NHK News Flash: Meltdown at Fukushima worse than thought — Most of nuclear fuel ‘melted through’ Reactor 3 and “continued down to bottom of outer containment vessel” — “Has changed their understanding of what’s happening inside” (VIDEO)

Published: August 6th, 2014 at 8:45 am ET


Yomiuri Shimbun, Aug 06, 2014: In its latest findings, TEPCO also said that most of the nuclear fuel in the No. 3 reactor at the plant in Fukushima Prefecture melted through the pressure vessel and continued down to the bottom of the outer containment vessel. The finding may make it even more difficult to decommission the plant. […] a record made by a worker […] suggests it is possible that the coolant apparatus had already ceased functioning nearly seven hours before TEPCO stopped the coolant-injection device. […] A new analysis of conditions inside the reactor, made on the basis of the uncovered record, led to the latest finding that the temperature in the reactor core reached the fuel’s melting point of 2,200 C at around 5:30 a.m. on [March 13]. […] the amount of melted nuclear fuel that passed into the containment vessel through the pressure vessel is considered to have been greater, making it technically more difficult to extract the melted fuel and dispose of it.

NHK Transcript, Aug. 6, 2014: [TEPCO has] learned some of their challenges may be more difficult than they thought. They’re looking into unresolved problems at the nuclear plant. What they found has changed their understanding of what’s happening inside.

NHK, Aug. 6, 2014: Meltdown at Fukushima reactor 3 worse than thought –The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant says the damage to nuclear fuel in one of its reactors may be worse than previously thought. […] Officials with the utility now say most of the nuclear fuel in the No. 3 reactor melted through the reactor core […] They had previously said some of the fuel was still inside the reactor […] It says most of the fuel melted through the reactor core and had dropped into the containment vessel by the following morning.

Kyodo News, Aug. 6, 2014: Fukushima No. 3 reactor meltdown worse than previously believed: TEPCO — Fuel inside the No.3 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant began melting earlier than thought, and more fuel than previously estimated fell into the outer primary container after the cooling function failed […] [TEPCO] initially estimated that around 60 percent of the fuel melted through the base of the pressure vessel and dropped into the outer primary containment vessel. But a company official told a press conference now most of the fuel “is believed to have dropped,” and the utility is still studying ways to remove it.

Watch the NHK broadcast here

Published: August 6th, 2014 at 8:45 am ET


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112 comments to NHK News Flash: Meltdown at Fukushima worse than thought — Most of nuclear fuel ‘melted through’ Reactor 3 and “continued down to bottom of outer containment vessel” — “Has changed their understanding of what’s happening inside” (VIDEO)

  • Proton

    Sorry, but this is where most of the fuel went

      • mt1000

        That's a great link!
        By now, whatever part of the story TEPCO wants to lie about we all have 10 times more info on what really happened at our fingertips!

        Another P.R. FAIL by TEPCO.

      • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

        Heads up everyone.
        With respect to the agreenroad link

        Event Peak Radiation Reading In Bq/m³

        2,400 Nuclear weapons testing peak – 100 Bq/m³
        Chernobyl caused a peak reading of – 1,000 Bq/m³
        Fukushima caused a peak reading of – 180,000,000 Bq/m³


        Chernobyl was around ten times worse than 2,400 nuclear bombs going off.

        Fukushima was around 180,000 times worse than 2,400 nuclear bombs going off.

        The math got goofed.
        It should read:
        Fukushima was around 1,800,000 times worse than 2,400 nuclear bombs going off.

        Yes, the corrected math result is that Fukushima was around 1.8 MILLION times worse than 2,400 nuclear bombs going off.

        • Arizonan Arizonan

          Here's another set of estimates, in petabecquerels released by various events, cobbled largely from, and one of Busby's online papers quoting UNSCEAR estimates of total fallout from nuke tests (1945-1963). The Fukushima figure is supposed to reflect worst-case loss of full inventory, which I believe we have going on in Japan. The nuke tests figure reflects all nations involved 1945-1963, as well as those atmospheric tests conducted esp. by France and China, in the period since the test ban treaty was signed by most of the nuclear weapons nations (1963).
          1. 1957 Mayak 700 PBq
          2. 1959 Santa Susana 70 PBq
          3. 1979 Three Mile Island 0.15 PBq
          4. 1986 Chernobyl 520 PBq
          5. 2011 Fukushima 1200 PBq
          6. All Nuclear Weapons Tests 2566 PBq (Far worse than Fuku. and Chern. combined).
          (A peta- is a quadrillion, 15 zeros, or one-thousand billion. A becquerel is one radioactive disintegration per second. All figures above are comparable because in Cs137.)

    • dosdos dosdos

      And they are still calling it a hydrogen explosion.

    • gottagetoffthegrid

      both could have happened:

      the core melted through at 0530h, reconfigured at the bottom of the CV into a supercritical blob and then at 1233h blew the top off the CV, which took the roof with it.

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        Yes, it seems likely that both happened. I have been reading almost all the data on enenews every day since March 2011, and it looks to me that the evidence suggests that the #3 core went both up and down, with some explosion in the spent fuel pool thrown in for good measure. That's a lot of plutonium239 in our environment for 25,000 years (half-life) X 20 = amount of time actually remains radioactive before full amount decays into a stable state = 500,000 years. Multiply any half-life figure by 20 to get an idea of how long it takes before the full amount of that substance is gone. Plutonium 239 decays into both U238 and a helium atom, which is released with 5 million electron volts worth of energy….nuclear weapons designers are leery of the instability of plutonium because it decays into helium, causing little bubbles to form in the weapon's main core. It must I think also be causing a lot of helium atoms to form in the ocean. The chemistry of plutonium is extremely complex, and it has tons of different reactions in water, near metal, etc. etc. that I don't even begin to understand. I understand that it kills, and it's release into our environment, by sea or air, on this scale, is an unimaginable horror for humanity and all living creatures, especially those in the Pacific. It's gonna be with us for a long, long, long time….. (

    • TY Photon. ELE was what I thought when I saw that footage the next day 3 15 11…

      The results look like it was indeed a beginning of a certain end…

      I have added a few new items to both info sites that are in support of my U dust to fission in the AIR uncontained, Xe137~>Cesium137~>Barium137m~>Barium137 in the close proximity to neutron lightning is in fact happening. Also the Strontium90's are mixed in with Yttrium's on the reverse side of this ridiculously brilliant and most certainly WELL circulated coin. So yet one more contribution to atmospheric Barium and Strontium crystals, adding further disruption/scattering of the ever important full solar continuum spectra. Nuclear Summer, followed by Nuclear Fall in 2016. Nuclear Winter begins March 11th 2041.

  • name999 name999

    ~Worse Than Previously Believed~

  • Sickputer

    And they dribble this info out near 41 months after 38 million central Japan humans should have permanently relocated?

    Definitely avoided an exodus. Avoiding panic was a major goal?

    Well, certainly they did save lives from panic casualties. So there's the tradeoff. Keep millions in harm's way permanently, avoid financial meltdowns, and prevent short term relocation injuries and deaths. Get the picture? A win win for government and economics.

    Now about those lingering radioisotopes in the bone marrow, lungs, and heart tissue… Just collateral damage. Survival of the fittest. Mutants of the world inherit the nasty nuclear-contaminated ecosystem.

    Doomsday already came in Japan…March 11, 2011. A day that will live in infamy.

    Coming soon to a nuclear plant near you…

  • Jebus Jebus

    news flash…

    meltdown, explosion, meltdown, explosion, meltdown, nuclear fires.


    news flash, lol… sigh…

  • Fukushima Reactors #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6

    Think ocean currents, buckyballs & jet screams.

    Man-made radiation is most harmful to children and women

    And, of course, all other living things.
    Do your part People. Get your printer and the rad word out

    Children women and all other living things thank you.

  • We Not They Finally

    Mystery solved. The one they didn't know about was apparently reactor no. 3 [sarc]

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      The mystery which most of us solved right after Reactor 3 exploded. I will never forget the look on my spouses face as we watched this unreal disaster unfold. He knew right away how dire this event was and continues to unleash it's wrath. I think both of us continue to suffer from PTSD as we watch our children become adults and hope miracles truly do exist.

      • moonshellblue moonshellblue

        Actually my spouse, who happens to be a chemist, knew the moment Reactor one suffered a hydrogen explosion while I kept hoping he was wrong. What was amazing was the lack of understanding from his colleagues but perhaps their in that great river of denial.

      • We Not They Finally

        Three days PRIOR TO the 3-11 event, my husband kept repeating (seemingly from out of nowhere,) "Something terrible is about to happen. It's the beginning of the end." So when it happened, there was instant recognition, but that didn't lessen the shock value. And it never gets less surreal because it is also like PTSD for the future, not just the past.

        We do believe that miracles are possible — we've seen them for individuals — we just can't seem to project that for the world as a whole. I think that you were the poster (hope I don't have you confused with someone else) who contracted MS some years after TMI? If you do look for extraordinary help, check out Braco, or Braco-europe. Don't want to go OT — just a heads-up that there is more help out there than people know. We've seen living proof. Good luck.

  • Sickputer

    Morpheus: The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
    [Neo's eyes suddenly wander towards a woman in a red dress]
    Morpheus: Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?
    Neo: I was…
    Morpheus: [gestures with one hand] Look again.
    [the woman in the red dress is now Agent Smith, pointing a gun at Neo's head; Neo ducks]
    Morpheus: Freeze it.
    [Everybody and everything besides Neo and Morpheus freezes in time]
    Neo: This… this isn't the Matrix?
    Morpheus: No. It is another training program designed to teach you one thing: if you are not one of us, you are one of them.

    In other news…March 13, 2011:

    Edano: "…the reactor did not explode.."

    SP: But the Neos knew it did…


    Liar, Liar, reactor on fire.

    See what happens when you cover up your sin; Pluto worshipers. Christ TEPCO can't save you now.

    News Flash atomic nuclear power is defeated.

  • Sickputer

    "…former nuclear power plant designer said Japan is ­facing an extremely grave crisis and accused Tokyo of suppressing information."

    —Enenews March 13, 2011

    More…"Masashi Goto said one reactor at the Fukushima-Daiichi plant was “highly unstable” and warned that if there was a meltdown the “consequences would be tremendous”."

    SP: To their discredit, the US mass media had lots of coverage of Fukushima for about 5 days…then they suddenly turned off the outside experts who displeased their military-industrial masters.

    • One person wrote in and said they could not handle the truth, it was too upsetting, so the 1% in control of the mass media shut off all coverage all around the world; Fukushima.

      Just trying to help that one person, so they can stay asleep for a few more million years..

  • harv33021

    About a month ago there were reports that the cooling system at #5 was leaking and had to be shut down. According to the report they had about 10 days to fix the problem or there could be another melt down. What happened? My guess: No news means melt down in progress,
    like #3, another China syndrome.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    PattieB said:
    "One of the men who worked on the tracking of the coriums in the ground… before he quit in frustration over the mess, said publicly that #3's was down over 4km into the earth as of April 2012."

    At 5,000 degrees C, molten Plutonium corium makes quick work of anything that gets in its way.
    The heating does not magically stop at the 2,200C mark. Water does not cool fissioning corium. It merely flashes into steam at the corium's crusted edges. (Nor was there even much water around the corium during the melt-out.

    There were calls early on to install a frozen hotizontal barrier underneath Reactors1-3 to stop the downward migration of the corium. But the moment for action quickly passed.

    Where, oh where has our little corium gone?
    Where, oh where can it be? 😉

    • Socrates

      #3 would quickly reach temperatures of 5,000 degrees C. Water would not cool the core. It would just turn to vapor. The core of #3 went upward into atmosphere perhaps when the big bang happened.

      Following 3-11, several nuclear engineers blogged about what to do on a daily basis. They were so busy being in denial that they couldn't see the coriums for the rods. The god they made failed them. Reminds one of Easter Island…. just one more stone god – before tearing them all down and defacing the eyes.

      Nuclear engineers need to locate where their heads are at, and use one of those cranes to extract their heads. Only then can they see reality. Acceptance is all that is left. Maybe there is a solution; it will be ineffective at this point, expensive, and too late.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture


    Air was full of radiation .. you could feel it and taste it.

  • Kashiko Kashiko

    Like they didn't know this 3 years ago. If they pull it any harder, it'll come of in their hand.

  • MT

    Dear Tepco , if you would have a checked enenews every now and then , you could have known it a long time ago ,, just saying 😉

  • VyseLegendaire VyseLegendaire

    "Meltdown at Fukushima reactor 3 worse than thought"

    "Meltdown at Fukushima reactor 3 worse than told"


  • Socrates

    Engineers have never stopped lava flows. It isn't over until the 800-pound gorilla says it's over. Godzilla will get the last laugh on them. Giant ants -"Them" – tunnel underground. I save my bottle top s as a kid and saw all those movies about nuclear disasters. At the same time, the geniuses were doing above-ground testing a few hundred miles south of where I lived. The doctors were still using pre-natal pelvic x-rays to diagnose potential feto-pelvic disproportion. At Kinneys shoes, you could x-ray your own feet. Soldiers were ordered to charge ground zero with fixed bayonets in drills, ignoring the radiation.

    Civilians were assured that radiation was harmless. They were encouraged to bring their families to witness the mushrooms. Many did. Broken coke bottle bottoms were used to shield the eyes against the blinding blast effect. Then the duck and cover drills at elementary schools for children.

    Meanwhile, it was well-known to the medical community that radiation caused cancer and mutations. The government only cares about military objectives and Wall Street profits. Ike Eisenhower pointed this out. He knew. Obama knows. The nuclear priesthood cares about as much as oil companies or frackers. There will take any risk for profit because they can externalize the true costs while making profits.

    • GQR2

      Yeah! +311 Good to see you Soc.

      • Socrates

        Still trying to survive the stupidity of radiation being released on human populations. They add other chemicals to the mix to catalyze the ionization. It's called "business." Fat cats die of cancer, too. Their children get mutations and cancer. It is still worth it to them to make short-term profits. That's what America is all about. They worship the short-term profit. The rest of the world is their garbage can; the oceans are dumpsters. Most other countries are the same. Capitalism with no guilt. No conscience. Sociopathic.

        • itsanuclearwar

          I would say that Americas leaders have turned America into a garbage can as much as they have to the rest of the world. They don't discriminate in this regard. These American leaders are not really Americans though, as they have no allegiance to any country nor it's people. American people are despised more because being armed to the teeth, we are their biggest obstacle to their new world order. Enter GMO food, Fuku, WIPP, fluoride and it never ends. What they are working on is implementing Codex, where they will ban all the nutrients, minerals, and vitamins that we need to survive. Home gardening will be outlawed. Fracking serves them well in this regard.

          They leave no stone unturned. The president can now declare a national heath emergency and force by law a mandatory vaccination on every citizen, or prison for those that don't comply. This is just around the corner as they work non stop trying to invent the right virus. Who knows, maybe they have the virus already, they just haven't worked out all that will be contained in the vaccine. For instance, tracking devices to go with the poison? Probably more sinister than that and having to do with DNA Markers or something along those lines to give them absolute control over our minds and bodies. They are working on that right now, and have been for many many years.

          • We Not They Finally

            Yes, it's the possible diversions and distractions, including the possibility of new viruses, that is very scary. Vaccines alone — don't touch them if possible.

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      Great Rant, Socrates! 🙂

      Many thanks to all ENEnewsers for all the great posts, lofty emotions, and for the depth of your research!
      Tipping point.
      Feel it?
      TIP IT! 😉

      Produce the corium, TEPCO.
      Find it!
      If you look inside the reactor buildings, you aren't going to find much corium.
      It isn't where you thought it was, is it?

  • weeman

    It will take another three years for tepco to admit that the corium has left the building and that will be a worse senereio or the majority of the nuclear fuel has been vapiourized and is in the environment.
    This is not the worse senereio, not good but could be worse.

    • Socrates

      Time-release information is used to keep the frogs in the water in the pan until full boil; otherwise, the frogs feel the heat and jump out. That would "hurt" the economy. If Japan is selling nuclear technology abroad, it would be bad PR to admit that there are any dangers associated with their nuclear products and services. It is better to throw their own children under the bus than to lose money. They cannot have it both ways… many trillions of dollars are at stake. Then there is the rising perception of the need to remilitarize against the perceived threat of China.

      We know which path the leaders will take already; have the Olympics, deny the dangers, endure the cancers, restart the reactors, remilitarize, install nuclear fascism of the press…make a deal with the US. Bring in the UK.

      • earthsmith earthsmith

        Optimism is good for the soul.
        Reality will take it's toll
        Scientist will continue to stroke the pole
        Governments will drive it down the hole
        The masses will assume the role
        Few will be able to remain in control

        Not trying to be rude but 2020 is laughable….not going to happen,not going to make it….3 years…HA!

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Yes, a very sick reality that none of us have any control over.. 🙁

      • itsanuclearwar

        Maybe they are worried that if too many frogs jumped out that it would cause an awakening of the kind that would burn their house of cards down. They are worried about their necks being separated from their bodies. Everything they do is a gamble in this regard, that is why they keep the fire turned down low on the frogs.

        For those that want to know the truth, here is your wake up call. This video is excellent.

        The Calling By Max Igan *Full Length*

  • gwenchie

    How I wish everything will get fine here in japan. We lived here in Chiba, people are unaware of what is happening or maybe people are in denial. In his time I know I can save my children and family from this mess. If only I can do magic to flew my family away I will do it, but I can't. We live everyday in radiation, my very problem is I cannot read nor speak japanese, I cannot read the label of the food that we eat where it came from, my kids drink bottled water but the water that I used is tap water for cooking, me and my husband drink water directly from the faucet, it will cost us a lot if all of us drink bottled water. Are we still safe? Mycoplasma pneumonia is what we have since early month of last year.

    • hi gwencie. go here to find remediation remedies for families

      Lots of easy stuff there. Research baking soda facial steams for immediate lung relief. There is information there too about Reverse Osmosis water filtering and possible safest foods to eat. My heart goes out to you and yours and all in Japan (across the planet etc) who do not or refuse to know Fukushima.

      You are very close to ground zero. Maybe find the anti-nukesters in the area and learn a little reading of Japanese 🙂

      Save your pennies to move. Aloha to you.

      • itsanuclearwar

        Reverse Osmosis water is much better and much cheaper than bottled water here in the US. It gets some of the radiation out, so I'm lead to believe.

      • gwenchie

        Many thanks to both of you, we are just taking vitamin c believing that it will help. Will try alternative remedies for us to be safe. Saving money is the least that I can do so we can leave Japan right away.

        • We Not They Finally

          If you have access to lecithin granules, make LIPOSOMAL vitamin C. Three tablespoons non-GMO lecithin to one tablespoon non-buffered vitamin C powder in a pint of water. Blend, but also put through an ultrasonic cleaner for better blending, if you can get one from a hardware store. It will up the absorption of vitamin C from just 20% to 80-90%. The lecithin lets the C permeate the (fat-coated) cells. Liposomal C is one of the best not-expensive remedies. Also, baking soda (1/4 tsp in a cup of water a few times a day) keeps the system alkaline, which is also a basic cheap buffer against cancer. Good luck. So sorry you are trapped in that locale and hope you will be able to leave.

          • gwenchie

            Thanks, I don't think I can get the lecithin here, very difficult for me to communicate. I will try using the baking soda, is it safe for the kids to take it, 9 and 11 yrs old, how about the mixture , is it the same for them.

    • Sickputer

      Gwenchie typed these pixels of light ("are we still safe?") from Chiba Prefecture. Number 12 on map, Fukushima is 7 (about 130 miles away):

      Below is part of an article from 18 months ago now purged from NHK… But Enenews has a small blurb:

      "NHK WORLD, Feb. 18, 2013: High levels of cesium detected in fish off Chiba […] Choshi is nearly 200 kilometers south of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. Chiba Prefecture says it found 130 becquerels of cesium per kilogram in Japanese sea bass caught about 10 kilometers off Choshi on Thursday of last week. The acceptable limit is 100 becquerels. It is the first time that higher-than-permitted levels of radioactive substances have been found in fish landed at ports in the prefecture…"

      SP: Bioaccumulation is your enemy. Relocate as soon as possible. Far, far to the southwest.
      The Pacific Ocean on Japan's east coast is becoming a very toxic coastline.

    • alasanon

      oh no.. My friend from Russia grew up during Chernobyl (major nuclear meltdown of one reactor there).. She told me that her mother would never let her eat potentially contaminated food or drink either!…Sadly, her mother passed away in her 40s (cancer) and the life span is short there.. BUT, this young woman has become such a successful, pretty, extremely sweet and brilliant young lady–very impressive to have met her where she lives now in Europe. Plus, her mother's dedication has been a great inspiration that she kept foremost in mind.
      She also quickly urged me to take care in the States after the Fukushima explosions and to protect my thyroid…
      It seems like many Russian families went through similar experiences to yours, but it did pay off for the children.
      Best of all to evacuate & filter however possible! Best wishes~

      • alasanon

        …The other thing my friend from Russia told me is that her life was always about Labels, Labels, Labels on EVERY food item. Even though she lives in Europe now, her mother made her watch labels so closely that she still reads them carefully today…

        • gwenchie

          As much as I can I am trying to be strict on the food that my kids eat, but the problem is during school days they eat in school and I do not know where the ingredients of their foods came from. Japan have an advertisement of supporting Fukushima farmer, to buy and eat their harvest, even the tv personality are endorsing it. People here are in denial, still believe in the government that everything will be fine. They don't want to talk about it especially to gaijin.

  • Tepco. Tepco. Tepco.

    Tepco ‘Whack-a-Mole’ Means Government Takeover in Fukushima

    Japan’s government will lead “emergency measures” to tackle radioactive water spills at the wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant, wresting control of the disaster recovery from the plant’s heavily criticized operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501)

    “We’ve allowed Tokyo Electric to deal with the contaminated water situation on its own and they’ve essentially turned it into a game of ‘Whack-a-Mole,’” Trade Minister Toshimitsu Motegi told reporters last night in Fukushima. “From now on, the government will move to the forefront.”

    This is about Tepco=patsy.

    Any news on anything exactly THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT is ACTUALLY DOING about Fukushima? Besides secrecy laws and navel gazing.

    • itsanuclearwar

      Not the first time they have said that. "Here comes the new boss, same as the old boss."

      • combomelt combomelt


        I like this new ode to The "World Boss" better….

        the whole album rocks! SHOUT!

        • combomelt combomelt

          Rich man shaking in his shoes
          Poor man drowning in his blues
          Lovely ladies take their place in line
          People on the street yelling "it's time, it's time"

          World boss is coming
          World boss is coming

          Business man sold everything he owns
          Junkie's pretending he ain't never jonesed
          Politician sneaking through the crowd
          Super savior soldier cries out loud
          "everybody have you heard the news?"

          World boss is coming
          World boss is coming

          "Everybody have you heard the news?"…….

          THE ENENEWS!?

        • itsanuclearwar

          Probably should get out more, never heard of them. Hell of a good song there, thanks combomelt!

    • Sickputer

      That Bloomberg report was August 2013…about 10 days before Tokyo "won" the 2020 Olympic bid.

      Won it by PM Abe lying about the water situation in the Fukushima lagoon.

      Excerpt: "Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe says radioactive water flowing into the sea from the crippled Fukushima atomic station is being contained within the plant’s harbor, a view maintained by operator Tokyo Electric Power Co.

      Marine scientists, Fukushima residents and Japan’s general public don’t agree. What’s more, the harbor is designed to take advantage of tidal flushing, which pushes warmer water out to sea after it has circulated through reactor cooling systems.

      Abe repeated that the radiation is contained in the harbor on Oct. 16 in a parliamentary response to questions from the opposition Democratic Party of Japan. This debate has dogged him since his Sept. 7 speech to the International Olympic Committee, when he said the nuclear disaster is “under control.” The next day, Tokyo won hosting rights for the 2020 Summer Olympic Games"

      SP: DIET and TEPCO are cojoined at the hip….radioactive Siamese twins.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Many ENEnewsers began soon after 3/11/2011 to call for action to divert groundwater away from the reactor buildings.
    Japan's inaction in this regard will go down, in such human history as may survive this catastrophy, as the single worst choice human beings ever made.
    And the history of the human race up until 311 ain't been nothing to be proud of, believe you me! 😉

    My own favorite method to divert groundwater is a 100' deep wall of interlocking sheet steel pilings, driven into the less permeable mudrock layer that forms the bottom limit of the aquifer under the FDNPP.
    They even started on this wall, which they called the "Impermeable Wall".
    The wall must be an enclosure built completely around Reactors1-4.

    ENEnewser 21stCentury advocates that the underground wall should be built in a circle enclosing the tank farm, all 6 of the reactors, and the harbor. With a dome on top and filtration to contain radioactive gasses. Great plan!

    If PattieB is right, the corium from Reactors1,2,&3 is, by this time, many miles deep, and probably beyond human mitigation.
    However, there is a lot of fancy stuff the frackers can do these days with their drilling rigs, which might come nicely into play here, as humanity begins its centuries-long struggle with the Fukushima nightmare.

    I'd still like to see some attempt made to stop the flow of groundwater under Reactors1-4.

    Having TEPCO, Japan, and the MSM clueless about the whereabouts of 3 missing nuclear cores…

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      The current plan to divert groundwater around Reactors1-4 is the underground Frozen Wall.
      The Frozen Wall will do nothing but enrich the contractors.
      The Frozen Wall Project will fail because of two reasons:
      1. Groundwater flows underneath FDNPP at a rate of 1,000 tonnes per day. The completed Frozen Wall plumbing will do little but cool the groundwater on its way by.
      2. Any corium, nuclear fuel debris, that the flowing groundwater encounters will heat up the flowing groundwater, keeping the water too warm to freeze.

      The 3 corium lava tubes, made as the corium from Reactors1-3 cut their way through the mudrock, are likely to be filled with groundwater, heated by the corium miles below.
      So, no.
      The "Frozen Wall" will not become "frozen", nor will it ever become a "wall".
      So for at least the next 5 years or so, Japan will fool around with their pipes and pumps, accomplishing nothing at all.
      While the groundwater flows on under the feet of the workers, and into the Pacific Ocean. 😉

      And oh, by the way, the Pacific Ocean Ecosystem is now in a state of collapse, from the direct contact of groundwater flowing past 3 melted cores and into the ocean. That damage has already been done, as we are now beginning to see.

    • Shaker1

      "I'd still like to see some attempt made to stop the flow of groundwater under Reactors1-4."

      Phillip, might I ammend your statement to read 'every' attempt?
      I'll admit that some are better than others, but it's quite apparent not enough of an attempt has been made on very many fronts.

  • "Meltdown at Fukushima reactor 3 worse than thought –"
    – NHK

    "Fukushima No. 3 reactor meltdown worse than previously believed: "
    – Kyodo

    😉 How about…

    …worse than we ever wanted you to know –
    …worse than, there is no real plan –
    …worse than we can imagine –

  • bf9 bf9

    Too late for a solution. What happens when everyone's too sick to watch the other 400 reactors and every other nuclear facility?

    If we don't run out of oxygen first.

    Life on earth as we know it will be taking a break for a few million years, gone fission.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    How tepco Lost Funuskima Reactor 3
    8 p.m., March 12, 2011. Worker notes emergency high-pressure coolant injection system had ceased to function.
    3 a.m., March 13, 2011. Manually stoped emergency high-pressure coolant injection system, but alternate water injection system also fails due to lack of power.
    5:30 a.m., March 13, 2011. Reactor core reaches 2,200 C, rapidly melting the fuel.
    9:25 a.m., March 13, 2011. TEPCO began injecting water into the No. 3 reactor, with a fire truck pump.
    11:01 a.m., March 13, 2011. Reactor Building 3 explodes in a mushroom cloud.

    This is new information, 'Newsers, which comes from a worker's notes. The core melted down a lot sooner, and the melt-through of the Reactor Vessel happened much earlier, than has been previously thought (by TEPCO).
    What is NOT being said here could fill volumes.
    Let's fill some of the gaps:

    9 a.m., March 13, 2011. Temperature of corium reaches 5,000 C from runaway fission within molten corium.
    10 a.m., March 13, 2011. Corium breaches Containment vessel, falling onto floor of base mat.
    10:15 a.m., March 13, 2011. Corium breaches base mat, and burns into fill and mudrock.
    11 a.m., March 13, 2011. Corium reaches groundwater.

    Then what happened?

    • itsanuclearwar

      Tepco knew about the meltdowns as they happened. So did every nuclear engineer in the world, like Arnie Gunderson(who waited to make the claim until TEPCO acknowledged the fact). Leuren Moret called it way back then, its just she never sold out.

      Do you actually believe that TEPCO did not know what was going on. Simple laws of physics apply and are nothing new. If you don't provide cooling water to the reactor cores, in a specified period of time they will meltdown, and they did meltdown as the laws of physics applied. Nothing new and its not rocket science. You put a pot of water on your stove, turn the heat all the way up, and the water boils, golly gee. Do you think for a minute that TEPCO and their engineers did not know any of this?

  • Cooter

    To all of you who commented to the EPA in regards to upgrading the 1977 risk/dose criterion there is victory.

    From the article:
    "EPA's 40 CFR 190 was promulgated in 1977 to limit radiation releases and doses to the public from nuclear power plants and uranium fuel-cycle facilities."

    "The US Environmental Protection Agency's 1977 radiation protection standards for nuclear power operations adequately protect public health and do not need to be updated, the Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) has said."

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      Great report, Cooter!
      No higher radiation release limits allowed for the nuclear industry, at least for now!

      bf9. "Gone fission!" Love it!

      Too late?
      It is never too late.
      Always keep on keepin' on!
      Make whatever effort you can make, while you can make it.
      We can still make effort.

      It will take 3 generations for the full effects of Fukushima radiation to be felt on the human race.
      Damn humanity if we fail to make every effort that can be made, RIGHT NOW, while we can still make effort.
      Tipping point, boys and girls.
      It has come at last!
      Let's tip it good! 😉

    • Kinda sounds like a squeeze play to me. So basically EPA dipped it's toe into "Let's hear public comments regarding potentially RAISING the allowable limits.

      BUT commenters brought too much attention to the fact that EPA already IS a worthless agency pretending to set knowledgeable based on reality safety guidelines.

      So EPA can now sit on their decision to remain with what they set in 1977, quite happy that people will relax and be content and not bring up stuff like bio-accumulation….chronic long term low level exposure….ever again.

      Class over. (EPA to nuclear industries: Pssst get busy with getting those new NPP's up and running. We fulfilled our duty to ask for comments and "listen" to the public and bought you some more time.)

      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        EPA to nuclear industry:
        Please quit bringing us those suitcases full of cash.
        We'd so much prefer the number of an account in Switzerland or Grand Caymen Island on a sticky note.
        "Plausable denialability", you know.
        And with the heat from Fukushima and the public getting wise to our "arrangement", all of our prices just doubled.
        And those great jobs you tell us are waiting for us when we leave government service, can you that a corner office, please.
        And double my salary, if you please?

        • Hahaha! I've been asking people ever since GMO's came to our attention, "REALLY, you actually rely on alphabet agencies to tell you what's safe and what's not for you?"

          Self accountability is a must have virtue, more that ever these days.

          Look at your own health, the health of plants and animals. Let the paradigm shifts in thinking and believing happen.

    • Sickputer

      Thanks for the update Cooter. Anybody up for a more technical review comment at the NRC?

      Standard Review Plan for Review of Fuel Cycle Facility License Applications!docketDetail;D=NRC-2012-0220

    • itsanuclearwar

      That's all fine and dandy, but its only on paper. Nothing will change for the better. They will enforce nothing. They have enforced nothing to date. I think they are having "the last laugh".

  • NoFixedID

    'the fuel “is believed to have dropped,” and the utility is still studying ways to remove it'

    Such as? Do please share your plans for digging out the coriums from God knows where. It will make fascinating reading.

  • Sickputer

    You know Caroline…it's an Atomic Era cardinal rule of mine to use an umbrella in the rain ALL THE TIME even here in Texas. But you stand with your head uncovered in the Japanese rain…

    Yes Hiroshima is 523 miles from Fukushima NPP. But it's NOT FAR ENOUGH.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Aye, look what's happening in Canada.

    All dressed up in a visibly appealing package of studies.

    I only made it to the board of directors page.

    3.5 mil is chump change, but something had the CPTB concerned.

    Or, it's save our nuke ass brain trusting…

    It lists all the "projects"

    Here is the contamination research part.

    InFORM: International Fukushima Ocean Radionuclide Monitoring Network

    Too tired to dig further…

  • itsanuclearwar

    If down on his knees kneel and bob Kenny boy is involved I won't waste my time to read garbage in garbage out. The Fukuing Traitor!

  • jec jec

    Chernobyl melted down 9 FEET into the concete pad! 9 FEET..and it was likely a smaller reactor with less fuel than anyone of the four at Fukushima! And it did not have MOX like Reactor 3….

    By way of contrast, the famous Chernobyl "elephant's foot" corium formation – melted an estimated 9 feet into the concrete pad beneath the plant – represents a mere 2 metric tons of corium lava. Perhaps half that mass consisting of melted uranium/plutonium fuel. It stopped actively melting into the pad because it had incorporated enough concrete components and other metals to dilute the volume of fuel generating heat. There is, if the model is accurate [100% unit 1 core], 70 times as much concentrated fuel in the corium mass beneath Daiichi-1. It is unlikely to be diluted to standstill yet by concrete and incidental metals, and it is unlikely to be effectively cooled by showering water onto its presented surface (which occasionally causes flash fission)

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