wars with the American Indian, I'm guessing. I watched many an old west movie, where the "crazy people" are left alive, while the sane ones are butchered.

      Seems like the government's of Japan and the U.S. are putting on the " crazy " act. Armed with nukes, and LMF weapons and HAARP, and pepper spray in 64 oz cans, seems like they are too stupid and crazy to deal with at all.

      It does seem dumb to keep feeding those wolves. How bout that tax cut . They are already saving by shutting down rad monitoring, or so I hear.

  • jump-ball jump-ball

    'Our' gov't blacked out the 80 day carrier Reagan Fuku relief mission so to minimize public awareness of the massive nuclear contamination, and also blacked out informing the crew and pilots, so as to suppress subsequent 1st hand accounts, of the deadly exposure they would encounter during the mission, but here is some 'precise data' and some gruesome and amazing details of our military exposure, in the startling interview of senior Chief (Helicopter Squadron) Mechanic MIKE SEEBURN, by 'RadChick' CRISTINA CONSOLO.

    At 16:00 into the audio, try and wrap your head around helo mechanics wearing only gloves removing and attempting to 'decontaminate' a radiator measuring 60,000 CPM, and scrubbing down planes after each of 30 missions per day.

    Yes, there are already many sick military people, more to emerge every month, and let's see the pro-nuke fascist gov't-military-corporate-educational partisans try and cover the tragedy up:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcwl0NyvspQ

  • tsfw tsfw

    One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside all people. He said, “My son, the battle is between two 'wolves' inside us all.

    “One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

    “The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

    The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

    The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

    —Author unknown

  • GOM GOM

    Jump. I can tell you the Reagan is/was in the Pacific NW getting de-contaminated in a place where the locals/state were having a fit over it because of a pristine sea/wildlife area [cant recall] Anyway, 'they' had an agreement that radiation could not be scrubbed into the environment, and when tested it wasn't. BUT, when the ship left, ALL OF THE SMALLER SEALIFE WAS DEAD/DYING FROM THE FUKING SURFACTANTS AND CLEANING SOLUTIONS[ crabs,clams, etc… I am sorry but as this crap continues I get more heated. If they have SO LITTLE REGARD FOR LIFE, WHAT DO THEY FEEL FOR US? My heartbreak for the sea/land animals is turning to rage. And I am not alone.

  • GOM GOM

    OH, AND NSA? YOU CAN SHOVE MY REMARKS UP YOUR ASS…

  • tsfw tsfw

    It should make us angry, there's something wrong with people who aren't.

  • TepcoSievert TepcoSievert

    According to nuke-clowns like "socref", the servicemen were all victims of "psychosomatic disorders". I hope the defense department takes note of the dire implications: namely, the military personnel are cowards who develop cancers merely at the thought of being exposed to radiation…. How can they be expected to perform any duty in a situation of conflict?

    • califnative califnative (NY)

      RT Big Picture Reports

      Kevin Kamps, Beyond Nuclear, joins Thom Hartmann. U.S Navy sailors onboard the USS Ronald Reagan were some of the first Americans to respond to the tsunami and nuclear disaster in Fukushima, Japan in 2011. Now – they're suing TEPCO – the company in charge of the stricken Fukushima Daichii nuclear power plant. At least 71 sailors on the USS Ronald Reagan have reported radiation sickness – and are suing TEPCO – alleging that the company knowingly downplayed the dangers of nuclear radiation at the Fukushima site. Of those 71 sailors – at least half have some form of cancer – according to the lawyer representing them. And other sailors are dealing with thyroid and reproductive health problems. So – did TEPCO knowingly mislead the world about the radioactive dangers at Fukushima immediately following the devestating tsunami – and could this lawsuit be the first of many to come?

      4:00 – Ship was only a mile away from the shore for several days…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Cz39TUTQs

      • GOM GOM

        cali. and they were being guinea pigs. when testing began in the 40s-50s, SW Utah was deemed disposable. And YES they knew of the people/animals. sociopaths can't change, they have no conscience. this was malicious intent.

    • ditto for all radiation victims everywhere; just in their head, not actually sick, do not deserve compensation, cause they are just 'faking' it.

      It is all the victims fault.

      That is what all abusers say..

      It justifies all of their abuse, killing and genocide..

      They made me do it.. honest! It was all their fault.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Yes, and since the government tells us that the steel in the 2001 WTC melted from office furnishings on fire and some diesel fuel, I am sure every sailor is afraid to get on one of those "rickety" steel structured aircraft carriers. I can't believe anyone buys steel anymore now that steel has been debunked.

  • dka

    no risks?
    The navy in Japan was on high alert and just about to request evacuation of Japan!

  • mungo mungo

    This ship is going back to Japan…I didn't realise it was NUCLEAR powered 🙁
    US to replace nuclear-powered carrier at Yokosuka
    The US Navy plans to replace its nuclear-powered aircraft carrier at Yokosuka Naval Base near Tokyo.

    Officials say the USS George Washington will be sent back to a Virginia shipyard for nuclear refueling and overhaul. The USS Ronald Reagan will take its place.

    The officials say the exact schedule will be announced later.

    The George Washington has been stationed at Yokosuka since 2008. It is the US Navy's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier based overseas.

    The Ronald Reagan, commissioned in 2003, is the second newest of the US Navy's 10 nuclear-powered carriers. It transported relief supplies to northeastern Japan after the 2011 earthquake and tsunami.

    The navy says the replacement is part of its pivot toward the Asia-Pacific region. The navy also plans to transfer the nuclear-powered carrier Theodore Roosevelt from the Atlantic to the Pacific.

    The navy says most capable warships will need to be deployed in the region to maintain security there.

    Analysts say the US is trying to enhance its vigilance against China, which has stepped up its maritime activities.
    Jan. 15, 2014 – Updated 16:41 UTC

  • Nick

    The nuclear lies will be revealed.

    I have a certain feeling about that.

    Problem is, many of us will be dead or dying before the rest of humanity realizes it.

    Kinda sucks doesn't it?

  • name999 name999

    it really sucks…

  • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

    How does someone (Dr. Robert Peter Gale) go from being one of the foremost experts in treating radiation burns & poisoning & cancer to being a Fukushima denier?

    For the last couple of years he's been saying things like, "Radioactivity is in our food and our water, even in our bodies. It is part of our makeup and causes no known harm."
    and,
    " Because radon-222 is a gas, it can be inhaled, and the radioactive alpha particles it releases can be highly damaging to the lungs.[…] The Environmental Protection Agency estimates that radon causes about 21,000 of the approximately 160,000 lung cancer deaths in the United States each year. " [1]

    So, natural Radon can kill you. Three nuclear reactors exploding, melting down and burning up, releasing massive amounts of particles into the environment? Completely harmless.

    [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-peter-gale/radiation_b_2949972.html

  • many moons

    If such a large amount of radiation hit the USS Ronald Reagan that it caused watches to stop, why weren't the US armed forces able to track this huge plume able to cause immediate sickness?

    How wide was the plume? When did it reach the US and how did the level of radioactive concentration lessen?

    And if it didn't lessen, how many people did it effect and where?

    I can't believe that it took three years to cross the pacific when air travels the entire globe in much less time.

    I remember reading reports about Chinese pollution taking exactly 5 days to reach the USA.

    I think that plume hit the USA about the time President Obama was reaching Brazil…March 18th 2011.

    • artika rama

      Many moons it's been calculated that it would take aproximately between 3and 7 days according to some estimates for the plume to reach the US west coast .

      • many moons

        So reactor number 3 blew up on the 15th of March, (March 18th Obama reached Brazil) it took between 3-7 days before the plume reached the USA and moved across the country.

        I wonder how wide that plume was…we know what effects it had on the sailors, could it have had any less of an effect on the US population?

        • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

          The damn plume snakes around in a spiral trajectory…mostly sticking together in long strands. It whips down and burns a bit here…sorta like a tornado touching down and jumping back up…then burns there…burns the tops of rises…concentrates up creak beds…gathers in bushy areas…gets caught and swirls on the downwind backside of fences and houses. Look around a bit and you can see it.

    • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

      Watches to stop? Wow! I didn't hear that.

  • Radiation fries electronics.. That is why the robots died and drones crashed at Fukushima.

  • utahruss utahruss

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj0L6mxbusk

    Just cause its radioactive doesn't mean its not reacting CHEMICALLY

    HELLO Did anyone stop to consider that USS Reagan Sailors, (and the sardines and phytoplankton etc.) were exposed to Hydrofluoric Acid? Uranyl Floride? Uranium HexaFlouride? Uranium Dioxide? Plutonium Hexaflouride? Plutonium Dioxide?

    http://fukushimatruths.freeforums.net/

  • pkjn

    Lawmakers seek data on sailors' exposure to Fukushima radiation
    Jan. 14, 2014 Military Times
    House and Senate want answers on whether United States Ship sailors received radiation while supporting humanitarian operations in Japan following the Fukushima disaster.

    In the fiscal 2014 omnibus budget bill, House and Senate direct Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs to provide House and Senate a full accounting of those who served on United States Ship during the Fukushima disaster and any medical problems United States Ship sailors later developed.

    United States Ship sailors have filed the lawsuit against Tokyo Electric, alleging United States Ship sailors suffered medical problems as a result of exposure to radiation leaked from the Fukushima plant.
    The lawsuit has 71 plaintiffs with ailments ranging from leukemia and thyroid problems to eye diseases and polyps.

    http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140114/NEWS/301140016/Lawmakers-seek-data-sailors-exposure-Fukushima-radiation

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