New long-term roadmap says removal of melted nuclear fuel may begin in 10 years… “If technology essential for the work has been developed”

Published: July 9th, 2011 at 2:04 pm ET
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Govt., TEPCO draw roadmap to reactor decommission, NHK, July 09, 2011:

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[...] NHK has obtained the mid- and long-term roadmap which was presented when officials from the operator of the Fukushima plant, government officials in charge of nuclear safety, and manufacturers of nuclear reactors met last week. [...]

The work is considered to be the most important phase in the decommissioning process. The roadmap indicates that removal will start in 2021 if technology essential for the work has been developed before that.

The timeline is believed to have been set based on measures taken following the 1979 Three Mile Island accident in the United States. But unlike the US case, as reactor containment vessels were damaged at the Fukushima complex, they need to be fixed and filled with water.

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49 comments to New long-term roadmap says removal of melted nuclear fuel may begin in 10 years… “If technology essential for the work has been developed”

  • I read this a few days ago ?


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  • Flapdoodle Flapdoodle

    In ten years we could also have faster than light travel, time travel, and teleportation “if the technology is developed”.


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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      agreed.
      made me smile in all this misery.


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    • americancommntr

      It’s said the amount of technical knowledge is doubling every 2 years. This means, if true and if it keeps up, and just stays at that rate, technical knowledge levels will be:
      at 10 years; 32x today’s
      at 20 years; 1,024x today’s
      at 30 years; 32,768x today’s
      at 40 years; 1,048,576x today’s
      It seems in many fields today, the solutions to problems are already known, but the solutions are ignored due to a mixture of academic pride but mainly corporate greed. One example is the use of Brown’s Gas flame, which reportedly can be used to convert a material with high radioactivity, such as Strontium-90, into Strontium with levels of radiation below natural background or very close to it. If true, it shouldn’t take 60 days to implement the use of that technology. Unless there are powerful nuclear industry companies which would rather mess around with radioactive waste forever, making money all the while, than render it safe it terms of radioactivity and then just have to safely store the basic elements away somewhere.


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    • SteveMT

      The keyword is “IF!” If we are already dead from this disaster, then it won’t matter.


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  • Mark Mark

    A soon to be bankrupt company making plans based on technology that hasn’t even been developed, ie robots and electronics that can function in historically super high radio-active environments. They are pissing in the wind if indeed that is their actual plan….Article is merely a feel good PR stunt. Have a great weekend folks, God Bless


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    • Misitu

      You too Mark.

      It’s a bloody laugh is it not. The words cloud cuckoo and land spring to mind. As usual, alter ego throws this out on facebook as deserving a wider audience as if they are interested. Chinese water torture, I am hoping, the steady drip drip drip of ever more tragi-comi-dramatic idiocies from the land of the rising dosimeter might cause someone to scream.


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  • girlygrrll

    How do they expect to “rebuild” reactors around molten nuclear fuel? (Not even going to touc their “removal” process…)


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    • extra knight

      rebuilding anything is out of the question.


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      • Apparently that’s still their game plan. It’s insane, but that’s why they haven’t stopped the constant radiation leaks, because they want to be able to restart the reactors again someday. That’s how it seems to me, anyway.


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    • Seen this “rebuild” in a number of articles/reports … so I have figured they are very old inf. being rehearsed in thought or as news but mostly into give more false hopes to people who have nothing left !
      If you can not dazzle them with brilliance, Baffle them with BullSh*t !


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  • alasanon

    At the rate they’re going, 10 years would be pushing it! They are taking their sweeeet time!!…

    Someone needs to light a radioactive fire under them.


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  • nuclearpowerisdeath

    Amateur Footage with Geiger Counter:

    Radioactive Container Truck Spewing Gamma Rays Into Traffic on I-270 in Saint Louis, Missouri

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm2fV0ag6tY&feature=youtu.be


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  • extra knight

    this is not good news. not good enough it seems. ten years is a long way down the road it seems. and totally irresponsible to depend on technology that hasn’t even been developed yet. they need to find a way to isolate and decontaminate/remove the entire site, even if it means digging a very large trench around the whole complex. yes TEPCO write off your investment already, the radiation releases from fukushima dai-ichi need to be stopped.


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    • StPaulScout StPaulScout

      The entire sight is built on ‘made ground’, clean fill. Start digging big ditches around it and the whole damned thing could slide into the ocean.


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  • nuclearpowerisdeath

    From 2003:

    Plutonium from Sellafield (UK) in all children’s teeth

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/nov/30/greenpolitics.health

    “Government admits plant is the source of contamination but says risk is ‘minute’

    Radioactive pollution from the Sellafield nuclear plant in Cumbria has led to children’s teeth across Britain being contaminated with plutonium.

    The Government has admitted for the first time that Sellafield ‘is a source of plutonium contamination’ across the country. Public Health Minister Melanie Johnson has revealed that a study funded by the Department of Health discovered that the closer a child lived to Sellafield, the higher the levels of plutonium found in their teeth.

    Johnson said: ‘Analysis indicated that concentrations of plutonium… decreased with increasing distance from the west Cumbrian coast and its Sellafield nuclear fuel reprocessing plant – suggesting this plant is a source of plutonium contamination in the wider population.’

    Johnson claimed the levels of plutonium are so minute that there is no health risk to the public. But this is disputed by scientists, MPs and environmental campaigners who have called for an immediate inquiry into how one of the world’s most dangerous materials has been allowed to continue to contaminate children’s teeth. There have long been claims of clusters of childhood leukaemia around Sellafield.

    In the late 1990s researchers collected more than 3,000 molars extracted from young teenagers across the country during dental treatment and analysed them. To their surprise they found traces of plutonium in all the teeth including those from children in Scotland and Northern Ireland. Alarmingly, they discovered that those living closer to Sellafield had more than twice the amount of those living 140 miles away…”

    More at link


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  • larry-andrew-nils

    the promises when they put in a nuke plant are easy to make.

    but when the breakdown comes the promises are broken.

    is there a list of promises available from tepco from before the plant went in?… because they should be reviewed.


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  • larry-andrew-nils

    i give up.

    only god can help me.

    i have no power alone.

    if it could be put into the hearts of the people to behead the evil ones… i would see my prayer answered.


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    • Steven Steven

      larry I feel your pain. TEPCO is just a single drunk driver on the long winding road of human history. Just as stopping one drunk driver doesn’t solve the problem of traffic accidents, so neither will this problem go away even if Fukushima Daiichi is somehow contained.

      Likewise, getting all the drunks off the road still doesn’t fix it. There’s drugged drivers, sleepy drivers, plain old bad drivers…. so even a nuke free world would still be in danger. Biological accidents, genetic manipulation mistakes, oil spills… you name it, if they’re fiddling with it we are the dummies who will end up paying a high price.

      “only god can help me” should be “only God can help us”. Clearly we’re too dumb to help ourselves.


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    I’m sorry but even if they remove the melted nuclear fuel in 10 years, how do they expect to get this under control and decontaminate the whole area?
    Chernobyl isn’t even totally contained. The area is still dangerous.

    Once they start a plant, it’s just there. I have not seen yet, where they know how to totally kill it.
    It’s a gift that keeps giving.


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Quote:
      “If technology essential for the work has been developed”

      That should give you a clue that they do not know how to kill this monster


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    • How deep will they need to dig to find the curium in 10 years ?
      They are really thinking or just faking again with plans that can not be fulfilled to give ( hopes and assurance ) of false progress !


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      • WindorSolarPlease

        Hi xdrfox

        I think they are saying things, just to say something.

        How many years will it take for this earth and people to be totally destroyed from Fukushima, these troubled plants, and from the ones that are to old?

        They should have had the technology first, to kill these monsters and it’s waste before building these dangerous things.


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        • Other then a bit of cleaning of the grounds and knocking down some buildings in the future, there is nothing within our technology that can undue this creation of death ! How much time do we all have is unknown, but the last one here, please turn off the lights !


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      • theypoisonus

        Same ole bull. I read yesterday or day before that the govt. is going to break up tempco. So how does a financially broke and broken up co. do squat?

        This is a ticking time-bomb.

        To Quote The Jester,

        Tickty tock tock


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  • theypoisonus

    Anybody here live around St. Louis, Mo?

    Watch for semi trucks if you are !!
    Radioactive

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm2fV0ag6tY&feature=youtu.be

    wonder where it came from and where it was going, and what was in it??


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  • Thebes

    How exactly do they plan to fix the reactor vessels when the radiation levels in the buildings are several times what would kill a workman working for only an hour?

    The Soviets used “biological robots” ie military conscripts who were given small pieces of work, about 30 seconds at a time. That was unskilled labor throwing roofing material off the top. Welding is skilled and requires set-up and site specific experience.


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  • AustralianCannonball

    This video is from May 21st and was never posted on the forums. It is about the TEPCO executives:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T5nKa64O3c


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  • Fukushima fuel rods removal can begin in 10 years
    An expert on decommissioning nuclear power plants says work to remove fuel rods at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant can begin in 10 years.
    Koji Okamoto made the comments in an interview with NHK on Saturday.,,
    Okamoto said the reactors and the containment vessels at the Fukushima plant were thought to be destroyed in a meltdown.,,,
    He said where only a small portion of the fuel rods melted down, all of which remained inside the reactor.
    He said with experience gained from the Three Mile Island accident, the planned 10-year span is possible.
    ,,, be able to go home if the radioactive contamination is properly controlled as suggested in the plan.
    However, he said even a small amount of radioactive material from the fuel rods.. .
    Sunday, July 10, 2011
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/09_29.html


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  • StPaulScout StPaulScout

    I plan on taking a round trip thoughtout the Milky Way. Stoping at all the scenic spots. The trip leaves in a year provided the technology that will make the trip possible is invented by then…. Fucktards them Japanese government officials.


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