NRC Email: Fukushima ‘evacuations’ being reported by media are actually ‘relocations’

Published: January 1st, 2012 at 10:16 am ET
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April 17th, 2011 – Evacuations mentioned by IAEA and MSM are really relocations, Enformable, Dec 29, 2011:

From: Franovich, Mike
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 1:17 AM
To: Ostendorff, William
Cc: Nieh, Ho; Kock, Andrea; Zorn, Jason
Subject: IAEA distributed document 4-17-11
Attachments: Summaryofreactorunitstatus at_17-AprilOOOOUTC.pdf

Attached is the latest IAEA report which is quite comprehensive. Some items to note from the report:

[...]

Some relocations of residents beyond 20 km due to assessment of long-term exposure. This is being reported as “evacuations” in the IAEA report and in the media when they are really relocations based on PARs and local dose assessment.

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53 comments to NRC Email: Fukushima ‘evacuations’ being reported by media are actually ‘relocations’

  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    I believe the term “PARs” means Protective Action Recommendations.
    example:
    http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehp/rp/rep/parrev9.pdf


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  • arclight arclight

    from the article

    “On April 16 th, restrictions were lifted on the distribution of raw milk produced in 24 areas in Fukushima prefecture.”

    shouldnt they have waited till the iodine had broken down? 90 days.. thats all!! simple procedure (not followed in europe and north america either!!

    cesium in childrens urine in tokyo.probaly from food according to the latest ACRO report.. i wonder…..


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Where did you find the ARCO report? Thanks.


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    • VanneV anne

      @JoyB. Sorry, there is no room to respond elsewhere to the damage of external radiation. Please see this website’s thread
      FORUM: Effects of low level radiation


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      • VanneV anne

        Gamma Ray

        “The gamma radiation is the most dangerous form of radiation emitted by a nuclear explosion because of the difficulty in stopping it. Gamma radiation is not stopped by the skin.

        “It can induce DNA alteration by interfering with the genetic material of the cell. DNA double-strand breaks are generally accepted to be the most biologically significant lesion by which ionizing radiation causes cancer and hereditary disease.[1].

        “A study done on Russian nuclear workers exposed to external whole-body gamma radiation at high cumulative doses shows the link between radiation exposure and death from leukemia, lung, liver, skeletal and other solid cancers.[2].
        “In combination with a thermal burn, gamma rays c
        an reinforce the damage of thermal burn injuries and induce an immunosuppressive effect.[3][4…”
        http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Gamma_ray


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      • VanneV anne

        What is alpha, beta, gamma and X-ray radiation?
        “Alpha, beta, gamma and X-ray radiation are types of ionizing radiation. Ionizing radiation are particles or electromagnetic waves that have sufficient energy to strip an atom of an electron (or electrons). It is invisible and not directly detectable by human senses, so instruments such as geiger counters are usually required to detect its presence.

        “Alpha radiation is an energetic free particle, a helium-4 nucleus. External alpha radiation is not harmful since alpha particles are shielded by a few inches of air, a piece of paper or a thin layer of dead skin cells. If ingested however an alpha radiation source can be harmful.

        “Beta radiation is also a particle, an energetic free electron. Both external and internal beta radiation can be harmful.

        “Gamma and X-ray radiation are electromagnetic waves of high frequency (very short wavelength). Gamma rays have frequencies above exahertz ( > 1018 Hz), and therefore have energies above 100 keV and wavelength less than 10 picometers, less than the diameter of an atom. Gamma rays from radioactive decay commonly have energies of a few hundred keV, and almost always less than 10 MeV. The key distinction between X-rays and gamma rays is X-rays are emitted by electrons outside the nucleus, while gamma rays are emitted by the nucleus. Both internal and external gamma or X-ray radiation are harmful.”
        http://www.gammascout.com/learningcenter-faqs.html


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  • aigeezer aigeezer

    They are advancing to the rear.

    “evacuations”, “relocations”. Meh – a debate for bureaucrats. Are they sick? Are they dying? What has happened in their lives? What will happen in their future?

    Spin, spin, spin.


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  • arclight arclight

    whats the legal spin here?
    if these statistics become different statistics.. they can legally challenge tepcoyakusagovernment in the courts. what sort of statistic situation would help the refugives, past, present and future Internally Displaced Persons

    Internally Displaced Persons: Guide to Legal Information Resources on the Web repost

    By Elisa Mason
    August 2011*

    “According to the United Nations, internally displaced persons (IDPs) are “persons or groups of persons who have been forced or obliged to flee or to leave their homes or places of habitual residence, in particular as a result of or in order to avoid the effects of armed conflict, situations of generalized violence, violations of human rights or natural or human-made disasters, and who have not crossed an internationally recognized State border” (Guiding Principles on Internal Displacement, 1998, Introduction, para. 2).

    Because the flight described in the definition is internal, national authorities are responsible for providing protection to people displaced in their own countries. However, over time the humanitarian community has come to recognize that IDPs “are often in need of special protection, not least because the government responsible for protecting them is sometimes unwilling or unable to do so, or may itself be the cause of displacement (Brun 2005, 3).

    http://fm-cab.blogspot.com/p/idps.html

    so the stakes are high for the 1001 dodgy lawyers! they must stop this using ADK and the yakusa.. nice to see those two in the same sentnce too!! :)


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  • arclight arclight

    Gov’t wants to buy abandoned Fukushima land to store radioactive waste
    National Dec. 29, 2011

    The facilities, which would have concrete walls, will be used to store containers of contaminated soil and radioactive waste from the no-go zone and other areas in and around Fukushima Prefecture.

    The waste will initially be stored for three years in short-term repositories while the government constructs bigger facilities for storage over a 30-year period.

    Hosono said he envisioned the biggest facility would cover an area of 5 square kilometers and be able to hold up to 28 million cubic meters of waste.”

    http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/govt-wants-to-buy-abandoned-fukushima-land-to-store-radioactive-waste

    move the waste in to contaminated regions and the people out!


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    • James2

      Well, it only took six months to get this idea to the forefront. Build a mountain over that place.

      Truck in every piece of rubble from the earthquake and tsunami that you can find and bury it a kilometer deep. Also fill in the ocean for a kilomter out to sea.. It’ll still be uninhabitable, and the mountain will stay hot for a thousand years, but at least it will allow the thing to cool down without spewing radiation continuously.

      If they would have started this six months ago, the danger would largely be over now.


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      • Don’t know if anyone there is on top of long-term, but eventually – 5 years, 10 – they will have entombed much of the Daiichi mess (they won’t be recovering anything). Concrete lined pits for contaminated debris could be a reasonable idea. Once the spewing stops or slows to where it’s mostly falling out close-in, a certain level of remediation can be started. The 20 km (and out to 60 along plume paths) will probably be a dead zone FAPP forever – no crops or livestock for as far into the future as anybody cares to look.

        Some years down the line an incinerator could be built that boasts some filters that use designed resins (like those in the demin/polishers, but for air) that would make incineration much less objectionable. They’d have to design it from scratch, but there’s plenty of engineers worldwide who would help. No huge hurry. Then the permanent repository would only have to handle the concentrated waste as ash/sludge (and could take the accumulated ash/sludge waste from Tokyo and other cities farther downstream). Would concentrate and isolate the worst of it, that isn’t hopelessly into the earth itself by now.

        Health effects will certainly take their toll in two current generations (and well into the next couple), but it won’t wipe out Japan if they can get the bulk of it isolated and manage the dead zone. Best outcome they can hope for now that it’s out and being shared freely throughout the island. But they didn’t have to start this six months ago, don’t have to start it six months from now. There can be no hurry while it’s still spewing, they need to get control of that first or it’s pointless – just increases exposures in those who try.


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        • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

          Hi JoyB, I wonder if it will be possible to contain nuclear waste down in the earth in an seismic active zone. I mean, it even seems impossible in inactive areas (inactive during this century, one must add).
          Also, we’re talking about tons and tons and tons of stuff, ashes, rubble, soil, etc. . I’m afraid there won’t be enough space anywhere.
          I think they will take lots of time thinking about this – simply because there’s no adequate technology available.

          *and probably never will be, methinks


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          • Ultimately they’re going to have to “store” the corium flows in the ground, because that’s where most of it is. Unit-3 appears to have a flow exiting the basement into one of those connecting trenches (I figured that would most likely happen at u2, but it’s not over yet). Corium open to the atmosphere is scary-scary… give the workers a week off. Corium that’s in the ground is about as well shielded as it’s going to get, minus the melt-hole. Into which they keep pumping water, flashing it to hydrogen/oxygen and steam on the presented corium mass surface, which sparks flash fission and reheats the mass below to keep on melting farther into the rock. “Feed and Bleed” (invented at TMI-2, btw) has never been the best way to try and manage this mass meltdown, but it’s all they know to do.

            The ground is badly fractured. That means viscous corium will likely separate off the main flows to travel into the spaces (least resistance). Where it’s been encountering groundwater and basement leakage for some months now. But in the end, separating some peripheral flows off the main mass (full cores’ worth – like 70-120 tons’ worth plus melt inclusions) is a lesser of evils. It will lead to the smaller flows reaching a non-active melt state sooner… it”’ freeze in place. Still technically molten for God knows how many years, but not hot enough to actively melt into bedrock any longer. At that point they can entomb it, and cover all the fissures into which it’s flowed. Hopefully before it reaches the cliff – if not, they’re going to need some clever barriers they don’t seem to have built yet.

            At any rate, corium in the ground is less immediately deadly than corium flowing through a ditch in the open.


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            • HamburgGeiger

              Hi JoyB,

              the ground at Fukushima is so porous, I don`t know if it is much of a difference.

              Regarding the “freezing” of that corium please remember the condition the “blob” in Chernobyl is in. It “freezed”, too, but it changes its condition over the years because it stays active. It not only becomes more and more radioavtive with time but it even can melt again or change its phase to gas, etc. It is not that easy.


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              • Last I checked, the ‘elephant’s foot’ formation is still technically molten, and it’s been 25 years. It’s just not hot enough to further melt into the bedrock (lower portion is an estimated 9 feet into granite). As a techno-element of varying composition, corium is weird stuff. The Chernobyl flow that hit water in the basement shattered into lots of ~fist-sized fragments (and caused a hell of a steam explosion), did solidify because the pieces were small. Has the texture of pumice.

                Now, all of the corium flows at Chernobyl were far less massive than any one of the corium flows at Fukushima. And unit-3′s corium has significantly more plutonium than the others (which still have quite a bit). Might be more viscous than the flow at unit-2 that first threatened to exit via a trench. I think that one’s face became too diluted to move further in that direction. God only knows where the rest of the corium is. Recall that a bit over 1/3 of Chernobyl’s core melted (a phase transition that took all of 90 seconds). Here we’ve got three full cores and assorted minor ones from relatively newer ejected spent fuel assemblies in the rubble (probably not still actively flowing).

                The min Chernobyl corium formations turn to something akin to tree bark on the surface, and flake off readily from surface disintegrations. Then fresher fuel is on the surface and proceeds to undergo the same process. At Fukushima they’ve got a hit-or-miss system of occasional hit to the exposed surface with water. That does what I described above, and likely produces that pumice-like ‘rubble’ to be left behind. These masses have been surprisingly slow to reach water table, I’d have predicted that within 3 months. So the fracturing of the ground has probably slowed it down quite a bit so far. A “lucky” coincidence (if anything here could be considered ‘lucky’)? We shall see, and they aren’t likely to tell us the truth in any case.


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              • And that while the corium remains ridiculously radioactive – supporting all sorts of fast fission events and product decay (enhanced by the hot environment), having it freeze in place is a good thing. Whenever it happens, along any of the flows and sub-flows. It will remain ridiculously radioactive forever, for all practical purposes [FAPP]. The earth provides excellent shielding for such a horror. When it freezes, they can then seal the outlets and leave it be. They’ll have to seal the cliff too, sooner rather than later.

                Gas fission products are inevitable from now until Kingdom Come. Management (via installed vents) of everything that’s not a noble can be engineered.


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                • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                  @JoyB: your analysis is brilliant. I hope ‘others’ consider your suggestions…


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                • VanneV anne

                  Unfortunately, given the geologic structure under the reactors and turbine buildings, it is all going into the ocean and groundwater. Under the reactors is porous sedimentary rock and under the turbine buildings is landfill.


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                • Bobby1

                  There is no point in speculating about corium freezing in place, as long as re-criticalities occur and it heats up again. As long as iodine-131 keeps getting emitted, there is no basis for believing it will freeze. We don’t know how long this will go on, centuries, or even longer.


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                  • There are enough uranium-235 and plutonium-239 atoms in the coriums to keep producing iodine (and all those other fission products) essentially forever from spontaneous fission events. Not to mention flash fission on the presented surface whenever water hits it. But eventually it will be so diluted by extraneous matter and “fissioned-out” – depleted fissionable isotopes – that it won’t be able to sustain a fission reaction long enough to reheat the mass high enough to keep on melting whatever it’s in contact with. Really. They were never going to get all the way to New Jersey.

                    Once they aren’t actively melting whatever they’re in contact with, the flows can be isolated, even if the bulk of the masses never actually solidify.


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                    • Bobby1

                      When the fuel melted down, it melted down the control rods with it. That means there are blobs of control rod material, silver, cadmium, and indium inside the corium.

                      Until a few months ago, there were regular re-criticalities every couple of weeks. The iodine would decay away and drop off, then more iodine would come out, but it was trending lower and lower until it was nondetectable.

                      Something happened in October. Radioactive silver has been detected in spiders in Japanese forests, bioaccumulating. That silver used to be in the control rods, and in the corium, it’s not there any more.

                      My theory is, as the control rod materials are emitted, they are no longer there to control nuclear reactions. It will be getting hotter instead of cooler. The amount of iodine emitted will increase rather than decrease, and this will cause a global pandemic of thyroid cancer.

                      Plus as the corium heats up, it will burn downwards faster & take less time to come into contact with groundwater, possibly causing hydrovolcanic explosions.


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                  • I believe that Fukushima is completely of out of control and I doubt anyone is left at the plant.

                    The radiation readings in California (in places still reporting) are really, really high.

                    The situation is escalating, I am convinced with Bobby1 on this.

                    I am really depressed. I’m in this terrible nightmare: on our days of radiation highs everyone is out enjoying the great weather.

                    I feel like I don’t know what is real anymore…simultaneously, I’m terrified that Tacoma’s rants might be in the general ballpark if something isn’t done to contain this monster…


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                    • If the ground under Daiichi is as fractured and/or ‘porous’ as has been suggested, corium-groundwater encounters probably won’t cause hydrovolcanic explosions – too many pressure outlets. Instead, you’d get boiling water/steam venting from the ground like Yellowstone. Which have been reported by workers at Daiichi since last summer.

                      That will of course release more to atmosphere and ocean, including quite a lot of fission products as surfaces of the corium that haven’t been regularly splashed with water from down the melt-holes hit water. But so long as they don’t try to ‘entomb’ the ground and cut off the pressure outlets, it won’t explode spectacularly.

                      Levels in my mountain cove have been periodically high (up to 1.5-2 mr/hr), more in the rain. Then it goes back to background rather quickly, the mountains tend to raise air which then falls on the piedmont side and slams places like Charlotte and Raleigh/Chapel Hill (EPA’s shut off their monitors fairly regularly).

                      I’m 60 years old, not terribly worried about external exposure, did trash last spring’s greens crops without eating for fear of internal exposure. Don’t eat high on the food chain, but greens are notorious concentrators of iodine, strontium and cesium. Worry about my grandchildren in far flung places, but levels in this country are nowhere near what they were when I was a kid and mud puddles in certain places were up to 10 rem per hour. No one can predict individual cellular damage from radiation. But some people live through lots, and some people die of little. Going to the doctor regularly will up your cumulative dose drastically, they’re inordinately fond of all things nuclear.


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                    • VanneV anne

                      @JoyB,
                      Radiation is commulative and internal exposure, inhaling and ingesting, is much worse. So just a little may be the tipping point. You can tell the doctor you won’t accept nuclear options. But you can’t avoid what you breathe.


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                    • That’s most certainly true, Anne. External exposure (gamma) isn’t cumulative, it’s acute – goes right on through. The damage it does as it goes on through is the damage it does. Each ionization event presents a different danger, to the cell in which it happened. Which may repair itself, may commit hari-kari, or may turn cancerous.

                      Internal exposures are cumulative, adding up to body burdens. Isotopes like to seek out friendly organs too. Contamination from nuclear sources can be as damaging and ultimately deadly over time as any other industrial toxin we release wholesale into the air and water of our precious environment.

                      Just remember that chronic low-level exposures are entirely unpredictable per health effects in a population except statistically. As is “5-10 cancers per 100,000″ or such. Any two humans of equal body size and health can differ greatly in their response to a given dose. That’s why there’s an “LD50″ – an acute dose where half of the exposed will die. Strangely, the other half won’t. Go figure.

                      Fukushima is definitely an EXCELLENT reason for the people to rise up and demand that this insanity be stopped, immediately. Nukes are nowhere near “clean, safe and too cheap to meter” as we’ve been propagandized for half a century. But in the final accounting, the vast majority are going to die of something else entirely.


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                    • VanneV anne

                      Even without Fukushima, in the US has a1 in 2 chance of getting cancer; a woman a 2 in 3 chance.

                      Radiation also effects the circulatory system, and the heart muscle. Much more to worry about than just cancer.

                      What kind of emissions causes the dramatic increase of leukemia in children living within 5 miles of a nuclear power plant?

                      External gamma rays are accumulative in the body.


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                    • External gamma is like x-ray – the energy goes in and out at [nearly] the speed of light. It simply cannot ‘accumulate’ in the body, though the damage it does to atoms on its way through can definitely accumulate. And many of the radioactive isotopes (particulates) that get inside the body – thus accumulate in tissues and organs – emit gamma in their decay.

                      Once that decay happens, the gamma (again) goes right on through. Alpha and beta particles do far more damage by releasing their energy point-blank or within microns of emission point. Biological tissue can absorb and concentrate gamma-emitting isotopes (particulates). It cannot capture and hold gamma rays. It’s just energy. It’s not a ‘thing’.


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            • SnorkY2K

              We may not see a freeze-up of the cores as we did in Chernobyl. Also, the cores may not scatter as they leave the reactor basement but merge instead. It is difficult to model how the metal will act after leaving. But, I have seen large amounts of molten metal dance in contact with water. I was once splashed with a large amount of molten eutectic lead when a storm hit the roof above our solder wave. My sweat instantaneously vaporized and a large portion of my shirt was coated in a thin layer of lead leaving me a couple of small second degree burns even though everyone around me thought that I was dead for a few seconds. I believe that someone similar will happen as the core portions leave the building and enter a wet environment.
              As the molten areas hit the water, they will not completely cool down like the lead did since the core is producing large amounts of heat. Instead, it will probably explosively push the water away as steam and tiny particles will abrade an ever expanding bowl under the reactor. Molten portions may dance around in the bowl creating large bowls until the bowls merge yielding a mass more likely to have hot spots that will speed the process up. While I believe that we could actually use the process to speed up the recovery and disposal of the core we do need to address it.
              As for building out into the ocean, I concur. However, I believe that a coffer dam needs to be build to try to reduce the amount of water going into the ground to not only slow down the crawl but also to prevent the core material from working its way into the ocean where it will dance itself apart.

              I also fear the waiting 10 years to recover and properly dispose of the material will lead to a large amount of difficult to remediate materials such as curium from being created.

              There are also ways to use some of the materials from the core to remediate the dust and fallout issues but those methods are expensive and probably would never be considered


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              • Interesting. But I would sincerely doubt “removal and proper disposal” of the corium in the basements/ground in 10 years. Or even 100 years. If they can seal off its progress and it incorporates enough extraneous material to dilute fuel content so it’s not actively melting everything it touches, they need to entomb and leave it be. All that is possibly recoverable at some point is/was in the SFPs. Don’t know what they’ll do with that. Maybe vitrify and entomb on-site as well. Let’s face it – the Daiichi reservation and immediate environs isn’t a prime piece of gated McMansion development land and never will be.

                Consider the ridiculous radioactivity of the Chernobyl corium. Still. The first sample of the elephant’s foot was obtained with the aid of a rifle and some (basically) chewing gum on a very, very long stick. There’s not enough mobile shielding on earth that would let a human being climb into the actual crawlspace with it (and live long enough to crawl back out). It’s hard – but fascinating in a noir sort of way – to imagine how nasty-hot this stuff can be. Neutrons alone would gift any interloper with a thick lead coffin.

                It must be contained and isolated. If that can be done, then there’s absolutely no reason to reopen it just so they can cut it into pieces and bring it back out to where it can spread around some more. I think they’re better off managing it where it is. IMO.


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                • VanneV anne

                  There is no way to entomb it or isolate it because of the geology at Fukushima. I will find the article.


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                  • VanneV anne

                    Fukushima – No Way Out

                    “Those of you who have been following me at HawaiiNewsDaily or on my blog may not have been thrilled with my initial assessments back in March – and ongoing – that Fukushima isn’t going away.

                    “The reactors can NEVER be placed in ‘cold shutdown’ because the cores are partially melted together. We are talking about hundreds of tons of fissile material inside reinforced concrete containment vessels. The containment vessels are cracked. They are releasing radiation. Fission excursions are still occurring and no one can go inside those containments for hundreds of years – even if they could get to the fuel.

                    “They continue to pour water on them and drain it off into the ocean because there is nothing else they can do. If they stop pumping water, the genie comes out. If they keep pumping water, it has to go somewhere and that somewhere is the ocean. It is still a stop gap. Those reactor cores cannot be put into ‘cold shutdown’ or dismantled or entombed. Ever. …”
                    http://www.rense.com/general94/noway.htm


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                    • There’s a bit of hyperbole in that Rense article that betrays an author not all that well versed in nuclear details. That’s okay, of course, but I wouldn’t take it as authoritative. Nor would I claim my thoughts about what may or may not be happening at Fukushima are authoritative. I’m not there.

                      I do not know that the corium flows from separate reactors have – or will – “melt together.” Unless they engineered-in specific pathways under the plants for that, it’s very unlikely. Nor do I know how much fuel and incorporated melt mass each flow contains, or how many sub-flows each core may have spawned. A matter of semi-fluid dynamics, physics (the heat generation capacity of the mass versus dilution and occasional heat exchange) and available pathways. Chernobyl ended up with at least 3 main flows and several more sub-flows. I don’t even know how fractured the ground is. Just have the worker reports from June – September, like everybody else.

                      The author maintains that fission products released to the coolant water turn radioactive and “become fuel” eventually. Which isn’t true. They’re waste products that were radioactive at birth and will remain so until death (disintegration/decay). There’s definitely some loose fuel particles in there, but contaminated water is nothing like corium. The water isn’t at or above the temperature of molten rock, and it is never going to become so just from contamination concentration at that dilution.


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                    • Oh… and I don’t believe the bulk of corium at any of the three plants is still in the containment vessels, either. But that’s just me.

                      Yes, “cold shutdown” is a total joke in this situation – there’s simply no such thing. But there will come a time when the self-generation of heat in the corium will not maintain a high enough temperature to actively melt mineral matter, or sustain even a short moderated fission reaction when it’s hit with water. It’ll be hot enough to flash water to steam and gases for quite awhile, and that will keep the atmospheric releases coming. I envision a sarcophagus with cleverly engineered vents for steam and gases, eventually channeled to a specially filtered stack. I think that may be possible, and it would begin to offer some level of control over emissions. To the air. Don’t know what they could do about the water except seal off the cliff, dam the flows of corium, and divert groundwater elsewhere.

                      I have no clue whether TEPCO, all the nukes in the world, or any agency of the Japanese government will even attempt any of that. But if not, then they might as well let it be.


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                    • arclight arclight

                      seems like a natural here..

                      into eternity

                      “2010 Documentary about nuclear waste. This raises the questions, what will future generations do with the waste, will they even be able to read the warning signs, will they even speak our languages? How can we possibly predict what humans will be like in 10000 years? Rendering parts of the earth uninhabitable and dangerous means thousands of generations will be responsible for perpetuating this warning to further generations, not to mention there will always be danger of it being stolen to make bombs or other sinister reasons. We should consider the long term risks to the earth, an unpredictable planet at risk of natural disasters at any time, these toxic dumps underground will never truly be secure for the future, to say they are would be pure speculation with no basis in science. Is this what you want our generation to be known for?”


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                    • @arclight – I am a victim of limited bandwidth, can’t download videos of more than ~5 minutes or so. But you don’t have to convince me of the befuddling insanity of producing waste deadly for tens and hundreds of thousands of years just so we have the convenience of toasted bagels for breakfast (insert silly electrical appliance here – electric toothbrushes certainly qualify).

                      I’ve been saying that for nearly 40 years, ever since becoming far too educated about the actual technology (how it really works – or doesn’t), which isn’t anything like the propaganda I grew up with.


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                  • VanneV anne

                    [Geology of Fukushima]

                    “I have talked with some of my colleagues (geology professors) today, and some of them knew for many years/decades that the bed rock of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuke Power Plant is soft sedimentary rock. They do not know why government (both national and local/prefectural) approved for the construction of the plant on such a bad spot, and can only think of*unethical acts of polititians and the industry.*Also,*my colleagues warn that the type of bed rock, which geologists identify,*and the strength/suitability of the*bed rock, which soil/geo-engineers determine, is different, even though I would*still support that*young sedimentary rocks below the Fukushima Daiichi Nuke Plant is NOT*suitable for constructing buildings that have to endure earthquakes. ”
                    http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=3356008#post3356008


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                  • VanneV anne

                    Faults unconsidered in the seismic design of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear … Map of Outer sea from Shioyazaki” (Geological Survey Japan, 2001)
                    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110531e4.pdf


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        • VanneV anne

          Not only is it wiping out Japan, but the whole Northern Hemisphere. Good luck!


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        • VanneV anne

          Each generation near Chernobyl shows greater and greater genetic damage. Even the first generation shows lower IQ. Radiation causes genetic damage that can’t be repaired ever.


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          • Genetic damage is indeed present, will continue to be present “unto the seventh generation” as the great Native American cultures cite in their councils to decide on significant changes for their own short-term comfort. And FAPP forever in the immediate area, of course. Which is why people won’t be going home again if they’ve an ounce of care for that (and aren’t just old and wish to die at ‘home’).

            Yet the effects will tend to dispurse widely through the population. Think about the mercury developmental mutations disaster – no matter how long the victims live, the worse the physical effects, the less likely they are to breed. Or even be able to breed (reproductive issues will become widespread). But as with the long-term necessary guardianship of high level nuclear waste – all of it, since the 1940 – my most pointed questions would be how they successfully warn the distant future of the danger. None of us knows what civilization will look like in a thousand years. This stuff has to be well guarded for at LEAST 10,000 years. Which is longer than advanced civilization of any human variety has existed. Why we generate this shit just for the convenience of toasted bagels for breakfast is beyond me. The future was never going to thank us for that.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Oh, yeah. 30 years, that ought to cover it ….


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  • and look for the wording:
    “abandoned land” instead of “where people lived happily till they were forced out by poisoning”
    “relocation” … to a shelter

    and that blabla war will go on for years now


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    • aigeezer aigeezer

      You’re right catweazel

      Also “abandoned” as in “voluntary” as in “no compensation needed”, and so forth. It certainly sounds better than “uninhabitable”.

      Perhaps “relocation” has “out of sight, out of mind” overtones also. It sounds so innocent – just call for a rental truck to move the furniture.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Abandoned land = weasel words


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  • ion jean ion jean

    First thing that strikes me about this memo is it was sent on a Sunday night after 1:00 in the morning…obviously the NRC was burning the midnight oil into April here on the East Coast…

    Second, it’s written to Ostendorff (Nuke Party alltheway) and cc: a bunch of people, none of which are Chairman Jaczko, what up with that?

    Finally, it shows indisputable MEDIA SPIN and LYING on the part of the IAEA NRC TEPCO SATANIC TOILETBOWL

    Happy New Year 2012! We’re still here despite the Mayan calendar (original date translation was 12/31/11 not 12/21/12 as has been popularly espoused)

    I’m


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  • john lh john lh

    not necessary MSM SPIN AnD LYING .

    it is the Japan culture ad tradition.

    A sad story, about the tragic ending of Japan, written by weak politician and evil.

    They call surrender as “SHIFT of Position”,at end of WWII.

    Asia tradition is now a world wide virus.


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  • pacific

    relocation, evacuation

    potayto, potahto
    :)


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