Joe Rogan on Nuclear Power: It’s such a stupid **** idea — So incredibly arrogant (VIDEO)
Episode 217
The Joe Rogan Experience
May 15, 2012
In his latest broadcast, Joe Rogan once again raises the issue of nuclear power. *Not safe for work.
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Yayyyy, Joe!
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Radiation plants around the world must end. And other dangerous industries mist follow. We demand a safe world.
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Stop the uranium mining. This is as big as an imperative as stopping the reactors.
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Stop uranium mining. NY Times:
"And at the Midnite Mine on the Spokane Indian Reservation in Washington State, years of digging for uranium have left piles of toxic rock on the landscape. Locals are safe enough living there — as long as they don’t eat the radioactive wild berries or the deer that forage on them. What’s tricky about all these places is that they’re not like Three Mile Island, where lives are immediately threatened by a catastrophic accident. It’s not quite clear if they should be cleaned up or abandoned or if there’s some other kind of solution."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/magazine/last-ones-left-in-treece-kan-a-toxic-town.html?hp&gwh=CF7E7AFC51673051CE6B49C5703AB7DD
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Thanks for the link, Aigeezer! As a resident of WA state, I am very interested to follow this issue. As has long been the tactic of the nuke industry, exploiting the native peoples and poor is a shameful legacy. See France's Areva's deadly uranium mines in Africa. Did you hear Canadian PM just reversed Canada's ban on uranium mining on tribal lands?
Seems money trumps human lives. Par for the (nuclear irreveribly irradiated golf) course…
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Same in Australia WATK. The aboriginal traditional lands are threatened by uranium mining and waste storage. There is debate underway now for a new storage site at Mulachy. It will be fought and it will be stopped. I'm just waking up, would like to do the linking but too tired for now.
Anyway, the scripts the same. Exploit traditional land holdings. More nuke destruction and disrespect.
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Same here in Canada. One of the books that woke me up was written by a New Zealander:
"People of Terra Nullius"
(shows how the natives here are being bullied by the Canadian and provincial governments).
I second this Amazon review:
http://www.amazon.ca/People-Terra-Nullius-Boyc-Richardson/dp/1550541188
"I don't buy many books, but although I could get this book from the library I wanted to own it because of its significance and richness of information about the history of aboriginals in Canada. I have immigrated to Canada about 10 years ago and only after a few years, including 2 years of college studies that I realized the almost total silence and widespread misinformation about the people who have always lived here.
The book is a work of passion for justice and reflects the deep respect the author has to the achievements and resilience of these people. It is not a dry historical report but paints the history through people's stories; this is thanks to extensive traveling and contacts of the author with aboriginals, Inuit and the many different nations.
I totally recommend reading this book and believe that anyone who is interested in history and human rights should own it."
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Thanks so much for the tip on the book, Pu239. It sounds like a good one! I especially love books which speak from the perspective of the people themselves, through their telling of their own stories. So much more compelling.
My heart goes out to the Canadian aboriginals who've experienced such oppression and abuse for so long.
The more I read about the history of the world's oppression of minorities, the more I realize how this has been standard operating procedure for pretty much since time immemorial…
That's why the study of history is so crucial, to keep us from making the same errors by learning from our past errors. But the question is: WILL we ever learn? (whether it be stemming the abuses of native peoples or about stopping the abuse of our lands and our people through nuclear proliferation and contamination?)
Will we ever learn?
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G'day, mate!
Yes, I have heard about the sad history of Aboriginal oppression in Australia. I do hope Aussies stand up and stop the storage site at Mulachy. Good luck with that!
Are you a member of any anti-nuke groups there? Seems there is strength in numbers. Check out what California anti-nukes have organized in May, including several May 23 statewide protests and events calling for a nuclear-free California:
http://obrag.org/?p=60556
Also of interest on that same page is a new citizens' radiation monitoring network being set up in S. CA near San Onofre. Yay team!
Hey Richard, have you ever seen that chilling documentary "Silent Storm" about the secret "body snatching" of tens of thousands of Australians who were exposed to the atom bomb testing by the UK (gvt. scientists took their bones to test for radiation)? In case you hadn't:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbbSEkyPtkY
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wow. "body storm" sounds astounding. i will take a look later (at work now). so no, i hadn't heard of it. the outline sounds plausible.
and i'm sorry, i had the wrong name/spelling .. it's 'Muckaty' 120 kilometres north of Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/51044
"Trade union support strengthens NT nuclear waste dump campaign
Muckaty traditional owners have welcomed news that Australia’s peak trade union body, the Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU), has today committed to actively support the campaign against a proposed radioactive waste dump at Muckaty"
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Thanks for clarifying the spelling, Richard.
The documentary I was referring to about atomic testing in Australia is called: "Silent Storm." I found it while researching online for Fuku info this past year. I had no idea about all the nuclear testing done in Australia before I started looking online! You may already know, but the British gvt. did TONS of testing on Aboriginal lands in Maralinga, among other places. The documentary talks about one test that sent a plume from Adelaide in W. Australia all the way to New South Wales. This link describes the sad history:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nuclear_tests_at_Maralinga
"British nuclear tests at Maralinga occurred between 1955 and 1963 at the Maralinga site, part of the Woomera Prohibited Area, in South Australia. A total of seven nuclear tests were performed, with approximate yields ranging from 1 to 27 kilotons of TNT equivalent. The site was also used for hundreds of minor trials, many of which were intended to investigate the effects of fire or non-nuclear explosions on atomic weapons.
"The site was contaminated with radioactive materials and an initial cleanup was attempted in 1967. The McClelland Royal Commission, an examination of the effects of the tests, delivered its report in 1985, and found that significant radiation hazards still existed at many of the Maralinga test areas. It recommended another cleanup, which was completed in 2000 at a cost of $108 million."
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(continued):
"Debate continued over the safety of the site and the long-term health effects on the traditional Aboriginal owners of the land and former personnel. In 1994, the Australian Government paid compensation amounting to $13.5 million to the local Maralinga Tjarutja people."
A lot more information on the history of other atomic tests by the British gvt. at the link above. And I highly recommend watching Silent Storm on YouTube. Not sure if the link I provided was the entire film, but you can do a search for it on YouTube. I found several uploads of the film in separate (5 part) sections too.
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i really am dyslexic this morning. bit of a sleepy head (and i should be working, doh) and i mixed up the film name, so got it now
The Maralinga experience has left me wondering sometimes about the effects it's had on me and the people of australia.
i've said earlier that i'm fine and healthy. but certainly far from perfect and i feel i carry some ultra subtle but existing 'mutations'. I'm certainly nothing out of the ordinary, but some bone structure is a little questionable in shape, almost like an arthritis, which it maybe.
the winds and dust of the desert does blow over to the east coast of Oz… we've had intense dust storms sometimes. Now in hindsight I do wonder what they carried.
That being said, I do my monitoring and reporting on this site, nothing extraordinary has occurred yet, although I've had one unexpected alarm.
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I hear ya, Richard. Lately, my brain doesn't seem to wake up fully until I've had my coffee.
Compared to what we've been exposed to over the years here in the U.S. (tons of above and below ground testing, 104+ nuclear power plants spewing radioactive steam and leaks into the groundwater, the Manhattan Project in my backyard…a mere couple of hundred miles away, and now, Fukuville), Aussie contamination is mere drops of waters in a proverbial, irradiated ocean of nuclear fallout here! ;-D LOL
Still, it's never comforting to think about what kinds of radiation we've been, or are being, exposed to, given the fact that one little hot tottie can start the chain of events that can wreak havoc in one's body.
One thing's for sure, we sure don't need any more nuclear radiation, so shutting down the mining of uranium and the existing NPPs would be the smartest thing the world's nations could do right about now. Plenty of nuclear waste to go around for millenia to come!
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Most of the best uranium is found under Indian Reservations
And we ain't letting anyone have it anymore ….
BTW likely the Kochsuckers STOLE every last ounce as the Indian Trust Fund debacle pretty much proves … We didn't even get 10% of what was owed us, what was STOLEN
What the hell do you think Wounded Knee was really all about
That's why the US has to import 95% of the uranium it uses today for fuel rods, mostly from Russia (50%)
If being dependent on Foreign Nations for half our oil is so bad than what do you call being 95% Dependent on foreign uranium?
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How To Prevent Any New Nuclear Power Plants From Being Built, Close Existing Ones, And Switch To 100% Renewables http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/05/how-to-prevent-any-new-nuclear-power.html
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AGreenRoad, What a great article. Thank you so much. I'd add a million exclamation points if they weren't being banned. And a million capitals also. +10000000000.
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As usual…JOE ROCKS THE HOUSE!!!
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It boggles the mind to think about the fact that there are so many nuclear radiation bombs strategically placed all over the planet. I'll refrain from religious talk but this is so above human intelligence.
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Some people might not believe this, but even nuclear bombs don't bother me anywhere nearly so much as the nuclear power plants. Each plant is a massive dirty bomb waiting to go off. Each one potentially as bad as hundreds of bombs.
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I like Joe as he always dives into a variety of topics. I'm slightly worried for him though because he went to Tokyo with the UFC (he's a commentator) a few months back. Hope he stayed on the down-low.
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I am 100% certain there are atleast 10-15 reactor sites with the same problem as Fukushima 1 has.
The readouts are frighteninging to any sane person, its almoust unbelivable high.
And dont forgett the 100`+ sorts of Isotops diluted everywhere.
Isnt it remarcable the silence of the so caled Green fu…. the AGW pimpers, the one financed by the Nucklear ind and various goverments. Parasittes constructed for one purpouse only, to diversyfy, and to controll the oposition, aka: the global warming hooligans. All of them are pimping Nuks, in various forms and always in a safer modus, witch they Them self wil garantee.
huh
fu.. you.
Isnt it even more remacable the silence from the Sience people, they who Love to Debunk, issues they dont even have understudd.
Analogys are uslefull for one porpouse only, to give a new awarness to the depth of reality. And the issue is not dimenstions in 3d, we never leave 3d because we are cratures of perseption. We need 3d to manuver. To ultimatly feed on something. With Halusiogenics and by other means, like meditation, the reality changes, the 3d not, the perseption in the new reality may not be Familiare in any way(time, agening a.s.o), but stil in 3d.
Capice.
This is NOT Quantum fhysics seince or whatever. Its not even contradictying anything, the conscuisness is something complety different.
All their credibility and trust is gone down the drain, and ther covardness and corruption is glearingly obvious.
peace
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Hmmm…Green Peace was one of the first to raise awareness about Fukushima by sending a boatload of volunteers there. Japan turned them away, but, they stayed offshore and took samples of the ocean. Remember way back in March 2011. It was the Green Peace website that had the most relevant info to be found on nuclear energy and they have a section devoted to Fukushima as well. So, odd that they would be viewed as hostile obstructionists promoting nuclear power to stop global warming.
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I think the argument goes that large protest groups often get co-opted by the ones they are opposing, and thus the Occupy movement – non-organized, no leader, therefore nothing for the opposers to oppose.
I remember facing down French commandos as the French embassy in Ottawa when Mitterand visited. Why were we facing them down?
We were wearing Greenpeace badges at a private embassy gathering and the french police didn't like it. I drank lots of champagne then left. We didn't 'cause' anything, just wore the badges and made them prominent when talking to other people – who usually talked for only a few seconds before noticing the badges then inching gingerly away from us.
Oh yes, the french secret service had just blown up a boat in NZ.
(I noticed the then prime minister – Jean Chretien – leaping the fence from next door to get into the gathering).
In any case, Greenpeace badges get attention.
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the french didn't just blow up the Rainbow Warrior, they murdered a photo journalist on board. It was an international act of terrorism against Greenpeace, morred in Auckland Harbour. Never forget!
http://www.democracynow.org/2005/7/14/remembering_rainbow_warrior_how_french_president
and cheers to you Pu239 for wearing that badge and getting in their face
let's remember that the french are at the forefront of nuking. they deliberately murdered to get there.
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Wow, great story, Pu239! Good for you! Love to hear about people who care deeply about an issue taking action to make a difference! Kudos.
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I think i just cracked the plan!
There is known nanotechnology to cleanse the oceans from radiation so i'm convinced there's nanotechnology available to cleanse the soil. There were plans to create a genetic library on the moon in case a disaster happens.
http://www.space.com/329-noah-cosmic-ark-preserving-dna-moon.html
What if the goal is reached and billions of people died from radiation, then clean oceans and soil and last but not least release the preserved healthy dna.
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i think the star trek pizza cutter has a better chance of flying
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@Holland: you're only looking a tidbit of what's happening. And what you're looking at is unrelated to Fukushima. There is no grand plan to wipe-out humanity. There are plans to trim the population. The idea is to reduce the impact on the environment. The last thing they'd want is to make the planet uninhabitable. Of course, the very technology used to empower themselves has become their undoing…
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Aftershock; it could very well be related to Fukushima, that remains to be seen. If you think about what i wrote then the conclusion may very well be that all the damage that has been done may turn out to be completely reversible. Clean oceans; clean soil; healthy dna. Life will go on as if nothing happened.
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Completely reversible minus a couple of billion people. Not everyone will die.
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listen up americancommntr and Spectrometising, this is not a sunday school or an ametuer bible reading night, the bible is fairy tales, keep them to yourselves.
absolute garbage, clear off, this shyte doesn't belong here.
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Perfectly put, Richard. I can only hope that Admin will enforce his own rules, else all is lost.
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apostrophes, agreed. I am getting tired of all the posts promoting the atheist religion.
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Unfortunately, it's the results that matter. All plans go awry in war. "The best laid plans of mice and men…" Or something like that.
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yup! stupid.. sums it up nicely!
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One of the horrible tragedies of Nuclear energy will be when we realize that we never even needed it. That we decided to destroy our planet for something that was….worthless and not needed. We believed the liars who told us life would be unbearable without the energy we need for our ipods,ipads,iphones etc….we could've work it all out another way…but that's just one of the sad realization that awaits us down this terrible path we have choosen.
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There have been scads of alternative energy devices and systems figured out, and then ignored by industry, bought up by industry, had secrecy orders applied to them, or otherwise been suppressed. It is probably true that during the time of Maxwell, free electricity was figured out, then bits of electromagnetic theory were deleted from the texts and teaching.
While that could have just been the English coal industry doing that, the number of other discoveries which have been suppressed, and the time span over which this has been done, raises a question in my mind.
Maybe there are some evil people in this world who figured out how to live to 300 or 400 years, and remain relatively young?
It's always been somewhat hard to believe the control and suppression has just been generational.
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Evil people like vampires sucking the life out of everyone
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there post i complained about has been removed, i do recognise that action, it's appreciated. i know i get a little riled, i do wish it didn't come to that.
i'm not against anyone having healthy and happy beliefs, spirituality, religion. they are actually all wonderful in there own way. i recognise it in myself. but i don't wish to discuss it here. Anyway, i've explained it before.
really, i'm no hater. but please, just don't be hanging around here preaching.
all words, rants. shouldn't even need to be making them.
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i meant I/me shouldn't even be making them.. i was not targeting some one there..
oh this gets to be too much
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2GD5C_wHY
thanks young ones
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Woman collects rocks on San Onofre beach that explode in her pocket at home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuYQrTxv6Gg&feature=g-u-u
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Weird. One commenter said "Hot pockets".
Sorry, but LOL
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San Onofre beach. Very odd. Wonder what combinations of 'goo' and chemicals contributed to this one. Orange stuff. Have I seen that before?
1. Don't eat the fish or seaweed.
2. Don't collect rocks on the beach and put them in your pocket.
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Insanity runs in the nuclear family, kissin cousins
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