Newly released NRC email reveals radioactive technetium was detected outside Fukushima plant — Over 240 km from meltdowns — One of three principle radionuclides identified

Published: December 14th, 2011 at 8:13 am ET
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March 13th, 2011 – 2200 EDT – USNRC Emergency Operations Center Status Update, Enformable, Dec. 12, 2011:

  • Morning of March 13, 2011
  • USS Reagan ~130 miles (240 km) off Japan coast
  • Dose rates from overhead plume were .6 mrem/hour (6 microsieverts/hour)
  • Navy sent samples to base fro isotopic analysis
  • (Italicized by NRC) “Principle radionuclides identified were iodine, cesium, and technetium, consistent with a release from a nuclear reactor.

h/t Anonymous tip

SOURCE: Enformable

One of the only mentions by US media of technetium being found INSIDE the Fukushima plant is Tepco Retracts Chlorine, Arsenic Findings at Fukushima Station, Bloomberg, Apr 20, 2011:

Tokyo Electric also lowered the readings for the density of other radioactive elements, including cesium-137, technetium-99m and lanthanum-140, found in the water that accumulated in the buildings.

Published: December 14th, 2011 at 8:13 am ET
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97 comments to Newly released NRC email reveals radioactive technetium was detected outside Fukushima plant — Over 240 km from meltdowns — One of three principle radionuclides identified

  • jec jec

    USS Ronald Reagan. So how does one decontaminate air craft carriers/steel? Aircraft? And why such a delay in reporting, the date is March 2011!

    • Enenews Admin

      We’d never know at all if Enformable hadn’t taken the time to do FOIA requests, wait for the responses, read through all the documents, then post the relevant ones online… while maintaining a website platform to distribute the information publicly.

    • Baking soda is what the military uses to decontaminate.

        • Mack Mack

          It’s good to watch/listen to this to see who’s protecting the nuclear industry.

          So far, only Kucinch has highlighted concerns about safety and complacency. Issa and Chaffetz are really laying into Jaczko.

          A lot of talk about management style! Who cares about management style! Just keep us all safe!

          • James2

            Congressional hearings are made for TV promotional events. It’s all a dance. All the real conversation happens behind closed doors.

            • Mack Mack

              Of course, but you can find out by the questions they ask and how they’re phrased which of our elected officials are for or against nuclear energy.

              I definitely recommend everyone watch this hearing or listen to it.

              • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

                @Mack

                Yes, you can learn a lot by watching Congressional hearings. I recall having watched one on recalling troops from Iraq when then General Petraeus was in Iraq. He appeared with the then Ambassador to Iraq. When Petraeus spoke, the Ambassador watched all the members of the panel intently to assess what they were thinking. When the Ambassador spoke, Petraeus watched them intently. He actually winked at a couple of them. It was crystal clear who supported these two and who didn’t.

                I would be sorry to see Chairman Jaczko go since he would naturally be replaced with someone who would be even more responsive to the nuclear industry.

          • Whoopie Whoopie

            I’M WORRIED.
            SOUNDS LIKE HE MIGHT BE OUSTED.

            • Whoopie Whoopie

              ASSHOLES! I’M PISSED.

            • James2

              Of course they will oust him – but they’ll have to pay him off royally or he will squawk – I’m thinking he already has a multimillion $ consulting gig already lined up

              Has anyone mentioned the role of the NRC in actual nuclear safety yet?

  • James2

    This isn’t the big news from USS Reagan.

    The timing of this report is interesting. On the dispatch from Reagan it says the plume was observed the morning of March 13th – which is between the time of the #1 explosion and the #3 explosion, and Reagan seems to think it is normal, given the happenings at Fukushima.

    The report is issued at 2200 EDT on March 13th – which is just after the #3 explosion, and just as Reagan was experiencing a new plume which caused it to hightail it out of there.

    So the information contained in this report is interesting, but does not tell the story of what happened in the explosion of #3.

    What it does tell me is that the NRC was actually monitoring things very closely – which is proof positive they have repeatedly broken federal law in upholding their safety pledge – and should all be headed to prison right now.

    • James2

      PS – I was watching the dispatches live as this was happening. Reagan turned and ran almost immediately after the explosion of #3.

      Within about two hours, the Navy had issued a press release saying that they Reagan was being redeployed northward for a humanitarian mission – that they had experienced a small radiation event and they were washing down a helicopter.

      Later accounts from onboard the ship tell a very different story.

      Apparently one of their helicopters came back to the ship and set off all the radiation alarms, causing a radiation emergency onboard ship – which means everyone dons their gas masks and goes into a well-rehearsed emergency mode.

      They immediately began to decontaminate the helicopter and crew – but before they could the air supply and eventually the water supply onboard got contaminated. The captain was told by the nuclear engineers that it was a major event – apparently there was near panic aboard the ship, so they decided to turn away from their mission to assist. They spent the next two hours outrunning the nuclear cloud – Remember an aircraft carrier is a very fast ship – and the following 3 days scrubbing the ship down, before conducting any humanitarian exercise.

      My bet is those onboard the helicopter got a good dose of plutonium – and are very likely to die of cancer within 3 years or so. I think a portion, if not all, of the sailors on the Reagan and the other ships in the battle group did as well. I hope that’s not true, but i’m pretty sure it is. I’m quite certain the Navy isn’t telling them the whole story.

      • Whoopie Whoopie

        Interesting James2. This should be HEADLINE NEWS EVERYWHERE!

        • Whoopie Whoopie

          Hope you don’t mind. I posted your story on the Coup Thread.
          “A fellow poster”…
          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/12/nrc-coup-leader-worked-fo_n_1143895.html

          • James2

            You’ll get blasted for telling the story – it’s all true, but they’ve done all kinds of things to try and cover it up – including changing the dates of when Reagan redeployed.

            It happened the morning of March 14th Japan time – which was still March 13th Eastern time.

            I’ve had several people try to argue with me that the Reagan redeployed on the 13th – the day before the #3 explosion. I tell them I was watching it real-time and it was still the 13th in the US, but was the 14th in Japan.

            • Whoopie Whoopie

              Well it posted. We’ll see what comes from it.
              It’s a story that needs to be told.
              Bet you’d find some believers at Veterans Today.
              They probably saw it too…or heard about it.

              • Whoopie Whoopie

                Outnow just posted:
                “Good info. When I saw the carrier race out of there, I knew that there was classified and withheld informatio­n and measuremen­ts. Actions speak many volumes while tongues may wag. Why wouldn’t our carriers flee a plume that is deadly? The citizens of Fukushima were not given this opportunit­y.

            • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

              @James2

              Nothing could be more revealing than your story of the intention of the PTB’s real opinion of we the people.

              Altering the facts. Prevaricating. Sickening.

          • James2

            Holy moly Whoopie

            I just saw you linked to this plutonium dispersion model page –

            http://www.datapoke.org/blog/89/study-modeling-fukushima-npp-p-239-and-np-239-atmospheric-dispersion/

            I’VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS INFORMATION SINCE MARCH 14TH!!!!

            I can’t believe I missed it – and quite frankly I’m scared to death now that I see it.

            Have you had this for awhile?

            • Whoopie Whoopie

              NO. PAUL LANGLEY GOT IT FROM A READER
              http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/

            • Whoopie Whoopie

              SEND IT INTO TIPS EH?

            • lam335 lam335

              I had posted a link to that model on the discussion thread a couple of weeks ago and was really surprised that hardly anyone seemed to notice it. If that model is accurate, it’s incredibly alarming.

            • lam335 lam335

              There is one thing that I wonder about with this model. My understanding is that the Plutonium, etc., was only able to travel very far because it had been
              vaporized (or aerosolized? Not sure which word) by the intense explosion(s) at #3. But my understanding is that over time (don’t know how much time) that plutonium, etc., would precipitate back into its particulate form which is somehow heavier (is that right/possible?), so once that happened, I would think it would not be able to continue traveling through the air at the same rate and would begin to fall out more quickly. Can anybody with more of a science background provide any insight on this question? Does anyone know how long it would take for a vaporized element like that to turn bad into a solid form (and can the solid form be heavier than the gaseous form)?

              (I wish I had paid more attention to chemistry class in high school. But who could have foreseen that we’d all be living through the biggest non-consentual science experiment in human history.)

              • lam335 lam335

                non-consentual = non-consensual

                My inner spell-checker is not yet awake.

              • James2

                It’s a good question

                If the plutonium were still in a nanometer ground powder – 100 times as fine as dust – it could travel a long way. Then the question is how could it remain in a fine powder?

                This is the question at the heart of the matter – virtually no data exists – I couldn’t find any, and any experts I found had differences of opinion.

                One guy told me – off the record – that it could definitely. Several people shouted me down saying it’s impossible.

              • LiberationFront

                In case there was any need to clarify the possibility that plutonium can be evaporated (volatilized) this study from the US Atomic Energy Commission confirms that 99% of Pu is volatilized at 1680 deg C.

                http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/4358713-t3CNi0/4358713.pdf

                As for the precipitation back into a solid form? thats a good question and one that needs to be worked out. As far as I know deposition of volatilized radionuclides occurs in two ways:

                dry deposition: the gaseous isotopes run into something solid (like a bush, mountain, or the side of a SFP for example) and stick there.

                Wet deposition: rain takes the radionuclides out of the atmosphere and deposits them onto the ground.

                Does this help?

      • lam335 lam335

        Interesting account. What is your source for this? Can you provide a link?

  • stock stock@hawaii.rr.com

    The Big Lies are Chronicled Here
    http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/p/best-lies-of-nuclear.html

    And a bunch of useful, forgive me -disorganized, information are stored here–
    http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/p/japan-nuclear-information.html

    THE LIE: “Nuclear is Safe as Long as You Can Feed Power Into Them”/ Carrington Event

    The current lie is a form of misdirection….a shell game of sorts. By pretending that by increasing the current hours of backup power available at Nuke Plants from 4 hours to 8 hours, that in that case “Nuclear is Safe”. The answer is Heck No! There are still many compelling reasons to eliminate nuclear power from our planet even if they made their backup power better than 4 hours. And one of these MOST COMPELLING is the Carrington Event.

    Mr. Carrington was a researcher who observed the sun with a …..

    • lam335 lam335

      If increasing the battery life from 4 to 8 hours were sufficient, Fukushima would not have happened. Fukushima HAD 8 hours of battery power. But the plants still melted down.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Actually, the earthquake broke pipes in the cooling system. They have been unable to repair them and would have been unable to repair them no matter how much time could have been provided by more batteries.

        Fukushima – failure by design
        http://brainmindinst.blogspot.com/2011/07/fukushima-failure-by-design.html

        Fukushima: Failure of the Mind
        http://brainmindinst.blogspot.com/2011/05/fukushima-failure-of-mind.html

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          Quotation from:

          Fukushima – failure by design
          http://brainmindinst.blogspot.com/2011/07/fukushima-failure-by-design.html

          “…The quake may have ruptured that piping, providing a continuous escape route for coolant, steam, and non-condensible gases, e.g. hydrogen and radioactive noble gases, from the suppression pool. The suppression pool, however, supplies the coolant for the emergency core cooling system. According to Jake Adelstein and David McNeill’s post with the title “Meltdown: What Really Happened at Fukushima?” published online in the Atlantic Wire on Jul. 2, 2011, eyewitnesses report that the earthquake immediately inflicted widespread, substantial damage to piping at the plant…..”

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          Quotation from:

          Fukushima: Failure of the Mind
          http://brainmindinst.blogspot.com/2011/05/fukushima-failure-of-mind.html

          “…It is feared that Reactors 2 and 3 underwent similar loss of coolant accidents and reactor core meltdowns. The latter experienced the most violent explosion, destroying the service floor of its building completely….”

      • James2

        The real problem is building a device that is naturally in an “on” position rather than naturally in an “off” position. That’s why no reactor design – not even the new “safer” ones, is even remotely safe.

        There is no safe nuke power until a totally abandoned and totally without power, unit cools itself to cold shutdown without any intervention.

        Every nuke reactor has to be run, monitored and powered 24/7/365 without fail, or it will melt down exactly like these in just a few hours. Not only that, but even when shut down, the fuel must still be actively cooled for YEARS before it can even be placed in dry storage.

        Even if we decided to shut down all the reactors today – we will pay for them for the next 10 years to be cooled.

        It’s a brilliant design for a bomb – a horrible design for power generation.

        • stock stock@hawaii.rr.com

          Even if they self shutdown, the other problems like long term radiation are still enough to say enough with this farce. Nukes should show as soon as reasonable possible.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Wow. Technetium
    It is the lowest atomic number element without any stable isotopes; every form of it is radioactive. Nearly all technetium is PRODUCED SYNTHETICALLY and only minute amounts are found in nature. Naturally occurring technetium occurs as a spontaneous fission product in uranium ore or by neutron capture in molybdenum ores. The chemical properties of this silvery gray, crystalline transition metal are intermediate between rhenium and manganese.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technetium

  • TheWorldIsBlind

    good morning world. here is my latest issue. i work at a nissan dealership. on our new cars it shows the percent manufactured in us/canada and japan. some cars are 60/40 respectively and others 100% japan – fukoda. i google mapped this, its on the very south island. my question is could these cars contain radioactive material?

    • stock stock@hawaii.rr.com

      Sure, a car from Kansas could.

      • TheWorldIsBlind

        once i start making $$ here im gunna buy a geiger counter bcuz i want to know. i literally spend all day nxt to new cars – im a salesman – just started. im curious as all hell – but i need money so wtf can i do

        • Whoopie Whoopie

          Geiger counters are gonna go THROUGH THE ROOF.
          Change professions. 🙁 Maybe someone is NEAR YOU that has one. I’m curious too.

        • or-well

          @TheWorldIsBlind,
          Maybe you’re safer than the Parts Dept. folks.

          I was told the cigarette lighter for my Toyota comes from a Japanese plant, even tho the car was assembled in Canada.

          They said much of the electrical/electronic parts come from Japan.

          (That’s why a stupid cig lighter cost so much.)

          • TheWorldIsBlind

            no these cars are veing producedafter 3/11. im sitting next to a maxima that was produced 10/11. 15% manufactured in japan

          • lam335 lam335

            It may not even be only “Japanese” cars. Remember that for several weeks after March 11, Ford couldn’t get certain colors of paint for some of their vehicles because those paints come from Japan (presumably from areas hit by the earthquake).

            I have heard, incidentally, that many electronic components are manufactured in Japan, so even if the item you buy is coming from China or elsewhere, its internal parts might be from Japan. Maybe such components are produced in very controlled environments and would be clean–I have no idea, but I have decided that there is no electronic device that I need so desperately it cannot wait a few years; I am avoiding buying any such items for the foreseeable future. I just hope my computer and cellphone can hold out that long.

            • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

              @lam335

              I’m driving an “American made” car which was manufactured in the year 2000. It has over 215,000 miles on it and runs like a dream. I intend to repair it when necessary, no matter what, and would not even consider buying a newer car. It has the original paint and it still looks good. It is the best car I have ever owned (and I have owned quite a few).

    • Human0815

      @ The world is blind,

      you should not fear, they can’t be contaminated
      (Export Regulations)
      and are maybe produced even before 03.11!

      But you can build a GC by yourself,
      you will find Plans how to do it (DIY)
      everywhere and you just need a few Parts
      from a Shop.

      Or you buy just a cheap Model via EBay,
      the Radex 1706 (ca. 300USD) and even the Soeks
      (Ca. 180USD)is enough
      you don’t need to spend a huge amount!

      • TheWorldIsBlind

        but who says the us is even monitoring this? who can u trust. what needs to be done is seld testing. if somrone wants to b generous enough to donate a geiger counter id lovee u forever 🙂

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    I JUST SENT THIS IN AS A TIP. If your a HP member please do the same http://www.huffingtonpost.com/contact/
    Who knows…they might report it.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    I ALERTED Paul Langley to this new news. Here’s a new one from him:
    Leaked TEPCO Plutonium dispersion maps from Fukushima
    From a reader.
    http://www.datapoke.org/blog/89/study-modeling-fukushima-npp-p-239-and-np-239-atmospheric-dispersion/
    source link forwarded by Md Murad. Thank you.
    It took until October for J Gov to admit plutonium had been released in the plumes and was in soil samples outside the 30 km radius. It then announced it would not be releasing any further Pu monitoring data.
    http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/leaked-tepco-plutonium-dispersion-maps-from-fukushima/

    • James2

      GE nuclear engineers – “we’ll melt your world” and if you don’t like it, we’ll simply market it as something else…

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      Hitachi? Can these guys be trusted? NO. Also, uses liquid sodium. Wasn’t that the problem with the greatest nuclear disaster in the US? The 1959 meltdown in Santa Susana, CA. Safer? Care to explain that? Oh, CAN’T!!!!!!!!!!!!

      This Post-Fukushima Nuclear Reactor Runs on Nuclear Waste

      “One of the most promising answers came from General Electric Hitachi, which proposed building a nuclear reactor that can process plutonium, producing low-carbon electricity and producing safer, easier to store nuclear waste.

      “The technology behind the new reactor, called PRISM, was developed in the United States. By using liquid sodium to cool the reactor instead of water, engineers say, the reactor can accomplish nuclear fission with chemically heavier fuels, including modified nuclear waste. One ton of used nuclear fuel can produce enough electricity to power 600,000 U.S. homes for one year—as much as three million tons of coal….”
      http://www.good.is/post/this-post-fukushima-nuclear-reactor-runs-on-nuclear-waste/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+good%2Flbvp+%28GOOD+Main+RSS+Feed%29

      • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

        @anne

        As someone said here recently, evil never takes a holiday, never rests, does not become addicted to drugs, etc., etc. They just never give up do they?

        I saw this some time ago and was really horrified by it. They assume everyone has forgotten Simi Valley.

    • lam335 lam335

      re: “While the controversy over nuclear power—whether the benefits of clean energy are worth the environmental, human and security risks—isn’t going away any time soon, the pressures of climate change will maintain nuclear power as a viable part of a clean energy strategy.”

      Nuclear power is NOT CLEAN ENERGY!!!

      • James2

        Please note that the nuclear industry has been a big proponent of AGW.

        I know probably many here believe in AGW, but trust me, I’ve studied the details pretty carefully, and it’s a scam. Just like “nuclear safety” it sounds logical and reasonable, and lots of people have bought the concept lock-stock-and-barrel, but the raw data tells a different story.

        That’s why the greenies are having so much trouble with this right now. It’s why Bill Gates has been investing in nuclear energy – proof positive that you can dupe pretty smart people.

        Bill would be smart to dump his position pretty quickly.

  • All you teachers out there may consider teaching about nuclear contamination.. The first hand stories make for some interesting reading too…

    It is amazing how the story never seems to change. According to one of the fallout victims, unless you were a fetus, the US army did not consider anyone else to be exposed to radiation, right after the Nagasaki and Hiroshima events. Many people suffered and died, but never got any help or assistance from the US, much less receiving information about radiation exposure or what to do about it.

    Those that did the best seemed to have concentrated on traditional healing and nutritional methods such as rice balls with miso, and/or herbs/acupuncture. Read for yourself. Those that suffered and died seemed to rely only on doctors and hospitals.

    http://iis-db.stanford.edu/pubs/22140/Radiation_Effects_WebV.pdf

  • Bobby1

    Technitium-99m is the decay product of molybdenum-99, which has a half-life of 2.4 days.

    “Molybdenum-99 is produced commercially by intense neutron-bombardment of a highly purified uranium-235 target, followed rapidly by extraction.[3] It is used as a parent radioisotope in technetium-99m generators to produce the even shorter-lived daughter isotope technetium-99m, which is used in many medical procedures.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_molybdenum

    So Mo-99 is produced when a prompt criticality (or nuclear explosion) bombards uranium (or plutonium), present in the fuel, with neutrons.

    The day after the #3 explosion, the CTBTO detected a large amount of Tc-99m at Takasaki. Since this isotope has a very short half-life, there must have been a much larger amount of Mo-99 produced.

    The document at:

    http://www.nrl.moh.govt.nz/faq/nrlreport2005-1.pdf

    is about how the test-ban treaty organization uses isotope ratios to determine whether nuclear explosions have occurred. On page 41,

    “Within the period up to 10 days after production, 99Mo is by far the most predominant fission-product likely to be detected. Because of this, special attention should be paid to its detection even if this occurs in the absence of other significant radionuclides, particularly if the 99Mo is detected at trace levels such that other significant nuclides might have been present but below their limits of detectability.”

    Table 10 on page 37 has the isotope ratios for a Chinese nuclear test in 1976. The relative amounts of Mo-99, Te-132, I-131, and Ba-140 correspond to what was measured after #3 exploded…

    • Bobby1

      Not only that, if you go to Table 6 on page 30, you will find a list of neutron activation products. Notice Eu-152 and Eu-152m on there. These are only detected when neutrons bombard control rods or soil, they are not produced in significant amounts by fission.

      When the report of the intense hotspot at the supermarket at Setagaya came out in October, they detected europium. That is why I thought that ANOTHER nuclear explosion had occurred. Then Tepco released the report of Xenon-133 and 135, and shortly after that, the IAEA said it detected Iodine-131 over Europe. That was when my thyroid swelled up and was bulging out of my neck.

  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    This article precedes Fukushima, but gives a clear look at what has been transpiring between the industry and our elected…
    http://investigativereportingworkshop.org/investigations/nuclear-energy-lobbying-push/story/nuclear-energy-working-hard-win-support/