Nebraska nuke plant totally surrounded by floodwaters: How can Omaha levees hold? Dykes designed for a few weeks of water — 3-4 months expected, with 5+ foot rise

Published: June 14th, 2011 at 8:07 pm ET
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WOWT, June 13: Nuclear plant “almost like a castle surrounded by a moat”

Journal Star, June 14: “Farther south, near Fort Calhoun, farmland and the nuclear power plant are surrounded by floodwaters, [Governor] Heineman said.”

See troubling video from June 6 at Action 3 News

Published: June 14th, 2011 at 8:07 pm ET
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133 comments to Nebraska nuke plant totally surrounded by floodwaters: How can Omaha levees hold? Dykes designed for a few weeks of water — 3-4 months expected, with 5+ foot rise

  • SteveMT

    Unlike Fukushima, at least this water is fresh.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Have there been any details about how vulnerable this is to maintain its cooling anywhere? This is not looking good at all.

    • jump-ball jump-ball

      I’ve been reading Omaha TV news since last Friday’s broadcast of a close-up, boatride video of the sandbagged FORT CALHOUN nuclear site, almost surrounded by water and looking like a U.S. version of potential Fuku-type cooling system disaster hiding in plain sight.

      http://www.action3news.com/category/90437/news

      In general and in brief:

      * The Missouri River flood level has been rising at 8-10 inches/day, and is predicted to rise 4-6 more feet by next Saturday.

      * Omaha’s Eppley Field airport is being sandbagged and runways are predicted to be 10 feet below next Saturday’s flood level. Not sure how arriving passengers are transported out over the levee to the nearest available roads or transportation.

      * Volunteer sandbaggers for various areas are being recruited, required to be at least 19 years old and bring and wear specified equipment and clothes.

      * Several already-sandbagged facilities are reporting water now coming UP through the ground; after you hold the water back, you next have to keep the water down.

      * The FORT CALHOUN spent fuel pool is in the ground, but being in the ground UNDER the Missouri River is not all good and wasn’t in the Combustion Engineering/Westinghouse design and operating plans.

      * Isolated rain and thunderstorms from last Sunday to next Saturday are adding to the already-rising Missouri River flood level.

      * 2 broken levees northwest of Hamburg IA near the Iowa-Nebraska border, and the Army Corps and local consideration of intentionally breaking additional levees, are signs of the weakness of the levees and the measures needed to prevent further increases in the predicted flood level.

      I’ve thought for 4 days that the FORT CALHOUN cooling system risk is above-the-fold headline material that will be impossible to black-out at the Omaha level and very difficult to suppress in national print and broadcast media.

      • Anthony Anthony

        Thanks Jump-Ball… and i think you are completely correct about the upcoming strife which will probably ensue… crazy times loaded with dangers popping up everywhere it seems. These nuke plants were not disaster proofed enough or properly including the pre-construction and environmental location risk assessments. If they were conducted, they were despicably incorrect and have posed dangers to the general public. Crazy times.

        • If not the slow rise, but a WALL of water comes down the river from the domino cascade of busting levees
          and collapsing dams all bets are off !

        • jump-ball jump-ball

          Maybe even worse: next Saturday’s high, or even higher flood levels, are projected to last through August, as summer rain, drainage and snowmelt continue adding to the Missouri flood water.

          I’m trying to envision the FORT CALHOUN nuclear reactor sandbagged half-way or more up to it’s second floor level and maintained against leaks or upstream breaks for 3 more months, or some say into October.

          The Missouri River flood is not a wave formation like the Honshu tsunami that flooded inland 6 miles covering villages and the airport, and then ebbed back out to sea; the sandbagged facilities of the FORT CALHOUN reactor, Omaha’s Eppley Field airport, several major agricultural and manufacturing facilities, as well as downtown Omaha and other cities, along with roads, railways and sewage and water facilities – will all be defending against the surrounding water for 3 or more months.

          All these facilities and structures are now engaged in the dangerous game of fooling around with Mother Nature; my wager in the developing battle between the numerous structures and the rising and longlasting Missouri flood level, is to take the under.

        • The no to nuclear power in Italy, in view of the dangers, has not come a day too soon.The voted no to nukes on 12 and 13 June 2011. Germany has called it off belatedly. Perhaps events will decide for all peoples to vote no to nukes blitz schnell. Its modern civilisation in all its craziness. See for example the dire interconnections of cumulative effects on life by comparing the time line of the FDaichi -disaster events with the timeline of surges in daily dam contents(ref Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Fukushima_nuclear_accidents. and http://glaringlacuna.blogspot.com).

  • I posted this yesterday in the Discussion thread, There is a video on second link that is very informative as to the threat that awaits !

    Missouri residents under the threat of more flooding from stressed levees
    June 13, 2011
    HAMBURG, Iowa – The rising Missouri River ruptured two levees in northwest Missouri on Monday, sending torrents of flood waters over rural farmland toward a small town in Iowa and a resort community in Missouri. Flood waters are expected by Tuesday to reach a secondary levee protecting the partially evacuated town of about 1,100 people. But if that levee fails, parts of Hamburg could be under as much as 10 feet of standing water, officials said. The breach near Hamburg, in far southwest Iowa, is threatening more people. The town of about 1,100 residents was already partially evacuated, and water rushing from the 50-foot-wide hole in the levee is expected to reach a secondary levee protecting the town on Tuesday. If that levee fails,…
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110613/ap_on_re_us/us_missouri_river_flooding

    We may have a domino effect happing with the dams busting all the way to the Mississippi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrKy_81KBec&feature=player_embedded

    • cossack55

      YES, the dams are the key to safety or the key to serious devastation. I hope DHS is there to blow… I mean guard them. Odds anyone?

      • Anthony Anthony

        I wonder what the fuel load is at that plant? We have to know this kind of crap in this day and age and act accordingly.

        • jump-ball jump-ball

          Anthony, I admire your frequent contributions, but is there some smaller-sized or better-type below-ground fuel pool that is safe or can be better maintained for 3 months, without cooling, while under the Missouri River?

          I’m choosing to not divert my attention to details of situations that look to me like ‘heads I win, tails you lose’.

          • BetaFlare

            Average NPlant uses 100 tons a year. How many yrs it has been oprating?

            – Average NP loses half a ton / year directly radiation through all walls – all on on the population…
            – for each kW created, ten (10) kW diesel oil is needed in mining, refining … not to mention Yucca-waste-terminals
            – From four (4) kW created, three (3) kW is pumped into the sea as waste…
            – typical reactors sit on the beaches. Loviisa finn-nukeplant, sits 120″ =inhces above detonatin -err- the sea.

            Can u imagine any waste bigger than this, design plan more dangerous than this?

            “according to the International Atomic Energy Agency, today’s nuclear power plants use 70,000 metric tons a year of uranium.”
            …and uranium reserves have about ended – thus the mox-plutonium is now used.

            However, US oil/gas reserves extend beyond 1000 years. Thus US could become biggest exporter overnight – only if papal ctrolled greenpie$ would step aside. Facts here http://wp.me/pwIAV-19 (repost)

            How nations genetics are intentionally destroyed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rc37dRCI4w (repost)

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Thought I’d repost my latest comment at HP:
    Wow…just checking the front page and right away I notice a NEW feature for users AT THE VERY TOP OF THE PAGE – it shows your I.D. with an arrow that brings down a box where you see where someone replied to a comment of yours. In this case – it was CaptD! Replying to my comment on this very old, OLD Japan Thread.
    NOTHING NEW on Japan is listed presently. Epic Fail H P. Epic Fail MSM

    So…if any of you HERE are Japan REgulars, this is a pretty dang cool TOOL! But HP still fails on so many levels. sigh….

  • WindorSolarPlease

    Sorry if this has already been posted

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHZdub3n0mI&feature=related

  • Nigwil

    I wonder if Arnie Gundersen and/or friends can give us any ideas about the Omaha nuke; things like:
    1. Location of circulating pump switchboards re river surface level.
    2. Location of standby generators re river surface level.
    3. Location of generator fuel tanks re river surface level and capacity (generator running time) held in the tanks.
    4. Do the generators have capacity to sustain spent fuel pool cooling indefinitely, or are they just to power process controls and instrumentation?
    5. Number of external power supplies, and vulnerability to leve-break or wider flooding.
    6. What is the status of the external supply network and generation systems (potential ripple effect arising from external failures)
    7. Routes and methods of staffing the site and access for emergency responders when inundated.
    8. Location of spent fuel ponds and any other waste liquid holding tanks re river level.
    etc…

    Of course all this is in the site’s operating manual eh.

    Rehearsed and rehearsed. Any issues will be addressed by a well-oiled machine.

    Sigh!

    • Everything is fine, this is where Homer Simpson works !

    • jump-ball jump-ball

      I’m not postponing personal plans, or opinions as to the consequences of a possible cooling system disaster like this, until such time as I get ‘details’ of what’s happening.

      Some information is ‘leaking’ out as in the link below describing that apparently they have constructed sandbag (or ‘earthen’ or ‘aquadam?’) barriers around power stations INSIDE the sandbagged outer perimeter of the FORT CALHOUN reactor, I.E., levees within the levee:

      “The Ft. Calhoun Nuclear Facility is an island right now but it is one that authorities say is going to stay dry. They say they have a number of redundant features to protect the facility from flood waters that include the aqua dam, earthen berms and sandbags.”

      “…we have sandbagged and placed earthen berms around the substations which guarantees the power can get into the plant to keep the plant powered.”

      “Hanson adds they have a number of backup systems in place to continue to pump clean water through the spent fuel pool and into the reactor containment building so he says there is nothing to fear.”

      Should have known: protecting ‘decay heat’ is different here in Nebraska.

      http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/Ft_Calhoun_Flood_Defenses_123878599.html?ref=599

    • Anthony Anthony

      Thanks Heart for this. I guess this is the *magic* info :
      ***Officials at Fort Calhoun said the situation at their plant came nowhere near to Fukushima’s. They said it would have taken 88 hours for the heat produced by the fuel to boil away the cooling water.***

      So if things go nuts, we know if its after 88 hours for SURE then the plant could be assumed in trouble. The no fly zone is to keep eyes off the situation for sure.

      I almost want to ask `What have we (I specifically) done to deserve this?

      What a horrible legacy our species has left on this beautiful and unique planet.

      • sorry charlie

        Anthony we do deserve this….we are guilty. Most of the people on this site lived through the horrible suffering of chernobyl yet we did nothing to stop nuclear energy from continuing to destroy our planet. Apathy, we are guilty. And even if we manage to live through fukushima, don’t you worry there will be another one right behind it til the whole planet turns into a dead zone. It is the only thing I know for sure…oh another one is banks will continue to rob people whenever they can..that’s a given too.

        • Anthony Anthony

          What’s the way out without cooperation and consensus?

          • Atlantis

            there’s none to my knowledge. Nuke IS military guided (every where and any time). The main points to military are “secret” and “destruction”. No way to have it solved with “dialogue” and “construction” IMHO

          • sorry charlie

            BOYCOTT
            We boycott energy til it is provided to us in a clean and safe manner!
            Turn off the TV, buy a bike, purchase wood…you may be thinking ohhh that’es to difficult.
            Difficult it’s not….in relation to things like…never feeling good about eating fresh produce….now that’s hard.
            You are right we need cooperation…lets organize and boycott destructive energy!

      • jump-ball jump-ball

        “Officials at Fort Calhoun said the situation at their plant ‘came’ nowhere near to Fukushima’s.”

        Tricky how they try and sneak that in, eh Anthony?, but the reality is that the ‘situation’ is by no means over.

        With the water level expected to rise an additional 4-6 feet by Saturday, and STAY AT THAT LEVEL for 3 or more months, the use of the past tense by a nuclear official to infer the problem is over, is either very sloppy, or else downright diversionary disinformation.

        Well, they can’t divert me, and my WAG is that they also won’t be able to divert months of flood stage water weighing against the FORT CALHOUN nuclear reactor perimeter sandbags, but maybe we’ll get lucky after months of fooling around with Mother Nature and everything will go right.

        • Anthony Anthony

          Its alarming to me its already a 4. Think about whats SURROUNDING us environmentally and chemically. This cant have a lucky or happy ending. I mean, what fluke is gonna swoop in to save the day for us?

        • sorry charlie

          The plant engineers knew the floods were coming…they should have built several walls of sand bags, trenches and anything else possible. But like BP, and Tepco the error is to keep the costs at a min. at all times even if it means risking the enviroment.

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        I guess it can be said… that humans deserve it from the standpoint that humans are evolutionary failures.
        Humans do not know their place in their own souls,hearts,skins,society,environment,
        universe, or creation.
        Adaptation..the key to evolutionary survival is not the bending of the Law of Nature.. adaptation is productive co-existance with the very environment that sustains us.
        Humans fail themselves.
        Morons.

        • Anthony Anthony

          This is like a science experiment out of your nightmares in terms of proportion and awfulness. We have unleashed something in such quantity that we have no even hope of becoming able to recreate a world without the loose pestilence. It is a pestilence unleashed, to be sure.

          Man will survive this but a shockingly high number will drop from the gene pool, and a few will reproduce as nothing has even happened. Japan survivors of the bombs and contaminated environment are proof of this theory to me.

        • BetaFlare

          Smone listened the msg of human capacity and where it would eventually lead, wrote it all in a book. Most read opus among us the deceived, called Revelation.

  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    Sorry if this is redundanthttp://youtu.be/afm6zPO5Zzk

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    “Frequently Asked Chernobyl Questions” (IAEA)
    http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/features/chernobyl-15/cherno-faq.shtml
    “12. How does Chernobyl’s effect measure up to the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
    “The accident at Chernobyl was approximately 400 times more potent than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. However, the atomic bomb testing conducted by several countries around the world during the 1960s and 1970s contributed 100 to 1,000 times more radioactive material to the environment than Chernobyl.”

  • CaliMom

    Oh Dear…just pondering the absolute mess that would ensue if there were to be any contamination of flood waters with spent nuclear fuel. What devastation that would be for not only the populations there, but also for all the precious farmland and nation’s food supplies. For goodness sakes, can anything just go RIGHT for a while? I’m tired of all the doom and destruction. Praying for resolution of all these worrisome calamities.

  • Ft. Calhoun nuclear plant flood and fireJune 8th, 2011
    http://legalectric.org/weblog/6766/

  • Granny M

    To make it even more dicey, Ft. Calhoun is just outside the tornado watch zone – who would have guessed there could be both a tornado and a major flood…

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    ALERT!
    ARNIE IS ON JEFF RENSE RIGHT NOW
    MAJOR SHIT HAPPENING @ NEBRASKA!
    http://www.rense.com/

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Level 4

      Arnie Gundersen “Nebraska level 4 and getting worse. Three part video radio interview.

      A wire overheated and caught fire. Halon was injected into the room, flames were gone but the damage was done. Firemen report, smoke was too thick resulting in a multi-alar­m with turnout for major suppressio­n efforts. two wires powered power pumps for fuel pool.

      • Whoopie Whoopie

        While concentrat­ing on the flood, a fire broke out. They figured that they had about eighty hours before fuel pools boiled. Spent fuel cooling was restored.

        50 feet by fifty feet by fifty feet was heating up fast. They have a major repair and they truned the pumps back on so that the NRC can withdraw the emergency status. When the plant entered emergency staus, all personnel have been paged. That system of telecommun­ications broke down too.

        I saw photograph­s and video taken of the rising waters. The “authoriti­es” tried to block the press but this is navigable waters and cannot be closed without executive orders.

      • Anthony Anthony

        Bloody hell.

    • Thx, I was looking at The Voice on the tube !

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      I listened until the sound cut off. Mr. Gundersen said that the plant would probably hold if one of the upstream dams didn’t burst. Otherwise, it would be an inland tsunami.
      When he was asked two questions about the fire in the west switch gear room, the sound cut off and I couldn’t hear anything after that.

    • milk and cheese milk and cheese

      This is the second half of the Gundersen interview, intercut with some news footage.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    LOOK FOR IT UP AT ARNIE’S TOMORROW I GUESS. I NEVER COULD FIND IT AT RENSE – BUT HP POSTERS POSTED ABOUT IT.
    THIS IS GONNA BE MAJOR NEWS TOMORROW…OR HOPEFULLY TONIGHT!!

  • Fort Calhoun’s Nuclear Plant Under Scrutiny
    Federal Regulators Want Nuclear Plant Prepared To Handle Major Emergencies
    April 1, 2011
    http://www.ketv.com/news/27392766/detail.html

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      April 1st. Too late, eh xdrfox???? Good god. They didn’t monitor it VERY WELL did they?

      • The Federal Regulators Want Nuclear Plant Prepared To Handle Major Emergencies so the people say…

        “We’re not worried about it on a daily basis, we think it’s very safe,” Harsin said.
        Harsin and her neighbors said the reactor has never been a big concern.
        “I don’t see much point in worrying about it. If I was worried about it, I guess I would move,” said resident Ron Hansen.

        April 1st is April fools day !

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    6 days ago at HP in Green posted by Jack1212 who works there:

    “Take the fire at Fort Calhoun, it’s been played down to where is sounds like no more than an electrical socket that shorted out. Well these guys were lucky this time. The switchgear room contains most of the breakers that are required to keep vital pumps and machinery running . They tell you the plant is shut down but they don’t tell you the reactor is loaded with new fuel and the head of the reactor is off! This is the worst place it could be in the case of multiple system failures that lead to the pools warming up because if it began to boil..ther­e would be no way to contain it.
    Circulatin­g water is required at all times to keep the new fuel and more importantl­y the spent fuel cool. The plant has around 600,000 – 800,000 pounds of spent fuel that has to be constantly cooled to prevent it from starting to boil. This is the worst part, this is what I worry about the most, cooling of the spent fuel pool. Do you have any idea of the mass of something that weighs 800,000 pounds is..and it’s radioactiv­e!
    So fires in the switch gear rooms are a lot more important than they led everyone to believe and now the plant is surrounded by water! All I have to say is I hope the rubber, yes rubber about as thick as 4 trash bags, doesn’t fail…bec­ause this could really get very bad very quickly.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Jack1212/us-nuclear-plants-emergency-training_n_872472_91784359.html

    • Anthony Anthony

      This is the bad part:

      **The plant has around 600,000 – 800,000 pounds of spent fuel that has to be constantly cooled to prevent it from starting to boil. This is the worst part, this is what I worry about the most, cooling of the spent fuel pool. Do you have any idea of the mass of something that weighs 800,000 pounds is..and it’s radioactiv­e!**

  • Electrical Fire Knocks Out Spent Fuel Cooling at Nebraska Nuke … Jun 9, 2011 … Officials at Fort Calhoun plant in Omaha, Neb., said the …
    http://www.propublica.org/…/electrical-fire-knocks-out-spent-fuel-cooling-at- nebraska-nuke-plant
    Show more results from http://propublica.org Nuke plant lost spent fuel pump in suspected fire – seattlepi.com Jun 8, 2011
    Utility officials said the fire Tuesday damaged an electrical system used to run a pump at the Fort Calhoun Station that recirculates water
    http://www.seattlepi.com/…/Nuke-plant-lost-spent-fuel-pump-in-suspected-fire- 1415325.php – CachedFort Calhoun, NE Local News – TownVox Jun 10, 2011
    09 Jun 2011 Fort Calhoun, NE Fire briefly knocks out pumps at Neb. spent nuclear fuel so that workers could fight an electrical fire.
    http://www.townvox.com/nebraska/fort_calhoun_local_news.htm – CachedNuke plant lost spent fuel pump in suspected fire – Yahoo! News Jun 8, 2011 … Utility officials said the fire Tuesday damaged an electrical system used to run a pump at the Fort Calhoun Station that recirculates water …
    http://www.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110608/ap_on/us_nuclear_plant_fire_3

    Electrical Fire Knocks Out Spent Fuel Cooling at Nebraska Nuke Plant
    said Fort Calhoun has a backup pump to provide water to the spent

    http://www.theoilage.com/fort-calhoun-nuclear-plant-missouri-river-flood-t3752. html

  • Cindy Original Cindy

    Interesting how none of these “incidences” are being mentioned on the MSM. The fact that there have been 3 nuke incidences in this country over the last 4 weeks and not a word has been breathed makes me believe that this is a “LIHOP” (Let It Happen On Purpose) type of operation.

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Of course we have heard all this before backups with backups and then…. but I hope they have learned from Fukushima and are prepared.

  • sorry charlie

    So if any reactor is without power for up to 3 days…boom.. we contaminate millions of people, wipe out thousands of miles of land…wait a minute…who thought up this nightmare….and why have we gone along with it? Just what is so important about nuclear energy? Frankly I’d rather light my way with a candle at night if it means I don’t have to be afraid to drink water, worry about the funky smelling water in the shower, eat food that would kill me or take a deep breath of particle free air Yes I think I’m ready to make that sacrifice….what about you?

  • charlie3

    Level 4: Accident with local consequences
    *
    Impact on people and environment
    Minor release of radioactive material unlikely to result in implementation of planned countermeasures other than local food controls.
    At least one death from radiation.
    Impact on radiological barriers and control
    Fuel melt or damage to fuel ­resulting in more than 0.1% release of core inventory.
    Release of significant quantities of radioactive material within an installation with a high ­probability of significant public exposure.

    Examples:

    Sellafield (United Kingdom) – five incidents 1955 to 1979[11]
    SL-1 Experimental Power Station (United States) – 1961, reactor reached prompt criticality, killing three operators.
    Saint-Laurent Nuclear Power Plant (France) – 1969, partial core meltdown; 1980, graphite overheating.
    Buenos Aires (Argentina) – 1983, criticality accident during fuel rod rearrangement killed one operator and injured 2 others.
    Jaslovské Bohunice (Czechoslovakia) – 1977, contamination of reactor building.
    Tokaimura nuclear accident (Japan) – 1999, three inexperienced operators at a reprocessing facility caused a criticality accident; two of them died.

  • Nigwil

    Arnie points out that while last week they lost the spent fuel cooling pumps for a while, they did not loose cooling to the reactor which still (I’m sure he said) has a 75% fuel load in it.

    If they loose off-site power or (as is most likely) all switchboards are inundated then both the spent fuel ponds and the reactors will loose cooling forthwith. Standbys wont help as the electrical circuits will be shorted out regardless of the power source.

    Fuk 5 and 6 were in cold shutdown too, and if you look at the temperature charts for those reactors it would not take long for them to boil out. Extrapolate the heat-rise curves for the two reactors and you get to boiling in 24 to 48 hours, superheated fuel rods and hydrogen explosions etc will follow in due course.

    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/11061506_temp_data_56u-e.pdf

    If they loose their switchboards or power to the pumps or the control systems that turn the pumps on and off then the same must happen at Omaha, by the laws of physics.

    Due to the flooding they cannot easily reach the Omaha site with gas tankers to pre-load the reactor with inert gas to suppress hydrogen production; and this tsunami will not recede in a few hours to leave access to the site for repair efforts.

    Nice one team!

  • In case you missed it:

    MSMBC Nightly News of the
    Flooding Missouri River

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/ns/nightly_news#43402288

  • Mark

    Unbelievable nuclear site designed by all those “experts” to rely on sand-bags for continued operation

  • Mark

    Oh learned xdrfox please may I ask your opinion on if river completely overflows and plant is inundated? How would tragedy play out?

  • Mark

    The pumps would stop working but the river would cool plant in some way and totally poison down river. Eventually the river goes down then what? still heat from spent fuel pools and ruined plant?

    • Spent fuel pools without water have a tendency to over react re-critical causing part of what we have in Japan now !
      Now we would have to consider that the mud in the river will settle in these pools causing more problems with cooling once they could somehow get water to them, (also a ploblem in Japan) it would really turn into very hardened clay due to the heat !

  • jump-ball jump-ball

    South Sioux City, NE – (AP) – “The Nebraska State Patrol’s SWAT team is now patrolling the Missouri River levees protecting South Sioux City.”

    Illicit breaking of a levee resulting in the evacuation of nearby homes would enable the vandalizing of an entire community.

    I didn’t see the panned movie ‘Water World’, but it’s very startling to think of it as taking place on flooded Nebraska, Iowa and south-central states land.

    http://www.kmtv.com/story/14904561/state-patrol-swat-team-patrols-levees

  • Rica E

    I feel like something has prepared me for these things all my life. Like the plots of every gripping eighties movie all in one amalgam!

  • Noah

    Advice from Gerald Celente
    Prepare getaway

    “…it has to be treated as if you are preparing for battle; expect the unexpected and prepare for the worst…

    which in these perilous times could be a declaration of economic martial law. Banks may close, currencies may be devalued and deposit withdrawals may be imposed. Remember Gerald Celente’s basic survival strategy, “GC’s Three G’s: Guns, Gold and a Getaway plan.”

  • GOOD CHARTS SHOWING LEVELS FALLING WORLDWIDE

    http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=480200&page=615

    They appear to be from CTBTO.

    Let’s hope they’re real.

    • BetaFlare

      Oh sure they are real and data is authentic.

      However, kids bare feet got blisters on a trampoline in may 2011, Finland (opposite fucuside of the globe).

      Authentic Original Safetyradblisters?

  • Nigwil

    Some reassuring words re the Ft Calhoon site:

    http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Ft_Calhoun_Flood_Defenses_123878599.html

    The Ft. Calhoun Nuclear Facility is an island right now but it is one that authorities say is going to stay dry. They say they have a number of redundant features to protect the facility from flood waters that include the aqua dam, earthen berms and sandbags.
    Posted: 9:21 PM Jun 14, 2011

    • milk and cheese milk and cheese

      Sandbags won’t prevent groundwater seeping up from below.

    • jump-ball jump-ball

      They neglected to mention the need to maintain the FORT CALHOUN sandbag and other defenses for four more months before the flood level starts to fall, and that is anything but reassuring.

  • Godzilla

    “Rest of interview:
    http://www.radio4all.net/files/theknightreport@gmail.com/3862-1-Fort_Calhoun_-_Arnie_Gunderson_with_Robert_Knight_-_WBAI_Five_OClock_Shadow.mp3

    Thanks Anne! Very good interview, and as Arnie said the interviewer was very intelligent too.

  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    One of the few bright notes in this entire mess is that Arnold Gundersen is still telling the truth. Thank you, Sir. I’d rather know the truth.

    • jump-ball jump-ball

      And in these circumstances the truth shall set you free – to pack up and move to a safer, cleaner location, which many won’t do (hello Japan!) because they’ve either been denied the truth, or haven’t sought out and listened to the truthsayers.

  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    and WBAI (Pacifica Radio) has been a reliable source for news for many decades, frequently contradicting ‘official’ reports.

  • radegan

    The spent fuel pool won’t be polluting the atmosphere. If it boils off the water and your pumps are gone, you can always let the river in.

  • Nebraska nuclear plant crisis worsens with midwest flooding- video
    Posted on June 15, 2011 by The Extinction Protocol
    As the pace of earthchanges intensifies, nuclear plants will pose greater and greater environmental risks as the planet’s ecology is overturned by natural disasters. About 15 plants operate in the high-risk New Madrid fault zone. Time and time again, as with Japan and now with the unprecedented flooding along the Missouri River, in the event of a crisis, we…
    http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/nebraska-nuclear-plant-crisis1-worsens-with-midwest-flooding-video/

  • jump-ball jump-ball

    This Omaha KETV 7 aerial video today? of sandbagged FORT CALHOUN NE nuclear reactor at 0:57 shows one access road remaining, if the video is recent and Missouri flood levels haven’t risen significantly:

    http://www.ketv.com/missouri-river-flooding-extended-coverage/28181060/video.html

    But these flood levels will persist through September or October, making sandbag/levee and other maintenance operations an ongoing 3 month job: this is not a tsunami tidal flood and ebb that is over in a day, and the prolongued pressure on the 2 large upstream dams, and others, is unprecendented.

  • jump-ball jump-ball

    Sandbagging and flood conditions around the 2nd Nebraska reactor, the COOPER nuclear plant south of Omaha in Brownville, are shown and discussed in this new Omaha KETV 7 video, which discusses possible access road closure as occurred during the 1993 flood, plans to bring in workers ‘long-term’ or by boat, and the necessity of shutting down the plant if flood levels rise 6 more feet, as occurred in 1993:

    http://www.ketv.com/missouri-river-flooding-extended-coverage/28247953/video.html

    Didn’t say if ‘long-term’ worker stay-ins meant 4 months on site through high flood levels expected into September.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Plant Flooded in Nebraska …why isn’t this news & why did FAA declare no fly zone around plant??
    Good picture:
    http://conservativenc.com/index.php/national/4067