Published: December 22nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm ET
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US expert: time to scrap reactors unknown, NHK, December 21, 2011:
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- A US nuclear expert says it is impossible to predict how long it might take to decommission the reactors
- Charles Casto [a representative of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission] told NHK that he and others still don’t fully understand what’s going on inside the reactors
- “You can’t make a solid estimate until you know what the level of damage is inside the reactors.” -Castro
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- Casto said that after the accident his team advised the Japanese government to continue injecting sea water [?] into the reactors
- Casto said his team felt deep dissatisfaction with Japan for providing only limited information from a small number of engineers
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Published: December 22nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm ET
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obfuscation, is the term from these asshats.
“can you stop the spew” Tepco: “no, no luck there”
“ok, then carry on and let us know some bullshit for the sheeple, it is appreciated and expected.”
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More to the point, it sounds like the blame game for the lies is starting! I bet they knew who is going to get the blame (scapegoat)6 months ago and they have been putting all necessaries in place as there plan goes ahead. ” It was them and him. We had no idea that the reactor units were running above there designed capacity and therefore the reactor design was not at all in anyway shape nor form at fault. We would also like to add that the information forwarded to us from him,him and them was not complete and therefore our simulation analysis was not 100% correct and showed no reactor system had failed and reactor units had only suffered minor external damage as was expected due to design safety features. Its only thanks to TEPCO’s experts and scientists that put in many months of hard work to confirm the leaks and damage were much more considerable than was reported by them. We have found there negligence inexcusable and have recommended there immediate termination with follow up enquiries pending.” Or something along those lines?
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Nice. Thanks.
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sad but i think you nailed it
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given the “takeover” news, “along those lines” probably also meansreplacements will be supporters of the ruling party.
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NRC: “Also one more fact we would like to point out. The NRC,IAEA,UN Atomic energy commision,NEA,EPA and many other nuclear funded organisations and scientists have been lied,tricked and fooled into believing there was absolutely no need for further investigation once these few but trusted individuals had forwarded there data analysis of each units status. As the first explosions occurred as expected according to design safety features of each unit, the general consensus amongst our teams of experts was systems had worked flawlessly. Once the status data was received we were patting each other on the back and congratulating engineers and designers on there faultless design and outstanding safety features, we thought the proof was there for the world to see.”
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If the NRC advised Japan to inject seawater into the reactors, that shows the stupidity at the NRC. Break one thing to fix something else.
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And maybe, it was more, “Break everything if we can stop this one bad thing from happening….”.
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Our team (the readers of enenews.com) feels deep dissatisfaction with the United States and Japan for authorIzing the use of deadly nuclear power by running flawed design GE Mark I reactors with improvised, untested retrofits long past a safe lifespan and causing global poisoning of more than half of the human race and letting agencies like the NRC provide limited information by a small group of engineers (doctors, lawyers and chiefs).
What? It’s OK with the big boys in Washington to rinse frequently and thoroughly with SEAWATER??? Radiochlorine isotope is a gaseous byproduct…my lungs say “F*ck Those Dumbasses!”
Santa will bring them heartache and sorrow.
HO HO HO (Hackkk!)
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“”"”" NRC official tells Japan: We don’t understand what’s going on in Fukushima reactors — “You can’t make a solid estimate until you know what the level of damage is inside” “”"”"”"
A rather damning revelation from the NRC. This sounds like an attempt at truth from the NRC.
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Umless this is an old narticle..the NRC…in charge of safety ..should and is being constantly updated…
And if they are not ..they need to be fired.
If they are… they need to be fired.
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I can tell you NRC what is happening there. Read a university textbook regarding nuclear plants. You start a nuclear reaction and it continues, producing more and more radioactivity and heat. It is operating as designed with no cooling water. How big the next explosion will be remains to be seen.
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+100 they need to be legislated out, after the constitution is restored.
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The NRC seems to have put on its good-guy hat for that media interaction. This startled me, so I routinely Googled any names mentioned to try and understand background issues better.
I suggest you Google “charles casto nrc” and follow leads if you’re interested. (Not “Castro”, by the way).
Along the way, you may stumble on this NRC document:
http://www.nrc.gov/japan/japan-info.html
which seems to tell us that the NRC jumped into action and did heroic deeds to keep everyone safe the moment the earthquake struck blah blah. To my eye, such themes on the NRC sites contrast strongly with the current Japan bashing theme. It’s all spin.
If you need an emetic, you might try:
http://www.nrc.gov/about-nrc/organization/rivfuncdesc.html
Attempts to reference Mr. Casto led me both to Japan links (where he is alleged to have been NRC’s man on the site in March), and also to “Region 4″ in Texas where he perhaps is/was/will be – it’s hard to follow. Anyway, the bureaucracy is thick at the Texas site, and if you can understand any of the job descriptions you’re a better bureauspeak translator than I am. Apparently many of the “important” jobs there are unfilled – laugh or cry – your call.
Sheesh – I think I’d rather have Tepco running things – can’t believe I said that.
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It’s “fairly” clear that some of the melted reactor cores from 1,2 and 3, if not all of it, have left the RPV and PCV and are somewhere beneath the buildings. TEPCO has already said as much when they stated that the melted cores had stopped some 30cm short of breaching the concrete floor underneath the PCV.
Then for the Japanese prime minister (no caps for this puppet) to then turn around and state that TEPCO has advised that the reactors had been brought under control and are now in the “equivalent” of cold shutdown [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_%28nuclear_reactor%29] seems almost incredulous. It’s like saying we’ve put out a forest fire by dousing the ashes where it originally started. I mean really WTF!
I, for one, am completely digusted at the ridiculous statements issued by officials who should, and probably do, know better. The planet as a whole is going to suffer greatly from this disaster and more importantly coverup and disinformation spewing forth from the once great Japan.
Stand up and be accountable and tell the freaking truth instead of regurgitating such utter nonsense. You’re harming not only your country’s environment but also the people’s health and faith!
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Mr. Castro,
I am not a nuclear engineer, but even without the fancy degrees and title, I can tell you what is going on – the worst case scenario! Perhaps you should use non-fluoridated water in your coffee. Three (or four – depends on who you ask) reactors are in full melt down and there is nothing you, TEPCO, japan or the NRC have done to stop it! How do you decommission a molten blob of corium? Let me give you a hint: spraying salt water on it wasn’t exactly the best solution. Thousands of people tried to explain why this was a bad idea, but you wouldn’t listen to them because they were not lapdogs for the nuclear cabal. The alternatives cost money and resources, something that would drain profits from nuclear energy shareholders. The best that could have been done was slant drill below the reactor to add more concrete to the bed, spray it with fungi spores (which absorb radiation and could have mitigated some of the radiation) and encase it in concrete. The region should have been evacuated. Instead, TEPCO is “decontaminating” areas adjacent to reactors that continue to spew out radiation at levels so much worse than Chernobyl, possibly an ELE. As for the US response, your compadres at the EPA have decoded that the radiation levels have declined and therefore will only test for radiation in milk and drinking water every three months.
Mr. Castro, you are about as useless as the TEPCO officials you chide. If you were the so-called expert you claim to be, you would have admitted the obvious – that nothing can be done now. Instead, you play the blame game – “It’s not nuclear energy that’s bad, it’s just TEPCO obfuscating the data.” I guess your paycheck is more important than your conscience.
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Saint Kelly Ann Thomas, Right-Click Research Engineer.
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Casto (no R)
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Aagh! It’s the auto-correct on the spell check! I was trying to be careful to avoid that. Maybe if I wore my glasses instead of squinting I would have caught it.
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No prob, KAT. Your post seems right on target.
I just wanted to leave a breadcrumb trail for anyone who wanted to Google the unusual name (casto).
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@ Kelly Ann “reactors are in full melt down and there is nothing you, TEPCO, japan or the NRC have done to stop it!”
This fact for me was another very convincing factor for my belief that the worst case scenario (china syndrome or what ever they wish to call it?) happened within hours/days and not weeks, months or saved with only 30cm to go! My belief is it happened so fast that admitting to this fact proves beyond doubt that Nuclear energy when systems fail can be completely out of control extremely fast with no way to control or stop it. It instantly makes it the worst choice for our environment,planet,children and the other species on our little island that do not have a say or choice but to become extinct! Politics and greed from only a few will destroy all life as we know it if we don’t act now (if we survive this one that is?) No one knew till now (or they did not want us to know) how fast it could happen as it was only theory and not tested for pretty obvious reasons. We need to rise up against these greedy warmongering few as they are public enemy No.1. They see our mothers,kids and planet as acceptable losses to keep them in there corrupted,greedy,heartless and power hungry life.
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Funny they now say they don’t know what is going on, when they’ve told the US congress on several occasions that they did now what was going on, and that all was safe…
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NRC= Not Really Concerned
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THIS IS INTERESTING!!
http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/12/nhk-manipulates-the-report-of-jp-pm-nodas-press-conference/
DO YOU THINK NODA KNOWS??
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@arclight…..Yes…
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Dear arclight,
Does Noda know that we know? Other similar alternative answers for the next time he is asked the question might be to break into an acrobatic act including flip flops, recite a poem about ancient greek urns, or offer a recipe for disaster (oh, oops, right, that’s already been done)…
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Noda knowduh nuthing!
Where are those 3 monkeys when I need them?
Hear, See, Speak…………….Nuthing!
And then there’s always the brainwashing of our childhood, from Bambi: “If you can’t say sumptin nice, don’t say nutin at all!”
Ho Ho, Ho Ho, as off to work we go…tra lalala, tra lalala, trala lala!
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Hey sid …. U nailed it buddy!
Merry xbox
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..Well..I’m going to take my picture of corium on-site Fukushima and an image of a coward in the place of a national leader…to the land of dreams…and dream about rainbows disappearing in full sun…night all.
Peace.
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http://en.rocketnews24.com/2011/12/23/harbinger-of-the-next-big-earthquake-rare-deep-sea-fish-washed-up-in-japan/
An oar fish, a deep sea species, was found washed up on shore by the tide. “Japanese legend tells that when the fish does appear at the surface, it is a sign that an earthquake is imminent.”
Add to it, the 89.9 MHz echo and “…dozens of great oarfish were found washed up on the shores of Japan roughly a year before the March 11 earthquake in Tohoku.”
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This is the sound of the death knell of modern civilization: Change:
The Internet and Electricity: A Scenario to substitute nuclear energy by living energy.
Recognising the magnitude of power the internet requires(1,2)), people formed into an internet grid and with suitable schedules to take into account local times, literally pedalled their powers(3) through smart cards connected to the power plug. This way, the internetted individuals delivered 350000 megawatts at 100 watts peak power electricity via bicycling to the grid(Present population of the globe is 7 billion and I assume half of them are engaged at any time in this work). This isothermal power they produced at 1.2 volts shockless(4). They are so elegant compared with manufactured things that they were produced through non-clonal love and they returned their “wastes” to Mother Earth via composting toilets. They worked in small self sufficient communities(5) but handled their farm water by wells operated by their power. They were so smart via internetted control rooms that they were able to do the work of hydros by delivering power to meet demand surges(6). They enjoyed their muscle power buffered by animal power of buffaloes and bulls whose manure they used for their ever fertile fields. They dare not export food. What they needed but were unable to get locally, they got from neighbours and this worked bothways. This way when they died they were accepted by Mother Earth seamlessly and the whole process worked losslessly in complete harmony with all that is. This society is driven by the nuclear power of the sun which nature kept safely away at 150 million kilometers from the earth. Their forests were rich and ensured their groundwaters were recharged by the rains(7).
The winds and the sun ensured that the trees worked like giant pumps and cooperated in an atmospheric distribution network of water in proportion to the density of vegetation. Thus the same water recycled four or five times. The diversity…
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The diversity of life was legendary. What is was and what was is and will be forever, the full force of evolution working in each Yuga in harmony.
The power flow through the beings approached 1000 to1500 Megawatts per square kilometer of production and use. The spiritual and physical energies were optimally used. They worked where they lived, singing while they created, sometimes with the sweat of their brows. Their population remained constant in each Yuga with an optimal mix of all ages and they were happy in health and lived the full life.
References:
1. How Much Energy Does The Internet Use? By Barath Raghavan 01 August, 2011 Contraposition.org
2. What Are The Internet’s Dependencies? By Barath Raghavan 05 August, 2011 Contraposition
(Both dates refer to publication date at Countercurrents.org).
3. http://www.econvergence.net
4. Isothermal Engines. By R. Ashok Kumar at http://isothermalengines.blogspot.com
5. Modern and Normal Civilizations. By R. Ashok Kumar. May 1986. GANDHI MARG. at
http://modernandnormal.blogspot.com/
6. Elecrical Load Demand, World’s dams and Worldwide Earthquakes. By R. Ashok Kumar 3 March 2009
7. All URLs at Reforest Mother Earth to Live. By R. Ashok Kumar 19 May 2008. at
http://practicethevedas.blogspot.com/
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Namaste’ – Please Keep Working Hard To Save Our Planet.
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TEPCO And The Japanese Government Have Become Incompetent And Insolvent – Global Disasters And Nuclear Reactors Are Not The Place For Corporate Policy’s And Beurocratic Bickering.
The Government And Corporations Are Now The Enemy Of The People. Who Will Bring These Murderers To Justice If Common People Do Not? Then No One Will And Wicked Men Will Feed Upon The Hearts Of Weak Men Like Wolves And The Streets Will Be Bathed In Blood.
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Excellent aggressive Mainichi article published today:
“Gov’t starring in own show to bring Fukushima nuclear crisis ‘under control’”
…”The reason the plant was able to employ such human wave tactics was that the March 11 earthquake occurred on a Friday afternoon, and there happened to be several thousand workers from cooperating companies on the premises.
Masuda, head of the Fukushima No. 2 nuclear plant, commented, “I shudder to think how it would have been if it had happened on a Saturday.”"
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“The latest announcement that the goals of the road map have been achieved is merely the result of officials lowering their own hurdles. It reminds me of the time during World War II when the Imperial Japanese Army headquarters called the Japanese army’s retreat a “shift in position.”
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“We can only deduce that the “conclusion” of the crisis, rather than being based on scientific evidence, comes from placing priority on a political decision to create the impression that the crisis has been brought under control quickly. As the stance of a government that is supposed to protect the lives and property of people, such an approach is questionable.”
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/perspectives/news/20111223p2a00m0na005000c.html
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I had a hard time believing some of the quotes from TEPCO and the government.
TEPCO: “Bringing the situation under control was possible because this happened in Japan; overseas it would have been impossible.”
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Hi dosdos, I stumbled over that one, too. But I’m quite sure that here in my place workers would have left en masse, and I’m willing to accept to a certain degree that the Japanese top-down system was helpful at this point.
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The way I read it, it’s scripted to discredit foreign criticism, to make the foreign journalists seem that they are complaining about how they expect it would run in their own countries, not in Japan, hence the foreign press information is not applicable to Fukushima.
But the way it reads to me……. sheeesh, they are stupid to believe that people would actually grant even a iota of credibility to such a statement.
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