Published: January 15th, 2012 at 6:42 pm ET
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March 17th, 2011 – JSDF helicopter crews report dose rates of 375 R/hr 300 ft above Reactor 3, Enformable, Jan. 15, 2012:
NRC FOIA
Sent: Thu Mar 17 09:07:38 2011
Subject: FWS “Official Use Only” : 0700 EDT (March 17, 2011) USNRC Earthquake/Tsunami SitRepPlease see attached information and note that this is OUO and should not be shared outside the Federal Family. The below information is addressed further in the attachment.
Federation of Electric Power Companies of Japan (FEPC) reported at 1015 EST, March 16, 2011:
Dose rate at main gate (monitoring station 6) ranged from 150 mr/hr to 1000 mr/hr.
10 Rem/hr west of Unit 3 and 4 (assuming on roadway next to reactor buildings)
30 Rem/hr between Units 2 and 3
40 Rem/hr between Units 3 and 4NHK media report on March 17, 0100 EDT stated that helicopter crews dumping water on Unit 3 reactor building reported dose rates at 375 R/hr at 300 ft. above the building
(1 Rem = 10 millisieverts)
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Published: January 15th, 2012 at 6:42 pm ET
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Wow.
And look at this:
“2011 sets new record for Emergencies and Alerts at US Nuclear Power Stations”
http://enformable.com/2012/01/2011-sets-new-record-for-emergencies-and-alerts-at-us-nuclear-power-stations/
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Oh man! I’m posting that one to HP PRONTO!!
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Not clear if there were twice the alerts in 2011 than all ten years prior combined? NPP’s have safety sensors that when the sniffers detect a surge in radiation it causes the reactor to go into cold shutdown. How many of these were there? I know the one by me here went into scram for no apparent reason after it rained in April. I thought I heard of others doing the same thing. Anyone? There must have been massive amounts of fallout causing this huh?
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More like 375 sieverts rather than 3.75
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And where are those helicopter crews now? I hope those were lead lined helicopters….
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So the helicopter crews were exposed to 4 SV per hour. Was this before or after reactor #3 and #3 spent fuel pool blew up?
Those around Chernobyl were exposed to 50 SV per hour, after it blew up, and before cleanup…
So how can we compare these?
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Then the Radiation at Reactor No. 1 was measured at over 200 Sieverts per hour on May 23, 2011..
Does this mean it blew up too, or just melted down? Is this an indication that this reactor output all by itself was 4 times worse than Chernobyl where the exposure was only 50 Sieverts per hour next to it?
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Dose, rate of dose, and time spent. And credibility.
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Part of me wants to say it’s bullshit. Another part tells me that with an uncovered core, cesium-laden steam and a lack of roof this could very well be true. Yet another part starts wondering if maybe the reports of fuel somehow plopping out of the core… nah. Can’t be.
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“Not be shared outside the Federal Family”–right. Got to let the bigwigs sell off their stocks and sell land/homes before the prices drop. Just keep it quiet for 10 months..before people find out how bad it really is..but 3.75 sieverts an hour over R3 at 300 ft. HUM..did anyone see the IAEG report..modified to say “use helicopters to monitor radiation” to replace local data collections with lots of dosimeters??? Not exact wording.but thats the meaning..to stop local data collection information for radiation, and just use the limited info from helos. Now..just a question..so the data provided by TEPCO..was from 300 FT or more above ground? Because helos fly in the air..they dont skim at 1 meter..so radiation reports..are bogus for ground dwellers..like humans. And last I checked, only human forms with wings are called angels.
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3.75 Sievert/h..and TEPCO says NO MELTDOWN? Stupid. Oh wait..this is the same company who now says those same reactors are in “cold shutdown.” Hey..if all the radiation has been blown out everywhere..and is also into the groundwater..whats left except terrible radiation everywhere.
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Hey Tepco, We don’t need no mo iF…ing press conferences. There’s no lie you can tell us that we don’t already know before you are willing to admit.
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Well, that’s it for me tonight folks.
Leave Japan if you can…
You are in my heart and in my “prayers”.
STAY SAFE!!
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No reason to think it is less now, either, seeing that nothing has changed at fuku. Still spewing out rads 24/7. Question is, of course, where is all that invisible death going? What goes up, must come down.
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You would think that the radiation monitoring satellites would have picked this up? Surely the USG isn’t hiding this information from citizens?
(Sarcasm, in case you didn’t pick it up)
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I see lots of reports of radiation levels around Tokyo, but how is the rest of Japan doing? Anyone seen any reports from Okinawa?
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Hi Pensacola Tiger-
If you’re looking for radiation monitoring data from other areas of Japan, check out the Safecast Monitoring Maps:
http://blog.safecast.org/maps/
Safecast uses crowdsource data for their maps… here’s more about them:
Safecast is a global sensor network for collecting and sharing radiation measurements to empower people with data about their environments.
Some Key Facts About Safecast
•Safecast was created 1 week after the 3/11 Japan earthquake.
•Small core team, with more than 100 regular volunteers worldwide.
•Team concentrated in Tokyo, with smaller support teams globally
•Initially funded via Kickstarter and private donations, Safecast has just received a grant from The John S. and James L. Knight Foundation
•Currently deployed sensors: 35 mobile / 50 handheld / 50 static
•Another 300 devices will be active by the end 2011.
•As of November 2011, over 1,250,000 data points collected.
•All data collected and published by Safecast is open and available under CC0 dedication.
•Currently designing networkable sensor devices for production in 2012.
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I think this situation is very serious, but we all need a bit of a laugh.
This cartoon says it all!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XFNBFosF3Rg/TwsfCcNdgmI/AAAAAAAAEwc/hbrhvM7RDBE/s400/Go%2BBack%2BWe%2BFucked%2BEverything%2BUp.jpeg
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LOL, how true….
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OT sort of…
I noticed that today has been a day of truths.
These headlines here, are all confirming what enenews and the posters here have been saying all along.
It is time to start evacuating the most vulnerable away from the reported hotspots in the least. Maybe even Tokyo.
There has not been one “nuclear proponent” (codewords) here this weekend.
The truth about this matter does have teeth and is putting the fear of obsolesence into the hearts of these nuclear liars and thieves.
This is good that they have the same fear as the people of Japan have about being irradiated.
I wish to remind the Nuclear Industry that fear and unhappiness is the biggest killer and to overcome your fear of going into history as a failure and a fluke, you must keep a smile on your face….
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Oh..yes…keep that smiling up..grin fron ear to ear…
….it’s a sign of insolence when they meet their Maker…
I wonder if they realize they will soon be up against millions of people with nothing left to lose.
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Hi Jebus,
Funny, I noticed there haven’t been the usual nuke defense posts here, too, this weekend. Glad you commented on that first & also observed it. Interesting.
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Hilarious!!!!! you know, in a way…
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I think you are right. Everytime there’s an admission of any kind a significant negative aspect seems to follow. That and admitting deeper problems after the fact seems like standard operating procedure.
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“Usually fatal radiation poisoning. Survival occasionally possible with prompt treatment. 4Sv”
One source (easy to access): http://xkcd.com/radiation/
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That would be total dose. This is a dose rate (dose/unit of time). Spending a minute or three won’t kill you at all, but it will probably damage your health.
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You’re right, zaadik. Sorry about the error.
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Not to get off subject, but I was checking radnet ata for Phoenix back in Dec and I
Couldn’t help but notice some really high gross beta counts, I mean cpms pegging
in at around 850 to 950. What’s up with Phoenix?
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Ohio Boy
West coast, valley cities with mountains on the east get radiation trapped with all the particles that end up accumulating in trapped valley air.
Bakersfield highest! Sacramento was high before they stopped reporting beta accurately
Fresno CA was high. Yuma was high.
Phoenix was high.
I think I’m feeling the effects now but I cannot be certain yet. Hair loss, nails breaking off for me, everyone around me exhausted.
Lots of kids getting sick to their stomach without ever symptoms of flu
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Majia, what is your general geographic location? Am curious to know where people are who are beginning to feel health effects from the radiation. So far can only surmise it’s people on the West Coast of the U.S.
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I believe Majia is in Phoenix.
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Other parts of Arizona also high. The gamma looks relatively high, too. Just had a look at the RadNet data for all the cities and LOTS of them have had high beta. Never took a really good look at that before ….
What seems really odd is looking at which stations have no beta data at all, or there’s a spike and then the levels mysteriously drop back down to zero, or near zero. Or the gamma signatures where there’s an up and down zig-zag pattern, then it just flatlines or trends along in a straight line. Maybe the stations are offline sometimes and that’s how the data is interpreted? Don’t know but it sometimes looks suspicious.
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HoTaters,….they cut off Sacramento’s readings, not too long ago. It did the same thing you just described,…spike, drop,(artificial),..then a low to nothing line. I think it was Bobby1 who pointed out last night, that Sac’s was cut off. That was my conclusion also,…still I love hearing someone I respect, validate these things, Yes?
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Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,….did I just hear myself right? All, “Ho-Hum”. “They CUT-OFF Sacramento’s radiation monitoring”!
After a spike????? And, this is O.K. with me HOW?????
I choose TODAY, to call down God’s wrath! Please join me in asking our Heavenly Father to intervene on His children’s behalf. Surely WE NEED HIM. Surely HE’LL answer the cries of His children! In Jesus’s Dear Name, I pray. Amen and AMEN.
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JetStream with Japan’s radiation is over Sacramento today. Thats what happened to the monitor. HIDE IT!. What is the guidence Mr. Obama has given to his trolls? HIDE HIDE HIDE results for the unwashed masses? Its tax dollars meant to protect the citizens of the USA..not for political use!
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I wish to remind the Nuclear Industry that fear and unhappiness is the biggest killer and to overcome your fear of going into history as a failure and a fluke, you must keep a smile on your face….
Well said Jebus.
Betcha their mama’s didn’t raise em that way.
Unfortunately these people come from all walks of life & they don’t wear tattoos on their foreheads so that Everyone would know who they are.
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/01/1200-bq-kg-strontium-90-measured-south-side-intake-reactor-1-4/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+Diary%29
Tepco announced they measured 1200 Bq/ Kg of Strontium 90 from the sea ground soil at the south side of the intake of reactor 1~4 on 1/12/2012. They also measured 15~620 Bq/ Kg of Strontium at 3 different locations.
The samples were taken from 11/24/2011 ~ 11/25/2011. Before 311, the maximum reading was 0.17 Bq/ Kg, which is less than 1/7000 of after 311.
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Needed to listen to this again today.
“To those who can hear me I say “Do not despair”.
“The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress: the hate of men will pass and dictators die and the power they took from the people, will return to the people and so long as men die [now] liberty will never perish…”
The Greatest Speech Ever Made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibmcsEGLKo
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Note, on the link above if you click on See more below the video, it is available in over 20 languages.
Here you can copy & pate the words into a Word document to print & share.
http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2011/09/15/this-really-might-be-the-greatest-speech-ever-made/
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The web cam forum is shot right now, can anyone explain why they had one of those water cannon things erected over #4 spf just a few minutes ago?
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COOLING ?
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Still there, yes? Right over the middle. BIG one.
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I see that it is off to the left side of the SFP. Cement?
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Its gone now. Was right in the middle of the foreground of unit 4. Appeared to be refilling the spf if you ask me. But it isnt there anymore. Who knows.
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Reactor 4 Crane was there..or was a water cannon..but weird it was there ..then gone..then there again. Either there is a way the crane can go behind a “curtain” and disappear…or magic.
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That thing was huge; reached right over the building. I am nonplussed to see it gone so quickly.
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risabee,
I watched it move around a bit, poking into the reactor to the left or west of the SFP. It pulled out and swung around to the east of the reactor before swinging back, poking into the reactor again. Then it folded itself up, down in front of #4…
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Nuks got the vid in the webcam thread.
It is a very long articulated crane picking out debris and God knows what else.
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I heard a rumor that Building #4 was complaining to the hotel staff that it had gotten a chia seed stuck in its teeth and needed some help to get it out..
The crane was sent in to take the seed out.
With ZERO information about what is REALLY going on inside of the FUKU Daichi plant, this story is just as good as any other…
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Well in the Chernobyl plant the radiation was 0.1 to 300SV, the really high doses were inside, on top and where debris fell. 3.75SV is high for the distance the helicopters were at and how quickly they passed. However the radiation wasn’t released the way Chernobyl was. In Chernobyl not a lot of the reactor was actually released into the air. But it had a nuclear explosion and radioactive parts were all over the place. In Fukushima none or a little amount of radioactive parts were released. But there was a lot of radioactive water and steam released and it was being released from 4 or 6 locations not one.
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The dose rate is not dependent on time. The dose is equal to the dose rate (Sv or milli-Sv) multiplied by the time.
In fact I have performed calculations based on simple engineering and government released figures that shows that tens of tons of uranium and plutonium were launched into the atmosphere. Here, check it out.
http://nukepimp.blogspot.com/2012/01/uranium-in-air.html
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Oh Yeah???? How about that HUNK of plutonium they found nearly 2 miles away up on a hillside? Not much? Good,….too bad it doesn’t take much!
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