Published: December 20th, 2012 at 3:05 pm ET
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Title: 11:50 a.m. Updated Sinkhole Profile
Source: State of Louisiana
Date: December 20, 2012
Link: http://www.edsuite.com/proposals/proposals_280/sinkhole_profile_12182012_fi_548.pdf
Top Left: “Visible evidence of subsidence further west”
Bottom Left: “Note: Heavy gas bubble activity observed Dec. 10″
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See also: Officials: Worries about more subsidence in area will be revealed at today’s public meeting on giant sinkhole
Published: December 20th, 2012 at 3:05 pm ET
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I don't know how old that photo #3 is, but I think it's at least 10 days old.
It would be a nice, if unexpected change, if they'd stop treating us like idiots for once.
We ALL know that the lake is far bigger now, we've all seen the videos, so why on earth do they persist in using images that are inaccurate.
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They used a photo from Nov. 9 according to the note at the bottom
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Then matched it with the survey data from 12/10 and 12/12.. so the picture is old.. survey data is a month later..
Don't you wish they would do the survey data and then the photo??
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They've just done a flyover, why not use one of them, or are they using satellite imagery, if they are let us have them too.
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Rep. Harrison told the Parish a while back that they have Sat. imaging and infrared but will not release them.
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Although there some Sat. photos in Shaw's presentation.
Actually, they are going to risk putting the residents back in their homes, after the next big event, and say all is clear. That's what I am getting from both presentations. That way they save 75-100 million in buying out folk's houses, avoid costly litigation, and the resident's will all die from smaller amounts of exposure in the long term.
That's my take away from both presentations. Sick!
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VERY IMPORTANT READ! This explains the processes much better, and shows how brine will not always work in tandem with salts and gases. It tells the story of the "Frack Out" at the bottom of Oxy 3, IMHO.
So many other variables are in play afterwards, but I believe that this was an inevitable outcome, hastenend by Texas Brine and LDNR's own incompetence and greed.
http://www.netl.doe.gov/kmd/cds/disk23/G-Soil%20Projects/Salt%20Caverns%5CFEW%208242%5CFEW%208242%20SandiaNL%20Oct2000.pdf
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Resident: "Will you buy my home so I can leave?"
Response (TB): "There is no answer I can give that will satisfy you."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAHj17Vrg0A
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I just watched the video, déjà vu , they have no answers to give. They can not solve the issue because they have no idea how big the problem is, so they should deal with the one thing they can quantify, i.e., compensating the local people and letting them at least move on. Many years ago I went for a job as ground crew on an international airline, the interview spiel was about clothes, hair and makeup, at the end of it I told them I was not interested because when a plane is falling out of the sky and the company would expect me to deal with relatives on the ground, the last thing they would care about was the shade of my lipstick. Nothing has changed over the years, we still live in an age of surfaces and we don't need a crystal ball to know that, whatever happens, the company will either go bankrupt and/or get off as in every industrial disaster throughout the World over and over again ad nauseam. TB should be forced to deal with this housing issue now.
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I'm beginning to feel like we're being kept on a leash, and just fed scraps of information. I hate that!!!
My apologies, I'm in a funny mood today.
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THIS from the laughing wolf?
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Cataclysmic, why do things in logical progression when bass ackwards has always worked for them?
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So we'll have to wait till January to find out what it looked like in December.
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Rainbow brought that new 'bubble site' up a while back. Still this does show the subsidence heading northwest and west. I don't see the staging area lasting much longer, do you?
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I don't see either the staging area, nor the town last much longer. And I'm having doubts about the viability of the entire Gulf coast & the Mississippi valley too.
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I think the sluff will be right in front of the holding tank area sooner rather than later..
..but the experts don't.. so, everything is safe…
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Actually they do in the worst case scenario, include the edge of the tanks. Check the presentation at http://assumptionla.wordpress.com/
under the Shaw link.
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Yep.to the left…the swamp is delicate..a pan to the left would show further changes..in the vegetation..etc.
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I think they need to move their fancy 'read-em sticks' further out.
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They can't show us an up to date image, if they did the sink-hole would take up nearly 2/3 of the image, and if they zoomed out to show it all it would show just how close to Hw70 the sink-hole has got, and just how bad things really are.
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I find it difficult to visualize that there is subsidence at a far space to the West that is cavern related. I wonder if at this point the movement of oil and other materials is opening and widening channels straight and far below the subsidence. If this were cavern related, then we'd see more sinking of trees around the sinkhole first – in my opinion.
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Looking at the SECOND page of the PDF, you see the significant changes..and the subsidence.
http://www.edsuite.com/proposals/proposals_280/sinkhole_profile_12182012_fi_548.pdf
What is seen is a closing in of the deep part of the sink hole..but its still DEEP at -410 ft.Any one know more about what this kind of cross section..one S/N and one W/E?
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Jec, yes, it says the directions on the bottom of each pic.
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Lots of geological modeling experience here.
No it's not necessarily a closing. It is more likely lack of data in the first section.
So what they show is its this wide and this deep-making a wide triangle on the sections, but missed the spot where it dives off. The new mapping using sonar picks that edge up.
It does show that the bottom has come up a bit as previously reported.
You can see just where the deep spot is on the contour map: it's the bright blue spot In the middle-too of the photo/contour overlay
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This was a reply to jec 6:50pm
Admin, I'm still wishing for that edit feature this Xmas too
have a great new year admin!
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One more thing.
This very steep, very deep,, pointy bottom. Indicates a very active, unstable situation.
I'd be very very nervous about being on a boat out there.
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And if you want to know why search for "lake Peigneur".
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDIQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DcNo-gEPWVnM&ei=x-DTUPfwK83oigK6mIGgAw&usg=AFQjCNFRGl3i5_Mrhqj4kGe76TZnMAqc-Q
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No the pointy bottom is more like the one in an hourglass
If a cavern breaches quickly the it's whirlpool time.
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Are you visualizing a whirlpool effect at the 'pointy bottom'?
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The sinkhole, a product of the path of least resistance, sits atop the dome cap. As it grows, it will naturally move toward skirting the edge of the dome cap, where all the sinkage is heading. Everywhere between the sinkhole and the fracked edge of the dome is vulnerable.
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Let's just melt caverns for some of the world's wickedest most vile stuff in salt domes all over the world. Now don't worry at all that salt is one of the most dissolvable solids anywhere. What could possibly happen?! We are in control!
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Louisiana Governor Jindal, Bayou Corne Sinkhole and Santa
http://www.bayoubuzz.com/buzz/item/217102-louisiana-governor-jindal-bayou-corne-sinkhole-and-santa
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Seismically active right now
http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli_temp/LA10_EHE_GS_10.2012122112.gif
http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli_temp/LA10_EHN_GS_10.2012122112.gif
http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli_temp/LA10_EHZ_GS_10.2012122112.gif
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Yup, that's what drilling looks like.
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welcome back, rainbow. Believe it or not Thad and I are both working on this on FB, and I have found some very interesting things.
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Glad to hear that….:-)
Where on FB?
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Private messaging. Not a page. I guess three can do as well.
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Nah…..I'll pass and wait to see what y'all come up with. Have fun….!!
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Yeah…actually very civil, but not my idea of a hot friday night…
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Now I'm smiling…..
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HEY EVERYONE FRACKING STUDY
http://epa.gov/hfstudy/
MARKWW
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@markww – thought you might like this article about new fracking job permit granted for drilling 1 mile from nuclear plant.
http://www.heraldstandard.com/marcellus_shale/permit-given-for-fracking-near-nuclear-plant/article_72daa123-bc18-55b2-923e-2836aef991dd.html
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Hey Time I hear you I downloaded a good seismograph system into my tablet and iPod and been watching the x y z and they sure have been moving like like heart beats on the concrete pad I had made separate from the place and it has a sandy bottom. Its active and shows tiny but constant earthquakes here in Sugarland Texas.
MARKWW
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Found a weird Video New Madrid fault maps and underwater body bags needed by FEMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9l17GLHE6w&feature=youtu.be
MARKWW
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BREAKING NEWS JUDGE APPROVES CLASS ACTION BP
NOT FOR INJURIES OR SICKNESS
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50275838/ns/us_news/
MARKWW
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