NHK: ‘Particles’ impairing visibility in Fukushima pool — Will try to remove spent fuel Tuesday, said to be “one of most dangerous operations ever attempted in nuclear history” — Tepco concerned about sabotage, warns media about filming

Published: November 25th, 2013 at 11:31 am ET
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NHK, Nov. 25, 2013: [TEPCO] says it will begin removing highly radioactive spent nuclear fuel from one of its reactor buildings on Tuesday. [...] TEPCO says [...] sand and fine particles in the storage pool impaired visibility. The utility says it will use a pump to clear the pool of particles for the next round of transfers. [...] The spent fuel assemblies are highly radioactive so the operation will require extra caution. This will be the first removal of spent nuclear fuel [...]

Bangkok Post, Nov. 24, 2013: World community needed at Fukushima [...] Last week workers at Fukushima successfully removed the [unused] nuclear fuel rod assemblies from a cooling pool suspended high above ground at Reactor No 4 in what has been described as one of the most dangerous operations ever attempted in nuclear history. [...] Experts say that if the fuel rods come too close to each other during the operation there is a chance of a nuclear chain reaction that could spread to all the fissile material. [...]

TEPCO, Nov. 21, 2013: [...] we have noticed that some news media released videos, taken from the air, of the on-premise transportation from the Unit 4 Reactor Building to the Common Pool Building [...] Some of those videos contain information (such as the transportation schedule, a route of the transportation, and activities of security guards) the disclosure of which conflicts with “Measures To Be Taken for Physical Protection of Specific Nuclear Fuel Material” stipulated in the Nuclear Reactor Regulation Law. The regulatory agency is also aware of this matter, and instructed us to request the media to act with attention to physical protection. As we have already requested the media members on many occasions, in view of physical protection, please refrain from taking pictures and videos of the physical protection facilities such as the building entrances and exits, fences, sensors, and cameras as well as the cask transportation currently conducted. [*Physical protection: To protect nuclear materials and facilities against the theft or unauthorized diversion of nuclear materials and against the sabotage of nuclear facilities]

More: CNN: Tepco only wanted to show us Unit 4, strict rules about what we could film (VIDEO)

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43 comments to NHK: ‘Particles’ impairing visibility in Fukushima pool — Will try to remove spent fuel Tuesday, said to be “one of most dangerous operations ever attempted in nuclear history” — Tepco concerned about sabotage, warns media about filming

  • Nick

    Sabotage?

    The worst has already happened.

    You can pick-up nuclear hazardous waste all over Japan!

    Better watch where folks stash those decontaminated bags.

    Better keep tabs on those 100,000's of gallons of waste water in them tanks>

    Air filters? Man, think how hot some of them are.

    Fukushima is a raging nuclear horror. No terron in his right mind would think of adding to our misery.

    Good Luck Tepco with your honorable attempts at achieving the impossible.


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  • patb2009

    Sabotage, i am worried about incompetence.


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  • charlie3

    Sabotage? That's too rich. The saboteurs are of course TEPCO and the rest of the military/nuke industry.


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  • 富岡_Blue_Heron 富岡_Blue_Heron

    NHK – "TEPCO says there were no problems with the first round of transfer, but sand and fine particles in the storage pool impaired visibility. The utility says it will use a pump to clear the pool of particles for the next round of transfers."

    Are they referring to the CSFP where we saw the junk trailed by the rod bundle? Can this debris interfere with the cooling system? Might this be what caused the SP4 fire?


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  • ftlt

    Sabotage, yes, one possibility… While, a cover up is a greater one given the track record of this industry


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  • We Not They Finally

    They're "protecting nuclear materials against theft"? O.k., why don't they run an experiment? Take some of those "valuable" spent fuel rods that thieves must be so eager to get their hands on, and store them in a TEPCO official's home. Betcha no one comes to steal them. Just a hunch here. Betcha….


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      My God, they are worried about sabotage? After what they themselves have done? Are they worried that someone might sneak in and fix something / do something right?

      And as far as theft goes… how much does a fuel assembly with cask weigh? Cost as much in gas money as you could get at the local scrap yard… and that might raise a few eyebrows.

      Don't tell me they are worried about anti-nuke sabotage. What, like someone needs to damage Tepco's reputation or their plant? Hell-o-o! Maybe they are worried about someone damaging the environment. Not likely.

      And maybe they are worried about complying with the law? I am getting all tingly. Really?

      Sounds like a good excuse in case something goes wrong. CYA, pure and simple.

      All the sudden they are worried about protocol – Don't be filming anything. IF they want want you to see something they can arrange to have it fly through the roof of your house.


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  • From the NHK article; "The next round will involve 1,331 assemblies of spent fuel rods, or nearly 90 percent of the 1,511 assemblies in the pool at the Number 4 reactor building."

    I'm reading it as 10% are too damaged to be moved. I'm guessing that there was some damage when loss of coolant occurred. My feeling is Tepco knows some damaged fuel simply cant be moved. Does it need to be pointed out? They have always been secretive about operations. They want as little media involvement as possible. Security in being able to lie to the public with no media scrutiny. However for sure there are secret US observers imbedded in the operation. USA knows every detail regarding Fuku ops. Just don't tell the public for "security" reasons.


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  • SPF 4 removal will last over a year, not 2 weeks.

    The removal process could result in some criticalities, but these would likely be "small"

    "I am not sure what the preparations are that we should make"

    ANSWER===Make and double check your shelter in place boxes. If there are criticalities at Fuku 4, it will go airborne and 2 to 7 days later will pelt the mainland USA. And then last for less than a week. The practical solution is to Shelter in Place.

    Here is a link to a Shelter in Place checklist of supplies. FREE

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/p/radiation-preparation-resources.html


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    "…chance of a nuclear chain reaction that could spread to all the fissile material."
    Apparently, there is a scientific basis that a criticality in some of the spent fuel in SFP4 could soon involve ALL of the spent fuel in SFP4! Oh, my! So TEPCO has to make sure that those leakers in SFP4 don't spill their load of fuel pellets, and go critical!

    Told ya so! ;)

    PS: Google for yourself how skyshine from a criticality in SFP4 could necessitate an evacuation of all workers at FDNPP.
    Google for yourself how an evacuation of FDNPP could cause other nuclear reactors in Japan to be evacuated, and go critical.
    Google for yourself how criticalities at all of Japan's nuclear plants could render the Northern Hemisphere uninhabitable for a thousand years.

    So, tell me again how there is no problem at Fukushima Diiachi Nuclear Power Plant.


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    • pattersonp

      Skyshine is a BS proof-of-concept cooked up by Arnie. Google it, 90% of the articles quote Arnie. Could not find any scientific article explaining or observing or testing it. In other words, has never been witnessed or proven or directly experienced…

      they are more at risk from falling into a puddle of 100,000s Bq/Kg water than "sky_shine" directly killing the workers, especially considered they are rotated off-site so often.


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      • Pete

        Whatever Shill.

        Science.gov (among other sci pub services) has tons of articles on gamma skyshine and even peer-reviewed Studies, that I was able to find with 30 seconds of searching, so I guess you couldn't have looked too hard, or more probably you know that your comments are lies.

        Its funny how nearly every new article on this site now has you babbling somewhere in the comment chain "debating" the information presented, or minimizing the impact, "No no its not That bad."

        Why dont you tell the crew members of the ronald reagan that gamma shine is something made up by arnie gunderson… preferably face-to-face.

        And since your are so sure everything is fine, why don't you stop telling us about it then?


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        • pattersonp

          Everything is fear on here, every single other post… fear, death, blame tepco, blame nuclear, fear, fear, Arnie, Caldicott. Applaud said person after rant about nuclear holocaust. Then its "Let's trust Arnie"

          Haven't seen one solid truth on here about anything… its all speculation, models and second-hand info from these 'independent bloggers' who keep saying 'flee' the NORTHERN hemisphere… Even Iori at Fuku-Diary admits TEPCO could be wrong and his data is not even reality… Arnie doesn't even debate he just spews HIS truths then ask for donations to tell you things anyone can read out of a textbook. .

          is there another name for skyshine because I didn't find jack on any peer-reviewed site about skyshine as it relates to nuutrons and radioactive isotopes. Not 1.

          Arnie's latest article is about the soundness of nuclear instrumentation…. That is a shill. Yet I'm a shill because I don't buy into your system of ruling by fear on here? Because I actually DOUBT about Arnie's skyshine and don't just blindly follow paid anti-nuclear 'activists' like Arnie who over-exaggerates his OWN CV (e.g. never operated a nucear plant in his life but claims to be an 'operator')…


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      • VanneV anne

        Actually hot particles from both uranium and plutonium are in the wind and circle the earth every 40 days. Some rains and snows down and in breathed in. What hits the ground goes into the rivers, and what hits the ground is kicked up again by the wind.

        When someone who has breathed in a hot paticle and dies, that hot particle is released either by cremation and scattering of ashes or picked up by roots and brought up again to the surface or eaten. Just one hot particle can be recycled for billions of years (in the case of uranium) and killed and destroyed the genome over and over again.

        There was over a ton of plutonium in each reactor. The dog and pony show is to hide the fact that unit #4 already had a nuclear detonation and has already spread many radioactive particles including uranium and plutonium around the world.

        There are undoubtedly many more to come because idiots have taken over the governments and nuclear industry.


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      • razzz razzz

        pattersonp has a point but even a stopped clock is right twice-a-day.

        Skyshine is as real as can be but concentrations in deadly amounts is something else.

        At least the containment lids are in place at Daiichi and the storage tanks have lids and there are circus tents in place on some of the buildings to prevent the melts from being exposed to open air. You wouldn't want a spent fuel pool to go dry or partially dry in open air as it might be start to scatter its radiation off the moisture in the air and reflect back.

        http://www.pnl.gov/main/publications/external/technical_reports/PNNL-18666.pdf


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      • Sounds a wee bit like someone hates Arnie..


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      • So, your basic open-air uncontrolled criticality is no big deal? Huh. There's clever PR-pro manipulators, and then there's transparent shills. Wow.

        No, atmospheric gamma from said open criticality won't vaporize anybody into greasy smears on the wall. But 10 Sieverts is a plenty deadly dose, and it's not a pleasant way to go. The neutron beams will be another matter entirely. This ain't no fancy inches-thick pressure cooker encased in concrete. It's an extra deep Olympic size swimming pool suspended 100 feet in the air in an earthquake zone, covered by a glorified circus tent.

        It can go higher than 10 Sieverts.


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      • dharmasyd dharmasyd

        Hello pson bin patter.
        So many more than 3 strikes. We don't have time for this. You're out.


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  • Nick

    …".particles impairing visibility……"

    Radiation impairing brain functions.

    We must have weapons to kill each other. We must boil water with fissioning materials.

    To think our own sense of superiority outsmarted ourselves, now we watch the planet die.

    Get ready for GMI……global mass insanity. (for some of us, we feel the evidence shows that it has already begun….just look around)


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Well…considering I don't believe in the ruse what-so-ever..being deprived the the GARBAGE that TEPCO, the Japanese government, with help of the US government..is about to put out..means nothing to me at all.
    Duh..the only filming being done is by TEPCO.

    Sabotage..Sabotage what..a nuclear power plant..in full melt down.
    How can it be further sabatoged.

    Fear is making TEPCO..more and more delusional.
    Shaking in their boots.
    Shaking like the reactors themselves..during local earthquakes.


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  • VanneV anne

    All corporations use the possibility of sabotage the excuse to hide their actions.

    Pesticide labels are incomplete. They say to protect their secret formularies. The truth is that the secret, so-called inert ingredients are much worse than the ingredients listed as active.


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  • Nick

    Fracking degreasers are top-secret ingredients.

    So, it's Tuesday in Japan.

    Will we be told, finally, that, yes indeed, the SHHTF?

    If something goes awry with the SFP#4 charade, then TEPCO will have a convenient excuse to utter
    more insane apologies to the world, while they bow profusely.

    I don't want bows. I don't want "so very sorries". I want the clear, unblemished truth. Nothing but the truth.

    JUST tell us. There is no point any longer to conceal the horror that has been unleashed.

    We are quite capable of realizing what eternal mess means.


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  • KDM KDM

    They have sabotaged the whole freaking world with their nuclear waste. Come pick up your vaporized fuel you sprayed everyone with, we don't want it.


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  • weeman

    Sabotage my arse, have you seen the container, it is solid steel, what kind of explosive power would be required, so you must have navy offshore and army surrounding plant since you are so concerned, as a man in bulldozer could topple a SFP.


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  • dosdos dosdos

    "Do not film us messing up the transfer, as it might be used by terrorists, such as plaintiffs and lawyers."


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  • gottagetoffthegrid

    well, its 7am in Tokyo. the sun's just coming up.
    good luck Crane Operator, use a slow and steady hand.


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  • bwoodfield bwoodfield

    They have said the words and set the stage for a scapegoat if something happens. If they manage to pull this off then they will come out smelling like radioactive roses. If they screw up the will stage it like there was a terrorist attack to sabotage the extraction, which of course due to the high radioactivity and massive damage caused by the resulting meltdown and explosion would never be able to be confirmed.


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  • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

    "The utility says it will use a pump to clear the pool of particles for the next round of transfers"

    Would someone please remind them to refill the pool as they empty it with the pump because, TEPCO.


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  • hatrick penry

    Believe known liars if you want…here's the other side of the story on Unit 4 from the NRC FOIA documents pertaining to Fukushima…
    Fear and Loathing on Fukushima Unit 4:
    http://hatrickpenryunbound.com/?p=3928

    Unit 4 Hoax underway:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtZ-QOK5RJ0

    STOP LISTENING TO THE CONTROLLED OPPOSITION….EXAMINE THE EVIDENCE THEY ARE NOT TELLING YOU ABOUT AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELF!!!


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    • babbo dorian babbo dorian

      hatrick,
      I think that everything related to sfp4 is another bad planned and bad done stage.
      To me, looking at the pictures and vídeos publicly available of the post-blast physical condition of building 4, seems quiet impossible, not oly for those murders to build a so purpose-made installations for taking out rods one by one, but for whoever.
      If the sfp is in a so very good condition…… why to remove the rods? … and so many other questions.
      Good luck for us,


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  • So many lies, so much deception… chronic, pathetic, sick and twisted in the land BEYOND Oz…

    How can anyone trust them, much less hand them Billions of $$$ to buy another reactor?


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