NRC: There’s got to be fission products or pellets in parking lot outside Fukushima plant

Published: March 5th, 2012 at 10:58 am ET
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Title: Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s Fukushima Transcripts
Date: March 17, 2011
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MALE PARTICIPANT: Chuck and John, what was the basis, John, for your statement at — that you believe there are spent fuel pellets on the ground of the property?

JOHN: Because they gave us the dose rates of, what, 20 to 30 rem per hour? And they said, you know, the dose rates go down 70 percent when they bulldoze the –

MALE PARTICIPANT: Debris.

JOHN: — debris out of the way. Well, you don’t get 20 rem from contamination on the side of the spent fuel pool. It’s got to be fission product. I mean, you know, you have — so how did the explosion occur? The spent fuel pool had to be at least 20 percent, 10 percent level, whatever. You had a significant zirc oxide reaction, all of these — all this hydrogen, and a massive explosion. And what’s right below the explosion? There’s no body of water. You’ve just got all of that spent fuel pool that’s, you know, 2,000 degrees plus just baking there. I mean, you know, how can you think you’d blow apart, you know, girders and seals and everything else, and these little delicate spent fuel bundles that are 2,000-plus degrees are going to stay intact? I mean, that doesn’t make sense. You blow out concrete walls and beams, and the structure of the building is blown up. You’ve seen images.

MALE PARTICIPANT: Yeah, yeah. I mean –

MALE PARTICIPANT: No, I’ve seen those images. I mean, I guess I was just asking — that’s more your logic than something that you’ve been told by anybody else.

JOHN: They haven’t said it’s fission products or pellets in the parking lot. But, I mean, it’s got to be.

MALE PARTICIPANT: The purpose of the bulldozing, is that — I don’t understand. Is that just to reduce the radiation, or are they –

JOHN: Well, they –

MALE PARTICIPANT: They want to get the riot truck in there.

MALE PARTICIPANT: Yes.

MALE PARTICIPANT: Oh, okay.

JOHN: Well, they say it’s to clear the debris, so they can get the fire trucks, the riot trucks, the water trucks, et cetera. I think it’s — some of it is debris, but I think it’s to significantly move the dose out of the way.

MALE PARTICIPANT: Right.

JOHN: Move the fission products, move the pellets, move whatever.

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