Published: April 29th, 2011 at 5:34 pm ET
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Japanese Nuclear Adviser Quits, Dow Jones by William Sposato, April 29, 2011:
A special advisor to the Japanese government on radiation safety resigned Friday, saying that he was dissatisfied with the handling of the ongoing crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
Toshiso Kosako, a professor at the prestigious University of Tokyo, said at a news conference that the prime minister’s office and agencies within the government “have ignored the laws and have only dealt with the problem at the moment.” Holding back tears, he said this approach would only prolong the crisis. [...]
Mr. Kosako was appointed on March 16. In announcing the appointment, chief government spokesman Yukio Edano described him as someone who “possesses outstanding insight and expertise in the field of radiation safety.” [...]
Published: April 29th, 2011 at 5:34 pm ET
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Quit? What ever happened to the ol’ sepuku routine. WTF? Is Japan turning into the US?
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A sad commentary on the dysfunctional Japanese character
structure that saves face in a disastrous denial of reality. This
special advisor is a hero for quitting. May his actions arouse
an uprising in Japan! This ongoing catastrophe of gradual
meltdown has worldwide consequences. We all are “doomed”
to bio-accumulate more and more low level radionucleotides
as these so called Tepco experts do not know what the f_ _ k
to do. At least they can be honest with the world as to what
the true situation is in real time. We citizens of the world
have a right to insist on this and from our respective governments
to be truthful with us.
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ABC News reported on this!
“In a tearful news conference, Kosako said he could not stay and allow the government to set what he called improper radiation limits of 20 millisieverts an hour for elementary schools in areas near the plant.”
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=13496908
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That’s 20 millisieverts per year — not hour.
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Oh my gosh, that’s right! It’s per year!
I’m so sorry; I was up late typing it!
Thank you for correcting!
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Sam: Exactly right. Well said.
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What is the difference between Japan and the Titanic? Not much.
The country is now sinking, the captain is nowhere to be found…and the band is still on deck playing their violins.
If there was ever a time that we needed the “international community” to come together to deal with something, it is now.
No one wants to look though. France is a hair trigger away from its own nuclear disaster. The UK is a washed up old whore of a colonial empire. The US is completely out to lunch living in an alternate universe of celebritydom and iphone apps. China hates the Japs, always has.
Russia? Russia! Russia please help!
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I have definitely felt the titanic vibe for the past year, time for the next score maestro! gurgle , gurgle , glup…
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I hope they help you.
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Here is a brilliant article that clearly explains why nothing is being done about the situation, due to the global rulers all being at the trough together in their mad thirst for ever-more dominance. Sadly for the rest of us (ie. most of the 6.9 billion) this is killing millions (soon to be billions) and destroying much of life on Earth (soon to be most if not all life on Earth!).
Britain’s Royal Wedding: A Big Day For The Global Oligarchy
“. . . the royal wedding is not just a peculiar Big Day for the seemingly quaint House of Windsor. It is in many ways a celebration of the dictatorship of global Capital over democracy in Britain and elsewhere around the world, including the ‘Republic of the USA’. As the assorted global dictators assembled in London’s Westminster Abbey might say in harmony with the happy couple: ‘Till death do us part’.”
(http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24538)
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I would personally like to thank TEPCO for costing my company over $200,000 dollars this year. I was set to film an auto commercial as both the star and the provider of equipment. Needless to say that TEPCO’s mismanagement of this disaster (Not to mention building the stupid thing, in a stupid place)
Should I ever meet one of the GE or TEPCO execs I would like to apologize in advance for the damage I am going to cause in their lives…….
It was going to be the single best paycheck in my life, I am bummed.
Oh and di I mention that I used to LOVE seafood and milk? So thinking about it toss in a couple of BP execs………..
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This will definitely need unprecendented global cooperation to resolve, yet most of us (at least who read this site) are well aware that the global corporate oligarchy running the show right now is doing everything it can to obstruct the resolution of this crisis (no doubt for a number of reasons to do with their selfish interests, making more profits from death and mayhem – the usual stuff they thrive on).
The powerful people behind the almost total media blackout on this terrible catastrophe are without question committing a crime against humanity, as potentially millions of people (or even tens or hundreds of millions of people) in the northern hemisphere far outside Japan (especially on the US west coast, where I live) will suffer illnesses and death needlessly, due to not taking appropriate precautions.
It is time for humanity to get together as a collective and demand a nuclear free world. The governments are owned by corporations and it is all out of control. Without a unified voice from the mass of humanity it will not change. A radical paradigm shift is needed and it will only occur if all of us, and everyone they know, and everyone THEY know (and so on to all “six degrees of separation”) begins to take a REAL interest in these events.
Oh, but that whore of a UK empire is doing its best to distract everyone today with their self-indulgent display of nonsense that is costing the UK tax payers tens of millions. England is definitely a key protagonist in this whole nightmare, as the “royal” family have been a major stakeholder since the birth of the nuclear industry. Here’s a better description for them I came up with today:
A “royal” PAIN in the DNA for all life on Earth!
http://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/the-royal-nuclear-family/
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this is going to get alot worse, as japan becomes an uninhabitable nuclear waste zone. good luck and think a peaceful thought today, ands remember everyone belongs to the human race.
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This disaster will be with humankind even after it is lost from our history. Its effects will be with us for the rest of humankind’s existence.
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BUY MORE AMMO
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Was it radiation that caused the night of the living dead? I don’t remember. No, it was the cooking scent of beans and rice, wafting through a hungry world.
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So upset I can not even type……
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By knowing the Japanese way of accepting no so good situations he is a F. hero! No other way he could be more sounding about how stupid they are going, wake up Japan time to fight to finnish this.
BTW close all nuclear power plants and go thorium, geo termal, wind, pedal electricity or wtf, because at this rate I’m not sure there is Japan in 9 months and you guys have enough power plants there to F. the northern hemisphere more then once.
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Toshiso Kosako with his statement:
“have ignored the laws and have only dealt with the problem at the moment.”
to anyone who has really, really been involved with these Nukes is telling you THE STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURES IN AN EMERGENCY. Rads are given to the general population on an operational situation basis an could be as high or even higher than a worker inside.
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elaborate please.
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All the Nukes have emergency evacuation plan which are published AND given to the people in surrounding area. ALSO they have been required to have a type of Civil Defense system for up to ten miles from the Nuke Site. The dosages they can give (allow) under each level of an emergency is contained and published in the Environmental Impact Statements for that plant, usually found in a public depository such as a library in the community. There you should find the “projected releases under normal operational conditions” (rads) and under emergency conditions. Everything that has come from Japan’s emergency has paralleled what I have read and known for a long time for the U.S. plants.
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bottom point, uranium and plutonium and other radioactive fuels that can reach criticality by themselves its a BAD IDEA, correct?
Thorium I cant tell, they just need to be safe…
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Absolutely correct.
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in a way japan was the worst country this nuclear nightmare could have happened in.
inward looking social culture.
once a decision is made it is full steam ahead for a long time even when they know it is wrong.
the whole loss of face thing.
the absolute corruption of the government in the pay of the nuclear power industry.
the treating of the country as a corporation.
resulting in health and safety issues taking 2nd place to tepco.
the yearly replacement of prime minsters creating instability.
the unhealthy business of 16 us bases and weird policy of paying the us to be there.
millions will die for what because these government meat heads could not say to the world help we are drowning.
or it could just be fuck it we are gonna die so we will slowly take everyone with us.
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yep, maybe even china would be better, Frak maybe N. korea would be better.
Now its like I was there I loved it.
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Great post – horribly valid points. I think they are ‘shell-shocked’, there must be significant mental traumas from the quake(s) and tsunami and trying to run a crisis. Looking at it like that, if an outsider (us) saw ‘numbed down’ person(s) trying to respond effectively in an emergency and they really couldn’t be effective, then the outsider might step in to at least help them, wouldn’t they? What I find completely unacceptable the International Nuclear people haven’t produced a solution every one of them may arguably need themselves one day.
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They should have got help!
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I agree. Japan literally had their country shut down and devastated OVERNIGHT with no more than a few minutes’ warning. UPI noted the official death toll at around 15,000 with about the same number still missing… By comparison, the US went into a tailspin for months over 9/11, which only destroyed a couple of buildings!…3,000 lost vs. 30,000 lost in Japan!!…
I think the great engineering and scientific minds there (and they are some of the best) are having post-traumatic stress disorder!! Media reports show distinguished-looking Japanese men walking around in a complete daze! That’s severe PTSD. Even a mild case of PTSD may impair your concentration and best efforts under pressure.:(
They need more support!…….
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Agreed, Japan is the worst place this could have happened. TEPCO is running the show completely. Japan is run like a corporation, and guess who runs the corporation- that’s right – TEPCO, et. al.
A corporation, is taking down it’s own country and the world with it’s covert activity, lies and ommissions all in the almighty name of minimizing shareholder loss and holding on to stock value.
Nothing can be done, so scientists quit, small town mayors complain, bureaucrats weep and nothing to be done. They got nothing, government works for the corporations in Japan. One thing TEPCO is good at, being incompetent frauds and unethical liars.
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I’m glad he reconsidered his former assumptions, tried his best to work from within, communicated his values, informed others and showed personal courage in taking this action under what I can assume was considerable pressure. Even if we may be flawed people stuck in a crazy construct, this guy gives me hope for the possibilities, future positive change. It restores my belief in the goodness of others.
Deep thanks and appreciation to this site and you peeps!
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difficult not to be negative…
but what makes you think anyone will even know about this.
i am starting to think you could have Toshiso Kosako,surrounded by johnny depp,brad pitt,sean penn. with pammy baywatch anderson doing a strip
and it would not be shown anywhere,not on tv or in newspapers.
when Mordechai Vannu spilt the beans on the secret israeli nuclear industry it had 5 pages in the times newspapers…and became an international story.
this story is already starting to slowly kill people..
i cannot see this pushing the wedding off the news or even getting a small mention.
the only regular nuclear info has been on russain today news..
most people do not care…they will when the real big bang comes,this is the quite before the storm.
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@ Tony-was just thinking the same thing..(when/if i will read the headline “Massive explosion at troubled Fukushima plant”)
when the real big bang comes,this is the quite before the storm.
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It’s coming, people there will stop putting them selfs at risk when they see they are not getting anything done to stop this beast, Then they will walk away and others will not come to the cambers !
Then it will do/sound/act like the beast it is in full force for no one to feed or quite it !
Unless another country or group pf come forward and blow Northern Japan to infinity !
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cambers sopose to be chambers
oop’s
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“Multiple plants Just South” same town !!!!!
That whole Island could turn into multiple chain reactions of abandonments and explosions !!!
That are all too close to each other if reactor problems !!!
GOOD GRIEF !!!
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drfox…Correcto.
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I think this will be a very long duration, low dose slow rolling beast never rising to a dramatic level, and yes, easily denied or obfuscated. The impact is in the ton load. The big wake up explosion may never come, but the emissions will. It’s difficult for the public to get their minds around a global nuclear event like this. Without an explosive Hollywood scenario, they don’t understand easily, they aren’t supported in understanding by sources they trust with interests in this outcome, the latency period is long AND psychologically we’re not trained, wired or incentivized to events like this. It may be an increase in epidemics, still borns et al but not reported over years, until finally a very few may wake up reading Oprah’s magazine and say, “Hey, I wonder why so many I know have ____ now. Gee.”
It’s called social Darwinism, and it’s disgusting. It’s why our founder’s theorized that a strong independent Fourth Estate, Judicial, Congressional and Executive branch or “separation of powers” were necessary as a check on exactly this type of scenario. It’s been eroded though, it has been before too. It cycles. We’re a young country, but this time it’s global: Corporate Governance Era. There are satellites for change: some other countries, some free press, credit unions, collective bargaining, some court acess, some US states, the Internet, some very dedicated and admirable people. So yes, this is the challenge of our time, and it’s big, but doable. It won’t be this month or next. It takes a while, but people all over are jumping up for a new direction and there’s more that want it than don’t really.
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hmm fully agree with the slow burn part Mothra,that seems pretty much a cert just with what’s happened to date-but can’t help feeling that there’s an awful lot of energy stored up in the present situation,like a bear trap on a hairspring-one wrong move could trigger all kinds of endgames.Not that I’m any sort of expert but there seems to be no shortage of wrong moves.
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If there comes the time when no one is there to water it, The beast will roar !
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We’ll probably get both. I think the large amount of fuel will determine the ultimate size of the problem. And it will be released into the environment in a fairly regular manner. But the regular releases will be interrupted with “explosive” episodes, as energy imbalances build and need to relieved. Then again, it may just be one chaotic episode after another.
One thing they may be able to do, is remove as much of the “stable” fuel as possible to safer locations, to minimize the ultimate potential. If there is such a thing as “stable” fuel, and they’re able to find it. I’m not sure if this really makes any sense though. I’m just thinkin’ out loud.
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I just realized I misread what I responded to. I don’t think you were talking about the actual releases of radiation. It was more about the effects from it.
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They can transport the dry casks on site and likely have. The shared fuel pool (the largest) could theoretically be “pruned” for more mature rods to dry cask, but more recent fuels in it – not likely. Those will take years and potentially could (perhaps have) fissioned beyond the releases. This will all be pending audit of 1,900 tons and rises to 3 separate Level 9 events and one Level 7 and two level 5 events. Neighboring Daini isn’t talked about much, but an INES scale event occured there too. It all has to go somewhere – so, if it’s not verifiably where it should be, then you can assume it’s melted and released.
For perspective, Chernobyl was Level 7 under 200 ton load ( burned 40% in ten days) and it’s impact and data is more accessible via studies, research facilities, universities, books and the Davistown Museum et al.
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Yeah, I was wondering about those other reactors we haven’t heard about in a while.
The conspiracy theorist in me is wondering if this is all some kind of new “environmental warfare”, and we’re starting to see the retaliation for all the stuff in the middle east.
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guess I wz just thinking out loud too Dan…:) unfortunately about the possibility of say,a full RPV failure @r2,or an aftershpck that totally collapses 1,2 or 4(or all) SPF’s..
There are plenty of booby traps in a high potential gradient…if any of these were to make the site inaccessible as you say xdrfox-then that post of “Clouds” would be looking,ah, prophetic…and if things REALLY went base over apex,there’s also the Daini plant not too far down the road…be quite shocking if THAT had to be abandoned too…
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For me the horrible reality is it will only conceivably take one more strong tsunami to again wipe out any existing crisis personnel and equipment/power again at Fukushima – to leave the plants completely unattended probably worse than it is now. Know that Japan has experienced HUNDREDS of earthquakes since 3-11. Luckily none have created the water wave i suggested above. By the grace of the Universe we were spared a scenario I don’t think is remotely far fetched. Imagine all the currently trained people were washed away in a near future tsunami and now Japan has to pull people to hold the fire-hoses from the offices of Tokyo because there is not enough people left near the coast where the plants are. I’m not being negative but believe it is a worst case and likely scenario to unfold.
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National Debt Clock
http://zfacts.com/p/461.html
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@ Deetu 3
How far are the next close plants ??
they had 55 reactors, how many plants ?
I am on a different terminal, no link resources !
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@xdrfox look to be =/-8km apart.
http://www.esri.com/services/disaster-response/japan-earthquake-tsunami-2011-map/nuclear-impact-map.html
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@ Deetu 3
I can’t see anyone going to work daily in the nearby plants if the radiation from Fukushima at other plants is too high and few hours is over exposure, the evact zone would include at least one of the other plants, what to do ? Pull back the evact zone ?
Or was the evact zones decreased in size before the operators/workers realized that these 2 other plants were in that evact diameter of zone ?
I believe one is 6 clicks and the other is 8 or 10 clicks away !? Anyway a 20 click exclusion zone would put them in it !
I think there is much that is not being reveled here and the reasons are because it is unthinkable as to gravity of.
How long does it take a plant to shut down a reactor and place it harmlessly in a suspended state ? But would still require men on site in harms way of continuous poisoning ! I believe there is present fallout at both, above safe levels.
There are many people here more at risk then the Jumpers that have been publishings !
We know two other plants also been in dire since the quakes with problem after the quake and damage from that were immediate !
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@xdrfox- agreed. was just looking at a map showing Daini about 10-12k …just a fuel-rods-throw away.As we all know “cold shutdown” is not a passive state-still needs constant input/babysitting.
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Readings 63k from plant….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3NxTtNIlFw
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All those explosions in Clouds~… may be the other plants …
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at first I thought clouds had to have been made after 311!
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I had seen a comment somewhere that said that all six of the reactors would not blow like that at the plant !
Non related really !
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Here is the giveaway. The famous talking heads always hang out at popular news stories when there are 5-star hotels, restaurants and hookers galore. Japan has all of the above, yet, no big names. C-string expendables, if that. They may appear stupid, but instincts have taken over.
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They had Chris Jansing (MSNBC) there embed with the new disinfo guy (let’s call him MR. Smith Jones). By the time the Xenon compound “pollen” aka “yellow rain” hit Tokyo, she wasn’t there on location anymore. She always stood on a balcony – it was kind of embed-ish like during Shock & Awe. Not authentic. Go figure.
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I keep saying……..
Business people are totaly UNFIT for government jobs.
Why ?
They are ALWAYS trying to make another dollar by any means possible.
Money is chauferred. Bull Shi walks.
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ALL the BS in the world is not gonna give me a clean Salad. You me we are FUCKED. BUY GUNS BUY AMMO BUY MREs Get ready to rumble. Once it gets to a point like 10 days in of a REAL SHIT HITS THE FAN. Folks wont be so nice they will do what it takes to try to stay alive. Go hug a friggn tree get it over with. Bang your DRUM cuss all that you want. But If you dont have the shit stashed now you better be rich and start buying it. I stand by the fact the best prepared will make it the rest just another steak on the grill. What American Idol is on GOTTA GO. Note to self buy more AMMO
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Try buying some long shelf life food now, if you can find any. Yes, surprisingly ammo is still available. Tells you how many sheeple are totally clueless. Darwin was right.
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You keep pushing guns. Are you an arms dealer, or have some investment in gun manufacturing?
Just wondering, since you keep advertising here.
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Protection is a key element of survival.Civilized behaviour will be one of the first casualties in a large scale protracted catastrophe.Have you ever had to fight for your life?.
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i wanna be a machoman. that was a song, remember.. i hope you are not serious, people like you actually lack an instinct for real survival eon the realworld so stay in your dreamworld.
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some people just don’t get it, some people do, and everybody fakes it. and those who let the mass media do their thinking for them, and spend their entire life in some hollow pathetic and colorless shell of a dull and contrived existence. hiding from the truth. everything is contrived, unable to think an original thought. quite frustrating.
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“The Clouds~..
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/598/757/The_Clouds_…html
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It’s pretty clear to one has a clue about how to bring this terrible death breathing monster under control. Everyone’s just standing around looking at each other, once in a while chirping “what do we do?”
If it wasn’t so tragic it would be hilarious.
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i close my eyes and see the ugly corrupt face of so called prime minister Naoto Kan.
he is wearing an eye patch a red nose flourescent radioactive tie has only one leg and one arm.
he has 6 spinning plates on sticks and a kids water pistol and a red hot clothes iron.
he is squirting water from the toy pistol and wondering why the red hot iron is not cooling.
and all the time the spinning plates on sticks are slowing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdRo7okHCAc
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Cute !
: )
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well actually both. this “dogs breakfast” of pseudo-harmless amounts of radiation is going to be the death kiss to the biosphere and probably will contaminate the entire planet.
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Here’s an idea “warloc” or whatever. How about some thoughtful comments pertaining to the subject at hand as opposed to your standard repeated ad naseum rant?Or is that too much to ask?Yeah of course it is.
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Well “Peter” or whatever, I seriously hope you’re never put in a position of having to protect yourself. Holy cow, you’re just as bad as the ones who argue about the recommendation to drink clean water and then whine about no one warning them that it wasn’t clean.
Reminder: If you have something someone else doesn’t have, they WILL kill you for it. Even on the best days it doesn’t take more than two cars and one parking space to get your ass killed here, so what do you think would happen if it came down to you and your clean water?
There is nothing wrong with protecting yourself. Now lay off – you sound like a goddamned commie.
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I agree with ya, Sassy. Peter and splashy can only be against warloc for three reasons – they are shills; they are incapable of basic thought, which includes prognostications based on available evidence; or they are terrified because they are unprepared, have NOT provided themselves with guns, ammo, and other supplies, and don’t want to hear someone who IS ready remind them of their basic vulnerability.
P and s should view The Road by Cormac McCarthy (presumably they would not be the sort to read the book)for an example of someone who IS capable of prognostication, and who is humanistic enough to share their insights with others who do not think as often or as deeply.
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wow. being down only for protecting yer sorry buttocks from some imaginary angry mass of hungry hooligans.. is a long way from real survival in the realworld. that deformed machoman attitude and pretended arrogance looks kinda’ dopey and appears to be unbelievably extremely bogus.
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You’re talking about Tepco right?
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no i’m talking about your delusional statements about needing a gun to protect yourself from your pretended angry mobs of people, stealing practically worthless items from you. you are more dangerous/deluded than the group of made up people that you wrongly fear have only one sole purpose in mind and that is to rob you. here i’ll say it again hollywood script.
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I’m with you Peter. I’m wondering if he’s making money off the sales of guns – he’s so pushy about it.
If people want to get guns and ammo, they will. No need to talk about it on every thread.
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Do you work for CNBC? Maybe the FED? GE?
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Exactly. Starting to see the comment police out in force on here. ole Afu started off sounding quite reasonable-then morphed into n Areva perception management operative b4 our very eyes..how’s that camembert today?
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I don’t think shooting at radiation will help much
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No, it won’t. But shooting will certainly stop the lawless mobs who will INEVITABLY come for you, your family, and your provisions. This is not a crisis which can be thought of in soundbites or 30 second newsflashes.
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that’s based a hollywood script, that is not reality.
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obviously these laugh a minute micro-men can’t figure that out for themselves. sorry.
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Sorry to have offended you, extra knight. I do not retract my statements, however, nor my beliefs regarding the inevitable breakdown of society.
I’m not sure where you are located, but I live in one the absolute worst ghetto areas of Atlanta, and I also teach in one of the high schools in that area. I have seen days in that school where the school was locked down for half a day because of rolling fights among large groups of students, most of whose parents came to the school and JOINED IN THE FIGHTS, including fighting with each other and throwing themselves against the locked front office doors because they could not get at the parents and kids inside, etc. Eventually it was broken up by a huge number of police with air support.
All this was over a he said/she said. I will draw my own conclusions about what will happen when a shortage of food, medication, etc. occurs in densely populated areas.
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no problem discordian, i know what it is of that you speak, some people are certifiable braindead, but yes the element of surprise can be important and being prepared can be a very important thing when it comes to survival. i’m just thinking this is a Mad Max scenario more than a temporary looters paradise that you envision, could be both. i also think that guns are not the answer, the wandering angry mobs that are hungry might be people just like you and me, so easy to go wrong. plus if somebody get the jump on you or confuses you with somebody else, they are not going to listen to your excuses, it can only go downhill from here. you also underestimate your opponent, there are people on this planet that are reasonably sane, they are just few and far between. what you describe is just a poor mans excuse for mindless violence, if you want to live out that fantasy, the laws just don’t work. your ideas of wagonwheel justice are contrived, and just plain silly to be honest. you are just setting yourself up in a losing situation, using violence to protect worthless items.
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lolol
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i agree. he needs a new script, or needs to learn how to think an original thought here and there.
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The consensus is that people are free to express themselves however they want on here.Only shills (try to) attack them for doing so Afu
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go to the mirror boy.
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Do explain…embryo
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well if there is a hunger shit more nuclear power plants will be destroyed, a nuclear ww3 scenario, I really think guns will give you a few years and its the end of your genetic line, be more creative, go build a base on the moon or Antarctica if you guys are so smart to handle a gun the rest should be easy.
BTW really smart telling about the guns, imagine the next guy you raid for a bit of water bought a gun because of your comments and kill you. shame on you.
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They have ignored the laws.
We All have Ignored The LAW.
Righteousness Exalteth a nation,
but sin is a reproach to any People.
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The Japanese government is terribly irresponsible. They let U.S. military and foreign aid travel in the radiation cloud without warning. A few of those rescuers might develop cancer as a result.
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A senior nuclear adviser to Prime Minister Naoto Kan resigned Friday, saying the government had ignored his advice and failed to follow the law. The adviser, Toshiso Kosako, a Tokyo University professor who was appointed to the post last month, said the government had taken only ad hoc measures to contain the crisis at the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant. In a tearful news conference, he said the government had used “flexible approaches” to laws and regulations, and only “stopgap measures” that were “delaying the end” of the nuclear crisis.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/30/world/asia/30briefs-Japan.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
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a tiny article buried deep within the site..
i could not even find it…
although it was a brave thing to resign..
the outcast status he will have for offending the government in his controlled society will become the norm,once society starts breaking down.
unless he does interviews with russia today news or does an arnie gunderson type web clip.
unless we here from him again spilling the bitter plutonium beans.
his resignation actions will be as relevant as a bear shitting in the woods.
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If you click on the url hyperlink in my message you can easily see the article with the title
“Japan: Senior Nuclear Adviser Resigns, Lambasting Government’s Response to Crisis”
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Thank-you for all the posts. The event indeed is ongoing yet not reported on. I would call it a 9 on the international scale as Chernobyl was a 7 and this one has plutonium, more reactors, more spent fuel rods, nuclear waste dumped into the ocean. So scary. Hard to know what to do living on the west coast. Buy more ammo? Buy more iodine? Pray?
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Buy a ticket to South America.
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I have no idea why you people are staying there! Yikes!! If you can afford $5+ of gas and all the frills in Cali, I’m sure you can relocate, right?
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I think this is going to end in the U.S. with a radiation detection device in ever household, water filters using reverse osmosis. Food is going to be a long term problem. No information from the government that can be relied on.
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It’s time to think really hard about your options when you can’t trust the food from your own garden.
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Dan,
You brought up a real good point. We have a garden, about 2500 sq. ft. It rained today and normally I’m grateful for the rain as I don’t have to water. But today, knowing what they’ve found in the milk in Hilo, I was thinking it was bringing down radiation. Normally I’ll work in a light rain in the garden and I did for about a minute until realizing the potential consequences and went inside. Not a whole lot you can do unless you don’t want to breath, eat or drink. Granted, I’ve upped my iodine and antioxidant intake through foods, spices and supplements, but what else can we do?
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Spirulina, chlorella, supplements designed to detoxify the body, massive doses of vitamin D, a daily intake of baking soda and other alkaline sources (cancer requires an acidic environment to grow or thrive) – all these, in addition to the things you have mentioned, will help to stave off the inevitable. We can’t avoid food; but with an HUGE increase in this type of dietary supplementation, a huge amount of prayer, positive thinking and all of that, plus an evolutionary history which is at least somewhat designed to respond to chance events like this, some of us may still make it into our ’90s after all.
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I used to consider myself lucky, because we get a lot of rain, and I almost never have to water my garden. But I don’t feel that way anymore. After I realized what happened, I asked myself, if I grow something, am I going to be worried that it’s contaminated? Then I asked myself, is it going to be any better next year? And I didn’t like the answer to either question.
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Buy a lot of canned foods while they still have been made pre-Fukushima, if you wait too long they won’t be any better than fresh foods. Same with instant milk (hint – NIDO is full fat and thus tastes much better than ordinary instant milk – they have a version for young children too). Also buy UHP shelf-stable milk while it’s still pre-Fukushima, if it is.
Stay out of the rain and snow.
There are natural dietary antioxidants and some other substances like Prussian Blue dye that can help, but at this time the radiation isn’t bad enough on the West Coast USA to bother with that stuff, in my opinion.
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http://www.hubberts-arms.org/index.php/topic,5608.0.html
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I would suggest an enclosed greenhouse where you can water with filtered water for your veggies.
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For those who can probably a good idea! But those Chilean grapes are looking good at the store!
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Have we been here before? Have we already experienced this? I realize it sounds crazy but I’m asking a serious question. Look around at the majority of the people who are walking around OBLIVIOUS to what is taking place. They cannot comprehend the fact that life as they have known it could end – forever. Those few of us who are “awake” and alert already know how this ends. Search your heart and remember – we have been here before. Does anyone feel “The Event”, the final act in this drama approaching? Does anyone feel the way I do or am I alone? (Read in the bible Ecclesiastes Chapter 1) The things that are now are the things that have been already. It’s not meant for those who come to REMEMBER the former things. (Fortunately some of us do) And there is nothing new under the sun. Please let me know if you feel this way – I feel so alone.
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Ashen – You’re not alone. Some people believe all time is happening at the same time. And we can somehow connect to, or “remember”, the future, the past, or even alternate versions of the past, future, or present. And it may be that thinking positive thoughts, leading to positive feelings, can somehow shift you into a better current reality.
I’ve been expecting and preparing for something like this for a long time. I even had concerns about living near nuclear power plants, and thought it would be a really good idea to get a geiger counter:) Unfortunately as my expectations keep turning into my reality, my expectations continue to get worse. So I wonder if I’m leading myself into this apocalyptic reality, and if I could lead myself out by directing my thoughts to somewhere much nicer. So I’m planning my new reality, and it’s not going to be in some dark, depressing, radioactive wasteland. Anyway, thanks for asking the question. It gave me a reason to write down my thoughts, and that always helps me sort things out.
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Were either of you born before Chernobyl, or 3 Mile Island, or are you old enough to remember duck and cover?
I remember all that, and didn’t expect to live to be 50 because of all the fear generated by the Cold War, etc. In fact, I was in Florida when the Bay of Pigs was going on, which was very weird. I remember the city going quiet as everyone was inside watching TV, afraid for what might happen or to go outside in case things went horribly wrong. I was young and didn’t understand what was happening, but it left an imprint on me so that I thought from then on that at any time everything could end without me knowing it was going to. I knew that we would not be told.
Actually, it’s interesting in that it can lead to delving into things like philosophy and other ways to think about the meaning of life and death.
The idea that you should be ready to die at any moment can be liberating. It gives the perspective that making each moment count, to have fun as you go, and to make sure you don’t focus too much on the future leaves you open to more possibilities, which could lead to paths you never thought about. If you don’t make rigid plans, then you can change them when things present themselves.
After all, none of us know when or how we will die, or how our lives will go. That is reality, and this particular ongoing event may not be what gets you, or even figure largely in your life when you look back on it. Life is strange that way – unpredictable.
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Oh sure, I remember all that. The Soviets 100 megaton bomb test, the paper they had my parents sign in 63 – “Do you want little Johnny to try and run home during a nuclear attack or stay and die with his classmates?” And if you took something besides general chemistry, you learned about reactor near misses you’d never heard of until then. Along came TMI and Chernobyl – a few weeks in the press and poof, problems all solved. Hell, if you asked what does TMI stand for in a Harvard entrance exam, I’d bet half would say, “Time Management Integration”.
I once had very disturbing dream, oh say 30 years ago. I had a very nice house, like now. And a self-aware car, like ‘Christine’ was crashing through it over and over, driving from one side to the other. So far, I was ducking it easily, like a slow bull in Spain, but my house was getting wrecked. I thought, well, maybe the rubble will be harder to drive through.
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I’m not old enough to remember duck and cover. I remember hearing about the other 2, but I wasn’t paying much attention back then. And yeah, after all this worrying about radiation, I’ll probably end up getting run over by a bus:)
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Were any of you born before Chernobyl happened, and remember it? I do. It was in the news about the same amount of time, then it faded the same way.
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Warloc and Sassy:
Go back to Facebook or MySpace or AssFace or go play house with the other weenies at your little town halls or tea parties or whatever.
Like the man said, get a grip, get an idea– or get lost.
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what “man” said? -you mean “The Man”? …why don’t you take your own advice-grow up/ get lost.
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calm calm, a good dose of proper panic is allways good in this situation, just the gun mongering is boring, the objective should be a world without Nuclear Plants and without guns!
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This is my first post to a blog. Big step.
I have really enjoyed the last five days or so,…reading THE TRUTH finally! I know that some ‘predictions’ will end up not being exactly the way ‘things’ will go down,…but darn it, you people are thinking, talking, and brainstorming together about the reality that ‘we see coming’!
To Ashen’s question: Do I feel it? A million times “Yes”! I have ‘felt’ a quickening since about December of last year. I liken to a woman in early labor. It’s a burst of energy,…IMPENDING action going to be NEEDED,….PREPARE immediately,….etc,….yet a mixture of dread and excitement. To your point Ashen,…’we’ve’ read the end of the book,….’we’ know how it ends. Indeed, many of ‘us’ have been here before. ‘We’ then,….and ‘we’ll’ now, Yes? Even “BE OF GOOD CHEER”, at times, because ‘we’ know
who has conquered the World.
Living on the west coast has already become somewhat painful. My 4# chihuahua got sick PROMPTLY on day 7 or 8,…March 18th or 19th,…was at the Vet. hospital for three days with ‘poison burns’ externally and internally, with mucus enteritis and a ‘bleed’ of unkn origin, etc. Like radiation sickness, she got well,..for about two weeks. Back into the full sad, sick bag of symptoms we went early this month again,…back into hospitalization for three days,….thankfully she has survived long enough for me to have put HER on edible clays, apple pectin, essiac tea, and to be honest, a tiny bit of Pot. Iodide! Me? Yes, I FEEL it too. Right away I started to feel something I have never felt before,…heavy lungs,TMJ, headache, cough,…yes it is spring with pollen,…BUT this is different. I KNOW it.
I have rediscovered good ol’e fashion 70′s music this week,….and I wanted to share that with you fine folks. Tom Petty, Earth, Wind and Fire,..Robin Trower,….geeze I’m just starting to scratch the surface, and dating myself! Anyway,….thinking thoughts of a happier age also connected me with my power,….I’ll say it,…my passion. We MUST stick together in order to help one another out, thus a people will always ‘come through’, Yes?
Thanks again!
Jill from Ca
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now for such a great post I have to tell you what I think, we should all learn Portuguese and move to brasil, the country will be automatically 5 times safer and has the only power plant on the souther hemisphere, then we rally to close it down. oh yes and dump those rods on the northern hemisphere.
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I think Argentina has a couple too.
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Jill…
…and We
will Live
Forever-
Until
the Twelfth
of Never-
Our Voices will Ring
Together-
as One.
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@Jill.. Hi,ya..
Thanks for posting.
I hope many people feel like you and find hope and energy to go on.. from the very lives they lead.
We are in for the long haul…and not all of us can rattle around the dry halls of science every day… trying to work it out.
Life is for living.
@Ashen..I know just how you feel.
Sure …the same old music, the same old dance…except maybe..this is prom.
It is the same story of good and evil.
@WARLOC..
I’m with you…BUY MORE AMMO
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I remember living in Bezerkly during the summer of 1970. I was walking down a street and a hippie was busy welding large steel plates to the front of a truck. “Whatcha doin’, ‘ I asked. As if it were the most common, logical response, he answered, “Makin’ a tank. Don’t want to be trapped in the city when the shit comes down.”
Not too sure how good your ammo will be against those who make tanks. Maybe you could snag a flamethrower.
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NEW REPORT ON JAPAN
By Dr. James Howenstine, MD.
April 28, 2011
NewsWithViews.com
This meltdown in Japan is a devastating tragedy. Japanese physicist Michio Kaku reported on March 14 that all three Fukushima reactors are melting down and that the battle has been lost. To make matters much worse radioactive spent fuel from earlier usage in the reactors is stored at the site. This is 300 times worse than Chernobyl as that incident had no reactor meltdown. Five hundred square miles surrounding Chernobyl are considered dead. No animals or humans live in this area.
At the same time dangerous levels of radiation in the Midwest, California, Washington, Oregon and Western Canada were reported by the Norwegian Institute For Air Research. Radioactive milk was detected in Washington State. This means cows eating radioactive particles on grass are now producing radioactive milk in Washington. Radioactive rainwater was discovered with 18,000 times greater radiation than acceptable federal standards in San Francisco, Cal. Radioactive food is very dangerous as it has ready access by intestinal absorption to dispersion in the body of radioactive food particles. On March 29 nuclear reactors in North, South Carolina and Florida reported detecting small amounts of pure radioactive iodine that originated in Japan. The purity proves it was not produced by the local nuclear reactors.
Everyone in Japan will possibly die from radiation poisoning. The people of Hokkaido, the northern island, may be spared because of different currents and winds. Lauren Moret, well known authority on radiation and its dangers, has reported that the radiation levels being reported near the Fukushima reactors are the same as those being reported now in the U.S.A. (reliable radiation levels have been obtained for North America from the Norwegian Institute for Air Research).
To make matters much worse 5 soil samples near the Fukushima reactors all tested positive for plutonium. The means that the airborne radioactivity in the USA and Canada probably contains plutonium along with radioactive cesium 134, uranium and strontium 90. These 4 substances are infinitely more dangerous than radioactive iodine which can cause thyroid cancer in persons deficient in iodine (95%[1] of US citizens) because the half life of radioactive iodine is only 8 days while plutonium has a half life of 20,000 years. Plutonium is very carcinogenic because a single atom breathed into the lung is capable of initiating a cancer. All European nations reported an immediate sharp rise in cancer deaths the year the Chernobyl disaster occurred. At least 500,000 persons were believed to have died in Russia in the vicinity of Chernobyl. Cancer statistics will become distorted because it will become impossible to know what percentage of total cancer deaths are being caused by Fukushima radiation.
Hopefully the nations of the world will offer asylum to Japanese citizens who understand the magnitude of the problem and desire to leave (S. Korea, China, Philippine Islands and Russia offer easier access).
The prevailing winds from Japan will carry radioactivity into all of North America, South America and directly to Europe. Radiation has already been detected in South America (Colombia). There is no plausible way to stop radiation from continuing to spew out of the reactors in Japan short of encasing the reactors in concrete (This can only be accomplished by complex excavation below the damaged reactor which requires a long time to complete). Since the Fukushima reactors can not be promptly encased eventually all countries and oceans will become badly contaminated by radiation. The death toll easily could go into millions perhaps even a billion persons. The current population of Japan is about 128,000,000. Multitudes of persons will die from starvation caused by infertile soil due to radiation damage and lack of fish. Since cancer is a common problem many cancer deaths will not be attributed to the radiation exposure from Fukushima.
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A succint description of the “arena”.
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/
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“Radioactive rainwater was discovered with 18,000 times greater radiation than acceptable federal standards in San Francisco,”
I think that was 18,000 percent not 18,000X
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The situation of our corrupt government and over-grown military..is a situation that could be overhauled..if the sheeple had any awareness of the situation and we had a voting process that was not corrupted.
The people voted this situation in.
It is hard to fathom that this is the will of the majority both on the right and the left.
Toxic/radiated air and rain will affect crop production.
Some of us plan to protect our provisions.
PS.Some of us will resist.
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Indeed Jack,….you’re singin’ my song!
Thanks for that! And, thanks for the ‘welcomes’!
Jill
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Let’s cherry pick a few of Dr. Howenstein, MD’s statements:
“Everyone in Japan will possibly die from radiation poisoning.”
“…has reported that the radiation levels being reported near the Fukushima reactors are the same as those being reported now in the U.S.A.”
Ergo, everyone on the coast is toast. Gee, I sure hope this guy is overstating the facts. I don’t think he’s overstating this one:
“There is no plausible way to stop radiation from continuing to spew out of the reactors in Japan short of encasing the reactors in concrete (This can only be accomplished by complex excavation below the damaged reactor which requires a long time to complete).”
Can’t even think about excavation until you get a closed cooling loop and that soil can drain a bit. More Boron? Let’s start digging up Death Valley, sack it up and carpet bomb Fukushima, as good a plan as any and just as much chance of working.
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Has anyone noticed how the freshly released, concentrated radiation clouds are circulating around the island of Japan before catching the prevailing winds to the U.S. and Canada? This process must be depositing dangerous levels of the longer lasting fission products everywhere.
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The dots are not connecting, why aren’t there more “official” or “health authorities” in the US screaming to stop and entomb Fukushima?
We think nothing of invading country after country in order to steal and extract it’s resources. So why aren’t the freighters filled with Boron, Bentonite, Zeolite and steaming towards Japan for an “invasion” Just mute silence and continual insistence that all is well.
How many different levels of incompetency or other agendas are really brewing behind the headlines?
All powers that be should know the dangers of low level radiation.
It’s not the loud noise that break glass molecules, it’s the frequency.
It’s not the strong microwave levels that cause cellular damage, it’s the frequency
It’s not the strong wireless signal that causes cellular damage, it’s the vibrational frequency.
It’s not just high levels of radiation that cause damage, extreme low levels of radiation do too.
These extreme low levels of biologically significant radiation hit North America Mid March 2011.
In 1972 Dr Abram Petkau discovered that low levels of radiation, over a longer period of time, were more damaging than higher doses over a short period of time.
Once you ingest or inhale even very low levels of radioactive particles the Petkau Effect immediately starts potentially lethal tissue ionization.
The phenomenon of the Petkau Effect basically means that you are ionizing or irradiating yourself continuously from the inside out.
This insidious burning at your molecular level will impair your body long before there is a diagnosable disease.
Chernobyl burned out of control for just 10 days and killed nearly one million people and counting, according to the New York Academy of Sciences.
Many deaths will never be included in the official count, because their cancers won’t be connected to Chernobyl. The long term impact of a compromised immune system and the subsequent health challenges will never be officially traced to Chernobyl.
Once radionuclides are released into the environment they circulate and are carried with the winds until they become part of the soil and food chain. They land in our drinking water, are on the pastures that our livestock graze on, are on our vegetables and in our fruit trees.
This is particularly dangerous for humans because we are at the top of the food chain, where the higher concentrations of radionuclides are.
Most Common Diseases From Ionizing Radiation:
* leukemia
* lymphoma
* solid tumors or any organ
* bone & blood disorders
* lung cancer
* breast cancer
* endocrine disruption
* reproductive abnormalities
* accelerated aging process
* birth defects
* congenital malformations
* kidney, liver damage
These diseases and mutations don’t stop with us. If ionizing radiation enters our genes, not only does it cause irreversible damage to this generation, but to future generations, as evidenced by children being born years after Chernobyl.
The health effects immediately after Chernobyl through my body into a loop for a year or so, but I survived and am stronger than ever. Since March 14, in the Pacific NW we’ve been aggressively detoxing ourselves our animals and our soil. I continue to drink raw goat milk, from goats that are also detoxed with Bentonite clay.
What are you doing to protect yourself?
Not everyone anywhere will die, but many will, and many more will have enormous health challenges.
Don’t be passive, be aggressive!
http://www.natural-health-home-remedies.com/radiation.html
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soy de un pais tercermundista (de un lugar que ud no han escuchado: cd. bolivar, pais venezuela) y veo con mucho temor lo que ocurre, es un genocidio y me siento impotente por todo lo que pasa, yo temo por ti y por todos nosotros, algo inminente esta ocurriendo, a donde llegaremos?. Saludos y que dios nos cuide a todos
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@ Maria Rivas
Thank you and good to hear from you !
Yes many of us here are think about the many in the world and the future.
Please stay with us here so we can all hold hands through this !
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Muchas gracias y buena para oír de usted!
Sí, muchos de nosotros aquí son pensar sobre los muchos en el mundo y el futuro.
Por favor quédate con nosotros aquí por lo que todos podemos tener manos a través de esto!
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am from a Third World country (of a place that you have not heard: cd. bolivar, Venezuela country) and see with much fear what is happening is genocide and I feel helpless for everything that happens, I fear for you and all of us, something imminent is happening, where we arrive?. Cheers and God cares for us all
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Cheers back to you too Maria. Never before have ‘we’ ALL been so interconnected! And, ‘their’ folly is going to end—FINALLY. (That’s the only upswing I see from here at least).
More shall be revealed,…….
Jill
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Wow. An outbreak of truth! Things must be getting desperate.
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and this has barely started, omg people are ready for redemption already!
I know, I understand, I doesn’t matter, just transfer all your money to me and ill make a nice place for us to pray together and be pure again! If you are in the first 200th I’ll even let you and your family sleep inside.
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BTW folks it would be worse if the LHC at CERN makes a black hole, or any1 here thinks it’s safe or like they put it, it will almost certainly evaporate in the 70% chance of being created. now the “almost certainly” sounds a lot with “not immediate” and I serious don’t believe that, I am almost sure that a black hole doesn’t really care about it size, just wants to eat. I just hope I have time to tell my wife and my small baby girl I love them once more.
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Maybe we can accelerate ourselves to surf the folding event horizon,
split the cosmic Moebius yin-yang, and meet up with Cap’n Kirk and
Cap’n Piccard and defeat the Nuke-Monster retroactively.
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