Now revealed there’s 80 damaged spent fuel assemblies leaking radioactive materials in Fukushima storage pools — Kyodo: Removal attempt at Unit 4 starts later today — Japan nuclear official ‘nervous’, as one slip could result in monumental chain reaction (AUDIO)

Published: November 17th, 2013 at 5:45 pm ET


Excerpts from Kahoku Shinpo article translated by EXSKF, Nov. 16, 2013: Fukushima I Nuke Plant Reactor 1 has 70 fuel assemblies damaged before the March 11, 2011 disaster, a quarter of the total spent fuel […] It was revealed on November 15 […] Technologies to remove damaged fuel haven’t been established […] According to TEPCO, these 70 fuel assemblies had series of problems including leakage of radioactive materials […] There are three damaged fuel assemblies inside the Reactor 4 Spent Fuel Pool […] Reactor 2 Spent Fuel Pool has three damaged […] Reactor 3 Spent Fuel Pool has four, making the total of damaged fuel assemblies 80 […]

Kyodo News, Nov. 18, 2013: TEPCO to start fuel removal from Fukushima No. 4 spent fuel pool […] later Monday […] to address one of the major hazards […] the work will require careful attention so as not to result in another radiation-leaking incident.

ABC Radio National (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), Nov. 18, 2013: […] The Japan Atomic Energy Commission has described Fukushima as an unprecedented, and deepening, crisis. […] Host: One slip could result in monumental chain reaction. Are you nervous? Dr. Tatsujiro Suzuki is currently a Vice Chairman of the Japan Atomic Energy Commission: “Yes, this this is one of the most difficult tasks, that they are going to start this week or next week. […] This is a challenging task, not a regular operation.”

Full interview with Suzuki here

Published: November 17th, 2013 at 5:45 pm ET


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113 comments to Now revealed there’s 80 damaged spent fuel assemblies leaking radioactive materials in Fukushima storage pools — Kyodo: Removal attempt at Unit 4 starts later today — Japan nuclear official ‘nervous’, as one slip could result in monumental chain reaction (AUDIO)

  • Slingerss Slingerss

    I am going to be praying and holding my breath while saying "HoLY Crap" all at the same time. Here we go~

    • Gasser Gasser

      Re-post for the new enenews readers.

      Tennessee Ernie Ford: 16 Tons


      Now scientist say man is made outta Plutonium mud
A radioactive man's just contaminated muscle and blood
Cesium muscle and blood and skinny to the bones
A mind that's weakened and a back that groans

      You remove sixteen fuel rods, what do you get
Another day contaminated and deeper in sweat
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to melted Corium's that won't show

      I was born one mornin' when the Corms did shine
I picked up my shovel and I walked there with no mind
I unloaded sixteen tons of fuel reactor rods

      And the Yakuza boss said "Well, I just beat the odds”


      • Gasser Gasser


        You unload sixteen tons, what do you get

        Another day radiated and wetter in sweat

        Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the Yakuza for my money flow

        I woke up one mornin', it was drizzlin' radioactive rain

        Frightened and troubled as they called my name

        I was raised up on a hook by a big mutha' crane
Then a Yakuza boss made me tie a fuel pool line

        You unload sixteen tons, what do you get
Another day polluted as you Cesium sweat

        Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
        I'm too freaking polluted and faith to damn low

        If you see me glown', better step aside

        A lotta men didn't, a lotta men died

        One fist of Americium, the other of Neptunium 

        If the right one don't contaminate you then the left one will

        You unload sixteen tons, what do you get

        Another day older and deeper in regret

        Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go

        I owe my soul to Fukushima's BWR whore


    • digitalaardvarks digitalaardvarks

      for at least a year

  • Ontological Ontological

    They have "winged" it all so far, why not this too. Anything that happens will of course join all the other deadly dust bunnies under that mother of all rugs.

  • mungo mungo

    The tbscam is jumping about, I wonder if they have already started

  • davidh7426 davidh7426

    And so the worlds fate rests, not as you'd expect in the hands of a world leader with his hand on the button…

    But in the sweating, shaking hands of under-trained, underpaid, nervous workers, who we'll never know, and never meet.

    Who's sacrifice will go unrecorded and unknown by practically everyone, but who hold our lives in their hands.

    They'll never be credited for success, but they will be blamed in failure.

    • davidh7426 davidh7426

      …Credit should go to the workers, and the blame should go to their bosses and government.

      But in our screwball world, the opposite will happen.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    On topic only as it relates to keeping fuel rods but…On you tube, a water pump that needs no electricity or fuel!

    If things get too radioactive and everyone must evacuate during this fuel assembly work, is there any kind of pump that uses no electricity or fuel to keep the pools watered? If not there should be. I know Tepco likes to cut corners so I posted this link.

    There are many other pumps that function without electricity or fuel on you tube. So, if they don't have something in the works, why not?

  • We Not They Finally

    Now they say that there were 80 damaged fuel assemblies BEFORE 3-11? Which set of liabilities is THAT stinking lie supposed to get them out of? Now maybe there wasn't an accident at all? Poisoning the air, water and soil was just business as usual there?

    What are they even SAYING? That they have had NO reports of damages given out since 3-11 at all, in fact it's too hot to even get near, but now they realize that it was a dangerous inferno all along, unbeknownst to the public, their own workers, anyone?

    What are they even SAYING? And why aren't they long since in jail? Again, what are they even SAYING??

    And if they were just fine with one-quarter of the fuel assemblies damaged BEFORE 3-11, then we'd like them to show up there in person to demonstrate on-site the conditions everyone else supposedly had to work under. Go, guys! The cameras are waiting! Go inside reactor no. 1! Go, go!

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      transcript of prior fuel operations;
      "OK, lets try again…fuel assembly number 75..DOH! number 76…DOH! number 77…DOH!..number 78….DOH! number 79….DOH…try again…fuel assembly 80….DOH!

      • Jebus Jebus

        And that's with precise computer controlled procedures.

        Next we'll hear that it was stuxnet that caused the prior glitches.

        Two monkeys, a water buffalo, with some bamboo and twine, could do better…

    • unincredulous unincredulous


      Kamikazee plant operators. Maybe they blew the plant up themselves when they saw an act of nature coming to blame it on. Not saying they did, but …


  • Socrates

    The entire Northern Hemisphere is at risk.

    I'll be at the NRC meeting in Carlsbad, California.

    I wish I was in South America with my entire family. These recent revelations make the removal of the rods from the spent fuel pools even more risky.

    The NRC wants to hear from the community about what to do with the spent fuel at SONGS Nuclear Power Plant in San Onfre, California. The choices are to store them on site or remove them to a temporary site until an ultimate destination can be found.

    Does anyone have any ideas?

    • Slingerss Slingerss

      Just don't do what Hanford Nuclear reservation did. Bury it all, and now its leaking.

    • flatsville


      Where are the temp options?

      Are they worse locations than keeping them in an EQ zone along an ocean coast?

      • Socrates

        Dry cast storage somewhere off premises then final depository when the new Yucca Mountain repository is determinef.

        • Wyakin Wyakin

          I have a physicist friend at LLNL. His suggestion several years ago was to store nuclear PP and processing waste in glass tanks above the ground where everyone could see it and know what it is.

          Obviously he was thinking of the practical psychological effect of this act, and yes visibility has its benefits especially when you consider longevity and the the out of site leaking going on at multiple sites, including Hanford.

          Razzz’s suggestions are the best with which I could concur or identify.

          The location of “Dry cast storage somewhere off premises” may be material in a support of a recommendation.

          At the meeting, ask the NRC what plans and funding contingencies are in place for storing the waste for next 250,000 or so years.

          Temporary spent fuel pools around the country are now defacto permanent storage sites. I cannot see any jurisdiction in the US with suitable geological conditions volunteering to become the first national repository for nuclear waste. I predict Yucca mountain will never happen.

          I sincerely wish you/us the best.


      • pattersonp

        They can dump the crap into a salt-mine, or salt cavity in earth (atleast 100 feet thick on all sides.

        Otherwise they use old mines, or dig new underground tunnels…

        and they ALL leak. in the USA, in Brail, in Canada… Every storage of 'spent' fuel leaks radioactive substances forever. It is a false illusion to bury hot rods and then close the cave door like Jesus is sleeping inside.

        • Given what's been happening in Bayou Corne (Louisiana), I'd say salt dome storage is definitely not going to pass muster.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          PattersonP, the stone was rolled away the morning of the third day? Sorry, the Jesus analogy didn't work for me. You really didn't mean to say "like Jesus is sleeping inside" did you? Just didn't make sense to me.

          But point well taken re: there's no really good method for safely storing radioactive waste, long term.

          Are you saying dry cask storage leaks, as well?

        • flatsville

          >>>Otherwise they use old mines, or dig new underground tunnels…<<<

          During the late 1990s "they" were looking at abandoned coal mines in central IL. It was an insane plan.

          I got a call to intervene. The effort didn't get far. They got chased from county to county. The locals threatened to kill they survey crews.

          That works too.

    • Ontological Ontological

      How about Japan taking that bran new aircraft carrier they rolled out a couple months ago, and modify its jet launcher into a rail gun mag-lev cannon to launch them into space harmlessly out of our solar system! All you have to do is spray the assemblies with zeolite foam and place a aluminum or fiberglass shell over them, and launch the cooler rods away from the earth. I am getting really pissed here that NO ONE will even BOTHER to think in this worsening crisis!

      • pattersonp

        I bring this argument up sometimes: dump this crap into space.

        people look at me like I'm crazy meanwhile we have infinite space above, and finite space below.

        Reinforces the aliens-exist argument as well as they are aware we have destructive technologies, etc., so we cant just shoot crap into space.

        • 16Penny 16Penny

          What are you going to do when one of the radioactive slugs finds intelligent life? They might be pissed when it hits their ship or whatever. That is like supporting ocean dumping 100 years ago. Someone will have to deal with it eventually. I think we can find a better plan.

          Fictitious press release: "We have no clue why they attacked us, we never provoked them, OOooh God . . . The HUMANITY!" lol.

          How about we construct a radioactive mausoleum to house the remains of all the nucleocrats that to this day support this crap. I think locating it on a subduction zone and allowing it to be sucked into earth's core and allowed to digest there. There could still be nasty side effects but at least we wouldn't be flinging our poo blindly into space like apes.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            "There could still be nasty side effects but at least we wouldn't be flinging our poo blindly into space like apes.


            See 7:38

          • Ontological Ontological

            So I guess poo poo in our nest is better than throwing the crap out of the nest like parent Eagles do. That untidy logic is not healthy for the little ones.
            Southern Nevada USA is fighting the bright idea to burry for a fee of course, some of the worlds worst nuclear headaches under the sand at the Nuclear Test Site. This place was a fine place for a test site, but hauling in nuclear waste over the public roads to put it up there is true insanity! They closed Yucca Mt for this kitty litter box solution. They even did a partial sub criticality test to determine effects of any blown fuel rods.
            I sadly remember the 60s and 70s when the sane, humanitarian scientists fought these idiotic corporations, to a certain success, only to 40 years later watch as the evil destroys our ecosystems at an ever quickening pace.

            • 16Penny 16Penny

              I understand your point. I fully support not making anymore radioactive waste. Unlike poo, it is not a necessary byproduct of our being. Unlike plans to bury above ground (for now), placing the waste below the sea floor in a subduction zone means it will (most likely) slip under the mantle and join the core of the planet. I tried to acknowledge that there may be other side effects of this plan that could prove to be worse than shooting it through an aliens windshield and pissing them off.
              Some possibilities I could foresee would be radioactive lava flow when the waste hit magma. Maybe it causes a hot spot and forms a chain of islands. Maybe the radionucleides attach to a shrimp or bacterial colony and mutate it into a monster. Maybe it hits the core and goes straight down to the center and causes some chain reaction that kills the planet. I still haven't heard a plan that I would say is near perfect. Finding methods to render the waste inert would be ideal but thus far seem to be fantasy.

              Another take on it might be: if you went past a nest of eagles filled with their own poo would you want to help? If you went by a nest of eagles flinging their poo at you would you want to help?

              Also having the waste buried under the ocean would make it less likely to become a target, and more difficult to hit if it was a target. Less likely to go critical. More prone to corrosion and increased likelihood of ecosystem contamination.

              I'm not saying it is perfect.

              • Ontological Ontological

                Perhaps placing the rod assemblies in casks on a subduction zone and letting it slide under mantle rock would be ok. Just as risky as space jettisoning them no doubt I agree. It's absolute stupidity to have this stuff at all. I would rather know this insanity old fuel nuclear waste is out in the cold depth of space however, and not less than 100 miles from my home, secretly transported by incompetent corporations at night on a highway that runs less than 500 feet away from it! I lived through skull cancer treatments to face this BS.

    • We Not They Finally

      Maybe the NRC should sequester THEMSELVES wherever it is that they think that the spent fuel would be safe. Test case: Safe enough for you, safe enough for me.

      Look, no one would want them kept on site. That's one big NIMBY. So why is it the community that gets the brunt of some other bad, wrong, unworkable decision?

      It's their fuel rods. So let them relocate THEMSELVES to whatever they are putting them. I'm sure the community will be glad to come back in ten years and assess the condition of their health. THEN maybe permanent storage can be decided on. Well, so long as the NRC is up to physically accompanying the spent fuel to the new re-location themselves.

      Oh, but they are humans and who would do that to humans? Well, maybe putting a little Golden Rule up to their faces might get them started into ACTING like humans.

      • We Not They Finally

        I meant "wherever" they are putting them, not "whatever." Not that "whatever" did not cross my mind. It seems to have been a big "whatever" for a very long time, as to what the NRC thinks is acceptable endangerment of all of US.

    • razzz razzz

      Immediately dry cask as much spent fuel as possible. Edison has already collected a lot of the fees in past billings for decommissioning, the money should be used right away on long term fuel storage. I doubt they want to spend a million bucks per air-cooled storage container when they can keep the spent fuel in the pools and claim it is safe there. It's not safe during quakes. Texas might accept spent fuel in air-cooled containers for long term storage.

      The plant will never really disappear and in time the radioactive cores will be cut up to fit in special containers and be trucked to some other part of the country for storage and/or burial. Radiation is forever.

      Probably should put entire decommissioning of the plant site out for bid and not have Edison involved as another money making opportunity on their part. Edison is great at billing costs but not as a company that does nuke de-construction, they would just put it out for bid anyway and tack on their percentage as overseer.

      Edison is already forecasting a shortfall in cleanup funds.

      You see how well clueless Edison handled the upgrades to the plant and failed on an epic scale…lucky for us. They can't be trusted and should not in anyway be further involved at SONGS. I bet lots of nuke contamination onsite they want to hide and lie about. Probably criminal. NRC is an enabler, so don't expect a good result.

      • Socrates

        Thanks, razzz

        Edison and tepco are two peas in a pod, cutting corners to increase profits. It is part of corporate DNA. They have no shame. No concern for 8 millon people's lives apparently, only profits for shareholders and CEO compensation.

        Tepco left damaged rods in sfp 4 for 40 years…. SCE almost took out Los Angeles and San Diego with defective pressure tubes. I have a whistleblower who went to the NRC and Senator Boxer about it all. Very technical but totally reckless errors and lack of quality control and appropriate documentation. Seems like a pattern in the industry. Given the magnitude of the risks, this should be criminal instead of rewarded by more profits. SCE wants to pass on 2.5 billion to ratepayers of their utility in the PUC. A friend of mine is representing ratepayers. Thank him, Barbara Boxer, the whistleblower, Rose, SOS, Friends of the Earth, people on enenews, bloggers, alternative press, God, whomever, local surfers, Surfrider Foundation, and many, many others, Arnie, birdwatchers, so, so many concernef and affected prople who yook on SCE.

        I worked on it for almost three years with all of the above advising, writing, blogging…

        We can fo it if we try.After SONGS and Fukushima and Hanford, Chernobyl, TMI, consciousness was raised. Dr. Caldicott is the greatest.

        • Socrates

          Harvey Wasserman, how could I forget him.

          Joseph Mangano and Janette Sherman, M.D epidemiology and toxicology provided consulting. Rochelle Becker, many others.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Socrates, I'm reminded of how SMUD (Sacramento Municipal Utilities District) handled the Rancho Seco nuclear plant operation. (The locals call it "Rancho Stinko" and for good reason.)

          Sad thing is, SMUD is still in business, and now they are testing their "smart" meters on the unsuspecting public. And charging enormous fees to opt out of their smart meter program. To the tune of $127 for a "setup fee" and $14 per month for meter reading. They only come and read the meters once every three months! Therefore, they get paid to do nothing, most of the time. Sound familiar?

          • Ana Ana

            At least those of us in Sacramento got SMUD to shut it down. I live here and remember what a bitter fight it was and a real triumph when we won.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Pour diesel fuel on them and light a match. Send the Bill to the nuclear industry. Do it quick, before they do the same and bill US.

      BTW, same goes for the IAEA

      No disrespect meant for people with birth defects.

    • SadieDog

      How long will the southern hemisphere be "safer"? Is there an estimate on how long it will take radiation to completely cover globe?

    • Kashiko Kashiko

      I'm in Niigata with my wife (Japanese)and 2 sons (Japanese/British. Stuck here because the British Government won't give my wife a visa. Let me out of here….please

      • pattersonp

        Kashiko: Do you have a blog? People like you need to talk and let the world know how much censorship is happening.

        Please be brave. I feel so sorry for you that close to this monster.

      • Sparky Sparky

        Kashiko, Is there any other country that you and your family can visit or emigrate to, even if just for a few weeks or months and then onward to another destination? It may be difficult but at least it'll be safer than staying in Niigata. Where ever, just get as far away from Fukushima (and any fallout carried by the jet/water stream)as soon as possible. Throughout, stay tuned to Enenews as it is a trusted source for timely information and support. I'm sending heartfelt good will and positive vibes that you and your family remain healthy and safe. 🙂

      • SadieDog

        I am sure you have tried British embassy/consulate in Japan. Maybe contact them back home; maybe a British lawyer could help; or start asking(hypothetically) how you might "obtain" a visa for her some other way. Good Luck.

      • Songie Songie

        I hate to suggest this, Kashiko, but you might want to consider sending the boys on ahead….to relatives or friends who can care for them while you wait for your wife's visa to come through. If they are young children, then they are much more sensitive to radiation than you and wife…..

      • Ana Ana

        Can you travel to another one of the Commonwealth countries?

      • Tung Jen Tung Jen

        Kashiko, we are in Belize….Canadian/Japanese …. come here. Former British Hondorus… Get Visa in Tokyo.

    • pattersonp

      South America has nucelar reactors too. People trying to hide from this by going to another country is foolish. Paranoia runs deep and can really make you crazy.

      Chances are you being poisoned from Fukushima itself is a needle in a hay stack. There's thousands of other crap in the air, food, water anyways.

      • We Not They Finally

        pattersonp, assuming you are not the dreaded "T" word, what you seem to have is DENIAL. We are ALL being poisoned by Fukushima in the U.S. Just the Western states worse for now.

        "Needle in a haystack" seems to be either an ignorant or a callous assessment, given what you have already read in these posts. How can you read hundreds of these comments (and you do post a lot) and come out with "needle in a haystack"?

        • Au Au

          Getting poisoned by Fuku is like finding a needle in a hay stack? It's more like finding a piece of hay in a hay stack.

  • soern

    i dont believe, there is anything left in sfp4 after it melted down through the floor and was dry for 3 weeks in 2011.
    If they pull out anything off sfp4 now, it is theatre only, leading public interests away from real problems as always.
    See Hattric Penry's documentation:
    Read all the documents to get it clearly.
    We dont have other real documents – just assumptions by all that known "experts" and Tepco releases which are mostly lies.
    Tepco obviously invested a lot of money to do this show,
    but inested nothing to stop the huge daily radio active releases.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Seems like a great way to cover the fact that some spent fuel rods already burned, melted and released their radionuclides into the environment…

    • pattersonp

      Yes I've been thinking this for some time too.

      I remember the early videos where SPF4 was BOILING and giving off large volumes of steam from the T-hawk cam drone videos, and that was WEEK 1.

      There is no way these managed to stay cool for 3 years when everything else is burning…

      Reactor 5 and 6 is silent.

      Also Reactor plant Daini… No one is talking. There was also a mudslide at a generating station outside of Fukushima during typhoon. Also, NO coverage of that.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        See NHK historical reporting — video and photos of Fukushima Daini, for information. Don't personally speak much Japanese, so not sure what exactly happened there. But there is visual documentation of extensive damage to at least one of the reactors. Looked just like #4 in the photos/video I saw.

  • Grampybone Grampybone

    SFP4 99% neutrino contamination and 80+ damaged fuel assemblies on site overall. Break the 1% Boron levels in SFP4 then it goes into critical states. With ruptured rods already flooding the area with isotopes it is impossible to force levels down from detonating if catastrophic failure happens during removal. The broken rods must ALL be checked for damage before they can determine which ones should be selected for removal. Haste makes waste. Waste in this case makes planetary life at a cellular level impossible to sustain.

      • Grampybone Grampybone

        "75% or more of the radiation contained in SFP #4 may have been released into the atmosphere. Modeling was done on a 100% release."

        SFP4 Went to 5000c and had a nuclear explosion. I know TEPCO lies about the number of fuel rods damaged. All I'm saying is that removing the rods with 1% Boron to water content on a damaged fuel assembly could be suicidal.

        • We Not They Finally

          Then again, how feasible is advance manual inspection? Isn't that's part of the problem to start with? Or do they just "Step right up!"? It's hard to even know what THEY think is feasible to do.

          • pattersonp

            What are you talking about? TEPCO sends workers in from ther Yazuka/US bosses. You haven't seen the sheds they keep people in? The drunks with shaking hands? The amateur operators getting training 2 weeks before spf4 pulling?

            Come on. You give TEPCO too much credit, they are pieces of garbage born from old Japanese money that was funded by US. Read history of nuclear Japan, they were pushed over the edge by the Rothschild/IMF/UN crowd

  • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

    So prior to 3/11 and over the course of normal daily operations they damaged 70 bundles of fuel….. that are leaking radiation…. however four a tsunami, explosions, fires, salt water and eqs have resulted in a handful of damaged bundles…

    Clearly the day to day operations must be brought to an end as they are more dangerous to us than eqs, tsunamis, explosions and fires and corrosive salt water storage.

    An unending stream of total bullshit, I say.

    • maybesomeday

      "It was like that when I got here"…Bart Simpson.

      • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

        OR the classic " I didn't do it"

        OR from Mr Burns himself…

      • fej

        maybesomeday– damn near pissed myself laughing when i read that.
        " it was like that when i got here "
        That's about it. Too bad it's so serious.
        I live in B.C. Canada, 250 miles from the Pacific ocean, and know i'm inline with the continual jetstream coming from Japan.
        On our coast , there's reports of starfish "falling apart", or "melting". And Herring bleeding from there eyes and gills.
        No one has linked this ( in the msm that is ) to radiation, but it's got me worried.
        You wonder how many rods will just eventually disappear.
        Good luck to the workers.

  • Styxhexenhammer666 Styxhexenhammer666

    Soon I will be a beautiful ghoul.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Good video link about this ongoing situation:

  • Socrates

    Uncertainty and mistrust…

    NRC documents say most of the rods in SFP 4 burned. Now they are saying something else.

    Given the magnitude of possible consequences, it is a bad time to have a lack of credibility.

    We need a source of energy that does not require lies and secrecy. Einstein had their number.

    We all suffer from their need for plutonium in the weapons program. That's what this is all about. Did we need nukes to beat Germany? Not at all! The Russians did that for us so we had army surplus to drop on Japan to scare the Soviets. Now we have proliferation. Very flawed logic. Now this and SONGS. Hanford is no picnic either.

    • Grampybone Grampybone

      SFP4's atmospheric detonation was extreme and produced a yellow/orange flash. The reactors themselves could have released less radiation into the air than SFP4 considering how many fuel rods were in it. TEPCO claims they dodged the bullet after admitting most of the fuel was gone and not in the building meaning it mostly went straight up.

      • Socrates


        The top guys at NRC said it all went up into the atmosphere in their emails.If they were all wrong, that worries me too.These guys aren't just blogging.

        I know there was a deflagration, but you say detonation. That could be, given criticalities. There needs to be confinement.

        One way or the other, we will find out.

  • Jebus Jebus

    WTF, do they seriously want us to believe that the have damaged that many fuel bundles in the pools and just left them there? Really? C'mon Really?
    Is this what Dr Yamashita, Lady Judge, and Lake Barret came up with over tea? Seriously?

    Here's the NRC inspection manual on spent fuel racks. The how to for Tepco's future reference. As if…

    Issue Date: 03/14/94 – 1 – 50095

    Anyone need any more proof that they are hiding and lieing about a certain fact…

    • Socrates

      Sounds like the proverbial bull in the China shop.

    • KDM KDM

      They've just told what's been damaged prior to 3-11. Not what's damaged now. If there are only 4 damaged assembles in #3 pool, all Tepco's officials can line up and I'll kiss their ***.

    • pattersonp

      excellent pdf. sharing. thx.

      these manual shows how silly nuclear power generation and storage is wow… looks like 2 years old wrote it when they found out they could use a magnifying glass to burn ants

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Jebus, once again you've provided an excellent reference source. Thank you.

  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    80 Assemblies means 5600 + – individual damaged fuel rods. Only a fool or a deliberate effort to intentionally set of an uncontrolled criticality would proceed with remote controlled handling of these radioactive IED's! Entombment is the ONLY OPTION!! As said by Arnie over 2 years ago.

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Yes why won't they just cover up the mess and come back in a hundred or so years or clear out the CSFP and Reactor five and six and then table Reactor four. "Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly, man got to sit and wonder why, why, why."

    • Sam

      They have already done part of the sarcophagus at 4. They are just buying time now with all the rod shifting BS.

  • weeman

    How can they start removal this week, when only last week they revealed boron wafers are gone.
    Does that not almost guarantee criticality, what measures have been taken to replace or fix wafers, none.

  • lickerface lickerface

    Nobody is going to believe what they say at this point.

    "…the work will require careful attention so as not to result in another radiation-leaking incident."

    This struck me as the bigger clue that they are completely in the "mislead" stage. Mainstream media already likes to convince their viewers and readers that the disaster had one milestone – the initial explosions and initial release. Seeing how Tepco also is feeding into this theatre madness despite FOIA knowledge proves they rely on ignorance for the world to remain calm and complacent. It'd be nice for media to man up and reference the FOIA information and THEN report their story. "Another incident" in this context implies that readers have no clue about the truth as observed in the hatrickpenry site where the FOIA documents are referenced. The last "incident" isn't over… it's ongoing.

  • Jebus Jebus

    It just doesn't happen this way. It is very uncommon to damage the bundles when putting them in the racks…
    A lot of math goes into the configuration in the pools just so there is not a criticality.

    Read this from 1977, and this is without computer controlled procedures.

    They are lying…

    Behavior of Spent Nuclear Fuel in Water Pool Storage

    Mechanical damage to spent fuel during reactor discharge and fuel
    handling in the pools is minimal. The number of incidents where fuel was dropped during fuel handling operations appears to have been less than a dozen cases in 1974 to 1976. Only two cases were identified where fuel damage resu1ted in breached cladding .

  • Jebus Jebus

    Reducing the Hazards from Stored Spent Power-Reactor Fuel in the United States

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Jebus, what do you think is actually going on?

    • Jebus Jebus

      Sorry, still recovering from that last link I posted…

      I'm absolutely not an "expert" and have no "inside info", but I think that we are being deceived into thinking that none of the fuel rods overheated and released their radionuclides and noble gasses.
      How many did?
      More than none certainly…

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        OK, and I have to agree, Jebus. That's based on stories here, and what's in the NRC documents obtained under FOIA, at Enformable and Hatrick Penry's site. Then there is the grisly video showing reactor 4 building steaming, and the June, 2011 video where the place is obvious on fire. That's the vid. Sickputer posted a couple of times.

        The big question (for me) is what's left?

  • Styxhexenhammer666 Styxhexenhammer666

    Honestly, every morning when I tune back into the live feed of the reactors, I expect to see a smoulldering crater where unit 4 used to be.

    That's how little faith I have in TEPCO to pull off something this convoluted.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Give it time and we must all be patient for the/your smoldering crater to appear… 🙁

  • ftlt

    Good luck Japan and TEPCO…

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    I just watched this video, and there are some interesting points that I had not read here. cracks in the ground with 1000 rem coming out of the cracks. I may have missed it, because the new articles were really coming out fast a while back.

    On the you tube page It says published in August, but it also says November, so I don't know whats up with that. The guy on there says its been 160 days since the accident at one point, I think. So that is weird. BTW, I like the introductory comment as far as accuracy. It actually sucks, though.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Like Paul Gunter, Kevin Kamps do a great job. Beyond Nuclear is a great outfit, and they're doing great reporting and activism.

      Paul Gunter discusses how MSM controls information on nuclear accidents. Spells it out very clearly.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture


    I think it's been known the plant is headed for a horrible outcome no matter what, and the Nuclear industry needs a scapegoat, which will be to blame workers for a mistake that set everything off.

  • SadieDog

    Are there any scenarios that could occur in Fukushima than would limit some populations to weeks or days, or cause some immediate ELE?

    • Sam

      Immediate ELE at a global level is unlikely. It will be a slow death by cancer or some 'benign' tumor that blocks your food pipe.

      • SadieDog

        Thanks, just wondering if there is anything to watch for that should encourage me to prepare my favorite meal one last time. 😉

  • Sam

    The Corium from 1,2,3…they have to try to get their locations. Maybe they are already doing it with international help but this deafening silence is telling a different story.

  • zardoz2012 zardoz2012

    Don't worry. The girl of my dreams is a super hero. I told her about what is about to go down at SFP 4. She is going to use her psychic powers to stop them from killing us all.

    I got to kiss her one last time today. I'm good. Good night and good luck everyone! XOXO

  • Vorith

    "Jim Stone called he wants his hogwash theories back."

    Know something about this guy? I saw his page about an apparent sabotage. No 9.0 quake etc. He may be wrong in details but it seems to me that at least some faction knew what was up before any "quake" or quake hit (as this is just about axiomatic). Also the fact that the entire world's resources (besides mouths and fonts) haven't mobilized is too much of a red flag.

    In any case, this seems to be an impossible endeavor if as reported. Even at work here simply trying to prevent any and all mishaps is just about impossible.

    Quite the list we've got now. Barium, aluminum, cesium, strontium, iodine, plutonium, uranium, fluoride, nano particles, spiking methane levels, mercury and it's friends, corexit and the new guys MEOR's… just the tip > and all by design.

    So for those who believe in karma there you go. To incarnate onto a poisoned world. Homer would likely say, "DOH!"

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      Conspiracy theories are formed by the nuclear industry to disguise the fact that there will be nuclear accidents in the future, because there is no way to contain nuclear energy from having accidents in the future.

      I just posted info. elsewhere on this website.

      Chernobyl only has 10% of its fuel left after the explosion. The sarcophagus is to hide this fact and the fact that nuclear reactors are always uncontainable and every nuclear energy reactor on earth can have a nuclear accident and when that happens there is nothing that can be done and the radiation will go on forever.

      These accidents are nuclear detonations.

      Using MOX fuel is the stupidest thing humans have ever devised. Plutonium is aptly named for the Greek god of Hades (hell) and death. Pandora's box (all con artists let you know what the con is; they are so proud of their ability to fool and take advantage of their victims) if opens lets loose on the earth all evil and diseases and death.

      The motivation is not to kill everyone off. It is money and power. It is the stupidity of mankind to let greed and love of power rule their actions and to agree to be ruled by those who are ruled by these passions.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        sorry, if opened

      • flatsville


        >>>The motivation is not to kill everyone off. It is money and power. It is the stupidity of mankind…<<<

        Agreed. It's really that simple.

        It often looks like a conspiracy whrn like-minded people pursue their economic best interests.

        They rarely need to gather in a smoke-filled backroom. They know the playbook intuitively.

  • Vorith

    Removing the touchy bombs/rods may be more dis info? Ok but why release a news item which sounds essentially like a doomsday scenario? I also wonder why more Japanese folks don't post around here.

    Anyone know the (actual) rad levels in Massachusetts rain water? Folks around here are still more concerned with their lawns. I've found this annoying but then it may be better if we can keep on with this trivia as to something else. Unfortunately something has to give eventually…

    About 2 years ago I saw a youtube vid where the guy filmed a train passing by. No description but for one question (paraphrased), "What in the world are these for?"
    It was a 5+ minute vid of an Endless train stacked about 10×10 high with nothing but plastic coffins.

    Seems almost all major vectors today are negative. They've been busy. What will it be like in 20-50 years…….
    Alan Watt says They've already all the necessary technologies to clean up any mess. That they plan to use them After the massive culling of rabble types.

  • Vorith

    Oh yeah, blaming something on the workers won't cut, for any reasonable person anyway.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Eighty of them..huh.
    Are they sure?

  • pjrsullivan

    It was understood by 1920 that nuclear waste could deliver a knock out punch to the human race. Might we not be living in the beginning days of permanently contaminated air and fields?

    If nuclear waste has been understood to be so thoroughly destructive to our environment and our health, and for such a long time, does it not seem that there may be some sort of plan behind all of this here? Rather than an accident, might this not be a well planned and staged event to poison on out our entire environment? Possibly a case of Die fantastic?

    How many can we only wonder, consider it true that we have been attacked numerous times with nuclear blast weapons?

    They couldn't get us with nuclear blast because our elders stepped in. Might it not be beyond plausible denial-ability, that they've scheduled nuclear waste to be our final farewell?

    Chernobyl left 25,000 square miles contaminated that is still uninhabitable until this day. Hitachi-GE is looking to be thousands of times deadlier than Chernobyl. Why are the people that caused the problem still holding our purse strings?

    Must labor not awaken before our final farewell and STRIKE THEM OUT?

    Must we not free our minds, STOP THE WAR, and save ourselves?

    Must we not get some help from labor to get the 430 more Hitachi-GE sparkler machines safely shut down?

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      I wonder what effect this is having on property values in Japan where it is NOT contaminated.

      Do for sale signs there have dosimeters. Are they listing radiation counts in the classifieds?

  • Clyde Scalf

    Now TEPCO says that they have 3 assemblies in unit 4 that are damaged. They were damaged when the plant was functional with no abnormalities, everything is perfect, no problems and have a go to move the rods and they still managed to screw up! Didn't even fix their screw-ups, just left them.

    They just didn't do this to the aforementioned assemblies but did this to another 77 as well. The same qualified people who screwed up these rods are now in charge of removing them.

    These operators screwed up brand new rods and now we can trust them to remove damaged, overheated, debris impacted and tilting rod assemblies, I don't think so.

    I have but one word for this operation; FUBAR.

  • hatrick penry

    Don't be fooled by known liars and deceivers…Unit 4 fuel offload is likely a hoax….examine the evidence and decide for yourself:

    NRC FOIA document evidence contradicts official story…read here:

    "My Gram-Gram always said….it is better to be good….than to not." ~Steve Martin from the movie 'Dirty Rotten Scoundrels'

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Japan Desperate to Cover Up Fukushima Nuclear Disaster 9/10/11

    Fukushima Residents Seek Answers Amid Mixed Signals From Media, TEPCO and Government. Report from the Radiation Exclusion Zone (Updated May 16) – See more at: