Published: November 14th, 2011 at 11:26 am ET
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Title: Arnold Gundersen with another Fukushima report as radiation levels rise in Japan
Program: If You Love This Planet
Date Aired: Nov. 11, 2011
Description: This week, Dr. Caldicott once again chats with Arnold Gundersen, a nuclear energy consultant with Fairewinds Associates, about the ongoing situation at the damaged Fukushima nuclear power plant in Japan. [...]
Excerpts at ~29:00 in
- “All three reactors that were running had an enormous amount of plutonium in them”
Download or listen to the program here: http://ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=5219
Published: November 14th, 2011 at 11:26 am ET
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Everybody stand up and cheer….”HIP HIP HURRAY”
Just such a marvelous way to start a Monday, not even noon thirty and already roaching my buzz. Listening to this just gives me such a warm fuzzy feeling inside. :\
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It’s nice to get screwed first thing in the morning. Thanks Japan.
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The united states of America and Canada are criminally omitted their continental levels of plutonium contamination.
They have withheld this data since 3/11.
My guess is the United States collapsing economy would be so heavily impacted by releasing this information that the upper branches of government have put a freeze on information sharing. To limit economical damages to their corporate and financial infrastructures.
The plutonium contamination will have great consequences to west coast citizens. Be prepared for Zardos…
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Hi Tacomagroove – Do you think it’s just the west coast? After reviewing this map again, I’m wondering about the south, too.
http://www.zamg.ac.at/pict/aktuell/20110325_Reanalyse-I131-Period2.gif
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In my opinion the Majority of ‘plutonium’ Contamination stretches in a descending rate from Fukushima to rhode island. Fukushima being the heaviest level of contamination and rhode island being the lowest level. This projection is estimated using the isotopes weight, in comparison to early dispersion forecasts. Vs known isotope trajectory.
In short
iodine went x amount of distance.
So plutonium which is a percentage of that weight, traveled ______% of that distance.
The main areas I suspect as having plutonium contamination Would be central to the jet streams movement which is a trajectory covering Central California to British colombia. (Although the radiation had been detected as far north as alaska, and as far south as Mexico).
Another indication that the radiation is more heavily dispersed in the center of the jet stream is the nuclide sampling provided from portrblog. (www.pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/) Who has detected long half-life radiation in St. Louis. (Central Usa. / Midwest).
The sampling from portrblog shows that High level radiation Has clearly burnt its way to the United states midwest. Which indicates to me that Washington, Vancouver Canada, and Oregon will show higher levels of contamination in respect to the element plutonium.
I doubt neither Canadian, nor United States Representatives will address this contamination. (For years to come). So I suggest users here begin the long and agonizing process of relocation prior to their warnings.
In my opinion the contamination is lethal in Washington state. Not by instant / exposure; but by overdose rate.
I would assume from the data presently available that radiation doses in St louis are equally as contaminative. (or in better words above the realm of human safety aswell).
I would advise all users living west of st louis; To begin considering the possibility of relocating to either a southern nation or eastern state.
One should suspect even more bad news coming…
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How is it everyone get the POTRBLOG name wrong?
It’s “Pissin On The Roses BLOG” Not portblog..
C’mon people..
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Eastern States? How many dozens of Nuke plants are there? Missouri? down river from the Fort Calhoun disaster? GMO ville…
Have you started to make your moving plans Tacoma?
I know I would not stay in the pit that is Tacoma.
Best wishes on for your re-location plans.
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Hey TG,
Being from Vancouver Island this issue was top of mind mere minutes after the multiple explosions. I shared my concerns with a large e-list of people mostly enviros and media.
My main topic of concern was plutonium.
I searched and searched again for information regarding plutonium and its capacity to travel great distances after such explosions. I found very little information.
Most of what I did find eplicitly explained the properties of this particular radionuclide to be, in laymans terms, too “heavy” to travel the distance that exists between us and the point of the explosion.
I am wondering if anyone has anything specific that suggests otherwise. Clearly radioactive particles have reached our coast and Arnies expose of hot particles being close to parts of southern Japan existing here on the west coast was a real eye opener but I noticed he did not explicitly define hot particles as plutonium and did not specifically suggest that this was a concern.
Obviously this is horrible news for the people of Japan as we have all known all along, but your writing suggests you are confident that such radiation could reach our shores.
I would be interested in any supporting documentation or links if you have the time and/or inclination.
Thanks
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I have never noticed this before but large parts of this thread are missing? Anyone else notice that?
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Not just the west coast:http://youtu.be/8QHXnO9wRhw
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Good point Mack,
If you look at this map, you will see that the readings down south are probably close to what some are getting.:
http://www.radiationnetwork.com/SouthAmerica.htm
There is NO ESCAPE down south. Some places are higher and some lower but in the end, there will BE NO ESCAPING from the purposeful poisoning of all life on this planet.
Also, if we can get some correlating information, we might be able to use this map as a guide to when the jet stream brings more poisonous radioactive contaminating fallout to the USA.:
http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=npac_250
ALSO, I AM CONSIDERING A QUEST TO THE WEST. IS THERE ANYONE INTERESTED IN THIS, OR SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA? PLEASE SPEAK UP AS IT SEEMS LIKE NO ONE REALLY CARES TO KNOW.
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stop at some of the kewl eateries along the way…. Really, if we are all singing the doom song eff taking care of Urself, eating well or worrying. Personally I am deep frying bacon wrapped stixx of butter.
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Oacar419-lol! You must be of the male gender. I once saw an hunting program where the guy did some outdoor cooking and every recipe started with a pound of bacon. haha
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Why would ya wanna do that, JT? Rad checking, spreading the rad news or something else that has yet to occur to me?
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Hey CF,
Why?
Good question. It may be for our own informational purposes, but also so someone is getting some kind of documented information from the west coast. We still have not seen any beach or sea measurements from the entire west coast, or at least I have not seen any. What is wrong with that picture?
So yes, it is a quest for accurate news from the west coast, and it is also still beautiful in the Redwoods. This is Holy Ground for me so the trip would be about the ride to go pray there, and the measurements in as many place as I can go. Right now, the only hold up I have is the gas expenses and the proper window of opportunity to do this.
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I still get about .13 mcSv indoors, .19 outdoors now that it is raining, up from .10 and .16, respectively. This is Willamette Valley, OR. I got higher readings than that in the Rockies and North Dakota. But always less than .30 everywhere. .08 or.10 in Florida, bumped uo .17 once during a rainstorm. FWIW
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Wow,risabee, your readings are really low compared to mine…usually between 0.33 uSV and as high as 0.49…
Sorry, I have wanted to do things like test beach sand, but I am too busy working and moving to have time to go to the beach right now. Not to mention it’s cold, and I don’t like the beach unless it’s really hot.
I do live near the water, but it’s just by a cliff of rocks that drops off into the water, no beach or sand.
Anyway James, if you are making a trip out here, that would be great. I still barely have time to test much. Living expenses are high here, so I have to work a lot to make ends meet…
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There are many possibilities, among them that my instrument is insufficently sensitive. I gather that higher altitudes in my area (Cascades) may have rainout hot spots, and sure enough the only 10 minute reading that I found (a couple of months ago) that was over .30 was up in the hills about fifty miles from here.
Radnet has seen three recent spikes in Corvallis of over 150 CPM but I don’t have proof of those here. Dunno.
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I care and am still interested in knowing James, as you already know. It seems to me that ALL areas are heavily effected and not just the coast so it would be nice to have a comparison of data from someone here.
There is an alternative high school here that went on a field trip a few years ago to Hanford and they were given some sort of gieger counters as gifts. I have been trying to get a graduate I know from there to se if I can ‘borrow’ the equipment but so far I have not beenable to make contact.
And yes Handford is one of the most polluted places in the USA.
However, people need to understand also that it has been over 30 years or more since it released any air born contaminates. It is much better known for leaking into the ground water and the great Columbia River.
That river is also the wind surfing capital of the world! Go figure…
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Thanks BSMBH,
As you put this, the enormity of what I want to do just occurs to me. Yes, there are those places that are as you say, more than likely still contaminated and the people do not know.
What was noted in the early days of post-fukushima was there was one place on the epa rednet map called Richland that showed very high readings that were certainly going down wind causing other high readings in places like Billings, MT. They quickly shut them down. Scary to think about getting such high readings on my counter.
Still, the sailor has the urge to endeavor forward. It will be some time before I can save the gas money, which will be biggest hindrance for me now. Just a poor boy here.
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To James and a traveling companion?
I’ll state my commitment again here –
If you make it this far I will provide a tank of gas on your departure and a sack lunch for the road. Do you prefer peanut butter and homemade raspberry or blackberry jam, ( I have some pre-fuku if your worried,) or a toasted seasoned tofu with sprouts sandwich? Or both!
I am also willing to set up an alternate email account to coordinate efforts if needed or desired.
Peace.
I love a good road trip!
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JT – FWIW, Richland has a uranium processing plant – Areva.
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I live a few miles from Richland. I have noticed the lack of data for Richland and have been concerned. I did not see the Radnet data in the early days. If you want to come out here to test, that would be great! I would like to purchase my own Geiger counter and test things myself, but unfortunately, my partner does not agree with my concerns. I really want to know the levels in our food and milk (I raise dairy goats). What were the readings in the early days for Richland?
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I live 15 min from Columbia River. Fun. Dont swim there. Sad.
Very very very windy here these past two days. Keeping the kids inside again.
Found out more info on PR from a Washingtonian that lives there. He says it is very dirty there (e coli in the water, etc). I’m using PR then as a backup escape place. Long term is still up in the air.
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Same here blustery and sunny….very cold too.
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Where are you at, Anthony?
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Vancouver BC
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Kintaman lives there, right?
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Ok, JT. That is very brave of you. Although I suppose it’s a rad party where we live, too. Let us know when you are close to heading out … maybe I will be more flush with dough for you.
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@JT, dutchsinse on youtube did a quest to the west in the summer and took many readings. That was a good baseline (if his videos aren’t deleted). However a baseline is useless if you dont take more readings. WE NEED YOU TO GO WEST, JT. You will have my $40.
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And if you make it to Goldendale WA, just West of Hanford by 30 or so minutes I think then I will give you that snazy long sleeve t-shirt I just got in the mail, size L. I’ll have it here at my work on Main St.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZDB-Sjidhw
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Occifer Dave – it is a day trip from my house to yours, although I don’t know if it can be made on a tank of gas. I’ll ask my relations, they travel to Goldendale every end of June till the 4th of July for the ceremony that takes place out in the county around you.
No offense man, but I have always wondered why any one would live in the desolate, cold, high plains, economic dead area that is Goldendale. Brrrr, and did I mention dusty and next door to Hanford? I definitely support you moving.
My relations have property in the Costa Rican Jungle. Three of the ten most deadliest snakes on the planet live there, and as far as I know you can only get a three month visa till you have to leave and come back. Interested in Jungle life?
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There is one reason and one reason alone why I chose Goldendale.
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I am sure it is a very good reason.
You appear to be an honest, loving, responsible family man. And I do mean this, not being sarcastic.
Anthony by the way is either on the coast of Vancouver BC, or on the Island of Vancouver BC.
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Forwarding this to the wife. ;D
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BTW, here’s a nice article that my wife just found. This my be the 2nd article she has found since March 11. Go, wife!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15691571
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Hi James, I was hoping WestCoast girl would be up to it. I am anxious and very interested in knowing what’s going on here. I live in the bay area(Silicon Valley) There is absolutely no reporting. I get my info from people on this site and a few other sites. It would be nice to know about our beaches and sea food. I haven’t been to Santa Cruz,CA since the accident.
Thanks for all you do and for posting your readings regularly.
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I’m definately going to post a lot of vids once Andy’s geiger equipment come in the mail (its on back order).
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Thank you
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I have family there Net. My dad is going downhill fast with lung/pnuemonia issues. : (
His number one hobby is metal detecting on the beach. My mom knows of 4 people within one week going in for bowel resections. Eating hot particles?
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I’m very sorry to hear that, Au.
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It is worrying. You know how it is as you are west coasting it too. Stay safe.
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You stay safer.
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“ENOURMOUS Amounts…” – A. Gunderson
MOX/Plutonium
When does it stop?
How will it stop?
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What will detect plutonium? My unit is supposed to pick up alpha emitters.
BTW-I accidentally reported your comment. They need a cancel button on that feature. Sorry.
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The plutonium is in the jet stream and it’s the first isotope that will fall to earth, half of it within 2 years.
There is absolutely zero testing of it in the US. Geiger counters won’t pick it up.
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I can’t imagine the U.S. government is not doing either extensive, or at the very least some testing for this. Their just not going to tell us citizens about it?
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I can imagine that the united states intelligence community is 100% aware of the damages inflicted towards the US national territory.
Although I doubt ‘Anyone’ will decide to speak forth ahead of the presidential election.
Users here on enenews should take the time to become familiar with radioactive contamination, as well as the preventative methods available to them in minimizing their exposure.
Pre fukushima food is almost a non reality. I suggest stalking up on mre’s. (meals ready to eat).
Eventually this will get either better or worse right…
I would be prepared for the possibility of either outcome.
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I agree. They had drones checking “background” radiation levels in D.C. and I think Seattle a few months ago. Anyone heard what the results were?
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I.E. Anyone heard what the results were?
They were withheld. lol…
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My new unit is being delivered this week. I will start posting Northern Virginia readings as soon as I get some practice.
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Here are the results for Philadelphiahttp://youtu.be/8QHXnO9wRhw
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I’d like a pitcher of Bloody Mary please….
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If ur gonna have Broody Mary. I’ll order a Scotch in the Dumps.
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why does my post say: ”Your comment is awaiting moderation.”
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Oh no … I hope ene doesn’t start moding …please admin, say it isn’t so. At fosl this was beyond frustrating.
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Yep, so it seems…so it’s not just because I did a squirrel post!
Admin, please don’t!
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LOTS of spam going on so trying to get the filters right… it is these trackbacks that are allowing them to comment without having a user name… so frustrating. Posts older than two weeks have been closed along with adding stricter language filter and bot detectors. I’ll try and find the post TG, there are so many spams now.
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stricter language filter
ooops!
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Can I still have my scotch in the dumps?
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Kahlua for me, thanx
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Beyond frustrating at FOSL? There you don’t even have to register for an account… it’s like the wild west. Please give some examples, because I don’t have much time to read many of the comments, let alone censor them. Not to mention I have no interest in doing that.
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Hey Taco,
Have not heard from you.
Did you send those samples?
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ive just spent two hours working out that post…it says
why does my post say: ”Your comment is awaiting moderation.”
answer is because you wrote it on the post!!
you will have to get up earlier in the morning taco!
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TG found the two comments and approved… i cannot figure out why they were held for moderation. It’s hard to scan for the violating keyword when I am not sure of all the spam keywords… Just let me know if there are any problems anyone ok.
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Found the problem… Was getting a lot of spam from Ugg Shoes… so it screened out everything with ugg in it, like ‘suggestion’
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If you are able to modify keywords, try a space before and after the character string, maybe.
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Oops it’s Iodine 131 and they don’t give the amount but this is indicative of criticality?
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Can we get a radioactive Silver content around reactors 5&6 so we can see if the control rods have been burned up? Why is this information not becoming available to the public? If I was anywhere in Japan it would be integral to my survival to know if an evacuation situation happened. Yet TEPCO plugs onward allowing information about events that have happened 48 hours before to tell anyone anything. Considering no one in the mainstream media is reporting events about nuclear aside from “Iran” it does not surprise me that none of them will know what hit them when people start dropping dead for “unspecified” reasons. There is enough radiation at the plant to melt boots. The areas near the China Syndrome are blinking with particle activity strong enough TO MELT THINGS! The massive fission product releases must be huge right now considering 4 years of plutonium has dropped on the ground. How much plutonium is being vented from reactors 5&6 to prevent an explosion and buildup of concentrated gasses? The physics of TEPCO’s statements are weak.
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Hey GB,
It’s more than “weak”, it is down right blatant and horrendously criminal!!!
Good observation to note that they come out with news 48 hours after an event they consider worthy of reporting. We can use this detail to determine when the waves of contamination that are insistently coming to North America will arrive in our respective areas.
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My mind can not comprehend the amounts of plutonium, cesium, and other assorted nuclear poisons now circling the globe in the air and water. And it’s far from over. Yet most people I talk to about this are blithely unaware of Fukushima, or the fact that their odds of getting cancer have gone up astronomically.
Not trying to be flippant, but does anyone else feel that 10 years down the line, there are going to be a lot fewer humans on this planet? And the survivors may wish they hadn’t?
I don’t have much hope that the criminals that foisted this death on the planet will ever be brought to justice.
My God, what we as a species of stupid, naked apes have done to this beautiful world.
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nohobear: Your last sentence says it all. It’s heartbreaking. Everyone I speak to (every single person) is unaware and if I try to tell them they really only give me scant attention. Not one person has been motivated to do any research on their own so it’s never mentioned again. Ever. I don’t understand it. If I didn’t know anything about it and somebody mentioned it to me I can’t imagine simply ignoring it. I understand why it’s not all over the news but on the other hand I don’t understand it. How can something so ENORMOUS not be all over the newspapers? It’s been covered up for almost a year now…..how is that possible? I know it’s tightly controlled by pro-nuclear conglomerates but even so…it defies belief.
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GET THIS SPINNING:
http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_fukushima_children_1/?twi
I’m posting all over HP, wherever it’ll let me.
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Whoopie! Glad you’re back! We wondered where you were!
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Hi BB. Lots going on here slowing down some now.
Good to see you all.
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Did Arnie forget to mention the thousands of tons of material in ‘spent fuel pools’, or was it just the video stopping abruptly??
Did he mean enormous amounts of plutonium ‘within’ the reactor plant building as well as the “reactor”?
I think we all know by now there were thousands of tons in the spent fuel pools. So does he mean “enormous amounts” in the reactors and ‘gigantic amounts’ in the spent-fuel pools above the reactors??
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The media has no obligation to protect the people after they got payed big money from the nuclear industry. If they cared about life on this earth the censorship would have ended. Seems like everyone can get paid off to stay quiet. When the people begin dying the economy and all that pointless money will mean nothing.
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I think that people tend to think, that things will not happen to them. The reality is well known – all people die, and many of them suffer a lot before the end. But big money are still made from cancer treatment as well. Instead of making life really meaningful, people try to provide personal security through money. It is an illusion, which kills us. We live in Nature, and Nature in us determines our inner balance and strenght as biological systems. If we lose this, we have absolutely nothing material. And what happens to my neighbour, happens to me as well – it is so evident in the case with radiation!
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What we have is a RAGING OUT OF CONTROL NUCLEAR FIRE, IN at least THREE and possibly SIX nuclear reactors/spent fuel pools.
These 3-6 out of control radioactive FIRES have SPREAD OUT OF CONTAINMENT, and they are all most likely outside of the reactor vessel. (Somehow, nobody seems to want to find out where it is, or what it is doing exactly. I wonder why not?)
Since this has never happened before, it is anyone’s guess what happens next.
At Chernobyl, the Russian government dumped helicopter loads of boron on top of the melted reactor core. The melted fuel mixed with huge amounts of sand and boron, forming a kind of glassy substance, which melted down through several floors underneath the reactor.
The boron and sand mixture slowed down the out of control radioactive fire and nuclear chain reaction in the melted material. As the melted mass melted its way downwards, it slowed and cooled, forming massive radioactive pools, piles and streams.
You can watch the documentary movie at Youtube.
At Fukushima, they are doing little or nothing to stop the out of control fire, little or nothing to dilute the radioactive material coming out of the reactor, and little or nothing to prevent the CHINA SYNDROME.
At Chernobyl, they ordered hundreds of thousands of people to cleanup the mess, and dug a huge tunnel underneath the reactor, to fill it with refrigerated concrete, in order to prevent the melted fuel from reaching groundwater and causing a second, much larger explosion, which they estimated would KILL EVERYONE ON THE PLANET.
At Fukushima, they are doing NOTHING by comparison, for up to SIX TIMES the melted radioactive fuel and up to 6000 tons of spent nuclear material around the plant, that could go up in a groundwater/melted fuel explosion…
This is potentially a global life extinction event, and the government/Tepco plus the nuclear industry watchdog agencies are ‘massaging’ the news to make it look like they it under control and near shutdown.
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The upper limit is, IIRC, ten reactors. The same amount of ground, or near, dropped out from under Daini and broke some pipes. A BWR is stable until dropped, like a stack of plates. Smoke issued from at least one of the buildings before the arrival of the tsunami.
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(insert sarcastic overtones here)
At this point build them reactors, make them HUGE with untested technology and then put them as frequently as a common cold virus at Disney World. As a matter of fact I think Disney Japan should move their entire facility right next door to the reactors, it would be a great ride. I want to roast a marshmellow over some steamy hot corium…
I mean really, what are we going to do as a species? Blow up another reactor or two and make it worse? Arnie said it, other than a few places with larger concentrations the entire planet has a nice sprinkling of bad things…
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I know every day we get bombarded with more and more bad news regarding this disaster, but can I give you all a bit of advice? Don’t let the stress kill you first. Try not to worry too much about things we have no control over. I know all this is terrifying, frustrating, fascinating, angering, and sad. But we really have no control over any of this now. It already happened (and still is). All we can do now is educate ourselves and try to protect our families the best we can. But we can’t change the reality of it all. It is what it is. Don’t let this event consume your life and take all the joy out of it. There are still many, many wonderful things and people in life to appreciate and enjoy. We all die. It’s not a matter if, but when and how. Every person dies, but not every person lives. By the way, I’m in Japan.
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Thank you for the timely and kind reminder. I have those thoughts myself.
I am prepared for the usual earthquake, ice storm, hurricane things that can happen. I filter my air and water, I am making plans for a green house for spring, knowing that all it will do is keep the rain off the plants, but not the exchange of air.
I have drastically changed my diet and I am holding my family close. Some of them will not believe me that this is an ongoing concern, so I just keep buying them vitamins and minerals and they take them.
The air here today is crisp and clear and has no foul odor. The sky is blue and the few clouds are fluffy and white. The trees appear healthy and green except for the ones that are giving us the orange and red fall showing of their leaves.
I know there is poison around us and yet I look outside and I think that this is, as beautiful, and as good, as any place to die.
While I am waiting for that to happen, I do plan on living my life to it’s fullest.
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Thank you for the kind comment. I am happy to see you are enjoying life, even in these hard times. There is still much in life to appreciate. Just focusing on all the negative things really will send us to our graves sooner.
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That’s an absurd statement to say “we all die” and to “enjoy life while its here” because a nuclear plant threatened all of our rights to be alive. The difference with this catastrophe is that there will a massive drop in the ability of people to reproduce without genetic deformation. I don’t want to see the mutations in the population, however I must witness it because I am alive and aware of the health situations that will happen because of this.
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both Grampybone and Digilert strike a chord in me.
+2
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Dear GrumpyBone – No one here wants to witness the horrible deaths and deformities that is predicted to strike us all.
It truly is amazing what a human can live through.
We have had literally decades of uncontrolled poisons being thrown at us from the sky, soil and water. Pesticides and antibiotics and vaccinations and even pasterized milk!
Being mad can make someone want to do something to try and change things. Staying mad will send you to the grave sooner.
Are you saying you will not seek any joy for the rest of your life because you are waiting for the horrible things to manifest instead?
It is evident to me, for myself, here on this board, anytime I say any word about feeling healthy, or enjoing the beautiful sky, fresh smelling air, or the sounds of children playing I am told that “I should NOT BE SO HAPPY! This is Serious Depressing Stuff and I should be sick and sad and mad.”
I feel those things sometimes, but it is not how I intend on spending the rest of my days. Granted, I am 54 and may not have that many days to think about anyway. Therefore each is more precious than the last. And I do have young grandchildren.
Peace Grampy, no harm intended.
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I’m not quite sure why you think my statement was absurd. To think that if we try hard enough, we can be ‘in control’ of our lives, our money, our health, and our fates, and destinies, etc is clinging to false hopes. It can’t happen and never will be. No one is in control of anything. Anything in our lives can be taken away from us without warning in a microsecond. That is why I said to enjoy and live life now, while trying to protect the ones we love. And to be honest, the radiation probably won’t kill most of us (at least outside Japan). Usually diet-related heart attacks/strokes/cancer, car accidents, smoking, drinking, lack of exercise, lack of sleep, or stress kills off most people. Not ionizing radiation. And you really want to know a greater threat to most than ionizing radiation? Do some research on the effects of EMFs and electrical fields on the human body, and their relationship with increased cancers and other diseases. Now that is something serious that is easier to avoid. I am not downplaying the seriousness of this nuclear disaster. Heck, I’m in the middle of it. All I was saying that in the middle of all this, we shouldn’t forget to live life to the fullest. Don’t let the stress kill you first.
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Oh, and one other thing. This book changed my life and whole way of thinking, and is helping me to make it each and every day through this terrible disaster. Hopefully it will help you, too. Give it a try: http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Zen-Living/dp/159257243X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321328864&sr=8-1
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Living life to the fullest just does’t mean the same thing post 3-11-11. I’m on the West Coast, have a 3 year old, and another on the way in 5 months. There’s nothing zen-like about this situation.
We have evidence of what happened in the 80′s in Europe and Russia. To think that Fuku won’t be materially affecting people in the US is akin to sticking your head in the sand. This is going to be the new 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon, except this time you’ll have any number of elements/isotopes standing in for Kevin.
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Agreed!
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For all the biological computers that RESISTED being “culturally, ethically and morally sociopathysized towards the symbiotic lifeglue aka biomass” by the “Capitalistic Algorithme aka Operating System That Brings Profit” during their lifetime.
I wish i could live long enough to meet them. Here’s to you all my friends….i’m a misantroop in something like love having a drunk ,a smoke and a tune while it lasts. Cheers…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ebR_8UKAY&feature=related
“Dance Me To The End Of Love”
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Japan is entering into the first phase where denial becomes very difficult in the face of consequences as they begin to manifest themselves. The next few months will start eroding the foundation of the government, as the people of Japan start seeing the results of the meltdowns and their releases. The next elections will be very telling. The truth is about to become very difficult to deny. Unfortunately, it’s too late to prevent the widespread suffering.
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Im beginning to think the rest of us are about to learn the Japanese have radiation survival experience and skills.
They aren’t freaking out for a reason.
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Plutonium 238 will decay to Uranium 234 after alpha decay occurs
Uranium-234 is an isotope of uranium. In natural uranium and in uranium ore, U-234 occurs as an indirect decay product of uranium-238, but it makes up only 0.0055% (55 parts per million) of the raw uranium because its half-life of just 245,500 years is only about 1/18,000 as long as that of U-238. The path of production of U-234 via nuclear decay is as follows: U-238 nuclei emit an alpha particle to become thorium-234 (Th-234). Next, with a short half-life, Th-234 nuclei emit a beta particle to become proactinium-234 (Pa-234). Finally, Pa-234 nuclei emit another beta particle to become U-234 nuclei.
U-234 nuclei usually last for hundreds of thousands of years, but then they decay by alpha emission to thorium-230, except for the small percentage of nuclei which undergo spontaneous fission.
The radioactive isotopes Iodine 131 (short half-lives of 5 and 8 days) decays to long-lived Caesium-137 (with a half-life of 30.07 years) and Strontium 90 (with a half-life of 28.78 years). Barium 137 (half life 2.55 minutes) is the decay product of Caesium-137 (30.17 years, and a common fission product).
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-Correction- Iodine 131 decays into Xenon 131 which releases low y-radiation.
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@Oscar419 LOL bacon plus bacon equals bliss. As does Shiva Shanti mixed with Northern lights
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I feel the same about where I live…sometimes it’s hard to connect what I read here with what I see outside. It’s really beautiful here, and everything looks perfect and healthy.
But I know the radiation is reaching here just like everywhere else…
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“Plan? Got no plan!”
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Exactly. I’m from the UK too. See my recent post above.
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The nuke industry has the msm locked down
http://1389blog.com/2011/07/19/who-owns-the-media-and-what-can-we-do/
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Gunderson is behind in telling us about the contents of the reactors. Most people on this forum knew that plutonium was in the explosions since the beginning because ENENEWS has been the first and most accurate reporting on the events of Fukushima. I believe Gunderson had to confirm scientifically that the fuel pellets burst out of the plant before telling the public unconfirmed science. I commend him for being careful with his studies. TEPCO held the information about the MOX fuel as long as possible so confirming its validity must have been painstakingly hard for Gunderson to piece through to state that plutonium specifically spread after the explosions.
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I find Arnie’s info enlightening. There’s gotta be reason he stands alone sharing this with us without a colleague of his in sight. A courageous human.
Can’t be easy.
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He’s in Vermont, they can always lure him out with some Ben and Jerrys…
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Right on Gramy…Err on the side of scientific caution. Don’t spew it till it’s proved.
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