Published: March 28th, 2012 at 9:48 pm ET
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Title: Still critical: radiation levels at Fukushima can kill in minutes
Source: The Independent
Author: David McNeill
Date: March 28, 2012
[...] Critics say the fresh findings illustrate the still precarious state of the complex. “The problem for Tepco is that the damage is so severe to the base of the reactor, and the amount of water is so low, that any interruption to the water pumping could be serious,” said Shaun Burnie, an independent nuclear consultant. Mr Burnie said the company must get more water on to the melted fuel and stop contamination from making its way into the environment. [...]
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See also: NHK: Suppression chamber "may have been destroyed" at Reactor No. 2 (VIDEO)
Published: March 28th, 2012 at 9:48 pm ET
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Would REALLY like to know where the leaks are in the containment and/or suppression torus and associated piping that are keeping the water level so low. I don't know how they are going to fix the leaks even if they can find them. Who could get close enough to weld the patch? Nuclear reactors are insane.
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And No. 1 and 3 are even worse (VIDEO)
http://enenews.com/tv-radiation-levels-10-times-higher-than-experts-hoped-at-reactor-no-2-even-higher-at-no-1-and-3-video
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I am sure that they know exactly where the leaks are. The bs explanation that electronics will perish in the strong radiation is just a smoke screen. They just proved that they have equipment wich can withstand 73 Sieverts (the endoscope).
Did you wonder how they got the endoscope into the building, around and across all the rubble that is probably all over, moved into position of the hole they drilled through the rpv wall earlier, and back out again. Whether they used a robot or sent some poor worker in, they would get the info. It would be naive to think that they only used the endoscope on the hole in the rpv wall, now that it was inside the building. My point is that they must be having video footage of the inside of the reactor buildings. Why we are not allowed to view them is quite another matter.
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Have a look at the video a couple of weeks back taken by Quince 2 in unit 2. There are two portions with a strong probability of having been edited where the robo cam is in the act of looking over a wall at something bright. Some 10 seconds have been overlain and the image shrunk.
I think that the results are being concealed from the public in the same way that doctors in the past concealed from patients news of their terminal condition. Not that I think that the public is facing a terminal condition (though it may be). Rather, the experts want to pick it over themselves without the annoyance of having to deal with "stupid questions" from the "ignorant uneducated." That attitude is both understandable and unforgiveable.
Until those snobby bastards get out of their hidey cave and face the rest of us with guts and honesty we will be told nothing.
They have never had to justify honestly their industry and its practices.
M
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"said the company must get more water on to the melted fuel and stop contamination from making its way into the environment."
Hopefully the water spigot will get turned back on after the ¥1 trillion capital injection, and corporations agree to rate hikes.
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The BP…Yeah, lets just pour all the water from the oceans, steams, lakes and rivers on it. When we are out of water, then we can just die, falsely believing we had done all we could to stop run-away-armageddon…
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For my last post tonight, I posted this HERE AT HP
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/28/mitt-romney-wisconsin-humorous-story_n_1386383.html#comments
"Well this is nothing we didn't know about the Republican party. Selfish sons of _____s.
Want to know something much more important? Much more PRESSING???
JAPAN IS "CHINA SYNDROME"….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yedeYN5XTZo&feature=youtu.be
Whether it shows or not…
EVACUATE JAPAN!!
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From the NRC FOIA …a conversation about reactor 2 and 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP05OsUsm3o&feature=relmfu
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*On Now* Rense Radio "Jeff Rense Program" here's the App, live feed for …
http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/livefeeds/16k.asx
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I've watched the documenatary about chernobyl several times. you get the feeling that the scientists and the people were willing to do anything they could to save their country and other countries. And they did sacrifice, and they survived. They evacuation zone would be considered enormous in comparison to Japan's land mass.
One realizes that the sacrifice and sheer luck of chernobyl saved us all. I don't see that dedication in Japan. Not from the scientists, the goverment, the people, they seems so helpless and apathetic, like they are waiting to hear the worst…a mass harikari….and then the rest of the world looking on with the same attitude or just ignoring or ignorance…and I wonder…how can this ever turn out OK?
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many moons,
Number of reactors amount of tonnage lost in burn and meltdown is measurably higher in Japan also !
The fact is, .. they know the world was screwed form the beginning,… remember the first plant Foreman and his cry's of apology's ! ??
He knew it was the beginning of the end !
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I agree. There is a sharp contrast to how the Russian government and it's people managed the nuclear crisis of Chernobyl with clearly a goal to save lives and how the Japanese government clearly has not managed with a goal to save lives. The Japanese government and TEPCO consider the Japanese people as well as all people to be expendable. It is all about money for them. They are despicably evil and it is horrifying.
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many moons,
thank you for expressing the inexpressible so well.
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many moons, please remember that documentaries are cut and spliced together after hindsight, and that times were different then all over the world. Corporations had power, but, nothing like they have today. Media still suppressed information, but, investigative journalism existed where it is nearly extinct today. Where once dozen of eager, hard hitting journalists covered a single story, now the media pays one, maybe two. So, that shrinks the truth quite a lot. Finally, there was a greater sense of community than one sees today – one of the downsides of the spread of capitalism is the erosion of shared community interests replaced by self interest. What was known about Chernobyl was not shared with the world for many, many years, and what radiation testing that was done in the US, for example, as radiation clouds passed over here was usually not shared with the public. From my perspective, after all these years, very little has changed. And, finally, let's not forget the older Japanese men who volunteered to labor, exposed to unknown quantities of nuclear radiation everyday in order to try and prevent a worse nuclear nightmare from happening at Fukushima, knowing the risks and figuring that they had already lived much of their lives, so were willing to give them in service to their family, friends, country, and the world. We don't even know their names.
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+ a zillion, Vic
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For those who have yet to see here are numerous Chernobyl documentaries
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/forum/index.php/topic,81.0.html
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Maybe there is a microbe which can attack and alter extremely radioactive materials.
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I wouldn't give any suggestions like that… We're all so radioactive by now, we'd be food #1 for any microbe… Some of them are scary enough Anthrax, Yarsinia pastis, Francisella tularensis, hemorrhagic fevers, botulinum toxin, variola major, to name a few
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well the russians have been studying microbes that transmute elements from one element to another.
i like my idea, as it is better than nothing, use a horizontal boring machine and bore under all these buildings and place refrigeration tubing there and freeze the ground solid. but hey there are the earthquakes and all the other unknowns in pandoras box, but i know one thing if the whole area is frozen then there wouldnt be any water leaking except down from where the corium is, perhaps this is how they will find it(with a boring machine with a temp/geiger sensor). i am pretty sure by now if there were mega pressures that it could punch into, such pressures would have manifest themselves by now so the risk for blow back could also be minimalised with a bit of ingenuity. just a thought.
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Probably started already, our ingenious microbes.
Check "black dust", Cyanobacteria, alpha emission.
[warning: may contain traces of speculation]
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general electrics containment system failed out the top and it failed out the bottom. not counting the over-fueled reactor #3 which vaporized, the normal failure scenario failed in #1 and #2. this proves beyond doubt those type of machines must be decomissioned imediately here in th U.S.
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"…..stop contamination from making its way into the environment."
The reactors are sieves, same as they have been for the last 12 months. It doesn't matter if the corium is in the vessel, containment chamber, or outside. It's all one and the same. Water goes in, isotopes come out, on and on and on. And people point to the atmospheric release while the cores are being mainlined into the water table.
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Agreed & add that the water goes directly into the ocean too, all of it.
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As stated it is truly about greed. They know that the environment is contaminated with such a long list of poisons. They are on a rush to make as much money as possible in the shortest amount of time. A reporter for the Daily news has been on radio stating how much advantage there is to expanding research on the moon & Mars. Governments are eliminating environmental regulations that took decades to get in place. All so that companies can make more money without concern for the environment. With austerity measures being put in place & services cut, they ensure that most of the worlds population will forever be in poverty. And as a result never able to truly fight back. Everything is being put in place to keep their boots forever on our throats.
We are indeed expendable. As you are aware there is a large push for people to accept robots as friendly & useful. They are used more & more in music videos & advertisements. We also know that companies are working hard to eliminate more & more jobs by using robots in some form to replace us. They expect to be able to replace a third of the worlds workforce with robots. So they don't need us, nor will we be paid to sit at home while robots do the work. By poisoning us & controlling what type of medical care we receive they ensure that we will pay for medical care that is only intended to extend our suffering & flow of money until we die.
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The hole in the ground is going to devour us all. Well at least we know nuclear death is a Christian death. The irony makes my brain want to implode. When they get a bigger pump to make bigger holes in the ground and subject workers to 71 seiverts/hr give me a ring.
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'D',…rated,…..horror,….movie.
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