NPR: Operators struggle with major crack in dam; Spillway could topple — AP: “Extends all 65 ft across monolith”; About 20 miles from Hanford nuclear site — TV: “Pretty crazy… one of biggest dams in state, going to be a catastrophe if something happens” (VIDEO)

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Northwest Public Radio, NPR network, Mar. 3, 2014 (emphasis added): Dam operators are struggling to find a solution for a major underwater crack in the Wanapum Dam. It spans the Columbia River in central Washington […] The worst-case scenario is if the spillway was to topple. But [Thomas Stredwick, Grant County Public Utility District] thinks other sections of the dam would hold on and downstream communities should be safe. >> Listen to the broadcast here

AP, Mar. 3, 2014: […] Pressure caused a slight bowing in the dam that was first detected Feb. 24 by a staff member who noticed a curb on the road on top of the spillway was out of alignment. Engineers sent down divers who discovered the crack Thursday, 75-feet below the waterline. The crack extends all 65 feet across the monolith, which is 126 feet tall and 92 feet thick. Stredwick doesn’t think the crack extend all the way through the pier […] about 20 miles downriver is the Priest Rapids dam, near the Hanford nuclear reservation.

KIMA-TV, Mar. 2, 2014:

KIMA: The Wanapum Dam built almost 50 years ago has a crack in it. Officials don’t know how it happened, and neighbors are worried.

Kyle Rosskelly: “The aging of these structures and we should be on top of it, so if there’s something we could have done to prevent it, it’s pretty surprising it hasn’t been done.”

Thomas Stredwick, Grant County Public Utility District: “That’s what they’re really inspecting at this time, so right now, we don’t have any information either way. What we’re doing is stabilizing” […]

KIMA: Kyle is still concerned about the worst-case scenario.

Kyle: “It’s pretty crazy. It’s one of the biggest dams in the state, and it’s going to be a catastrophe if something happens.”

Watch KIMA’s broadcast here (video appears to be no longer available)

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182 comments to NPR: Operators struggle with major crack in dam; Spillway could topple — AP: “Extends all 65 ft across monolith”; About 20 miles from Hanford nuclear site — TV: “Pretty crazy… one of biggest dams in state, going to be a catastrophe if something happens” (VIDEO)

  • humptydumpty humptydumpty

    Here is one of many examples revealing sooner or later how human engineering on a massive scale is vulnerable to the forces of nature. The excuse of unforeseen consequences doesn't hold up to scrutiny when obvious design defects or shoddy construction/siting/materials or inadequate maintenance are clearly to blame.

    Most of these defects could be prevented by proper regulation and dedicated resources for maintenance, except when a technology such as nuclear fission is simply too dangerous to be considered fail safe or worth the high risk under any circumstances.

    Maybe we are approaching the "clusterfuck" stage where all kinds of technological control systems start breaking down as greater instabilities in the earth's ecosystem and geology take their toll.

    • GeorgeK

      Will Army Corp of Engineers blow the levies like in New Orleans?

      • jec jec

        No levees..just Hanford is the nearest flood plain area. River runs south then makes a dog leg to White Bluffs.
        That dog leg is caused by the geology. Hanford areas, in the case of dam failure, could flood and a groundwater plume with contamination from leaks already exists.

        Comments in hydrology documents suggest landslides could be possible from undercutting. The lower dam, Priest Rapids, is not meant to hold water,only to protect the lower river areas from fast flow-to protect the salmon eggs and fry. This is a very critical area for fish hatcheries..

        Studies do not take into consideration there could EVER be a dam failure from earthquakes or structure failure. All the studies mention is an up to 50% loss of water due to 'explosion.' Scientists have been smoking dope when they wrote this stuff.

        • ocifferdave

          From a friend of mine that works at one of the dams on the Columbia River:

          Not ours from John Day, but there will be Corps folks there I am sure. Don't worry, if Wanapum breaks, it won't irradiate anything. πŸ™‚

          I don't know what the plan will be since I am not a civil engineer, but I expect they will build a temporary coffer dam in front of the broken part to relieve the pressure and go from there. They can build a temp dam, just like when they construct a new one, and leave the powerhouse and stronger parts of the spillway intact to pass water. Coulee, which is above Wanapum, is a flood control structure and should be be able to hold back enough for them to either rebuild Wanapum, or conduct a structured tear-down & removal.

          I'm not too worried about this one.

          -David's friend

          Hi,

          I was reading this and was thinking of you.

          Are you loaning out any of your engineering heros to tackle the Wanapum dam crack problem? If they fix it, their career would be ser for life! πŸ™‚

          -David

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          jec, quoting you

          "Studies do not take into consideration there could EVER be a dam failure from earthquakes or structure failure. All the studies mention is an up to 50% loss of water due to 'explosion.' Scientists have been smoking dope when they wrote this stuff."

          Yes, and in Washington there is always a risk of major floods, and major seismic activity. Smoking dope indeed. Sheesh, what weren't they thinking? (Credit for mental activity or signs of life will not be given here.)

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, "we are approaching the "clusterfuck" stage" ! πŸ™

  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    PNL Report Hanford Flooding Data >>
    http://www.pnl.gov/main/publications/external/technical_reports/PNNL-6415Rev18.pdf

    Look at the Hydrology Sections beginning on page-79.

    http://nwpr.org/post/sen-wyden-hanford-tanks-groundhog-day-problems-keep-repeating

    http://earthfix.nwpr.org/energy/article/hanford-tanks-how-much-do-we-know/

    IMHO, 100% safe permanent long-term storage options at Hanford can NOT be developed.. and I knew 20 years ago WIPP was a bad idea. All storage options can only be considered temporary with URGENT need for CONSTANT & INTENSE monitoring & maintenance.

    A properly designed Basalt Storage System in Gable Ridge & Gable Butte can be made to be relatively safer and cost less $$$ than a repeat of the double-wall steel tank boondoggle.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basalt_Waste_Isolation_Project

    We are stuck with storing the radwaste we already have until we miraculously invent a way to transmute or transport this stupid load of poisonous crap to deep space.

    Please do NOT make any more of this CRAP !!

  • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

    I also recall that the WIPP event caused back-ups of waste shipments at Hanford too??!! EVERY "dammed" type of "catastrophic failure of just about ANY component of our infrastructure is compounded by nuclear shitium being near ANY potential "Ground Zero's" and makes even common weather events,dam failures,floods,tornadoes,earthquakes,etc. become likely to trigger or exasperate nuclear ELE's!!! 😐 …

    • We Not They Finally

      The whole national temperament is convenience and quick fix and throw-away. It always has been. If governing bodies actually CARED about employing America, there would be a job for every able-bodied man (and probably a few women, too) able to do construction work. And that SHOULD happen That would benefit us all.

      • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

        @WNTF; That is an excellent idea which I hope TPTB sees via your post even if they wouldn't give you credit for suggesting it! It'd fix unemployment and the stagnant economy,inflation,overseas jobs & material outsourcing and if they insisted on keeping nukes in the picture would at least reduce the risk of nuke facilities being impacted by crumbling dams,etc.!! If it was a mission that only created jobs,boosted domestic manufacturing & construction,engineering,logistics,etc.,etc. it would still put the USA on a firm footing while the rest of the countries crap economies & strife took them back down a notch or two while the USA's power level came back up to "leader of the pack",possibly averting our downfall or at least making life a bit easier here just prior to the end of the world??!! Anything beats just sitting,laying around in a broken down world of shit when there's still options that could even make things nice enough to make TPTB rethink their dependence on nukes & dirty, nuke-puke money! The POS politicians might even have something to be proud of as their legacy for a change after selling us out so long ago…..

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    21st, You are very wise..yes, stop making this CRAP! πŸ™‚

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    two inch wide x 65 ft long lateral shifting suggests seismic shifting doesnt it? bowing in the dam deck and a spill gate was not properly aligned. But Stredwick thinks other parts of the dam will hold on, so theres that. Cause is what Im interested in

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Everything shifts…or expands and cracks are the results seen.

  • slayer454 slayer454

    This would be the perfect opportunity for the Hanford Nuclear dump to try and cover their mistakes, by blowing the dam. And I wouldn't be surprised if they did….Oooops did I say that out loud?

  • fredquimby fredquimby

    Hi Guys,

    A bit off topic, but only 9 comments here so I will ask anyway.

    I flew in 2012 with a geiger counter and counted 3.33mSV at cruising altitude. It was amazing (damn scary) to see it race up from 0.12 background reading as you take off. I subsequently contacted the Euro aviation authority to ask if that was normal, elevated since 2011, or what? Surprise, surprise, nobody could tell me anything and nobody was/is testing officially, or at least would admit to me that they were.

    Did anybody fly in Europe prior to 3/11 with a counter who remembers the readings? I am sure I remember 1.84 being the max on previous flights (I had a polimaster gieger watch for a while) but I'm not sure.

    Cheers!!

    Fred.

    • We Not They Finally

      fred, you need to look up Christina Consolo's recent interview with Alfre Weber about the increasing perils of flying due to radiation. She'll lay it out clearly for you. It may not be the answers you'd like to hear, but your questions will be answered and very well. It's definitely become unsafe but she will be very specific as to how and why.

      • fredquimby fredquimby

        Yeah, it's the gorilla in the fuku room for me πŸ™

        I managed to stay out of the rain for first year after 3/11 and I didn't fly for 12 months after either. I also bought a campervan so have been on terra firmer mostly this last year or two, but I need to fly again soon, unless I have a good reason/proof (more than my shiny hat) not too πŸ™‚

        Thanks for the tip. I will go check out Ms.Consolo.

        Fred.

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          Wear an anti radiation suit and some Japanese anti radiation underwear, on the outside, on the flight. You can bring some attention to the problem. It'll mess with the TSA though. They might fondle your lead underwear.

      • weeman

        I would like to point out that the air you breath in a airplane is bleed from the engines, so if the air has radioactive particles it will enter the cabin, I do not believe they have installed hepa filters in system.
        Before takeoff what was the level in plane, also the air in a building by law has to be changed 6 times a hour, in a plane this is not the case, why do you think when you fly if someone has a virus any virus, it spreads through the cabin and the exposure level will be high to virus.

        • Time Is Short Time Is Short

          An airplane is an aluminum tube. So, and correct me if I'm wrong, in addition to breathing in whatever is coming in through the air vents, everyone in that 'tube' is being bombarded with Bremsstrahlung radiation, for all the hours they are flying at altitude through high atmosphere (jetstream) radiation.

          As the radiation in the atmosphere increases, it becomes more lethal to fly.

    • chevvvy chev

      Hi fred, yea we know no one is testing, and I think this year will see an uptick in planes falling out of the sky, for no apparent reason.
      It also occured to me that all those aeroplanes must be getting hotter and hotter' from all that crap in the atmosphere.
      Gee Im glad the babalonians fly everywhere!!………sarc.. ;(

      • fredquimby fredquimby

        If I can't avoid flying in a month or so, I will take my Geiger up there with me and report back here if it has changed from 3.33

        Cheers

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Hotter and hotter? Do you think they get an octane boost from all that radioactive crap in the air? The SST will now get from New York to London in three seconds, ya think?

      • atomicistheword

        Chev..

        Can you imagine taking an inspector Geiger counter on a plane set on CPM audio and it goes BEEP, BEEP, BEEP. it would look like a Mel Brooks movie.

        That video said something about that Canadian singer guy that has really gone cloud cookoo. Thinks he's a gangster now!!! That radiation must have altered his brain, then again it could be something else?

        Oh well, who am I to judge?

      • gordon

        If accumulation is going on in airliners, it would show up in the engines first. At around 16,000 feet you need to have supplemental oxygen. On airliners, spending most of their time above 30,000 feet, they get around having to tank oxygen by using the engines to pump oxygen poor air into the cabin, pressurizing it. With the greater pressure there's a greater volume of air. There you have oxygen levels found at a few thousand feet.

        I think that isotopes binding to the aircraft would be easiest to see at the compressor inlets, behind the fan, and then in all the bleed air plumbing. I find it difficult to understand how airlines would not be screaming if their engines were all being destroyed, so I don't think it's going on.

        I've seen between 1.5 and 3 microsieverts flying in various places. Wearing an N95 and measuring it after a flight, I've never seen it accumulate, but have seen video evidence of others seeing such accumulation.

        I figure that's probably real given what's going on in Japan and how the emissions are being transported in the jet stream. Though I do wonder about why nobody is finding/complaining about contamination to these very expensive jet engines.

        • TruthSeeker TruthSeeker

          Hmmm, I wonder if these ionizing particles will have a greater effect on Boeings new 787 Dreamliner since it is made up of carbon fiber materials?

          • gordon

            Not to mention the A380. That's an interesting question because graphite and metals have a lot in common, like delocalized electrons flying around the macro-molecule overall. The isotopes and daughters are all different chemically. You would probably have to do half a dual major bachelor's in material science and physics to work it out. Still, I think that the carbon in those aircraft is structural and covered with paint. I would be looking at the metal in the engines and cabin air plumbing.

      • *We are currently compiling a list of plane crashes, as I was reminded and advised yesterday from a physicist that contacted me after the interview that discomposition of metals can be occurring from radiation bombardment, putting the integrity of plane structures and electrical components at risk. We will see what the data shows pre and post Fukushima. ” Ionization is the process in which a charged portion of a molecule (usually an electron) is given enough energy to break away from the atom. This process results in the formation of two charged particles or ions: the molecule with a net positive charge, and the free electron with a negative charge. Each ionization releases approximately 33 electron volts (eV) of energy. Material surrounding the atom absorbs the energy. Compared to other types of radiation that may be absorbed, ionizing radiation deposits a large amount of energy into a small area. In fact, the 33 eV from one ionization is more than enough energy to disrupt the chemical bond between two carbon atoms. All ionizing radiation is capable, directly or indirectly, of removing electrons from most molecules.” The Wigner effect (named for its discoverer, E. P. Wigner), also known as the discomposition effect, is the displacement of atoms in a solid caused by neutron radiation. Any solid can be affected by the Wigner effect, but the effect is of most concern in neutron moderators, such as graphite, that are used to slow down fast neutrons.

        • weeman

          I stand corrected, would that lead to a stress fracture and electrical faults.

          • gordon

            Yeah, it would be some evolving problem that is mysterious, but then figured out. Or it could be a fairly high-level manager that knows about the situation overall and investigates within his domain. Another thing that could happen is for contamination to be spotted when parts are taken out at time before overhaul schedules. Scrap is scanned for materials coming out of hospitals and what not… I'm sure I've read about bomb-grade uranium being picked out of scrap metal. Again, I don't know much about where that happens and it's difficult to imagine examination of scrap as being routine.

            Finally, you have the flight crews, people that fly all the time in general, and them getting sick. But that requires the attention of a sharp epidemiologist… it also requires a bit more time than has passed to that it's too obvious to be explained away.

            I used to like flying on regional jets. I take the train now. To me it's kind of obvious that being in a tube at high altitude with fallout that may be present, having that pressurized around you… better to catch up on the view from a train window.

    • Fukushima High Altitude Radiation Plume – Hundreds of Flight Attendants Suffer Hair Loss, Skin Lesions; via @AGreenRoad
      http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/05/fukushima-hundreds-of-flight-attendents.html

    • AT a pilot's blog I was sent recently, he has found 100 uSv/hr flying over the north pole.

      http://jetradjamesblog.wordpress.com/

  • fredquimby fredquimby

    "So we have a combined number of 6 documented cases of pilots involving 6 pilots passing out mid-flight since 2004, in the 7 years before 3/11, and 17 events involving 19 pilots in the past 3 years, post 3/11"

    Hmmmmm

    http://climateviewer.com/2014/02/28/airline-anomalies-post-fukushima-interview/

    • And that doesn't include the 11 f-22 pilots that passed out in the past 18 months. Pentagon investigation blamed it on their flight vests.

      If you include those, we have 28 cases involving 30 pilots post Fuku.

      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Oh Eyechix,

        Always good to know you are out there sluggin, kiddo.

        Good works as usual.

        One has to wonder what exactly happens when one of those pilots pass out. Does the plane auto fly, ya think?

        And yes, the ware and tear on everything is speeded up by the radiation. The whole A&P industry could be changed if the stress on the planes becomes a quickened process.

        Thank you for your good works.

        .

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Ok, we haven't been all blogging here all this time to forget the solution to this problem is …

    An ice wall! Then paint smiley faces on it.

    • bo bo

      It's 10:00am…already 5600 views on a tuesday. Keep plugging away everybody!!!

      • bo bo

        Oops that comment was supposed to go to the bottom of thread…
        I meant to comment here – I liked how you said the other day TEPCO meant to just build a 'nice wall' hee hee

        • GQR2

          bo i just got an a flash. Mabbe you could illustrate a book for the Women of Fukushima ? The ones over in the other thread. They could write it,and the project could be for the kids.
          For everybody. I bet it would be absolutely great. Historic if nothing else.
          Part acceptance of a new normal (for the kids sake) and part educational – these kids must have so many questions. Anyway its a thought and would probably give the Women of Fukushima a good thing to hold onto,in so far as anyone can hold onto anything these days. πŸ™‚
          probably best to answer in the off topic thread.
          Maybe a story told through animals? Maybe through kitchen furniture i don't know but it could be so cool.

          • unincredulous unincredulous

            In art class we painted old kitchen chairs with our choice of design. Then they auctioned the chairs for charity. Serious idea.

            Of course, I have to play with the idea…

            Nuclear plant blowing up in background. Kids running for their lives. Mouths open wide, screaming. Abe dressed up in black and white pin striped suite, pale face. Abe says, "It's normal kiddies, oh we are having such fun."

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          lattice probably—a proper "radiation wall."

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Does Hanford have enough sense to make sure their emergency generators are above dam break flood stage?

    Hanford employees better at least go to Walmart and buy some 12 volt batteries, cause management may be snorting too much cocaine to care…

    Are they sure that their relief valves will operate in a high pressure environment?

    Does any nuclear power company learn from industry mistakes?

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Why not modify existing power plant design so that high pressure would open a relief valve and the pressure would drive an emergency backup generator above and beyond the electrical generators? It could be a real brainstorm to have some gas – powered generators on hand, too.

    I am addressing the Brawndo generation of nuclear plant managets, it seems. We should all start considering that we may be the smartest people on earth. Who knows, one of us may end up being president.

    • weeman

      Presidents hands are tied, I don't want to be president, I want to be known as the great wee dictator the protector of the people, democracy is a farce, a bedtime story.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    http://earthfix.nwpr.org/energy/article/hanford-tanks-how-much-do-we-know/

    "Wyden was talking about the ongoing effort to cleanup underground tanks full of radioactive waste at Hanford. The site has been riddled with challenges: Whistleblowers, missed deadlines and aging, leaking tanks."

    Hey, whistleblowers rate right up there with "aging, leaking tanks."

    Whistleblowers everywhere rejoice!

  • GQR2

    By the weather maps it looks like a strong system is pummeling the area hopefully we get a weather report soon. I don't see this ending well at all. It is 92 feet thick,what does that do to the cables sunk in concrete anchors?
    Not an engineer don't think one has to be to see the calamity here at the Wanapum Dam. If the crack is under water, wouldn't the wall above it and the laws of gravity,motion whatever be pushing it to split wider exerting constant pressure?

    What parts of this dam did that guy "think" would hold up?
    Hanford 20 miles downstream,in a failure water would be there fast fast fast.
    This is like watching the sword of Damocles hanging by a hair.
    good morning lovely people.

    • jec jec

      Those cables are compromised as they were not set correctly. Likely have water ingress which can damage/weaken/rust steel. This in an official post from the previous blog posts. Can get the actual link, but basically, the top of the cables are set into the concrete at about the same level as the crack across the dam. Interesting its bowed out or bludging at the top..wonder if this is related. Is a big mess and made worse by the poor construction..contractor did not protect the steel cables..with the correct grouting..to keep water out. So if the cables had a function..they may not be dependable…

      • GQR2

        grout issues here too, oh boy howdy jec, just like at the Teton Dam which collapsed. Did the same companies do the work,or was it just a material this grout that they liked at the time i wonder…bad grout and huge fracture in dam. Anyone on fak-book,is the any buzz over this,are people getting the heck out of harms way yet??

        • jec jec

          "Each licensee hereunder shall be liable for all
          damages occasioned to the property of others by
          the construction, maintenance, or operation of the
          project works or of the works appurtenant or
          accessory thereto, constructed under the license
          and in no event shall the United States be liable
          therefore.” Guess insurance is important? And does the LICENSEE of Wanapum Dam have good insurance? For potential nuclear contamination cleanup? Or is that Hanford's 300M insurance requirement? With WIPP liablities then potential for Hanford's issues –will the 300M insurance + super fund have the needed $$? Just curious..

          From this document:
          https://www.ferc.gov/industries/hydropower/safety/wkshps/senior-leaders-workshop.pdf
          (a SAFETY and Lessons Learned PPT)

          There is one picture of a failed dam with a 72ft high concrete height, plus some other eye opening pictures of dams that have failed. There is a lot of power in water.Not to panic, but to show the strength of the flows.

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          The Tepco Dam … whoops… I mean..

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teton_Dam

          "The Teton Dam was an earthen dam in Idaho, United States […]

          "[…] The collapse of the dam resulted in the deaths of 11 people[4] and 13,000 head of cattle. The dam cost about $100 million to build, and the federal government paid over $300 million in claims related to its failure. Total damage estimates have ranged up to $2 billion.[5] The dam has not been rebuilt."

          Damn. I mean, #$#@&! Should be special set of characters for cussing in code.

  • jec jec

    And don't depend on Priest Rapids Dam..its not made to hold back water, or for storage. It is designed to slow the flow of fast water to protect the fish hatchery..Wonder what they are doing right now? Pictures anyone?

  • unincredulous unincredulous

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    Cesium———————————————————————————-
    Lies————————————————————————————
    Uranium———————————————————————————
    Strontium——————————————————————————-
    Tritium———————————————————————————
    Extinction——————————————————————————
    Radiation——————————————————————————-
    Fusion———————————————————————————-
    Unconscionable————————————————————————–
    Censored——————————————————————————–
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  • GQR2

    This is something they used on cracks before, seems like they are more interested in pimping the vender than the materials. "it seems like a long term solution" says the engineer. Wonder if the magic goo will work in this crack? The phone lines must be burning up. Was this first fix of the joints underwater. questions questions.
    Would filling a 65 ft long two inch wide crack under water if it could be done, does it even fix the problem,i'm thinking no because on the continued water pressure on the dam wall above it, that pressure could just reach beyond the crack and go farther into the 92ft dam wall?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kChG2KEdtdw

  • another night full of inconsistent and disturbing nightmares, but as I awoke I saw the familiar chem plume from a passing "plane" that told me the games continue apace.
    checkerboard skies and irradiated grounds, whistleblowers that will sue in compromised industry courts, aid packages to the ukraine of a billion "dollars" from a country that founders in muck created by the dollar store magicians called the fed.
    soon to be watching the chem plumes replaced by the mushroom clouds or can this seemingly inevitable march to oblivion be stopped and reversed? I grow weary of thinking of the impediments to prosperity and health that have been set upon us.
    the river isis will have her way, whether know as isis, diana or columbia she will win the war , battles are forgot, dams are broken, radiation and water and mud will the cover the past losses.
    handford and wipp and fuku, chernobyl, chelabynsk and sellafield too, all for the weapons of genocide and apocolypse.
    did we, as humans do this to ourselves? did we ?

  • Jebus Jebus

    A little info…

    WSDOT cam @ I90 Vantage, upstream from Wanapum.

    http://images.wsdot.wa.gov/i90/vantage/i90vantage_west.jpg

    Grant PUD pages.

    http://www.grantpud.org/your-pud/projects/wanapum-dam-hydro-complex

    Local News.

    Crack in Wanapum Dam triggers Flash Flood Watch

    http://www.nwcn.com/news/247961131.html

    Grant PUD evacuates boaters near Wanapum Dam

    http://www.columbiabasinherald.com/news/article_b4bb8ee6-a198-11e3-9b8d-0019bb2963f4.html

    • jec jec

      Jebus, chilling:
      "The district is notifying property owners on the Columbia River as part of its emergency action plan."

      "He said engineers noticed something unusual on the water level while doing routine inspections at the dam earlier in the week. After sending divers into the water, they learned that the crack, which spans the entire length of the dam, had formed about 70 feet under water."…

      Note 70 ft under water is about where the top of the cable anchors are located in the pilings. Pilings hold the spillways..they are critical for stability of the dam.

  • Freaking duh! drain the freakin damn dam

  • jec jec

    KEY INFO! Here are the engineering documents showing the placement of cables to hold the pilings in place:

    http://ussdams.com/proceedings/2011Proc/675-690.pdfin

    No only diagrams, but comments on CABLE CORROSION ISSUES!
    "Upon review of the original construction
    records, it was found that the first grout lift wa
    s not cleaned to remove latency prior to the
    installation of the second grout
    lift. This introduced the possibility of a path for moisture
    to the anchor tendons approximately
    40 feet below the base"
    Those who like diagrams and measurements.look at the figures in the document..and MEASURE down 70 ft..its the area where the cable tops are. The 'tendons' are 40 foot below the base..if they have failed…FLOP goes the top… (JEBUS this one is for you! )

    • jec jec

      From the document, Figure 2
      "Figure 2
      shows the PT anchor location and the zone that may
      be subject to corrosion. Without means to verify the condition of th
      e anchors…"
      What is not clear is what was done to infill and stablize for the potential breakage….

    • GQR2

      the link is not working jec. could you give it another try thx.

    • Jebus Jebus

      But I dont wanna build an ark! Besides, they say the rest of the dam won't tip over.

      http://ussdams.com/proceedings/2011Proc/675-690.pdf

      • jec jec

        But they KNEW in 2008 they had underestimated the forces…..see above. Jebus..maybe you need scuba gear…

        • jec jec

          From the document, they are only underestimated by a factor of 40 to 50%..good enuf for government work??

          "Stability analysis results for the PMF base
          d on CFD pressures for the Wanapum spillway
          indicate that the conventional stability anal
          ysis approach may underestimate the sliding
          safety factor by 40 to 50% for the monolith alone"

        • Jebus Jebus

          That's exactly why I said that all these "new" infrastructure "revelations" are flying tennis balls to a terrier, distracting you from the most horrendous human and ecological disaster the world has ever seen.

          Fukushima.

          This ain't your daddys meltdown.

          The only thing worse than 4 full meltdowns on the beach, would be if Dr. Strangelove came flying in…

          • GQR2

            we might have to multi task πŸ™

            • GQR2

              jebus man,These people could be on fire and they would say
              no imminent danger
              Have there been any more booms from the military exercises?
              Sparky ( i think)had some references to a joint exercise with the Japanese near by, the residents heard booms
              One would hope they stopped – maybe the rain has stopped them.

            • unincredulous unincredulous

              I do that when I get very sick.

          • Jebus Jebus

            Oh ya, I forgot, there's this.

            It's a huge one page pdf.

            24 megs. Let it load. Save it.

            You'll get the point…

            http://pubs.usgs.gov/sim/3212/sim3212_sheet.pdf

            • GQR2

              i don't know if i do get the point. Where on that diagram is the dam placed. I can see the slope and the dip in the land underground. The whole thing looks very dynamic with a great potential to move.

              • GQR2

                it also incredibly porous looking ground. Oh the mud with this. Holy smokes…. if/when it goes.

              • Jebus Jebus

                Full screen it after downloading. Now hit the plus sign and enlarge it to read. The resolution is massive. Lower rt. hand map shows the study area in relation to wanapum and priest rapids. Here's the title of the report.

                Paleoseismology of a Newly Discovered Scarp in the Yakima Fold-and-Thrust Belt, Kittitas County, Washington
                By
                Elizabeth A. Barnett,1 Brian L. Sherrod,1 Robert Norris,1 and Douglas Gibbons2
                2013

                • GQR2

                  Thank you very much diligent as all get out Jebus, Its a eye opening report you dug up.
                  Which i will totally dig into later.
                  Its the stuff of nightmares,and the reality is actually worse. sigh.
                  carry on!! πŸ™‚ – regrettably i've gotta go,sally forth into town about now.
                  always interesting. bbl. πŸ™‚

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  A fault scarp is where one side of a fault has moved vertically with respect to another…. displacement of the land surface by movement along faults. Yessir, when the ground moves, no cables or concrete can keep it from happening

          • Such a pity neither Dr. Strangelove nor Edward Teller can be here with us to finally watch their beloved doomsday machine in all its glory, working precisely as expected. Fukushima – the *ultimate* masterpiece of engineering art..

          • Slim Pickens isn't riding this one in.. so nobody seems to see or hear it…

            Yippy Ki'AAAAAAA

            • Indeed. Moral of the story ?

              NPPs are more effective when used as weapons of mass destruction, while H-bombs are more fun to ride.

              It's often hard to make a choice if there are several coequal options…

    • jec jec

      So, because of the probable cable corrorsion (wonder what contractor is going to be billed for not following instructions..but that was in the 50s..) they placed concrete to overcome the stress on the piling and spillways, this was called INFILL, and was completed. The dam (heh heh ) management then continued with "Stability Monitoring"
      Remotely activated drain pressure monito
      ring instrumentation was installed by the
      District in April 2009… used to track relative movement
      between each of the FUIs, and the spillway
      and FUI 11 Fish-by-Pass monoliths. " And this did NOT pick up the crack going 65ft across the dam, 70 ft underway..TWO INCHES in width? It must have been on the storage side..as divers had to check it. So on the downstream side..is there a sign of a crack or two? Also, the Infill project drilled in multiple steel cable toggles into the face of the dam..back past the end of the top of the compromised cables. Will do a diagram, with credits of course to the organization/paper to show the areas…Just for documentation.

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Question ? @stock ?
    Will continued increases of radiation eventually effect our electrical grid ( computers , damage )
    As say EMPS
    Sorry in advance if this is stupid , I am not a scientist .

    • I don't know if you realize or understand this…

      But EVERY Telephone POLE FIRE.. with wires melting and shorting and exploding transformer incidents… and failed power stations at NPP's… it's all a part & parcel of our now nuclear-charged air. Take a good long look at Bartol readings since Fuku..

      So, your computer may get shorted in the future, some cases may vary, no refunds or repairs are paid for by your local nuclear chief-criminals.

      We can not confirm, nor denied that this is an on-going problem, but we will lower all standards so we don't even need to respond to your inquiries, complaints, or failing health as a result.

      Have a NUCLEAR-Great day now..!!

  • Nick

    Maybe heavy water is increasing the pressures behind dams all over the planet?

    πŸ™‚

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Really, we don't know what we are dealing with. What if someone accidentally splits the MASTER atom. And all the other atoms surrender?

  • If the crack spans the whole monolith, it's actually not a monolith any more – it's two monoliths (or a duolith, at most).

    Everybody seems to be splitty these days:
    – splitting atoms
    – splitting monoliths
    – splitting society
    – splitting Ukraine
    – …

  • cooterboy

    Wanapum Dam is akin to Fukushima in the engineering aspects of the structure.

    Cracks of this nature, that were discovered in the Wanapum, was not suppose to happen. This dam was built with the best engineering standards and exceeded all parameters of sound building practices.

    What is occurring is the fact that this could not happen. Well it did and in a big way and the PUD doesn't have a clue of what to do. A 2+ inch crack means all the mechanical bonds, rebar and shebolts, have sheared off and internal mechanical bonds (rebar) have stretched and are compromised and far reaching past the 64 ft. crack. This crack is really over 2 hundred feet long but you can't see it.

    The idea that this crack doesn't go all the way through the dam is sheer nonsense. It does. The downstream face is under tension and the upstream face is in compression. The most frightful concern is that it is below the water line where the concrete is the thickest and strongest and goes through a support column.

    Soon all the dams upstream will be drawing down their water levels in preparation for the spring thaw. Dam operators have no choice. This added volume and pressure on the Wanapum Dam could spell it's fate.

    In the end nobody though this type of accident could happen. This is the arrogance of science and proof that the fallacies of logic can and are coming true.

    Aces and eights.

    Peace,

    • Somebody should call GE and ask if some of their engineers were involved in that *rock-solid* dam(n) design.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Correct! πŸ™‚

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      cooterboy, good point…

      It seems though that history is stuck on repeat. The Titanic was unsinkable, The Hindenburg was safe flying with highly flammable gas, Pinto gas tanks (I had to throw that in), BPA plastic is safe.(that is a big killer no one talks about) GMO foods, Nuclear Plants, Nuclear waste sites.

      The commonality between all these is that profits came before safety.

      • Now that is such an unreflected and generalized view ! How dare you putting the jobs of thoundands of righteous people in nuclear, chemical and food industry at risk by publishing such unjustified and untenable allegations ! And think of the billions upon billions of dollars these corparations paid in taxes year after year to finance your personal wealth and comfort ! Shame on you !

  • sworldpeas

    The clusterfuck stage
    A shill shat in my wheaties
    Thinks crack should be safe

  • cooterboy

    KREM newsroom, Spokane, 1 hr ago states:

    "As of Monday, the crack had closed by nearly an inch, and the damaged section of the spillway monolith moved back upstream by approximately 1 inch. Officials said the measurements confirmed that the section was becoming more stable as a result of lowering the water level behind the dam."

    http://www.krem.com/news/Wanapum-Dam-stabilizing-following-drawdown-248401391.html

    According to this article the concrete has now moved upriver and closed the previous gap of 2+ inches down to 1". This is the biggest cart load of crap I have ever heard.

    They want us to believe, by a miracle of god, that concrete can actually move back into position like it was a rubber band. This is physically impossible. Rigid oncrete doesn't work like that. In this case, the top of the dam moved because the "roadway curbs showed a bend".

    When your concrete sidewalk buckles because of a frost heave, I have to ask you when the frost is gone does it go back down?

    Answer to all of the above is NO.

    I'm going into Spokane in a few hours and will stop by KREM studios and ask for their sources relating to this article. This should be fun.

    Peace,

    • jec jec

      Hey, Cooter Boy, grab the aboave documents on stability and INFILL repairs OR point them to ENENEWS articles. Can they operate the dam safely and KEEP the water lower forever? It just means the structure is NOT stable..its FLEXING based on water pressure and flow. GEE..are there ever storms or water melts that could suddenly RAISE the water levels there..

      Can you say stupid??

      • cooterboy

        jec,

        The turbines are located at the other end of the dam and as with any dam they need sufficient head water to operate at full capacity. This would hinder the ability to generate power.

        The Columbia River drainage is huge encompassing 7 states and BC. In my lifetime there has been no major flooding of the river. Upstream, above Grand Coulee Dam, there is river flooding all the time but Grand Coulee Dam, which backs up water covering 80,000 acres a distance of 150 miles, can moderate this flow and Wanapum is in no danger from this happening.

        Even if this spillway were to fail the only thing that would happen is a loss of water. The rest of the dam would not be affected. The power houses are huge concrete structures and wouldn't be affected. Our beloved salmon would like to see this river return to it's natural state.

        KREM got their information for this article from the Public Utility District, listed below.

        http://www.grantpud.org/your-pud/media-room/news

        Concrete dams aren't suppose to flex. A concrete dam is built such that the forces applied to it reach a state of equilibrium with the dam being designed to overcome this state of flux.

        Concrete can flex if you use "post tension concrete", which is a system of engineered construction that is dynamic. Concrete in and of it's self is static, meaning it doesn't like to bend or rotate. Dams are built like this, they are static.

        Looks like we have a public works project in our future…

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      cooter, concrete is flexible and could move back like a rubber band, if it was still in the linear part of the stress strain curve.

      The cause may be the Yakima folds along the OWL fault system. These are moving at a rate of <1mm /year, but as high as 10mm. There are earthquakes averaging every 5000 years, but recent seismic activity has been recorded.

      tectonic stress Yakima folds Some tectonic deformation
      and strain release may be distributed aseismically
      throughout the rock column

      http://www.pnnl.gov/main/publications/external/technical_reports/PNNL-17497.pdf

      these faults are associated with a major strike-slip fault system.

      A new paper by Sherrod and Richard Blakely highlights compelling new evidence that the Yakima Fold and Thrust belt may be much more seismically active than thought. If true, these findings could reshape assumptions used in assessments of nuclear safety

      The first seismic monitors were installed at Hanford in 1969. The largest quake they've ever recorded was a 3.8 (the most recent quake detected in the region was a magnitude 3.3 shaker just east of Hanford on April 29)

      http://www.king5.com/news/quake/Research-Seismic-Knowledge-Near-Nuclear-Plant-122069809.html

      http://www.whitman.edu/environmental_studies/WWRB/earthquakes_files/earthquakes.htm

      • cooterboy

        Code..

        You are correct to say that concrete is flexible but it needs to be in the context of it's application, in this case a dam.

        As an example. Built a concrete square tube 12"x12" by 10ft. long and try and bend it. This tube will break before it bends. Now build one 200 ft long. You could probably bend or flex it 3-4 inches and it wouldn't break nor deform.

        If the Wanapum Dam crack in the concrete did move back 50% from it's imposed load of water, that was released, then this crack is through and through the dam. Front to back.

        I don't know where this crack is in relation to the top of the dam. If this crack is at the bottom of the dam and it's relationship to the spillway flip lip and settling pool is such that it might not be that big of a deal. On the other hand your notion that the ground has moved is of great concern. If they find that the ground did move then game over for the dam.

        Thanks for the links.

        Peace,

  • cooterboy

    Footnote;

    In the picture you can see white water flowing downstream where the dam makes a bend. This is an overflow spillway. The towers in the foreground buttress the spillway tainter gates. Notice that all the gates are closed and there is no disturbance in the water below

    EXCEPT: the middle gate. This is where the crack is located as you can see white water below it.

    Peace,

  • Sparky Sparky

    NSA Closed "Listening Center" located at military Yakima Training Center year:
    http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020713369_listeningpostxml.html

  • Nick

    Crackotoa

    Dam IF I Know.

    Spillway to Fission

    The Cracks of Fracture…..

    Dam!

  • Fred

    I don't understand why these govt-funded projects just fall apart. They're made by the cheapest contractor who underbid the project by $25M and cut every corner he could to try and make his corporation a profit. Doesn't matter if its a roll of toilet paper for the 2nd deck head on an aircraft carrier, a space shuttle solid rocket booster or this damned dam. We got EXACTLY what we paid for that put the contractor out of business as soon as the project cut that last check…so nobody's to blame. We never learn! Pick the road between your home and your work. See what the lowest bidder can do for YOU? Duhhhh….

    I have a friend who supervises large commercial construction projects for some billionaires. He knows exactly who can do the best job at a reasonable profit on a 42 story office building at that location with skill, knowledge and experience. Screw him ONCE and you'll never build anything else for them, no exceptions. The contractors all know what he expects of them and no bidding to see who has the cheapest concrete, this week, is done. 30 years later, no floors are cracked, no foundations falling apart, nothing needs to be done but pressure wash it to make it look like the day he had it built. His boss rarely questions why he hired X at 16% more than Y to build the next one. If something's not right, no court is needed to get it replaced, not patched, to make it right because that contractor wants to continue working for that extra 16% forever. It…

  • Max Sievert Max Sievert

    Nuclear Event in USA on Tuesday, 04 March, 2014 at 04:02
    Beaver Valley Nuclear Power Station , State of Pennsylvania
    An unusual event – the lowest of emergency classifications used by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission – was declared Sunday at the Beaver Valley Nuclear Power Station, officials said Monday. "The unusual event declaration was in response to a fire alarm going off in the plant’s containment building, which is the structure that surrounds the reactor," NRC spokesman Neil Sheehan said Monday. "Criteria for an Unusual Event include a fire on-site that lasts for greater than 15 minutes. The declaration was made because a fire could not be immediately ruled out until the containment building interior was checked," he said. However, Sheehan said that once plant personnel were able to enter Unit 1’s containment building, they determined that there was no fire. "Once plant personnel were able to enter the building, they determined that the alarm was likely caused by a relief valve spuriously lifting when an accumulator tank was being filled," he said. "Accumulator tanks hold water and are connected to the plant’s reactor coolant system. The moisture resulting from that relief valve lifting is suspected as the source of the alarm." FirstEnergy officials said Monday that at the time of the incident, they believed a fire was unlikely, but the unusual event was declared per the plant's emergency plan. …
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index

  • jec jec

    The issue with the Wamapam Dam potential failure is really the issue with Hanford located down stream and what the flood water could do. EVEN if not a flooding event..it could be a bank cutting event..washing away the river banks that protect Hanford areas from groundwater/river. So while the documents found are helpful to explain issues, the BIG issue(s) is/are the nuclear waste MESS at Hanford!

  • RonM RonM

    The Dam was just trying to smile, or "crack" a smile this way it wouldn't effect or be effected by any Radioctivity, πŸ™‚

    If everyone on the planet could just smile at the same instant maybe all of the Radioactive isotopes would completely decay and we would have no more radioactive waste! πŸ™‚

    yes smiling is the way to neutralize all of this stupid Radioactivity! πŸ™‚

    That Japanese politician who discovered this magical cure and protective measure should be awarded a Nobel Prize!

    πŸ™‚

    Who would of ever thought that a smile was such a potent protective action against Radioactivity! πŸ™‚

    So Smile everybody πŸ™‚

    :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

  • RonM RonM

    πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

  • kaygee1 kaygee1

    Why don't they lower the water level with a controlled release and take the pressure off the dam? Then figure how to fix it when danger is low?

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