Published: May 3rd, 2012 at 6:39 pm ET
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Arnie Gundersen Interview
KGO Radio’s Pat Thurston
April 15, 2012
Gundersen: Why everybody is paying all this attention to Unit 4 is that we have four years to go. That pool has to be cooled and if there’s a seismic event that either stops the cooling, or cracks the pool, or knocks the building over [...]
[...] let’s assume that it didn’t fall, but went dry a hundred feet in the air, it would be a beacon, but instead of a beacon of light, it would be a beacon of radiation, and bathe the site in high levels of radiation. That’s not something that you want because it would make work on other units darn near impossible.
Host: And if people breathed in the whatever would have been created by the smoke from the fire would that be potentially deadly to them?
Gundersen: Yes. You look at the people on the site now they’re all wearing pretty good respirators. But even that wouldn’t be good enough because of something called ‘sky shine’. The gamma rays, forget the particles that get caught in your lungs, but the gamma rays would go up and bounce off air molecules and come down as a shine of radiation over the site, and it would go right through those suits and the guys would be exposed from the ‘sky shine’ so that’s the other…
Host: Holy mackerel, I’ve never heard of anything like that. I mean this is really scary.
Listen to the full interview here
h/t rumorecurioso
Pat Thurston
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Pat Thurston joined KGO Newstalk 810 in 2007, and began hosting her own show in September 2009. She began her long career in broadcasting during her days in the United States Army where she hosted a television show.
Pat was raised in the East Bay in a family of 8 children. She left California to work for the United States Secret Service and attended Indiana University and Purdue University. She returned to Northern California, and was married in 2002.
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Published: May 3rd, 2012 at 6:39 pm ET
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#Fukushima: #genpatsu #BBC #PBS @maddow #LAW #HumanRight @BetteMidler @JohnCusack Nuclear Expert: Everybody now paying attention to Unit 4 because we have four years to go — If water lost, a beacon of radiation will bathe site in ‘sky shine’ from gamma rays (AUDIO) http://enenews.com/nuclear-expert-everybody-paying-attention-unit-4-because-four-years-water-lost-beacon-radiation-will-bathe-site-sky-shine-gamma-rays-audio
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omfg too.
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4 THOSE THAT TWEET – USE TWIT LONGER http://www.twitlonger.com/index.php/main_new
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AND put in # names in 1st, something I haven't done til just now. WE GOT TO GET MORE PEOPLE AWARE!!
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Hi Whoopie
I like when the sky shines with the sun and we breathe in the fragrance of flowers blooming, but I don't like this type of ‘sky shine’ or "breathing in radiation".
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Sweetie, I went out in the rain today to take out the trash. My 1st thought was: HORROR! But MORE IMPORTANTLY was my thought of how I used to love being in the rain, how we always went fishing on Opening Day IN THE RAIN, how nothing stopped us from enjoying our beautiful state, camping and fishing. Now I warn hub when he goes out TO COVER UP! To think…we used to LOVE it. NOW I'M PISSED! I'M PISSED BECAUSE I CANT EVEN TAKE OUT MY TRASH WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT THE DAMN RADS IN THE AIR!! soapbox collapse. I just dont know what to say anymore. i am beyond rage.
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I loved the rain too. As a child I really loved jumping into puddles.
Song: Everytime It Rains by Ace Of Bass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMhU1TRL5RE&list=PL89C3EBC75D1471F4&index=9&feature=plpp_video
"I see dark clouds out my window
I know the storm is coming any minute
And the thunder just confirms my fears
And I know the tears are in there.."
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Boy does that fit today or what? SICK PUPPIES is what I like to call the NUKE INDUSTRY. And the Peter Principle OF COURSE. All their PLANT PROBLEMS ARE WORKER RELATED it seems.
Love Reign O'er me" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygOaNo3M_Hw
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Posted below but want to make sure you see it. BRAND NEW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4GhnQrwXc&feature=youtu.be
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Whoopie,
Enjoy life now, this could get worse. We can't Rad Jump like we used to Puddle Jump, so we wouldn't get our shoes wet.
There's no way to jump over the rads, we are all breathing the rad air in.
Good idea to stay out of the rain, when you can.
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Whoopie, ChasAha and W&SP… I feel the same way! enjoy aspects of falling rains.
I am between being mindful and just enjoying a little of it. I slept with a window open the first time in many months. the cool crisp air smelled and felt amazing… I do wonder what it brings in with it… [dammit!]
I do love the rain… Thx W&SP (I know this in the back of my thick head)
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Hi truthseek
This life we have is a gift. Don't let the evils of these things take that away. We are gone from here in a wink of a eye.
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Whoopie: I admire your tireless vigour, as against myself assuming an unavoidable global extinction event from only a few days after Fukushima became known about … you might recall me saying that and that the melt-downs constituted several, permanent "nuclear volcanos".
I have not commented much since then, because I have assumed an accomplished feat/fait accompli; but I am not in the front line in Australia and so I guess it's easy for me to have a more relaxed, fatalistic attitude that permeates the predictive movie "On the Beach" … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(1959_film)
Here is the intro to the movie … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfP1FCJTlo0
Explore the rest at your leisure, but now we are REALLY in the midst of a nuclear disaster, albeit not (yet) due to nuclear war, the movie is worth watching.
More to the present point in the N Hemisphere and the NW Americas, the problems are immediate and so I sympathize with you, Whoopie, and others who want to do something.
It occurs to me that a possible way of making a multi-pronged attack on the PTB that got us into this mess, is via Anonymous … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdv5xR5YqFM&feature=relmfu
Anonymous commends multiple protests. No reason why these could not include nuclear-related locations.
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Whoopie, I hear you! I feel the same way. It used to feel so clean and fresh, and I loved to go outside and take a good, long, deep breath. No more.
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im clueless as to what the four years to go means……
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I believe he's saying it takes four years for them to cool down enough to be moved and stored in casks.
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Hi ChasAha
That is how I took it also..Question is: Can things hold up for four years?
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Indeed! That is what he is asking. And as the KGO host Pat Thurman says in a monumental understatement: "I mean this is really scary." !!! I'm just starting to call it a ver [sic]bad acid trip!
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Correct
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I thought he was alluding to when they figure they'll be able to start removing spent fuel.
ChasAha, there's fuel in that pool that's been there for more than a dozen years already. So the "five years to dry-cask" doesn't apply to #4 SFP, which has hundreds and hundreds of assemblies that could have been dry-casked years ago if TEPCO weren't too darned cheap to do it. Those babies cost real money…
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I think they are going to build a building around #4 that will support a crane. That is the 4 years.
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"Holly Mackerel", she says, "I've never heard of anything like that!!!"
Question: "Potentially deadly?"
Answer: "Yes!"
The gamma ray sky shine would bounce off of the air molecules. Masks would no longer work.
Somebody has told the workers that… right?
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@ChasAha…The sublime naivete of our MSM. Did Pat Thurman school any further than Main Stream Middle School?
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NEW TWEET!! TRUTH TELLER!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4GhnQrwXc&feature=youtu.be
With the Fukushima disaster yet another blow hit the nuclear Energy industry. While the consequences of Fukushima are yet widely unknown and the disaster is still developing, we already can see the economic impact around the globe.
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I believe I got that straight: The fuel rods in #4 SFP are extremely hot because they were put in the pool not long before the quake and it'll take some more years for them to cool enough not to burn in air. It can still suck up the oxygen from air and burns the air.
The other pools in ~#1,#2 contain SF that is not as hot for it has been plunged in water for much longer.
He says in the program: "We're relying on technology that hasn't been created yet."
You can listen to the whole program here: http://archive.org/details/ArnieGundersenOnKgoRadioPatThurstonProgram
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TY elibi. I will listen.
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LOOK AT THIS SHIT! http://radioactive.eu.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=4%3Alive-feed&Itemid=193
WE ARE DEAD MEN WALKING
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Hi Whoopie
You might be right Quote: WE ARE DEAD MEN WALKING
I know I have headaches, sore throat, dry cough, nose burning, slight bloody nose, and so on.
My Daughter now has to get a second CT scan for her heart.
You are right, these rads are effecting us all.
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I am so sorry WindSolarPlease that your daughter's heart is not right
Have you seen the recent webcam videos?
I think this is it. I think they've lost control and all hell is breaking out…
fukushima diary has some captures
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/05/fukushima-being-yellow/
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Thank You majia
Looks really bad there. Coming soon to your Country. What a horror flick we are watching before our eyes.
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WindSolarPlease,
I'm so sorry about your daughter. I hope that everything is okay. Please keep us posted.
I have had your same symptoms, especially Mid-March. I hope that you feel better. It took me about 2 weeks after the nosebleed stopped.
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Thank you majia & NoNukes
Her wedding is this Month then off to check her heart. No family members know yet..We want their wedding to be a happy time without worry. God willing all will be ok..
There is enough to worry about, her mother-in-law to be, has brain cancer now.
There is going to be more cancer and heart problems reported. It can't be helped, with what we are breathing in.
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WindorSolarPlease,….thanks for sharing that scary news with us! That means a lot to me,…being able to walk through 'it' a bit at least, with you. I shall pray.
Your strength to move the family forward with love instead of fear, is quite REMARKABLE! Great family love! Me likes!
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Thank you Sweet StillJill. I do believe God hears prayers.
The way things are going, I think all of our strengths are going to be shaken at some point. We are all human with deep feelings towards each other and this beautiful world.
I know I have days I feel strong and some days not so strong. I know and trust that in the end, God has our back.
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"God has our back"! I REALLY like that! Warm and fuzzy reassurances WELCOME here!
Thanks WSP
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WindorSolarPleas,
Sorry to hear these things, : (
What exactly are they saying is wrong with her heart ?
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I went to a Bible study where people were praying for others. Almost eeryone in the room had a relative or friend just diagnosed with cancer. The people were all asking for prayer for their friends and relatives. It was rather disturbing. I've never been in one place where the discussion centered aroumd SO MANY people who had just been diagnosed with cancer. The friend who went with me was also astonished.
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This happened yesterday. Out of 14 or so people, 10-11 people told of someone with cancer.
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Sux knowin.
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Gosh, that is so sad to hear. It is wonderful you have a prayer group to support one another.
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Hi HoTaters
Time for people to have their eyes open, there is a problem and we all are breathing it in..
Prepare emotional, there is going to be more health problems with people, even with the dearest people to you.
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WindSolarPlease, I am sorry to hear about your family's health problems. Thinking of you and saying a prayer your daughter's heart scan will prove A.O.K.
Congratulations on her wedding! Wishing you all a joyous day!
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Thank You What-About-The-Kids
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You are welcome, WindSolarPlease!
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WindSolarPlease,
I am so happy to hear about her wedding! I second What-About-The-Kids's wishes for a joyous day!
I admire your calm appraisal of our situation, you are absolutely right, as HoTaters describes below. Today, I was just diagnosed with granuloma annulare, a rash that just came out of nowhere on the back of my knees.
The dermatologist said that it is benign and they have no idea what causes it. It is connected to thyroid disease, which I have.
Yet, researching tonight, I discovered that in the past 10 years it has also been linked to acute myeloid leukemia, which is basically caused by ionizing radiation. I have had a little strange bruising lately, and other symptoms, so I will get a blood test just in case, but I would have no idea to get one if it wasn't for Enenews.
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NoNukes,…great job, health wise,…you are ON IT!
Great that they are drawing blood work!
This can be mitigated,…with your early PERSEVERANCE!
I can imagine how you must feel tonight!
Prayers your way my friend. We're in this together-please don't forget that,…tonight for sure, pretty raw, yes?
I'll pray for sleep and rest to find you!
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Thanks, StillJill. The doctor didn't order anything, emphasized it was benign. Just reading about it
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19389526
http://journals.lww.com/amjdermatopathology/Abstract/2008/06000/Generalized_Granuloma_Annulare_As_an_Initial.14.aspx
and seeing the symptoms for myeloid leukemia (bruising, fatigue, etc.), motivates me to pursue it further. I only know I have been exposed to radiation because of enenews, what about all those who don't? I am still planning on the doctor being right!
I'll let you know. One tip I saw was:
8000mg of curcumin a day (4000 in the morning and 4000 a night). Super Curcumin w/Bioperine® Time Release 1000mg-60 Tabs
Here is the website:
http://www.agelesscures.com/index.p…
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NoNukes, Thank you
Please let us know about your blood workup. Take Care
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Yes, you are in our thoughts and prayers, NoNukes. You are one smart and strong lady, so I know you are doing all you can to get informed. Good for you! Knowledge is power, as they say.
During these times, it seems often it is WE who need to educate our physicians in many (if not most) cases. So good to see you've already gotten some good resources like enenews to share with them.
Ok, you are in my thoughts and prayers. Please let us know how the tests go. Healing hugs to you and to all here who need them!
xoxo
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I hope and pray she will be completely, fully, utterly restored in perfect health.
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Amen!
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Thank You all so much))) Keep saying those prayers and spread the word so others can prepare.
Thank You for this site and people here where I am learning in what is happening.
It will be harder for people who are in the dark about this disaster.
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Yeah Whoopie. I've seen this happen sporadically over the last week. Over the last couple of days steam has been coming up from the ground steadily. From the latest feed it's getting worse. Which is a really bad sign. I think this might be why they called out for UN help. I know the paperwork says spf4, but come on… I feel like I'm watching the end of our world when I look at the recent cam footage.
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Stopnp
Did you see the yellow fog this morning? Unbelievable.
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Link me up! I saw may 2nd last. I watched potrblogs blue kitty vid too. When they said Tepgov was going on "vacation" I'm thinking they meant "vacating".
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You could be right. vacating/vacation hmmm…?
Maybe it was a minor translation or typo issue and then later they can say, "Sorry, we told you so".
"Oops" has been used before.
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Link to Yellow Fog at Fukushima
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/05/fukushima-being-yellow/
I took screen shots when I viewed it live.
Fukushima Diary has video.
Scary.
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Did I hear Vacation?? Sounds like they are getting out of Dodge and going where it is safer???..
Where's our limo??
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Just looked at it. Wow. I wonder if the stuff underground will heat things up around it to the point where it will be inaccessible.
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Watching JNN, it looks like it is coming from behind the reactors (on the other side of the reactors from the JNN cam), not the reactors themselves? What do you all think?
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I noticed that too. Sea water? Fog doesn't rise straight up from the years I've been on this planet, I've never seen anything like that before. I lived and been all over the U.S. and seen plenty of fog. I also lived in Ca on the beach. Never seen anything like that.
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Sounds like their upping the anti a bit. I'll see your sky shine and raise you Plutonium fog. Actually, sounds a bit friendly. "Skyshine…..on my shoulders…..make me happy…..".
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Just posted this comment at HP about Russia http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/03/russia-missile-defense-pre-emptive-strike_n_1473593.html#comments
I swear…between Governments all over the world and Fukushima Japan (RADIATION), we WILL be dead by 12/21/2012. I'm ready cuz this all makes me sick. Our species deserves to be k i l l e d off. We have abused our precious earth with little regard for the planet itself. "Oh the horror" Marlon Brando line fits everything we're witnessing. President Obama is worse than Bush, something I thought I'd never say.
STOP THE WORLD!! I WANT OFF!!
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ISNT THIS GETTING TO BE UTTERLY RIDICULOUS? I AM BESIDE MYSELF, I CANT BELIEVE THE WORLD TODAY! MY HUB A DEVOUT DEM IS EVEN SAYING WTF IS GOING ON!? EVERYTHING IS SO CRAZY…people shooting each other … for no reason. And not only the USA, watch RightThisMinute for outrageous videos. It's happening all over the world!! IS IT THE RAD POISON IN THE AIR? You can NOT THINK it isn't!! AT HP every a.m. I read about people YOUNG PEOPLE dying from heart attacks ect. THERE IS FUCKING SOMETHING GOING ON!! Where is our MSM? They are in the pockets of Big Industry! NO WONDER THE USA WANTS TO SHUT DOWN THE WWW. Anonymous with their VIDEO LAST WEEK…was A BOMB SHELL about JAPAN. omg…we REALLY ARE up against BIG INDUSTRY. i will never stop EVER!
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hey–take my hand. Ive been where you are. We can ride the loony bus together.
Remember. We Love. Its really all we have. Take solace in the fact that the bad people (they are death loving Satan worshippers, for real) cant feel the love. Dont give them your power by being uncentered–we need to have dicipline if were to survive. We have this planet, for now, in this existance. Lets not give up just yet.
You know, fear is the mind killer. It will lose wars. Im thinking this is what its like to be on the ground in a war. And people will live through it…..the river always flows. With or with out us.
Come on it, the waters FINE….
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…potent paragraph… agree +
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I'll get off this planet with you Whoops! I can't take too much more of, 'the conflict'! I swear it's true,…the cover-up is even worse than the crime! Like blackbudda said yesterday, quoting MLK Jr. "What hurts worst is not the things our enemies say,…it's the silence of our friends!" And,…where the HELL are all the religious giants on this? The Pope,…the vicar of God,…or so I hear,…..has he not gotten the memo yet? (He and God must be real tight then, huh?)
Saw my insurance man last night at Costco,…in the parking lot. He was loading his chevy vanagon with survival supplies! (To the roof top) He did NOT want to talk to me,…or let me see what he was loading,…acting VERY freaking STRANGE! He's with Farmers Insurance,….what do they know about THINGS? People acting very sketchy!
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Scary, StillJill. The silence is deafening.
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Exactly about the pope.
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Woah…
that is strange Still Jill
Insurance companies know a lot–especially in the upper echelons.
Yikes.
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Insurance companies might not be too thrilled about paying out health costs, due to radiation-caused illnesses, especially when nuclear disasters are specifically not covered. I wonder how long they are going to keep their mouths shut.
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Still Jill…thanks for that report about your insurance guy! Velly Interesting! [sic] Perhaps he was just taking his family on a long camping trip in an underground cave. "Inside Old Mt. Weather, …Where there isn't any…"
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This Christian news organization has information of Fukushima all the time.
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March 18, 2011
Radiation rises in seawater near Fukushima plant
Japanese Combined Disasters News
The history of nuclear power
Radiation Spike Detected in Ocean Near Japanese Nuclear Plant
Japan likely to scrap all reactors at contaminated Fukushima nuke plant
Power company says smoke spotted at another Japanese nuclear plant
Tokyo Electric Claims May Reach $130 Billion
TEPCO comes under fire for issuing erroneous info
Radioactive iodine in Russia's Far East harmless
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/newsupdates03-11a.html
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“II Incredibly, the falling tower in the Illuminati Card Game — shown to the left, published in 1995 — is the Japanese Waco Clock Tower at Ginza in Tokyo!
“This reality means that Steven Jackson, the founder of Steve Jackson Games, knew that combined disasters were planned for Japan, and he knew it in 1995!….
“’Others (foreign scientists) are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.’ (COHEN ADDRESS 4/28 AT CONFERENCE ON TERRORISM, Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy , Sam Nunn Policy Forum, April 28, 1997 University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia.)
“America’s electromagnetic wave system is called “HAARP”, while the Russian electromagnetic wave system is called “Scalar”. Either system could easily have caused the massive Japanese combined disasters on March 11, 2011. “
http://www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/newsalert.htm
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hell, they didnt even need to use that shit.there were US Battle Ships in the area and they always have nuke subs withem. Im not ruleing haarp out, but just saying. The obvious componants to an act of war are all there….
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I do not recognize this "vicar of Christ." Everyone who is saved by God is a vicar of Christ! And all are saints!
No personal jab, just have never been able to figure out where the Catholic church got off creating all the man-made Churchianity-isms. No doubt to get power and control. 'Guess it all started when Charlemagne made himself the head of "the Church."
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W.O.W. SJ, thats a trip. The insurance guy is hunkering down. Maybe he is enlightened here as one of us at ENENEWS, taking heed of the prospect of what lies before us…
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It was strange seeing him all 'disheveled-like', in a panic,…in dirty work clothes,….almost didn't recognize him. Then, he was acting so strangely, that it made me act weird too,…well, uncomfortably 'weird'. I'm still shaking my head. But he's a prepper–TO BE SURE!
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That's a chilling tale Jill.
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Then comes Godzilla?
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M I C
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hbjon! You always crack me up! Was that John Denver's song? Sunshine,…on my shoulder! Good one!
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Can't help singing, "Shine on, shine on Fukushima, for me and my gal."
Odds are, the pool would crumble before too long from the heat and stress. So the shine would be limited to however long the pool remained intact.
But yeah, write off anyone at the plant when (if) it happens within three months, max.
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The TBS/JNN live feed cameras look like there in a cloud. Is that normal?
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*they're
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No Godzilla this time Flapdoodle. We've been conditioned to relate all our situations to song and movie because, on average, we lack the real life experiences that would have given us knowledge and wisdom. The reality is a little too much for Joe the plumber to grasp so instead of using accurate experimentation and reasoning he uses science fiction and pop hits from the 1970's. BOC comes to mind. Don't fear the reaper.
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I believe NOTHING is going to be done about spent fuel pool 4.
IT IS TOO LATE
Have you been watching the webcam recently? Holy Cow.
And radiation has tripled in Tokyo, right?
And radioactive iodine-131 is being found in at least 4 Japanese cities, right?
Fukushima has been yellow on the cam! I saw it live this morning and took a screen shot.
Fukushima Diary says it is radioactive fog.
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/05/fukushima-being-yellow/
I bet Tepco is on vacation…
Serious stuff here.
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Pandoras box… we can not stop this…
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I still cannot awaken my colleagues…
the stupor is so thick.
The only ones who pay attention are a few female faculty who have children.
They seem frozen.
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majia (at your level) this is astounding to me.
I got in trouble for talking freely at
or in the workplace about this.
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did you know, that after the box was open, there was one thing left in there. Know what it was?
Hope.
I shit you not.
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Hmm when you seem disturbed it usually gets my attention. I just cant imagine seriously taking a vacation during a nuclear crisis either. It makes sense though if its really *code*.
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@Majia and all…I think the "Tepco taking a vacation" meme is their way of saying to the UN, etc., without really admitting it: "You guys know what is happening here. We can't do any more. We can't admit defeat, but we can't do anything more. We're going on vacation. So, unless you guys take over; it is, as you realize, indeed over."
It is over in the clover all over the world. "Don't call us, we'll call you."
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yep…
And conditions seem to be deteriorating very rapidly
Jet stream will be over my head Sunday or Monday.
I will be hiding inside unless it shifts elsewhere.
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We all play, poke-a-mole / ducking mole wherever we abide!
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I never asked to be a mole person.
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@HoTaters and all…None of us did. We all would rather skip through the fields and splash in the rain puddles. But here we are, hiding from the UN-natural world.
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It's cheaper to deny everything, compare it to bananas and airplanes, hire shills for the internet, than to actually attempt something that would end the danger from Fuku.
Not that it is possible to completely fix it, but nobody is even trying.
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majia,
Our Gov. had to know this would happen at some point and time, with saying that they must have had a plan in mind !
I think we know about Agenda 21 !
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I never believed deliberate GLOBAL de-population through genocide existed.
(I agree its been tried at national levels before).
I still don't think it was planned.
However, the effect is the same when corrupt and ineffectual "leaders" fail to act to protect the population.
So, in the end, intent may not matter much…
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I agree, the outcome is the same planned or not.
Population control has always been a worry for many countries. Perhaps now countries will be concerned about birth rates.
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Agree majia +100
Protection for corporations out weigh protection for the public and it back fired.
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It also out weighed the environment which we all need to survive.
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I see others coming to the same conclusions as others !
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XdrFox
How safe do you think south Florida is?
Majia
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majia, I have been wondering the same today!
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Nowhere is safe till human consciousness evolves beyond domination, self protection/exploitation, and hubris.
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Hi majia
I'm guessing, I have no facts..If the radiation doesn't get you there (which I think it has/would reach there), corexit just might.
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I had the same thought. The research coming out about the corexit holocaust is sobering.
Yet, Latin America seems so far away…
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majia,
Pretty good compared to northern territories so far !
But we all know we ALL are getting dusted each day, some more then others, 'you betcha', I stay out of the rain, there are days I go out to do my things and am terribly tired for a few days after ? This has been so since last March !
Coincidence ? … I don't think so ! because other days I have no prolonged effects!
As others have stated and have been having the same symptoms nation wide ! We are all receiving some more then others and it will be different as wind and jets streams change, this is something we all need to keep LQQKING at daily, The Jet Stream, when it is over head it is the same as enemy bombers ! ALERT !
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WOWZER!! #Fukushima: A NEW ONE FROM Anonymous The real terrorist Are Right Here At Home, Not Ov: http://youtu.be/R2qPvQvH0rg via @youtube
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YOU SEE THIS FROM nuckelchenblogde?
*FREAK-CLIMBING* @ tepco fukushima 04/05/2012: http://youtu.be/RmO4sYSIqaI via @youtube
Night all…
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Check this one out! The ground is steaming. Maybe what we've been seeing behind the buildings (or what's left of them). Freakish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_o07PszCfI&feature=relmfu
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BIG PROBLEMS
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/05/fukushima-being-yellow/
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Yellow is for Strontium. Its in that horrible video about Mt Fuji In Red.
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TWIB…Thanks. I left a comment there.
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***As of 5/1/2012, Canadian embassy in Tokyo closed the Visa department and they will accept none of the new application.
All the visa and immigration work will be moved to Canadian embassy in Philippines.
Canadian embassy is asking to have every application sent to the address below by international shipping.
No reason is explained.
Embassy of Canada
Visa and Immigration Section
P.O. Box 2168
Makati Central Post Office
Makati City 1200
Philippines
Source
PS. They closed in Germany, Malaysia, Bangladesh too. It’s supposed to be for reducing the cost and efficiency. Whatever the reason is, Canada is one of the most important evacuation places for Japanese. Taking 13 weeks to apply causes a problem. [Link]
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http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/05/canadian-embassy-closed-visa-department-in-japan/%e3%82%b9%e3%82%af%e3%83%aa%e3%83%bc%e3%83%b3%e3%82%b7%e3%83%a7%e3%83%83%e3%83%88%ef%bc%882012-05-03-13-31-34%ef%bc%89/
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Similar to when the US refused to take the boats with Jewish people trying to escape the holocaust. Evolve, human beings, or we will all be doomed.
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No way Harper will let all those Japanese into Canada, deserving or not. We have a right wing gov here pro business and anti environment. Sad. We had a great country once. Now they are pushing for a pipeline or two to cross BC and service the Chinese.
Another problem. And still no radiation testing of fish. Hope Harper will get the boot next election he's too right wing
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I hate being the doomsayer.but Im just so surprised that there are UN documents from the 1960s that detail the elimination of the majority of people on the planet by this time in history.
Surprised because, well, I just learned about that 3 years ago. Call me a consiracy ya-ya—look. The issue is with Shadow Govt, and every country has one. Single out indeviduals for justice all you want, but it wont kill the snake.
There are Globalists at work here. They hate us, but they are willing to start over by screwing up the planet and then using science to "heal" it. All for them.
Time to take the conspiracies with a grain of salt–because if you want to fight, you better know who the enemy is, or you will just be in the way.
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"…the precarious Unit 4 reactor building,"
(plus ALL of the other 'situations')
"Unit 4 is leaning and could topple if hit with another earthquake or tsunami, resulting in a deadly high-level radioactive waste fire. The ability for the unit to withstand another seismic event is rated at zero." – from article [Kevin Kamps, radioactive waste specialist]
Let's be clear here… it's rated as “ZERO”.
(I don't like those odds!)
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the link… http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2012/05/04-0?print
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Various Nuclear waste (Radwaste) treatment methods, now exceeding a dozen, are proposed for investigation, some of which are already approaching industrial application. The principles employed, include sub-critical fission reactions attended by greatly accelerated decay sequences and low energy induced fusion and cold fission reactions that produce only stable end products.
Photo-Deactivation: Also known as Photoremediation, this process utilizes monochromatic gamma radiation tuned to induce giant dipole nuclear resonance to promote sub-critical fission reactions and greatly accelerated decay sequences through disruptive harmonic vibration of the unstable target nuclei. The process was extensively developed by the late Dr. Paul Brown.
ZIPP Fusion & Fission: Variations and refinements of the Passive Inertial Confinement Fusion process utilizing plasma discharges to produce High Density Electron Clusters or Electron Valudum (EV) in conjunction with cavitation bubble collapse. The resulting coherence of Zero-Point energy via Casimir effects causes a wide variety of nuclear reactions including cold fissions, low energy induced fusions and accelerated decay chains.
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TRANSMUTATION OF RADIOACTIVE WASTES IS "NUCLEAR ALCHEMY GAMBLE"
Hugely Expensive Technology Would Increase Environmental, Health, Safety
And Nuclear Proliferation Risks, New Report Says
“According to The Nuclear Alchemy Gamble, even transmutation proponents agree that many long-lived components of radioactive waste, such as cesium-135 and carbon-14, cannot be transformed into less dangerous forms because of fundamental limitations that cannot be overcome by technology development. Uranium, which makes up 94% of the mass of the spent fuel, cannot be transmuted because it would result in the production of even more plutonium. In some cases, the report notes, transmutation would create new and even more toxic transuranic radioactive materials, making the residual wastes far more dangerous per pound….”
http://www.ieer.org/reports/transm/pressrel.html
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Hydroxy Gas – MMX Process: The implosion of quasi-stable hydrogen oxide (hydroxy) gas produced from an excited state of water is used in conjunction with a proprietary molten metal matrix containing the radwaste. Microscopic implosions within the matrix cause ZPE coherence resulting in cold fission and low energy fusion reactions in a manner similar to that produce by the ZIPP fusion process. Hydroxy gas is produced in a variety of pulsed electrolysis systems including those developed by the late Stanley Meyers and Yull Brown.
Monti Process: Involves a proprietary firing mixture of powdered materials including Carbon, nitrogen and oxygen compounds and various metals capable of facilitating low energy fission and fusion reactions when ignited to produce white-hot radiant energy frequencies. The white hot burn sequence produces prolific bubbling that evidently results in Zero-Point energy coherence through cavitation bubble collapse within the molten metal. The process was developed by Dr. Roberto Monti, apparently based on ancient alchemy or hyperchemistry.
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Keller Catalytic Process:
Similar in many respects to the Monti method, evidently using a Thermite reaction with the addition of a proprietary catalyst for initiating nuclear reactions at relatively low thermal energy inputs in the range of about 1000 to 5,000 °C. Thermal induced atomic and nuclear resonance within the molten metal matrix in conjunction with nuclear scale Casimir effects causes a variety stabilizing nuclear reactions.
RIPPLE Fission:
Utilizes a supersonic ionized gas to vapour heat exchanger to envelope the radwaste aerosol in a vacuum induced plasma vortex, which is capable of harmonic disruption of the matter sustaining Zero-Point field resulting in production of stable light elements from heavy metals such as Lead, Mercury and Americium. Target materials undergo a form of nuclear spalation which quite literally chips away at the nucleus gradually reducing it to lighter elements such as hydrogen and oxygen.
Plasma Arc Implosion:
An electrical plasma arc produced from a conventional arc welder is used to produce implosive ball lightning with prolific EV production. The resulting discharge is used to confine an aerosol of radwaste causing a variety of nuclear stabilizing reactions in a manner similar to both ZIPP and RIPPLE Fission.
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Scalar Interferometry: This process Involves the interference of Scalar/Longitudinal EM waves to modify or disrupt the matter stabilizing frequencies of the Zero-Point field in a defined region of space or by direct excitation of the nucleus at harmonic frequencies resulting in greatly accelerated nuclear decay to stable end products in target materials enveloped by the scalar field.
Bio-Nuclear Remediation:
Utilizes the high voltage gradients, dielectric micro-cavities (ie contractile vacuoles, etc) and scalar wave frequencies believed common to living systems to modify the Zero-Point Field causing cold fission, fusion and accelerated decay reactions. These reactions occur widely in nature, explaining all manner of mass balance anomolies in agronomy, medicine and elsewhere and have been researched extensively by Louis Kervran and others.
LENTEC Processes:
Novel Electrolytic Cells and operating regimes are employed to produce Low Energy Nuclear Transmutations (LENT) using High Density Electron Clusters (HIDEC) or EV’s, which induce nuclear reactions in the electrolyte and electrode materials containing the targeted radwaste. This method is based in part on the foundational work of Pons' and Fleishmann's controversial cold fusion experiments.
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Scalar Interferometry is HAARP
Scalar Interferometry
Scalar Interferometry:
This process Involves the interference of Scalar/Longitudinal EM waves to modify or disrupt the matter stabilizing frequencies of the Zero-Point field in a defined region of space or by direct excitation of the nucleus at harmonic frequencies resulting in greatly accelerated nuclear decay to stable end products in target materials
http://www.lnhatom.com/radwaste.html
Scalar interferometry explained P.2 – important information!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8bAVTsjxsQ
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Scalar interferometry explained P.1 – important information!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB6M96SnOxQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
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This article which includes scalar interferometry as a technology to deal with nuclear waste does give some credence to the argument of Arto Lauri that HAARP was involved in the disaster of Fukushima.
'A THEORY ON FUKUSHIMA' – ARTO LAURI on NUCLEAR CENSORSHIP, HAARP, & TSUNAMI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htL5rPVdoKw
Of course we don't know which facility of ionospheric heater was involved or which country. Russia is taking credit as a threat to other countries.
Also, the lame lampooning of shills against the existence or uses of HAARP actually points to the opposite of their intent.
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anne,
Have you come across any more from Arto Laurie? His analysis is so compelling that I hope he is still alive.
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PIT Processes:
Plasma Injected or Induced Transmutations (PIT) processes utilize various glow discharge and HIDEC or High Density Charge Cluster (HDCC) phenomena within rarified gaseous atmospheres to effect transmutations through the coherence of the local ZPF (Zero Point Field).
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Your synopsis is from:
A Synopsis Of Nuclear Waste Treatment Processes
2006
http://www.lnhatom.com/radwaste.html
All the experimenting in the US, Russia, and Japan atr dismal failures and all the explosions of these failed experiments have poisoned the food supply around the whole world.
The last 6 years since this article was written has destroyed the earth completely.
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Anne, you're one smart lady.
Sure sounded like a bunch of Voodoo Science to me!
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WATKids, it's another scam to make a lot of money. How anyone can rely on "anit-radiation" pills (the elite?) is beyond me. They may have something to help after a nuclear bomb, but day in day out radiation over years isn't going to be helped by a anit-radiation pill. How many fraudulent drugs have been approved by the FDA and then later recalled because they were killing the patients taking those drugs?
Radiation for cancer patients is also a fraud. They never give the 10 year survival rates, because cancer caused by radiation is so virulent and because many people die of heart attacks and strokes caused by the radiation. This scam is promoted by the nuclear industry to make money and to dull the awareness of the public to the virulent, devastating effects of cancer.
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I completely agree, Anne. My father resisted chemo after his surgery for colon cancer. He believed it would kill you faster than the cancer. Once the cancer was found metasticized in his liver, however, he went ahead and agreed to have it, as by that point it had advanced so much it was a last hope ditch effort. He died 4 months later.
A friend's mother had lung cancer and my friend said the radiation therapy burned her lungs so badly, it killed her, not the cancer.
Too many horrible stories like these.
And any fool could see the scam of a Big Pharma's rush to produce the next big thing: "anti-radiation" pills: "Just take one and the 200,000 half life of the hot particle you ingested will magically go against the laws of physics and be reduced to zero!"
Yeah, right.
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And yes, what a perfect self-perpetuating scam:
1. First create cancer by polluting the environment from nuclear power plant regular radioactive releases
2. Then diagnose the cancer using xray equipment you make
3. Then "treat" the cancer your nuclear power plants and xray equipment caused, by using your nuclear "medicine" like radiation treatments.
Lots and lots of money to be made off of the suffering they inflict upon others…Utterly vial and truly EVIL.
And to think, the G.E. shareholders voted against divesting all their nuclear interests and businesses in their annual shareholders' meeting last week. What a surprise. (not!)
Meanwhile their top executives raked in around $14 million or so last year in total compensation…Getting paid the big bucks to nuke our planet. Must be nice… /sarc
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"Dr. Burzynski the Movie" convinced me there's a cure for cancer.
Many grateful testimonials. But it's $24 thousand and you have to go to Houston where his anti-neoplastones lab and clinic are.
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off topic but still nuclear. Is this info true? A comment on youtube.
"The US taxpayers have already paid to construct a storage facility for spent nuclear fuel – Yucca Mountain Nuclear Waster Repository in Nevada. The facility is built. Under the Obama Administration funding for development of Yucca Mountain waste site was terminated effective with the 2011 federal budget passed by Congress on April 14, 2011. The US GAO stated that the closure was for political, not technical or safety reasons."
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Not quite so cut and dried to lay it on just simple political favors. The long travel involved with dangerous toxins must also be mentioned. Reminds me in part of the Japanese trucking radioactive waste to burn in most of the regions. Absolute insanity for implementing the idea, and the money for the graft artists is huge.
Japan has plenty of dead zones now by the nuclear plant to hold the Fukushambles waste. There is no need to truck it and burn it 500 miles away. Stupid idea, but great for the Japanese mafia and regional/city politicians.
Yucca Mountain was a good idea at one time, but it's not so good anymore. The dangers of transportation and the sheer amount of the waste is enormous and the best plan is to long term store the waste fairly close to the hellholes from which they were spawned.
Best idea of all… Shut them all down and encase each plant in metal and concrete. Seal those tombs up before they kill thd human race. The Japanese are a poster child for what goes wrong when plants continue to operate with waste stored (double racked) over the past 30-40 years and nobody has any suggestions on controlling the million-year deadly toxins.
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@ Tumrgrwr Here is the source for that quote I think.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf41_US_nuclear_power_policy.html
Scroll down to Nuclear Wastes subtitle. I was doing a bit of research today prior to batting some pronukes' arguments on a MSNBC news thread article.
I chose just to study .. and stay out of the fray tho .. but hope you find it useful.
Regards.
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Thank you for the link. I was just curious and confused.
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@ TmrGrower: You are welcome .. and we are all confused and curious. Becoming nuclear specialists in just a few months time is a damn steep learning curve. But for that reason we are called here.
If anyone cares to read the news thread I refer to is here:
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/04/11532584-can-it-be-the-end-of-nuclear-power-japan-to-shut-down-last-reactor?lite
I chose to study pronuke claims spec related to costs, liabilty and feasibilty re Gen 4 reactors not to mention hidden costs of NPP, greenhouse consids not entered in $ equation, is nuke really that green and cheap? .. not to mention disaster of accident Fuku.
Gen 4 reactors still so far off actuality that rite now they are just excuse to renew contracts for aging NPPs to stay in biz. And Fuku has changed liability costs. Costs wo enormous gov subsidies to retrofit post Fuku new safety standards are incentive for cheaper alternatives. It's the Economics .. stupid!
Pooped my lil brain out today .. but any of you EneBrains feel like swatting some flies??
Peace .. hope .. my best.
Bako
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