Newspaper: Increasing worry on West Coast over Fukushima radiation; “Really concerned” about affect on wildlife and most importantly our health; ‘Big black hole’ where data should be — Professor: “We do not know full extent… we’re just watching the West Coast unfold” — Official: Important we sample for plume — Fish oil being tested

Published: June 26th, 2014 at 4:14 pm ET


TRIUMF (Canada National Laboratory), June 3, 2014: Radiation Experts Meet in Vancouver […] Several talks focused on the aftermath of the Fukushima nuclear plant partial meltdown in 2011. Robin Brown, Department of Fisheries and Oceans, spoke about the importance of the sampling the department is conducting off the coast of Vancouver Island to monitor the transport of radioactive contaminants via ocean currents from Fukushima.

William Reed Business Media, June 26, 2014: The International Fish Oil Standards (IFOS) Program […] is now testing fish oil samples for radiation, with Wiley’s Finest as the first adopter. […] William Rowe, founder of the IFOS Program [said] “Consumers and retailers have shown an increased awareness and requirement for informed choice since the Fukushima tragedy” […] According to NDI, there has been a substantial increase in consumer inquiries in the wake of Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant disaster […] Sam Wiley, CEO of Wiley’s Finest, told us that the company’s store level interactions with supplement managers, supplement staff, and consumers in the natural channel have consistently communicated that radiation contamination in fish oil is a significant concern with consumers.

Adam Ismail, Global Organization for EPA and DHA Omega-3s: “Consumers are asking about this and we expect them to continue asking as long as the Fukushima plant continues to be an issue.”

Sam Wiley, CEO of Wiley’s Finest: “It does appear to be at least a contributing factor to some of the downturn we have seen in omega-3s. A few months ago we thought it was a concern isolated mostly to the west coast, but we are consistently getting feedback from other regions.”

Prof. Dale Dewar, University of Saskatchewan‘s department of family medicine, June 25, 2014: “We really do not know the extent of the ionizing radiation that’s going to be reaching us [from Fukushima]; we are just watching the West Coast unfold. One of the really frightening things about ionizing radiation is that [effects such as] even most rapidly growing cancers, like leukemia and thyroid cancers, are not visible in an exposed population until several years after. Part of the reason we do not know the full extent is that nobody is officially monitoring it, and that’s a very scary thought. […] We always say that levels are negligible or permissible, because it’s likely not going to harm us immediately and exposure is not going to show up in measurable statistical levels right away. But there is no safe level of radiation.”

Statesman Journal, June 25, 2014: Talk in the Oregon coast town of Bandon often turns to the approaching plume of sea-borne radiation from Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant. […] Massive amounts of contaminated water were released to the sea and continue to build up at the plant. […] [Oregon officials are] not looking for cesium-134, the “fingerprint” of radiation from Fukushima.

Zac Adams, owner of Bandon Designs construction company: “We’ve been worried about it and worried about it. We’re really concerned about it affecting the fisheries, the wildlife, the tourism, and most importantly our health. […] There’s a big black hole where information should be.”

Lisa Phipps, executive director of Tillamook Estuaries Partnership: “Over the last year-and-a-half, it’s been an issue that’s been raising in prominence along the coastline. In our area, there have been groups that have been coming together to talk about what is happening in the ocean.”

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Published: June 26th, 2014 at 4:14 pm ET


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112 comments to Newspaper: Increasing worry on West Coast over Fukushima radiation; “Really concerned” about affect on wildlife and most importantly our health; ‘Big black hole’ where data should be — Professor: “We do not know full extent… we’re just watching the West Coast unfold” — Official: Important we sample for plume — Fish oil being tested

  • Hot and Bothered Hot and Bothered

    I am glad to see more and more people are figuring it out!
    The whole "no immediate threat" line won't work forever 😛

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      more people figuring it out? Hardly

      This year’s conference focused on managing risks-both real and imagined. Keynote speaker David Ropeik delivered the opening talk, Fear vs. Radiation. David Ropeik is an author and consultant in risk perception, risk communication, and risk management.

      United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation and the World Health Organization reports show there have no been no immediate health effects from radiation and the long-term health effects are predicted to be minimal and potentially below detection limits.

      • norbu norbu

        Some people know
        A few of these people care a little
        even fewer of these people keep a close Eye on it.
        A small number who are left are so involved with this monster there life will never be the same and They Know It.

        • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

          Norbu- I fully agree once you realize the depth of the problem, life is no longer the same. BTW, I know two 46 yo people who just fell over dead of heart attacks in the last two weeks, and another 47 yo whose heart required two valves replaced. Where did they live….Southern California the west coast. They were all in previous good health. Kind of like all the sea stars, the sea lions, the whales, the birds……………..

          Peace to you and yours Norbu-

          • 4Yahshua

            6~28~5995 (out of 6000) Sabbath in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"! Nuclear Winter NOT Summer!

            newsblackoutUSA, your title is so RIGHT ON! Yesterday we received the latest copy of "Westways" the publication of the CA Auto Club. Guess what is on the cover. A beautiful photo and article about the "healing waters" of JAPAN! The author apparently spent three weeks bicycling and partaking of these waters all over Japan. NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THE CURRENT RADIATION DANGERS AND FUKUSHIMA!!
            The good news is that we live in Orange County, CA about 6 miles from Huntington Beach. We are 84 and 66. TRUE FAITH along with supplements seem to keep us going! These include 12 mg. iodine, boron, C,D3, and others in substantial doses,healthy diet including almonds made into milk, and etc. because they kill cancer cells.
            It is so very sad that your friends are gone too soon!
            I pray that you will SURVIVE THIS! Blessings!

          • norbu norbu

            newsblackoutUSA, Thanks. Things are moving a bit faster I think. We are out of here soon. To where, we dont know but away from the coast, far away.
            Peace and well being to you and your family.

      • We Not They Finally

        Sme people have to die first then figure out what killed them? Doesn't make sense? Of course it doesn't!

        But if enough people AROUND them die, something might get through. Until then it's silent, invisible, can't see, feel or touch it. We used to have open enemies in the world. Now it's just secret demonic forces. It makes education all that much the harder.

      • bo bo

        Ropeik's catchily coined term 'perceived risk' or 'perception of risk' has been successful in impressing bozos and I often see them wing this term around like mammoth bones in 'intellectual' and 'balanced' conversations regarding radiation.

        This mammoth bone is my own 'perceived risk' – as soon as I see it I start running.

        • bo bo

          Ropeik list of his 3 titles-

          How Risky Is It, Really? : Why Our Fears Don't Always Match the Facts
          How Risky Is It, Really?

          Here's his blog – dedicated solely to 'perception of risk'

          Some recent blogposts from that page:
          Nuclear Power. It's not about the facts. It's how those facts FEEL
          The Risk of Fear of Vaccines

          Some of his articles – ( on top of this list he is constantly churning out slush for HuffPo and Psychology Today )

          Let's Get Real About Risk, opinion essay, The Washington Post, Aug. 6, 2002

          Risk Communication: A Neglected Tool in Protecting Public Health, Ropeik D, Slovic, P, Risk in Perspective ( yes, there is a whole magazine dedicated to this) vol. 11, issue 2, June 2003

          Dealing with the Danger of Fear: The Role of Risk Communication, Health Affairs vol. 21, no. 6, 106-116, Nov./Dec 2002

          Be Afraid of Being Very Afraid, opinion essay, The Washington Post, Oct. 20, 2002

          Risk Communication, More Than Facts, an article for the semi-annual magazine of the International Atomic Energy Agency ( BINGO! )2008

          “Risk Communication, An Overlooked Tool for Improving Public Health”, a chapter for the textbook Public Health and Preventive Medicine, 2008

  • nedlifromvermont

    Come on people … it's time to wake up to our collective nuclear tragedy …

    Maybe they don't read the paper? Maybe they aren't equipped to deal such a grande malaise … on such a colossal scale as Fukushima …

    There is still time to get it right on civilian nuclear power … SHUT THEM ALL DOWN NOW!!! Then you might begin to solve the problem.

    Case study: Alcoholics Anonymous 101

    Admit you have a problem. Stop the behavior which is the problem.

    So sorry the nuke-tards are so hard headed!

    peace 'newsers … rock on!!!!!!!

  • Oh yeah. Triumf. See

    They talk about testing west coast water not west coast salmon.
    The salmon they barbecued and ate. They are nuclear cheerleaders. Bio-accumulation is not mentioned. They wish to manage the public's perception of the dangers of nuclear technology not manage the danger.

    • We Not They Finally

      There is so much t test, so many radionuclides with different effects, that it's like alphabet soup. It takes education and that is daunting to do in this climate of suppression.

      We have found, however, that some people just instinctively KNOW, so those are the people that we work at getting info to. A lot of people know that something is terribly wrong and they are reachable. So rather than focus on, we should tell this one, we should tell that one, we look and see who is reachable. There is no human that it is not important to reach if it can be done.

      • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

        You are so right WNTF people need to know ALL the dangers we are facing and take whatever precautions necessary to avoid as much of the nasties as we can. The big problem is that when I tell people that I know there is danger but I don't have any data to back it up I am not as nearly believable. Not that people really want to know their life is in danger or the world is going to hell! They don't like to hear it! Getting the testing done and to the public must be such a devastating choice to make that they are avoiding the truth to avoid economic and social collapse. My guess is we are screwed. I was thinking that the day the first reactor exploded. I tried warning others to stay out of the rain and don't eat food from California or seafood, while they were doing it! You think anyone took me serious? Not a one! Nadda! We need test results for everything from our food and drink to our homes and public places and soils where our food is grown! ASAP!

        • name999 name999

          It is better to know because with some care our bodies do shed even nuclear waste. But it may involve a move and knowing that is not a cure.

    • mutante mutante

      Right on 🙂

      • name999 name999

        I am certain that shutting them all down would bring immediate relief. Getting away from the worst of it is helping by a physical move. That is the simple cure that these people invested in the nuclear industry don't seem to get.

        They will feel better. Their families and co-workers and waitresses and bus drivers will feel better.

        All nuclear plants for energy and weapons need to be shut down. Then the true healing can start.

  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    It's like saying Monsanto's GMO foods are good for you. They know all of us & we don't know them all, but the people will wake up just as they are dying in masses!

  • dosdos dosdos

    Bureaucratic monkeys, CDC: hear no radiation, EPA: see no radiation, USDA: say no radiation.

  • WesternKyMan

    If you listen, you can hear it.

    The final nails are being driven into the nuclear power industries coffin.

    Fukushima will be the straw that broke the proverbial camels back.

  • Ontological Ontological

    It is not the radiation so much as the toxic ELEments in our bio system. 3rd time I have made this statement. Spin.
    Where were these idiots 3 years ago? Oh I can answer that. Too busy money grubbing the bottom line to involve themselves in such a trivial little matter as a triple meltdown, and one corium aerosolizing so far away in Japan.

  • Daisy207

    Clearly they need to be testing the water at multiple locations and multiple depths along the west coast and Canada and a few miles out to sea- looking for changes in ocean water. But also they need to be testing surface water that is used for drinking and agriculture – looking specifically for tritium and other particulates that precipitated into those sources after the initial event. They need to be testing rain fall samples across the country for tritium and gross alpha and beta. That water makes its way into reservoirs and wells. Or at least they need to be releasing data that they may already have. If its in the water – its in the air, its in the ground, its in the food and ITS IN YOU.

    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi Daisy207

      I agree. I do believe it is everywhere.

      I bet they have been testing all along. I also believe they know more than they are going to admit.

  • WindorSolarPlease

    Quote: just watching the West Coast unfold

    This is true..That's what everyone is doing, just watching the progress of this disaster unfold slowly.
    There won't be any evacuations for anyone.

  • They should be testing the water and the fish downstream of Hanford on the Columbia, Great lakes where lake Ontario alone has about twenty npp and many other locations worldwide.
    If you read the link provided by enenews to the triumf site you will read how they are more concerned with public perception then anything else. Typical. Also read in news today how scientists have proof pesticides are killing the bees but industry doesn't want to do anything as pesticide makes farming more profitable.
    Part of the same problem as we are being sold a bill of goods that we must choose between a strong economy or a clean environment. I believe we can have both.

  • itsanuclearwar

    Good luck on getting an accurate measurements of the ocean radiation levels. Shill Ken Buesseler is in charge and asking for more donations as reported in the article referenced in the headlines.

    "And fund-raising is underway for two more sites, in Newport and Winchester Bay.

    Altogether about 30 sites, from Alaska to Baja, Calif., have been funded, said Ken Buesseler, a chemical oceanographer at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution who put together the project, called "How Radioactive is Our Ocean?"

    It uses crowd-sourced money and volunteers to collect water samples along the Pacific Coast, then ship them to Buesseler in Massachusetts to be analyzed on an $80,000 instrument.

    Each sample costs $550 to $600, depending on location.

    "I really hope everybody gets together so we can fund Woods Hole to do more of these," Adams said. "There's a big black hole where information should be."

    Northwest of Hawaii, for example, Buesseler has found Cesium-134 at concentrations as high as 3.8 becquerels per cubic meter.

    But to put that in context, he said, the U.S. drinking water limit is 7,400 of those units.

    "Every additional radiation exposure causes additional risks for cancer," he said. "But when the numbers are in the one to 10 range, that's a very small additional risk."

    That's the range that is expected to hit our shores, with lower levels coming first."

    The black hole will remain.

  • Sickputer

    Try looking for strontium-90 once and awhile Kenny. Cesium-137 is toxic, but strontium-90 has a MUCH higher punch. And we know where there is escaped cesium from a nuclear reactor, there is an equivalent amount of the nasty bone-seeking strontium-90.

    And the elephant in the room…the other 1900+ radioactive isotopes that are produced by every nuclear reactor. Many are short-lived, but 100 are long enduring. Plutonium and uranium being exceptionally long. Far longer than the human race will survive.

    • Sol Man

      Gosh! He probably just never thought of the others, or forgot while he was too busy fund-raising. He has his priorities.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Ah, progress. The fish oil people are seeing reduced sales.

    The money. Thats how it will be done.

    Thats the color of the awakening.

    Whats that gonna cost. Only humans feel that.


    And Uncle Sam wants you!

    Need a Job? Got skills?

    Seems the Pacific needs chemists.

    Inquiring minds want to know if the equipment is contaminated.

    Any takers?

    Job Title:CHEMIST

    Department:Department of the Navy

    Agency:U.S. Pacific Fleet, Commander in Chief

    Job Announcement Number:NW41320-12-1152056QO841357

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Yummy! No doubt some of the fish used were swimming off the bikini atoll or maybe around all those dumped barrels of radiation waste now leaking all over in the/our oceans.. 🙁 No worries!

      • combomelt combomelt


        • combomelt combomelt




          • bo bo

            Yes and let me guess combo – that salmon is on fiestaware and you're using red plastic utensils.

            Nice to see you back.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Don't go in the water either.

    It's all dirty and full of bacteria.

    Filthy Ocean. No one needs that…

    There's Something In Oregon's Ocean Water

    As an aside, that plume of banana piss will be at our shores soon.

    So break out the chips and throw those toxic suckers away.

    Just don't go in the water. Your willie will turn to goo and fall off.

    Kinda makes the hot dogs look healthy…

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Safe Water! What a novel concept…

  • Jebus Jebus

    I used to love smoked salmon.

    I wonder if that species will be affected.

    Salmon Migration Patterns Revealed the Temporal and Spatial Fluctuations of the Radiocesium Levels in Terrestrial and Ocean Environments

    Partial Abstract…

    The disabling of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant (F1NPP) resulted in the release of radionuclides, including 134Cs and 137Cs, into the air and the ocean. The unpredicted nuclear accident is of global concern for human health and the ecosystem. Although investigations of radionuclides in environments were performed shortly after the accident started, the temporal and spatial impacts and fluctuations on the releasing radionuclides to natural environment remain unclear. I focused on salmon, which migrate from inland to the open ocean globally, to reveal the three-year (May 2011 to February 2014) fluctuations and accumulations of 134Cs and 137Cs from terrestrial to open ocean environments after the F1NPP accident. The 134Cs and 137Cs concentrations in six salmonids exhibited lower temporal variations for three years after the F1NPP accident, suggesting that these radionuclides are widely distributed and these radionuclides remain in the natural environment globally with less convergence.

    • Jebus Jebus

      lol! he said "disabling"…


    • Jebus Jebus

      Do these sudo scientists have to pay homage to the nuclear industry before, during, and after every study?

      • rogerthat

        Bertrand Russell: ''Men of science are being increasingly compelled to pursue the ends of governments rather than those proper to science.''

      • rogerthat

        Bertrand Russell: ''Men of science are being increasingly compelled to pursue the ends of governments rather than those proper to science.''

        – that was written a long time ago. these days i think governments and men of science are being increasingly compelled to pursue the ends of corporations rather than those proper to science.

  • Sickputer

    For such an intelligent organism, it is puzzling that naked apes have to emulate almost all other animals and foul their drinking and fishing water. I can understand a goat, a cow, even an elephant fouling their water, but the humans?

    We went to the moon! Repeatedly and returned safely. But we just can't resist using every single part of this beautiful world to crap in, throw poison in it, and make worthless money while doing it.

    One day clean water to drink will be a precious commodity far more valuable than gems or gold. Wars have been fought over water and land usage and the trend will accelerate as life-giving resources become scarce.

    There is no promise or hope when Pandoras nuclear box has been fully exposed. It's a planet killer. I seriously doubt man can find a way to escape earth and find another refuge like earth. Earth was always special for mankind until a wretched few naked apes turned it into hell. Earth will recover over many thousands of years. Perhaps a new rebirth from human survivors will get it right the second time. We can only hope so.

    • itsanuclearwar

      I wonder what the George Bush was thinking when he bought all the land in South America that sits on top of a huge aquifer. They knew something was up.

      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

        yes…they knew.

      • 4Yahshua

        6~28~5995 (out of 6000) Sabbath in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!
        Nuclear Winter NOT Summer in these last of the evil days!

        Yeah, they PLANNED it along with 9/11, H.A.A.R.P., and almost everything else that is evil in these last 33 years.

        THE GREAT NEWS!!

        YAHSHUA the Messiah, Son of YAHWEH returns VERY SOON and no New World Order Vatican cross (Revelation 13:18) can stop HIM!!

        Please believe in THEM NOW and live forever! Revelation 14:1

        HalleluYah! (Hebrew: Praise ye Yah!)

  • rogerthat

    My simple rule on radiation. There is no safe level. It bioaccumulates. The more you get, the worse off you and your descendants are.

    • nedlifromvermont

      They just had to have the uranium business!!! …. crazy thing is they got the government to give them the research, enrich the uranium for them at no added charge (cost of production only,) take away the liability, insure their capital costs, and take away (or say they would) the nuclear spent fuel … and fudge the numbers, and go easy on the regs, and look the other way when the darn things leaked like sieves and/or melted down … and IT'S STILL A SHITTY BUSINESS!!!

      Brilliant, Coffin!!! Now go shoot Nikolai Tesla in the head again! He's trying to give people free power … and we just can't have that, now can we.

      Go back to bed you silly little apes …

  • weeman

    This is not going away anytime in the near future and over time it can only accumulate, yes we should be tuned in, are you on my frequency, if not you will be only to soon.

  • Aw shoot! More easy bland puff pieces by a mostly out of towners so to speak, and not at all who I was hoping they'd interview. I saw Bandon, OR up there and had a moment of excitement because I lived there for years and there's a pretty wild 50 mile stretch to the south,(compared to the more city joined to city areas). It has always been full of writers, artists, watchdogs and activists. Not the type of people who'd be clamoring to get their names or businesses in the paper though. Or be taken in by Buesseler's bunch.

    Everything I read in the links was same 'o same 'o reporting and avoided searching out anything happening at a real boots on the ground level. But then, how would they know who the silent warriors are. Heh!

  • dunkilo

    not with a bang ,with a whimper:(

    • Sol Man

      Yes, the whimper, because after the bangs (Fukushima, WIPP, Chernobyl) and the seeps (Hanford, Savannah, Arctic Sea, Sellafield & others) come the drifting over all; over the members of the 546 Club, and all of the corporate boards- hey, every single person, the spark can't make the arc, the energy is sapped for all to make any kind of response very unlikely; even all of the security guys (those that sit next to the du in their mraps and stuff!) all is relatively quiet. It must be because nobody has the energy. 'Twas a short and brutal run!

  • jump-ball jump-ball

    Another year from now after the aquatic 'plume' fully contaminates the left coast waters, beaches, harbors, marine life and fishing, and additional FDNPP atmospheric-to-jet-stream emissions precipitate onto San Joaquin Valley crops and other CA soil, livestock and agriculture, the media reporting may be forced to address the new issue: 'Boots in the ground'.

  • mutante mutante

    F**k that nuked fish oil!!

  • combomelt combomelt

    C'mon newsers PAY ATTENTION

    Category 2:
    Purity, Safety &
    Standard Limit Batch Results IFOS Compliance
    PCBs < 45 ppb 3.44 ppb YES
    Dioxins and Furans < 1 ppt 0.124 ppt YES
    Dioxin-Like PCBs < 1.5 ppt 0.318 ppt YES
    Radioactivity < 50 bq/kg 2.7 bq/kg YES

    WTF???? 2.7 bq/kg of FuggING WHAT over there at the friggin IFOS institute AND IT FUGING PASSES WITH A 1 STAR RATING – THUMBS UP BOYS!!!

      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

        combo- I've missed you…I have a co-worker that feeds her kid seaweed from Japan. When I asked her about Fukushima, she said "But I was raised on seaweed and I am fine." What? Is there any hope people will wake up–maybe not. 🙁

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Don't feel too bad. Yesterday I went to my local natural foods co-op and asked if they had any South American or other southern hemisphere cheeses. When I explained why, a customer began to joke with the two store employees about how paranoid I was. They must have stood there and joked about it for five minutes. The 'tards!

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Cheese-tards they shall be.

          • Sol Man

            Most of the people that I mention Fukushima or WIPP to do not have a clue, but, seem to want the information. We do what we can but it is a tough go against the delusions that so many have bought. The wise woman at the mountain top knew, but she read enenews and zerohedge.

            • bo bo

              The problem I'm having is I might have a breakthrough with convincing someone of Fukushima, to that 'omg really? I had NO idea!' stage – but then if I add WIPP on top, it cancels each other out – that same person usually takes a step back and gives me that head-to-toe glare that says 'Ok… hmmm…maybe this person is crazy. I guess I'll still just go have sushi for lunch'

              • bo bo

                So my advice is… go easy with the WIPP cream

                • combomelt combomelt


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              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                cant tell people about Fukushima? Suffer from Chicken Little syndrome?

                Youre up against the zeitgeist, and you have one sentence to prove youre right and the world is wrong, and it better be catchy. Non arguable, short and it should rhyme if possible.

                How does the zeitgeist work? Everyone on the planet is connected through a chain of acquaintances with no more than five intermediaries; the six degrees of seperation rule. Spoken word and belief spread through the world to form an unconscious construct of reality. Someone you know knows someone who knows someone whos friend associate talked to the Queeen.

                When you ask someone to believe that an ELE event may have/has occured, you ask them to believe you over these authorities;

                The president
                Woods Hole
                United Nations Atomic Energy Commission
                World Health Organization
                International Atomic Energy Agency
                World Bank Group


                • chevvvy chev

                  they are all institutions code….
                  what would they know ?….only what institutionalized people know! HEHEHE!

        • combomelt combomelt

          thx newsie! it feels good to be missed here. TY!

        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          I still collect it here on the northern Atlantic .
          Yes the fuku sig was detected in maine in 2012
          I San not find any after that
          I am sandwiched between seabrook and pilgrim
          I collect it and dry it as well as use it in my compost
          The way I figure it
          It is less rads than the west coast
          And we have to eat , it is a large part if my diet too (macrobiotics)
          As this gets into all oceans and food supply more and more each passing day I pick the less of two evils . Scandinavian seaweed it supposed to be the cleanest but I cannot afford it . And does anyone know if that is true . I have many mushroom supplements and supplements that are dated in 2011 .
          I got cases at occupy because I ran the tent that dealt with herbal and the medic tent could not use them by law . Another perk .

  • mutante mutante

    General Ripper says, " Mandrake, did you know that there is a commie plot to destroy our essence through fluoridation?…They are poisoning our precious bodily fluids". — from Dr Strangelove — not word for word but something to that effect.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Deniality – denial of reality

    What can I do about it?
    I can't do anything about it.
    What do you want me to do about it?
    There's nothing I can do about it.
    Your going to make me scared to eat seafood.
    Now it feels like your preaching to me.
    I was in the military, it won't hurt you.
    Thats just an internet rumor.
    It's not on my news channel.
    I never heard that before.
    Fukushima, that was 3 years ago.
    Your just spreading fear.
    I'll have the sea bass.
    Is that going to contaminate my salmon.
    Your just a tree hugger.
    We have to have electricity.
    I don't want to hear about it anymore.
    Oh it wont hurt anyone.
    Hey did you hear, beibers balls dropped…

    • Crickets Crickets

      LOL…Good ones. Especially like the last one.

    • here's my faves from people I honestly thought would listen up:

      Glad I live on the east coast then.
      I'll just wait and see what happens, but thanks.
      Glad you found a new hobby. (changes subject)

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Last chance of those refers to me , I do know that all radiation is bad , I have been fighting for over the last 40 rears against it I. Was part of the clamshell alliance . Look it up please .
        I am a realist though and we have to eat . Can you please tell me what you eat I grow as much I can .. . We cannot be breatharians now can we ?but even that causes problems , so if you don't know me and just what I have been doing don't tell me I am ignorant .
        I'm sorry if this seems to you as an insult , but I can't stand by and have you saying this .
        Sorry off topic we can take this to another forum now if need be . I do not want to get trapped into a mess as we had last weekend and won't .

        • Huh? Clamsheller, I'm talking about stuff people (that don't know ANYTHING about Fukushima being a problem) have said to me when they absolutely do not want to be told any basic info regarding Fukushima's continuing emissions.

          You on the other hand most certainly ARE already knowledgeable and have been extremely involved from the get go, which I applaud. 🙂

          What do I eat? Always the best choice of what there is available to me that I can afford. I never tell other people what they should do or eat. They would have had to ask about what I'm doing foodwise, if they were interested. Then I'd talk possibilities.

    • Crickets Crickets

      But I have one that tops the list…I brought up the subject of Fukushima with an employee at a grocery store where I often shop. He was showing customers pictures from his smart phone of some fish he had caught on a fishing trip he took with his kids off the California coast. When I mentioned Fukushima, he had no idea what I was talking about, and this guy is someone I can usually have an intelligent conversation with! After reminding him of the large earthquake/tsunami/npp disaster that happened over in Japan a few years ago, he finally said "Oh yea and chuckled a bit." But I'm not sure he ever got the connection I was trying to make between the fish he caught and potential radiation contamination. I just couldn't bring myself to tell him what I was really thinking: If you haven't already eaten those beauties yet, I advise you to dispose of them. Don't allow your family to feast on fish that come from the Pacific Ocean…they may be contaminated with radioactive isotopes!

    • Geneva Snow Geneva Snow

      While our T-shirt sales have been temporarily halted, the Café Thorium does provide radioanalytical services for the detection of natural and man-made radionuclides in environmental samples. We also have an archive of large volume (50 liter) seawater samples from the 1950’s-1980 that can be available for the right scientific project.;_ylu=X3oDMTE0cW1wN25hBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMjcEY29sbwNncTEEdnRpZANUQUNBMDFfMQ–/RV=2/RE=1403877587/RO=10/

    • mutante mutante

      Jebus, I feel you. Everyone has had enough of this "internet conspiracy" from me. They just change the subject when I bring it up or just say that they have worry about "real" things. DENIAL is everywhere 🙁

  • Geneva Snow Geneva Snow

    A big black hole where data should be… ?

    A Black Hole or a Wood Hole? I can think of another "Hole" but we are being polite here 😉;_ylu=X3oDMTE0cW1wN25hBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMjcEY29sbwNncTEEdnRpZANUQUNBMDFfMQ–/RV=2/RE=1403877587/RO=10/

    "Cafe Thorium". Radioactive espresso chat with Ken Butthead…

    It is an outrage that the public is being asked to scrape together nickels and dimes in order to get testing done in the Pacific.

    What do they think that they are doing us- a favor?


  • Geneva Snow Geneva Snow

    Radioactive bluefin tuna. Melting starfish. Starved and seizuring sea lions. Tainted west coast shellfish … Etc. etc. etc.

    Yet, we are told that the seafood is safe to eat!?;_ylu=X3oDMTEzMzFiMXNjBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1RBQ0EwMV8x/RV=2/RE=1403881650/RO=10/

    Thanks "Food Safety News". and Mr. Butthead! We didn't really want to know the horrible truth anyways. Now we can feed our kids tuna fish sandwiches with a clear conscience! For dessert we will have a nice serving of Strontium 90 flavoured ice-cream :). Mmm! Taste the triple meltdown!

  • Crickets Crickets

    Sea Lions, normally in abundance at Fishermans Wharf in San Francisco, mysteriously missing this year. Not a one.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    It's natural is convenient.. 🙂

  • Jebus Jebus

    Check out this soothing economical collection of half truths, omissions, and lies from the False Data Administration.

    Analyses Confirms that Alaska’s Seafood is Safe from Fukushima Radiation

    "The testing found no detections of the Fukushima-related radioisotopes Iodine-131, Cesium-134, or Cesium-137. There was some detection of background or naturally-occurring radiation. The results indicate no appreciable risk from any tested radionuclide in these fish. DEC and DHSS have posted the findings on their websites.
    All samples were analyzed by standard techniques routinely used by the FDA to evaluate food safety. The fish samples were composites, containing tissue from several fish, and were collected using a statistical protocol. Samples were collected across the state from the Aleutian Islands/Bering Sea to Southeast Alaska."

    We live in a world run by three monkeys and a banana…

    • Jebus Jebus

      LOL! look at the name they gave their PDF…

      Predetermined Safe PR.

      Enjoy your Sushi…

      • Geneva Snow Geneva Snow

        "Calculated Fatalities From Radiation"

        Report/study- via The German Society for Radiation Protection (GSRP)

        and the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War (IPPNW)

        Max radiation contamination Level in food should be 5 BcQs per kilo

        USA and Canada is (after Fuku raised to) 1200 BcQs per kilo !

        Everyone needs to read that study (available online- PDF)

        Please, support this US group in their legal petition to reduce criminally high levels
        Of contaminated food NOW allowed in our supermarkets!

  • Geneva Snow Geneva Snow

    To the skeptics, believers of lies and the liars-

    All I can say is that your time will come…

    when you no longer can hide in your comfortable shadow of deceit or ignorance.

    There is no "Safe Level" of radiation.

  • rogerthat

    (by Jeff Kingston, director of Asian Studies, Temple University Japan)

    – most interesting.

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