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Title: 4:10 p.m. Flyover Videos Posted
Source: Assumption Parish Police Jury
Date: March 1, 2013
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Black hole? The Large Hadron Collider
http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/1612lr/the_large_hadron_collider_will_operate_for_two/
Zero? Is Google broken for you or something? There's two in Louisiana alone, and we aren't exactly known for science.
1/4 way down page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=649iUqrOKuE
Just a thought from CB.
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Say goodbye to that piece of bayou forever. Sad.
Looks to me like the West perimeter levee road is already starting to creep to it's ultimate demise in the sinkhole. Maybe the picture just distorts it. I see they have already started on a backup closer to the subdivision. The gators can't be happy about all the commotion.
Rainbeau – the Parish Jury pictures show a field north of 70 smoking away. Do they burn the cane fields all winter, or do they burn twice a year for two crops? I just figured it was a fall thing.
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As far as I know it's only once a year, at harvest before christmas. I see no smoke north of 70, but there are no cane fields there. That is swampland as far as you can see, for miles and miles.
That isn't a backup road right behind the subdivision. That is where there will be 3 more vent wells.
And I hear that they have been seeing a lot of gators back there. They didn't hibernate this year. It never got cold enough.
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Went back and looked again, and still don't see anything like smoke Paveway? Can you tell me which pic?
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/assumptionoep/8492510779/in/photostream/
Just above center left
http://www.flickr.com/photos/assumptionoep/8493611292/in/photostream/
Upper left corner
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Thanks Max1, I see it now, and was literally looking north of 70 across from the sinkhole. That's way east and yes, cane fields. Sure looks like they're burning. Those 2 pics were from the 20th, btw.
Here's a cool one. First time they've ever panned enough to get Lake Verrett in the pic.
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Yes, the link would help….
Lake Verrett in the top of the pic. Bayou Corne runs in to Grand Bayou. Grand Bayou runs in to Lake Verrett.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/assumptionoep/8519524642/in/photostream/
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rainbeaudais
Do they burn marsh grass off pasture over your way– they have started doing it south of here- Cameron Meadows- Johnson Bayou/Gum Cove pasture—
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Heya Thad….no, we don't have the marsh grass in this area here like y'all do. I drove through the burning of marsh grass going to the Sabine Refuge a few times when I was down that way. Not fun.
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ENEnews….in answer to your question in the headline, phase one is complete. Phase 2 is to build all the berms to 5 feet high.
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Yeah, move dirt around and make some quick bucks before that all sinks too. What a bunch of nonsense.
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Lion76, who do you reckon is making the quick bucks moving that dirt around?
It may be nonsense to you, but I went back out to the sinkhole by boat yesterday and there's a whole lot of trees turning green that would disagree that it's nonsense.
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Loin 76
what do you suggest doing—?
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Good question Thad. I really don't get all the scorn and ridicule over this berm. Late is better than never. Anything is better than nothing. Partial protection is better than no protection. Slowing the toxic release is better than leaving allowing it flow freely.
I was told it is too late, and I honestly do not understand how any one could think that, or could think that doing whatever we can to save the trees and wildlife is a useless gesture. If the berm fails, then we try something else. Period.
Should we also say since a little bit of NORM was dumped, then why bother preventing any more from being dumped?
I say THANK YOU TEXAS BRINE!
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Rainbeaudais
As usual quick with the cute remarks, can't think past that though. Probably lead a shelter life, biggest acne and getting a hang nail—
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There is no way a ring of dirt is going to contain the ongoing geological disturbance..nor contain the materials.
It does not even do that NOW..considering the presense of gas bubbles in the adjacent swamps and bayous, neighborhoods, etc.
Lake Verret is one of the homes of the Bald Eagle.
http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/category/parish/assumption
As much as I want to save..the people, the fauna and flora of this area…I have no prblem saying this is not going to work.
Taller = heavier…na.
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HOR….y'all can keep calling it a "ring of dirt" and all of your other belitteling names all you want. Fact is, that ring of dirt is exactly what Texas Brine, Crosstex, Dow, and every other industry here has been using, and has been holding up for years and years through every single flood and hurricane that has come.
If it's subsidence, then they will need to reinforce it beyond the 5 feet height, yes. If there is a complete collapse and drop and loss of everything, then yes, it will have been a waste of time, but our problems will be much much bigger than any of us realize.
But, what if it doesn't ever collapse? Is the posiibility of total collapse a reason to just not do anything?
We are at a high level of water now, and that level rarely gets much higher than it is right now, and even at the height all the old roads, as well as new ones are, they ARE doing the job of preventing the contents of the sinkhole from going in to the bayous and swamps any more.
The gas bubbles in the swamps and neighborhoods are NOT the damage causing salt and oil that is in the sinkhole.
I repeat Thads question. What do YOU suggest?
And please. Not another "they need to buy us all out" answer. Even if the answer IS eventually buying us all out, we still do not want to see this area become a toxic wasteland. And even if weall do have to leave,as many have pointed out, these bayous flow past and through many other communities.
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Oh, and trust me.I KNOW what is at stake here. Not sure why you would think you need to post a link to me about bald eagles, all the while laughing at any attempt to keep them safe.
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Dirt is dirt is dirt..
Gas presenting outside the dirt ring implies 'infiltration' of other areas.
Hell..the ring doesn't even encompass the salt dome itself.
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HOR
And now you are being argumentative and acting obtuse just for the heck of it. Have at it….
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I'm done.
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HotR
The purpose of the berm is to encircle the sinkhole and prevent the salt and oil contaninated water from entering the marsh area outside the sinkhole–
The gas is migrating into and venting from the the aquifer. The source formations leaking the gas and oil are several thousand ft underground.
The berm is doing the job it was designed for–trapping the contaminated water—it was not expected to block the gas. A system of vents have been installed, more being installed to release the gas fron the aquifer…
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It isn't going to work..my opinion as you have yours.
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PS..Thad..there are hundreds of posts a day here to pick at.
Please keep in mind..I try to post with the reader in mind (somewhat)…and not interested in the argumentative approach.
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Thad sees my frustration at your pretending to lack understanding of what I am saying.
The berm IS working, for what it was INTENDED for, like it or not!
If you are attempting to post with the reader in mind, then I won't be the only one to see the game you play.
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The berm is catching the stuff on the top..
That would make it cosmetic..
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"The berm is catching the stuff on the top.."
And that is what was floating in to the swamps and bayou! Now, it is NOT.
NOT cosmetic at all.
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Then what are they going to do with it?
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It will fill up..burp..
How much oil..is the estimate?..
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Levels will be controlled with a pumping system. Missed that in the meeting, did ya?
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And pump it to where?
Estimate of material to be removed?
Estimated time this job will take?
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Has the oil coming up been 'fingerprinted" yet?
It's a gas/ oil mix…why would oil not eventually present where the gas is presenting?
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PS..Frustrated ..how so?…lol
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Laughing at the "and not interested in the argumentative approach." That's all you are about, and it especially showed in this thread.
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LOLOL.
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Let's move on ..shall we?
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yes, please do….
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HotR
I do try to post with "the readers in mind" especially those who, like you do not know or understand what is going on.
And we thank yiu for bring it up- now others will know and understand– even if you refuse to.
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Amen Thad! Next step….send in the loup garou!
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Rainbeaudais
Whoa — where did this crap come from. Have not spoke about the berm except critising Tx Brn/ DNR for not getting it done sooner. May have ask would it be wide enough. BUT THAT IS ALL!
And you damn well know what I have suggested and pushed for as much as possible. For horizontal wells to plug the leaking formations thenanother below to relieve pressure by producing the formations
Bald eagles? Need to go back and check your archives it was not me– the only thing I may have sent you would be a pic of a bald eagle in my back yard- "laugh at keeping them safe'?? What I do is not tell other where I see nest and nesting pairs because there are idiots that would kill for bragging rights.
BUY OUT– if they don't stop the oil/ gas leaks, if they don't relieve the formation pressure, if the dome continues to collapse which it will, if the location of the void is found under your feet or endanger housing areas you will pray for a buy out– it called reality. The vent and flares–are no more than a sugar teat to keep the baby from crying. In what year did TxBrn/DNR/CGI promise that the gas and oil would stop – yeah right!
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Rainbeaudais
Pls disregard last–brain fade – screen view change while getting coffee — probably bumped mouse — read last to HoR mistook for it for me.
The format does not always put the "to who" at top so I always copy and paste the name —
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LOL Thad…..well if my post HAD been to you, your response would have been spot on….
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I knew right off you mistook who it was in response to. No worries.
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Just curious, are there any communicating areas outside of the sink hole that can allow oil as well as other contaminating sinkhole/TEXAS Brine junk outside the dirt berms? If gas gets around and out, aren't they just capturing the top of the water wastes? Not a scientist or such, and the berms are doing a good job of containment as long as the under surface sustains the structure or the sinkhole doesnt grow further. Guess the studies will show the under ground situation? This 'fracturing' of the side of the saltdome is a totally new situation that Texas Brine, with help from the DNR, made happen. Hitting in or outside of saltdomes seems to be a "habit" for the drilling industry–if one looks at both Napoleonville and the other terrible example, Lake Peigneur(sucking sounds).
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Jec
So far it seems that the oil is only coming out in the sinkhole and Tx Brn cavern– that is a concern — why not at the bubble sites? What is being trapped in the aquifer?
The main contaminate in the sinkholes is salt- brine from the TxBrn cavern, second is the oil– the gas being lighter than air once out disapates and is gone.
Don't know how much you've read about Lake Peigneur you may have missed it was not a drlg mistake per se. A surveyor using map and plats furnished by Diamond Crystal Salt marked location to safely drl missing all salt mine tunnels and the surveyors made a gross error. The rig drld into tunnel and the lake drained into the salt mine.
The failed cavern at Napoleanville is not oil field related instead was drld for solution mining for salt brine. Failure was not due to any drilling operatiom but due to over mining the salt on the outward side where failure occured.
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Excellent, informative post Thad!
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Scientists: cavern too close to edge of salt dome
March 2 2013
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130302/APN/1303020539
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That link was to a very interesting article about the collapsed salt cavern. No written is stone specs for clearances between salt dome sidewalls to surrounding earth, at least for caverns created for brine containment. A State's wink and a nod promised 200 foot thickness. Hydrocarbon storage caverns required 300 foot think outside salt walls.
Salt wall thickness at the top of the sinkhole cavern was 100 feet thick out from the casing penetration.
Texas Brine, State Louisianan, everyone knew what was going on and got caught red-faced with the cavern failure. Soundings from decades earlier caused them to shut in the cavern (2011?) but to late, it collapsed anyway.
They allowed a paper thin salt wall to exist and when it caved in, it's a complete surprise to them.
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Ya..this statement is something else..
"And conventional wisdom held that at those depths, about 5,000 feet, any rupture would be contained by the surrounding rock, he said."
This from trained experts…cripe.
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PS."Courreges said the kind of failure suspected of happening at Bayou Corne is "unprecedented."
Courreges said that in the past, there have been instances where a cavern's side got close to the salt dome edge and resulted in a leak but not the kind of side wall collapse suspected at Bayou Corne. He said the wealth of research worldwide focuses on the failure of cavern roofs, not walls."
From the link above..
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Offtopic…please forgive…
Scattershooting on Saturday….and the world wonders…Thad….did Bob Denver leave you his Gilligan's sailor cap?
http://www.facebook.com/thad.daly
Sorry…couldn't resist…I had one just like it when I played tennis in high school. And the world was a better place with Gilligan and the Skipper. Take care, SP
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Those were the days…..
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SP
wish — then I could put it on e-Bay LOL
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you need to understand the reasons for the berm… if any of that stuff exiting the hole.. gets to main waterway.. and sucked up as a coolant in a reactor…? BOOM! The heat exchanger tubes would be history, and you would have a meltdown.
One reactor @ just under 20 miles away, and a second one at 40-or-so miles from the center hole… think about it.
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PattieB
Upstream and/or in a different drainage system–
The only way to the nukes would be by tanker truck–
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do you forget… the last fracture of water into lake… drained into a salt dome… has the river reverse direction..?
It's happened before…
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"last fracture of water into lake"
What the heck does that mean?
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Bayou Corne #7
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/massive-sinkholes-wreak-destruction-slideshow/people-stand-next-24-9-metre-diametre-pit-photo-063349834.html#crsl=%252Fphotos%252Fmassive-sinkholes-wreak-destruction-slideshow%252Fsinkhole-photo-1344952884.html
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**They say the North American continent is under such great tension that the Salt Dome caverns along the Gulf of Mexico are fracturing. Earth changes have not yet truly begun.**
https://www.examiner.com/article/earth-stressed-earth-wobble-violent-planet-x-nibiru-visible
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**Almost continuous and intensifying shaking shown on USGS LISS heliplots
Large earthquakes rock the planet, one after another
Earthquake swarms shake and rattle the planet
Loud booms heard and shaking felt in stretch zones
Fireballs blaze across the sky, some strike the earth
Long dormant and other volcanoes rumble to life
Huge cracks open in the earth, accompanied by landslides and sinkholes
Underground fires burn and manhole covers explode
Buildings and refineries explode regularly
Buildings and bridges collapse almost daily
Massive and often unexplained power outages occur
Trains derail
Sometimes all of these things happen on the same day. Coincidence?**
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Anthony
What color is the sky in your world? Because in ours with the blue sky all those disaster are not happening.
Planet Nirubu is a fantasy and the sing of the universe is not a paranoid's dirge.
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Are you attempting to separate me from my friends? I find your comment a questionable one. You would enjoy seeing the world as I do most likely. I have had and continue to live a beautiful life.
People who feel connected to Earth are those who understand not to destroy it. It is nearly impossible to convey some things we sense and know to those who don't appear to have that connection.
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**When told that man lives in delusion everyone thinks of himself as the exception, hence his
delusion. (Ibid)**
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Honestly- it is not personal. But just because it is a sensational article does not make it real
To accept anything from the "exaniner" is buying into a delusion.
Look closely at their writers– doom and gloom and great disaster -predicted, suggested, their documentation is out of context- mis-applied. Quote experts of unrelated fields –even invent experts that when searched for can not be found- the planet Nirubu, the earthquakes and tsunamis and nuke reactors disaster are manmade intentional.
One had methane migrate some 240 niles up un-connected aquifers, Bayou Corne to Minden La, ignited and exploded by a meteorite shower– it actually an explosion of ordance at a private storage facility– Writer missed the real story -it was part of 600 million pounds of illegaly stored ordance–
Yes some parts of the predictions are real and will happen but over a very long period of time 1,000 and 1,000 of years–not tomorrow or even next year–
"To accept the delusion of one selling delusions is to be deluded" (MTD)
Bear in mind you made a 'hit' on the article and posted causing others to make 'hits'– each 'hit' is money into the writer's pocket — so is the aricle, especially the more sensational one to inform JoeP or make money–
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here's the fission products result from corn slurry sample folks… may be the SL-1 melt-down reactor got shoved down in a hole in the area…
http://www.deq.louisiana.gov/portal/Portals/0/BayouCorne/ARS1-12-01669.pdf
It's the closest match for what's in the sample.
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Pattie B
Go back and READ the document you posted-
All tested item result
"U" = Under "MDC"(Minimun Detectable Concentration)
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Pattie B
Pls reseach your subjects before posting– The SL-1 reactor – was in Idaho. And was buried in Idaho. In 1961 pre-dating the mining of caverns in the Napoleanville salt dome.
The entry into the caverns in through a 7.625 inch ID casing some 3,000'long, so how could the wreckage and debris from SL-1 be placed in any cavern. As far as placing in a hole there was NO hole until the sinkhole formed Aug last year– As far as sllt done 'cracked and flow reversing" you are confusing fantasy and reality in the events at Lake Peignuer — see comment to 'JEC" above–
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Hi PattiB. I expected to see the Radium, the Radon and the Uranium in the lab results because that is oil drilling related NORM. What I find most peculiar is the presence of Cobalt 60, Cesium 137 and Americium 241. If I'm not mistaken, these are waste byproducts of nuclear reactors right? Then if that is correct, there must be nuclear radioactive waste in the sinkhole that came from the failed brine, NORM and whatever storage cavern Oxy3 Right?
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yeppers !!
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TM 2020
You can document this pls — the people of Bayou Corne need it for their lawsuit(S)
FYI- Oxy #3 was never a storage cavern only used for solution mining for brine– mining and storage operations are mutually exclusive — can't be both— Only the one unit of NORM- that was produced by TxBrn ops.
20 cu ft of NORM CONTAMINATED pipescale–NOT "pure" NORM (no such thing)– 20 cu ft 2' x 2' x 5'that a large wheel barrow -less than 1 cu yd – dropped in a cavern with a volume of over 5 nillion cu yd.Heavier than brine sinks to bottom AND now buried under 3 Million cu yds of sediment.
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If you only knew Thad, if you only knew. There is a reason no info is coming out. It will though, just before the next meeting. I promise. Sorry I can't say more… isn't because I don't want to, just protection for others you know.
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Lengthy trial could prove damaging to BP, observers say
NEW ORLEANS — Testimony from current and former executives. Gulf Coast residents and the U.S. government pitted against some of the biggest companies in the world. Tens of billions of dollars at stake.
The first week of one of the larges…
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/02/bp-civil-trial/1954691/
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markww
We hoping, even praying that the trial goes the full distance with no plea settlement. Negligence prove fine quadriuple– 76 billion dollars instead the 19–
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Hey Bo
Top pic- upper L/H corner — that looks like a drlg rig location pad ???
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Jindal sidesteps questions about sinkhole visit
March 6 2013
http://www.kplctv.com/story/21536478/jindal-sidesteps-questions-about-sinkhole-visit
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Just my thoughts. Wonder why Gov. Bobby Jindal has not checked out continually the sinkhole in person?
Is it because, the air is too thick for him, or he follows orders not to pressure anyone? What is the reason?
I am sure he gets updates, but really is that enough?
Seeing first hand for yourself, talking to the people seeing what their needs are, asking the tough questions in person, is a lot different than just getting updates.
When will these people get compensated for their losses? These people deserve so much more. Where is the hands on Gov and officials that should fight for the people and their State?
Surrounding States should also have a watchful eye on this.
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Makes no sense to me. I keep saying it's like playing hot potato, no one wants to be holding it when the music stops, seems to be more than a single entity at fault.
Anyway, there must be someone putting pressure on these people to keep the situation this quiet.
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Sounds that way to me also Ibuiltthis.
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What have they all done to our environment, all for greed, ego, and power.
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"The question was posed a second and third time about when residents can expect to see him. The governor repeated the same response without addressing when or if he might visit the sinkhole evacuees.
“Again, we’ll continue to work with those agencies to make sure we hold the company accountable,” Jindal said.
The governor’s press secretary, Sean Lansing, then changed the topic of the questioning by calling on a reporter who had not raised his hand. When the reporter expressed puzzlement at his name being called, Lansing called on a different reporter."
Talk about trouble in Louisiana..Louisiana needs to remove Governor Jindal.
Lawmakers seek to limit Gov. Bobby Jindal's records exemption
Feb 6 2013
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/viewart/20130206/NEWS01/130206005/Lawmakers-seek-limit-Gov-Bobby-Jindal-s-records-exemption-
Get the records from the governor's office…find out what kind of real trouble Louisiana is in..
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Link to above quote..
March 7 2013
Jindal sidesteps questions about sinkhole visit
http://theadvocate.com/home/5366195-125/jindal-sidesteps-questions-about-sinkhole
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These haven't been posted in a while..
Salt and fault maps..Southern Louisiana…etc.
http://www.cic.lsu.edu/Sinkhole/index.html
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