Published: September 13th, 2012 at 9:32 am ET
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Investigation of the Inside of the Spent Fuel Pool for Fuel Removal from the Upper Part of Unit 3 Reactor Building at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station
Tokyo Electric Power Company
- Date of investigation: September 13, 2012
- Number of workers involved: 19
An underwater camera was hung from the crawler crane down into the spent fuel pool to investigate the condition of the tip of steel members partially immersed in the pool water.
It appears more debris will soon be corroding away and falling into the fuel pool.
Published: September 13th, 2012 at 9:32 am ET
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I would say this information 'trumps' an earlier headline of….
"Japan: Fukushima Daiichi No Longer Considered Emergency Work"
– September 12th, 2012 at 11:37 pm ET
What kind of WORK is this considered?
Devastating, Catastrophic, Not so good?
How many lives will it take to TRY and stop this?
How many will die if we don't?
How long is it going to take?
What will the repercussions be during that period and beyond?
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Well I think what TEPFük was really trying to get at is its no longer "Emergency" Work.
It's a "dead-mans" work.
If you work their expect to:
1.) Be over exposed to radiation on first day of assignment
2.) Develop any type of cancer/illness rougly 3-5 years post assignment
3.) Never be allowed to leave Japan
4.) Never to receive health reimbursement for illness contracted from over-exposure
5.) A family (if not previously married with children) free of deformities or illness
6)….. list could go on and on…..
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I expected this from the beginning of the crane activity…the pickup stix activities finally got them down to a point where they see the precarious state of the wreckage. It will be slow going now.
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There is always the risk the cleanup activities will rupture the spent fuel pond liner. I was expecting that to happen at Unit 4 quite frankly. But with Unit 3 it's a whole different animal.
Because of the fissile fuel meltdowns the out of control radiation emanating from this "non-emergency" reactor building (like Units 1 and 2) is too deadly for humans to enter. It kills hardened robots.
Unlike Unit 4, they haven't been able to shore up any ruptured floors or walls on the lower levels at Units 1-3 and have only scope information to assess the condition of the containment building. There have been a few kamikaze human forays into the least deadly areas, but work time is measured in a couple of minutes.
We worried about Unit 4…now Unit 3 jumps to the top of the list. And next week…Unit 2…following week Unit 1…
Wasn't it a asinine idea to build 6 nuclear reactor buildings on the same little plot of land? And put them by the ocean for good measure so everybody gets a taste of death.
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@SP; "kills hardened robots"??-does that include the ones in high-end suits calling the shots?!!-"BIG NUKE"-YOU SUCK!!!,(& U don't scare me either,I'd whip all ur pro-nuke puke monkey asses!!!
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"We worried about Unit 4…now Unit 3 jumps to the top of the list. And next week…Unit 2…following week Unit 1…"
it's like the shell game, but with a pea under all the shells.
your guess is as good as mine, everyone's a winner.
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"TEPCO claimed that there was a small but non-zero probability that the exposed fuel assemblies could reach criticality.[266][267] The BBC commented that criticality would never mean a nuclear explosion, but could cause a sustained release of radioactive materials.[266]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_I_nuclear_accidents#Hydrogen_explosion
"Tokyo Electric Power Company examined a water sample from the pool on Sunday. The sample contained 140,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium-134 per cubic centimeter, 150,000 becquerels of cesium-137, and 11,000 becquerels of iodine-131".
http://enenews.com/iodine-131-3-spent-fuel-pool-1000000-times-normal-suggests-nuclear-chain-reaction-nuclear-expert-video
Lost in the aftermath of the nuclear explosion that destroyed Reactor3, was the condition of SFP3. Water in SFP3 boiled off after 311, and was eventually replaced with seawater. But the damage had already been done. Some of the spent fuel in SFP3 had melted into a puddle at the bottom of the pool. Fuel assemblies broke and spilled their contents. Storage racks no longer kept spent fuel separated. Once water was added, neutrons emitted by the spent fuel slowed, and criticalities commenced, as evidenced by the presence of short-lifed cesium and iodine isotopes in the SFP3.
What we now have is a rogue nuclear reactor operating in the open air without containment of any kind inside the former SFP3. Metal roofing corroding and falling into SFP3 is the least of…
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…What we now have is a rogue nuclear reactor operating in the open air without containment of any kind inside the former SFP3. Metal roofing corroding and falling into SFP3 is the least of our worries.
Sickputer: Nuclear reservations like the Fuku Diiachi complex were built for the convenience of the utility. As it turns out, a problem at one unit may cause skyshine that would kill any remaining workers at the site. A problem at one reactor can bring down all the reactors at the site. Every such nuke complex must be shuttered.
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PuN writes: "As it turns out, a problem at one unit may cause skyshine that would kill any remaining workers at the site. A problem at one reactor can bring down all the reactors at the site"
SP: good posts… Yes, the new Domino Theory applies to megaplexes.
Haven't seen much NRC strategizing to prevent similar issues at the American megaplexes.
There are things they can do at American megaplexes to help prevent cascading disaster scenarios. Unfortunately, those measures cost money and the private owners are too busy hiring special interest lobbyists to influence politicians. Influence them to stop safety features we now know are essential to prevent an American Fukushima.
They should be required to dry cask as much spent fuel assemblies as possible. Immediately. They stall because casks cost millions. Nuclear power plant companies don't care if you live or die…just keep their paychecks rolling.
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I doubt very much that is a sfp from Fuk3. We saw that reactor building blown to smithereens. Wait a minute, maybe, just maybe, that was an illusion and all the spent fuel is still pristine with the manufacturers label still intact. Though, if I were a betting man I would say the sfp is now the basement. Tepco needs to hire an emergency interpretation disorder assessment contractor to research into current developments regarding managements emergency fatigue.
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I think it (SFP 3) is still intact, just barely.
I think the explosion was similar to the propulsion of a missile from a silo.
The quick explosion at Unit 3 had most of the energy propelled out from the pool. But some of the racks remained. The liner of the pools are stout. We will see if it can remain intact for another 50 years.
It will have to, because I don't think their fuel assembly removal methods are going to work at Units 3 or 4 even if they wait until December 2013. Broken and fused assemblies are impossible to remove with the current extraction suggestions. It's time to consider other options, and none look promising.
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"Broken and fused assemblies are impossible to remove with the current extraction suggestions." Sickputer
Call Dyson. Cyclone technology is needed. Very Large Vacuum.
Seriously, it is by now clear to anyone watching the "cleanup" operation that if the current pace of the TEP.gov effort at Fuku is maintained, even the chewing gum and bailing wire efforts to keep pipes clear and pumps running will grind to a halt after a time. TEP.gov will someday give up, fill what remains of Buildings1,2,3,&4 with concrete, declare the cleanup completed, and simply walk away.
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hbjon,
I believe that there is a tooth fairy more than those photos are of sfp 3. Tepco lies and fabricates data and photos, and has for generations.
http://archive.greenpeace.org/nuclear/bnfl/japan_nuke_excerpts.html
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How Dangerous Is 400-600 Pounds Of Plutonium Nano Particle Dust Liberated By Fukushima? Via A Green Road http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/how-dangerous-is-400-600-pounds-of.html
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On 3/11; 15-28 Nuclear Reactors/SFP’s In Japan Were Damaged, Not 3 or 4; via A Green Road http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/14-nuclear-reactors-at-4-japan-sites.html
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I'm with you NoNukes. No matter how hard Tepco tries to convince us, we refuse to believe in reactor reincarnation.
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Can they use a giant magnet to remove debris, are the fuel bundles magnetic, would a magnet disturb fuel, could you move or lift fuel bundles with magnet and place in containers, are radioactive isotopes attracted to magnets? Small steps is all we can do, any other ideas welcome.
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you can remove debris with 10,000+ people putting their lives on the line. not sure about the magnets though.
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but if I were to use magnets, I would use Thunderbird #2. and have Thunderbird #4 handy just in case it all slipped conveniently into the Deep Blue Sea. of course TEPCO execs might like to be on standby in #3 to escape to #5 if it all goes pear shaped. sorry, more pear shaped, even a 4D Klein bottle.
TEPCO: pls add to your "thisisdefinatelynotanemergency" contact list.
http://www.contactmusic.com/pages/thunderbirds2x12x07x04
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thanks to you two for the regular posting … keeping it real …
the silence from the nuclear promoters (GE) remains deafening …
"We're just gonna push this nuclear thing through!!!" (GE CEO 1961)
Now Japan/World held hostage by Japanese nuclear Yakuza …
You can't be anti-nuclear … we're all made up of atoms …
But you can be dead against the corruption of science for money …
Spent on a "Titanic-like" hubris to build an "unbreachable containment" which they knew to be just as flimsy as the
"unsinkable" boat we all remember so well …
Same money guys behind both failed ventures: United-States-of-Cancer-folk-hero John Pierpont Morgan and his capitalistic heirs … (Owners of International Mercantile Marine and General Electric Company) …
Oh the irony … the utter irony …
'Cept the flimsy boat only drowned two thousand …
But the flimsy containments have doomed the once proud 'Empire of Japan' … and equally tragically, many parts of our lovely 'Lost' Coast … and
while newbie, Alex McFarlane's, wimpy "Dry Cask waste storage (may be) just fine …
they ain't worth a preppy's ass when they aren't on order for expedited campaign to use them and fill them at our nation's over one hundred vulnerable (idiotic and scientifically indefensible) spent fool pools!!!!!
Can you say Fort Calhoun?
Can you say Turkey Point??
Can you say Vermont Yankee???
Can you say "Toothless Toadies from the…
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… "Toothless Toadies from the NRC"
/peace …
class dismissed …
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I love it: "Toothless Toadies from the NRC", but it is too nice of a nickname.
I would call them the NRW… The Nuclear Regulatory Whores. Sorry if I offend hard-working women in their honorable profession.
Mainly because the nucleocrats jump back and forth from working for the energy business and their cushy government jobs. Builds up a tidy pension or three. Hope it's worth killing their own progeny.
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SP, it occurs they like their new lineup better than the old..
Quote of the Day: “It feels like a friendlier, happier group than I recall gathered before us in the past.” – Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) at a Senate hearing with the five members of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission
Members of the commission said tensions have eased with the departure of former NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko.
http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/249123-overnight-energy-starring-romneys-energy-adviser-as-himself
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Of course they're happier. Jaczko was starting to develop a conscience. He declared the 50 mile evacuation zone for Americans in part because of concern that SPF4 was so dangerous.
This absolutely infuriated the industry and the other commissioners because the equally arbitrary and useless U.S. evacuation zones were being reconsidered. Jaczko went rouge, wasn't following the program and had to be eliminated.
Five psychopaths are always much happier than four and a half. And a happy psychopath is a dangerous one.
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yea, cause the nuclear industry got it's way, 100%.
No more pesky pro the people, for local community stuff going on…
Dam the torpedos, full speed ahead.
But the watch reports say there is an iceberg dead ahead.
They are seeing a mirage, no icebergs here abouts.
Throttle up to 120% of full power, AND throw some MOX fuel in the boilers.
No one can sink the nuclear industry ship,
NO ONE.. NEVER.
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Except another nuclear industry ship, da?
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Conga Line of Suckholes.
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Unit 3's spent fuel pool had part of its green 35 ton refueling crane sticking in it, have they removed it already or are pictures not being shown of it?
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We thinks there is a wee bit of photoshopping going on..
Check out other parts of ENENews.. lots of pictures of FUKU were admitted to be photoshopped, with less at risk than with #3..
#3 is the ONE that they do not want anyone to know what happened… cause it would spell the end of the whole nuclear industry.
Result? Make up some pictures… or photoshop some of other spent fuel pools.
Until we see Greenpeace go in there and say the pool and reactor are still there, #3 reactor contents are GONE, so is most if not all of spent fuel pool.
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Unfortunately, the liner is Stainless Steel. Chlorides attack Stainless with a vengeance. It causes Stainless to crack along the grain. As the SFP sags, twists, and bends, the liner will go along. Stainless is getting more and more brittle because of the chlorides and radiation. YAPCO does not have 50 years before this thing goes. Many of us at Enenews know what is going to happen we just can't put a time on the event.
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loads of pictures here..http://www.flickr.com/photos/simplyinfo/
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To keep the paradigm intact and explain all the anomolies is causing Emergency Fatigue Syndrome EFS. EFS has been determined to cause cancer in laboratory animals.
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It also causes brain and heart seizures among all pro nuke apologists.
They will not admit the FUKU is anything more than around 10% of Chernobyl.
Nothing happened at FUKU according to them.. just a minor hiccup and belch from nuclear baby.
Now it is all back to normal. They are inviting people back into Fukushima province.
Japan is hosting foreigners kids to come and help with 'decontamination' and to talk up the local food, raised in contaminated land, or caught in contaminated ocean..
Yea, this will be another HUGE nuclear tourist resort for the ignorant, just like the nuke test sites, Chernobyl and more.
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