Published: September 29th, 2012 at 6:22 pm ET
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Title: Powerful typhoon hits southern Japan
Source: NHK WORLD
Date: Sep. 30, 2012 at 4:35a JST
A powerful typhoon is approaching Japan’s main island. Forecasters are warning against windstorms, landslides and flooding.
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The agency says [...] center of the storm [has] winds of up to 162 kilometers an hour.
The typhoon is expected to continue northward and approach western Japan with rainfall of 50 millimeters per hour.
Jelawat has battered southern islands of Okinawa and Kagoshima prefectures.
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Published: September 29th, 2012 at 6:22 pm ET
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I have been watching this all week and was hoping it would lose more of its strength. I do hope crippled reactor 4 and 3 can handle these gusts and massive rain and that no tornadoes or water spouts develop. Livin' on a prayer.
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Prayer and compassion is all we have left.
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I wonder how fast it's moving ("ground" speed) and whether or not, as sometimes with hurricanes, that can offer hope. (Or the unthinkable, that the storm will be over water long enough to increase.)
Compared to the islands, the storm looks HUGE. Storm tracker here: http://www.cyclocane.com/jelawat-storm-tracker/. Two visuals, both 'active'. Upper one (map) has drop down that lets viewer change what is seen.
I've been hoping power would have faded more significantly. This doesn't look good at the moment. The people of this nation have had 18 months of chaos, intensity increased by many factors for the people of Fukushima. And now this?
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We saw how fragile things are when that remote control crane lightly bumped a beam a few days ago. One would believe and hope that there is nothing loose on the ground east or south of the wrecked containments. The empty tanks (filters), watercraft, scaffolding, docks and other equipment should be secured by now. This is the scenario that everyone had prayed would not happen for a few years.
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The building made of tent material will only withstand about 60-90 miles per hour wind.
What happens when that tent comes down or blows away?
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I firmly believe we would never know if that were to happen. But, if your scenario plays out, some really nasty stuff will get blown south and west. Perhaps more than has been released since early last year. The ocean, harbor, and bay will get stirred up real bad, causing even more releases imho.
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Dear hbjon,
Excellent points! 'I firmly believe we would never know if that were to happen. But, if your scenario plays out, some really nasty stuff will get blown south and west. Perhaps more than has been released since early last year. The ocean, harbor, and bay will get stirred up real bad, causing even more releases imho.'
Aloha.
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I wonder if the water purification and storage system that's produced huge quantities of highly radioactive brine by now is designed to withstand a storm of this magnitude? It's not just the collapse of a spent fuel pool that bares concern. I suspect that the mere prospect of all the contaminated material spread around the site being exposed and further spread around could be a huge problem. What a nightmare.
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I am assuming that they are using portable tanks in the 3000+ gallon range. I have also rented steel portable tanks that held about 21000 gallons and were about the size of a truck trailer. They can't even be moved when they are full. When these are full, they weigh around 80 tons or more and can handle quite a bit of wind. The bigger problem is what happens when something else hits them.
Winds like this can pick up large vehicles and fling them at high speeds. Also, small objects can be flung at speeds enabling the puncture of the tanks or breach their containment ability.
I am not certain how much of suspended debris remains in the tanks or if materials that settle out stay settled after alpha decay. Anyone have any clue of the behavior of ionizing radiation in sediment in water? After a puncture will the flow of alpha be able to cause any remixing? Will the bubbles nucleate or will it be so slight as to just diffuse? Will the lower level water decant off of the top leaving a hot sediment or will the hotter stuff float as particles and decant first?
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good point. We all know how tree branches can go right through walls. and metal sign posts? Maybe they can go through the walls of steel tanks…
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Sure hope all of those temporary plastic pipes, high radiation tanks, and baling wire holds FUKU together during a 162 KM/HR storm…
Another thing, some of the worst radiation is stored in containers that are in PITS, designed to hold spills.
What happens when 10 inches of rain dumps on those pits per HOUR?
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Weather Underground forecast, (includes 'ground' speed, which I've wondered about – 28mph – pretty fast based on my limited knowledge of these kinds of storms. By this forecast/map, winds should be much lower by Sunday. Track prediction looks unchanged.
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/wp201218_5day.html
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Sunday forecast path displays have much changed from yesterday at http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/wp201218_model.html
'Tracking' and '5-day forecast' views today don't show a path at all! (Yesterday they did – relatively straight along east side, straight over Fukushima).
Proposed paths can be viewed by clicking the 'ensemble' and 'computer' models.
The proposed path today is shown shifting considerably west, moving north along Japan's west coast.
At time of my viewing, just now, the Fukushima region is no longer shown as a 'direct hit' area.
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As bad as this situation is, at least we know it is happening and can track the winds after the storm passes over and take precautions. Tepco is probably annoyed that it couldn't hide a typhoon going over Fuku.
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What typhoon? It is an involuntary condensate and gas air reaction… with NO long term impact on health…
Keep smiling.
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Yep, keep smiling…that will save us radiation. Maybe it will save us from GMO's too…at this point, what does anyone know?
Just smile and it will all be okay.
Fake it til you make it right?
Human beings are the only species on earth that have broken off from the branch of just doing what is needed.
Bees, deer, bears, birds…they don't eff up the environment or screw each other over for profit. They do what comes naturally.
We humans somehow got off the path and decided that doing anything and everything to ensure profit or fame is more important than what this earth is intended for…and that is life. Just simply life.
And now it's all coming to an end and so many still can't see it. I hope they can find a use for their fortunes in the grave and beyond, wherever they end up.
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Can we? Searching on Google News for "typhoon fukushima" gives no results relating to the current storm. Very telling, actually.
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Wow – you're right. There are plenty of hits (over a million) but they end with Guchol back in June.
If you use "Jelawat" as your search term you get plenty of hits for the current storm, but the average schmoe probably wouldn't do that.
Fascinating!
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nice find aigeezer
interesting how the "filtering" of the internet terms is being manipulated.. feels like a gentle black ops campaign to kettle the "illegaly minded"
its nearly unspottable unless you are searching these terms all the time..
interesting when you use different search terms in different isp accounts?
note if you get any messages or duff links … hit f5 and the page is likely to appear (only have to do this on activist type web sites)
no news on how the new arrangement for copyright is going in japan either?? thought that might be big news??
local activist web-sites appear to be under attack there too.
http://nuclear-news.net/2012/09/29/update-interview-with-tozen-union-activist-in-tokyo-japan-labor-issues-in-japan/
peace
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The wind from the typhoon was really strong in Okinawa:
http://m.youtube.com/?reason=8&rdm=105#/watch?v=F-qn5aPEQyk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DF-qn5aPEQyk
Lucky it didn't have that punch on Honshu.
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here's an update for jelawat
and another tropical storm
http://youtu.be/TCFYjJBaoMQ
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