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Nuclear Expert: US allows very high levels of radiation to be released from nuke plants — EPA says not protective of public health (VIDEO)

Published: January 11th, 2012 at 10:10 am ET
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Nuclear Russian Roulette – Pt. 2 – Q & A
Uploaded by: eon3
Date: Jan 10, 2012
Description: This is the question and answer session following Dan Hirsch’s [UCLA professor] presentation to the San Clemente, CA City Council.

Transcript Excerpts at 16:00 in

  • [NRC permits nuclear plants to release] noble gases (xenon, krypton, argon)… Tritium, Cesium, Strontium at certain levels…
  • “Those numbers are very high”
  • “EPA has criticized them as being not protective of public health”
  • “NRC basically says its hard to run a reactor without radioactive releases, so go ahead and release this much each year”
  • “Risk is pretty small compared to risk of an accident”

See the full presentation here: Nuclear Expert: Reactors produce 50 years of electricity and half a million years of waste -- Not a particularly good deal (VIDEO)

Published: January 11th, 2012 at 10:10 am ET
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30 comments to Nuclear Expert: US allows very high levels of radiation to be released from nuke plants — EPA says not protective of public health (VIDEO)

  • Joe Ebslap
    January 11, 2012 at 10:35 am

    After 3 Mile Island they must have learned that it easier to silently release the poison.

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    • hbjon hbjon
      January 11, 2012 at 6:25 pm

      It’s easy for the mind to reject the nastiness of the releases into the ocean. Most everyone can’t understand the magnitude and what it means. That body of water next to f1-f4 has a lot of Plutonium, Uranium, Curium, Americium and other transuranic elements in smaller quantities. What if the eb and flow of the tides acts to separate the isotopes into a cm? How long would that take? Why wouldn’t the water act as a gigantic cyclatron to enrich the fuel using gravity and sluice as the mechanism?

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  • jec
    January 11, 2012 at 10:58 am

    The addition of the Fukushima radiation means US nuke plants should be banned from any releases until higher rad levels drop to pre-fukushima amounts. Sure hope the high level does not become the OKAY for backqround level amount. EPA does not have much to boast about–they are not providing indepth monitoring data for the general public (aren’t we, the general public) allowed to know possible contamination. Or do we find out after the fact and when a cancer shows up…or autoimmune disease, or disabilty in children occurs…

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  • majia
    January 11, 2012 at 11:03 am

    A very dedicated activist I know is currently producing a book documenting how radiation released in the form of tritium contaminates air and water in Phoenix.

    His research would apply to other nuclear plants beyond Palo Verde.

    He has demonstrated empirically that evaporation rates from Palo Verde spent fuel pools and other sources exceed the NRC’s own standards of exposure.

    Tritium binds with oxygen and contaminates water, coming down in precipitation.

    Routine venting is another source of contamination from the plants.

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  • jackassrig
    January 11, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Engineers, in the fulfillment of their professional duties, shall:

    1. Hold paramount the safety, health, and welfare of the public.
    2. Perform services only in areas of their competence.
    3. Issue public statements only in an objective and truthful manner.
    4. Act for each employer or client as faithful agents or trustees.
    5. Avoid deceptive acts.
    6. Conduct themselves honorably, responsibly, ethically, and lawfully so as to enhance the honor, reputation, and usefulness of the profession.

    From NSPE

    Looks like we are failing miserably.

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  • arclight arclight
    January 11, 2012 at 11:13 am

    U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission
    Enhancing Reactor Safety in the 21st Century

    Dr. Charles L. Miller

    “Over the past 4 months, the Near-Term Task Force has devoted many long hours and an extensive amount of thought, deliberation, and collaboration to produce this report. The recommendations presented herein will likely require the same by those who will make decisions as to whether they should be endorsed or not. That is as it should be. The Task Force members comprise over 135 years of regulatory experience as a collective body. I have valued greatly their wisdom and dedication in completing this task.”

    “….The heroes of Fukushima shouldered the emotional impacts of the devastation around them and labored on in the dark, through the rubble, with increasing levels of radiation and contamination. They undertook great efforts to obtain power and cooling to prevent the unthinkable from occurring. The outcome—no fatalities and the expectation of no significant radiological health effects—is a tribute to their efforts, their valor, and their resolve. It is our strong desire and our goal to take the necessary steps to assure that the result of our labors will help prevent the need for a repetition of theirs.”

    http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1118/ML111861807.pdf

    fair and balanced, for the history books no doubt

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  • arclight arclight
    January 11, 2012 at 11:31 am

    i believe its the IAEA that overseas these worldwide continuous releases..

    and since fukushima has doubled the background levels that these “normal ” emmissions are a danger to the health of children and pregnant women everywhere (but especially in the asiatic, north american and european areas). this has been posited by CRIIRAD as far back as SEPTEMBER! they use the icrp dose equivilancy and still had to issue the warning.. and im glad they did, because not many others did!

    most other areas in the northern hemisphere have raised background from chernobyl and other uses of isotopic materials..

    europe has become a place where an illusive reactor (i think the iaeas very own swiss reactor see rad forum) defended by the IAEA because the new fascility will not be ready till 2014 see iaea web news for more on that! pulsing every 24 hours and the a large release for about one and a half hours!! every day for as long as the eurdep map goes back (one month)

    and the IAEA, i believe, are trying to blame it all on daichi!! now thats wrong!! i bet nuclear plants are saving a fortune losing all that waste for free!! (see above document for likely costs)

    and thats ok too?
    :(
    just my take

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  • corollnary
    January 11, 2012 at 11:33 am

    “They undertook great efforts to obtain power and cooling to prevent the unthinkable from occurring.”

    Always good to know that a group of exploding, flooded, quake stricken, radioactive waste vaporizing cauldrons is not “unthinkable”.

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  • HoTaters HoTaters
    January 11, 2012 at 11:49 am

    News you can use:

    U.S. N.R.C. blog:

    http://public-blog.nrc-gateway.gov/

    The Near-Term Task Force Review of Insights from the Fukushima Dai-Ichi accident:

    http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1118/ML111861807.pdf

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  • WindorSolarPlease
    January 11, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    EPA now speaks up about this? Let the public and media know the data.
    Shut these plants down!!!

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    • arclight arclight
      January 11, 2012 at 12:50 pm

      heres some chinese reporting of contaminated milk powder concerning a shanghi company!! still awaiting the results from the recently returned chinese research fleet.. keep your eyes peeled guys! it gonna be very interesting!! if the IAEA allows them to print it.. maybe if china stops buying iranian oil? Hmmmmmmmm? or the IAEA backs off?? cant wait to find out who will be the winner.. not a betting man myself… :(

      “Due to radiation fears, Meiji milk still bannedBy Zuo Ya (People’s Daily)16:16, December 08, 2011 Edited and translated by Ma Xi, People’s Daily Online

      It was reported that the Meiji baby formula was recalled because radioactive cesium was detected in this product. The Meiji (Shanghai) company said this recall had nothing to do with products sold in China.

      The General Administration of Quality Supervision of China confirmed that because of an outbreak of foot-to-mouth disease and Japan’s nuclear leakage disaster, China has forbidden the import of Japanese milk powder.”

      http://english.people.com.cn/202936/7691886.html

      we covered some of this story i believe, thought i would post the chinese perspective!

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  • WindorSolarPlease
    January 11, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    It’s time for the Governments to disconnect with the corporations, and get back to taking care of the environment and the safety of the public.

    You protect these evil things that’s spewing, these things aren’t going to by pass you or your family.

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  • arclight arclight
    January 11, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    of course the whole thing is about brinkmanship… example

    21 September 2006
    Brazil feels the squeeze in juice war
    “Yet as Cutrale’s financial and administrative director, Jose Cervato, points out, that did not make it any easier for the firm to sell its juice in the US.
    “Brazil now has 48% of the world orange juice market, pushing US growers into second place with just 37%. But the rivalry between the top two producers has turned sour, with both sides accusing each other of unfair trade practices.”
    And this
    “If the US is having to import Brazilian orange juice, it just means Americans are paying more for their juice,” he says.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5357866.stm

    and a bit further ahead and we get a “created” orange bubble, :/ ?

    11 January 2012
    Orange juice prices hit record

    “Traders say the main reasons are safety concerns about juice from Brazil, the world’s largest producer of orange juice, and cold weather in Florida….The US Food and Drug Administration said carbendazim, a fungicide, has been found in shipments from Brazil.”

    “Consumption of carbendazim at the low levels that have been reported does not raise safety concerns,” the FDA said in a letter published on its website.

    The FDA said it would “deny entry to shipments that test positive for carbendazim”.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16500773

    if the FDA says its not harmful and has allowed it to come into the usa in the past, whats the problem now then.. ???? and they let low levels of cesium etc go by??

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  • stock@hawaii.rr.com stock@hawaii.rr.com
    January 11, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Plutonium Fuel Rods laying in the rubble??

    Caught this from a TEPCO released sampling video. Raw Uranium Pellets just lying in the rubble, very clear cut. Maybe MOX too. Maybe some experimental fuels too. Very odd stuff these rods in the rubble.

    This is a conspiracy theory to top them all. Not only was TEPCO burning MOX plutonium fuels, they were also using other experimental fuels. They say a picture says a thousand words. Paul Langley was just writing about a similar theory and I thought I would flesh out my conspiracy with some picture evidence. Please review and comment, and follow the links. THIS IS IMPORTANT.

    http://nukepimp.blogspot.com/2012/01/exposing-some-of-big-lies-plutonium.html

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  • jec
    January 12, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    .16 uVs/h gives luekemia, .06 uSv /h children become ill, .232 uSv/h –”NO GO” and evacuation area!

    Remember the NEW allowed Japanese government dose for children is 20 mSv a year! So a little review of what that is. 10 uSv (MicroSieverts)= 1 mSv (millisievert), and there are 8760 hours in a year(24X365). 20 mSv divided by the hours in a year or 20.0/8760.0 equals .00228 mSV. Now multiply by 10 to get microsieverts, .00228 mSv X 10 (to equal uSv). Therefore .0228 uSv/h is the limit for children if they live in area with those levels for a year. So all the math whizes out there..grab that calculator..and check my math and check local exposures.

    Info from an October news report..but gives you the idea of what mSv does to the body. Not even considering the INTERNAL radiation!
    http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/10/news-we-may-be-too-late-to-evacuate/

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  • isogoodhumans
    January 13, 2012 at 12:35 am

    JEC

    Your numbers are off. Firstly, easy way to convert micro to milli is to use what we know. A gram is 1000 milligrams. A milligram is 1000 micrograms.

    1000 microsieverts is 1 millsievert. A 20 millsievert (20mSv) annual dose is 20,000 microsieverts (20000uSv). About 0.22 microsieverts, or 0.22 uSv, per hour continuous is as high as you want to be (with a margin of error) to stay under 20 millisieverts (20mSv) a year

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