Nuclear Expert: Fukushima melted fuel is drifting in ocean and onto land, lacking any containment — It ends up on coastline and blows into communities — People get an exceptional dose — Health harm will go on for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years (AUDIO)

Published: August 23rd, 2013 at 7:30 pm ET
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Title: Fukushima leak: “It’s pretty active, pretty intense and it’s out of control”
Source: Voice of Russia – UK Edition
Host: Brendan Cole
Date: Aug 20, 2013

John Large, Nuclear consultant: [...] What happened is the intensely radioactive fuel is beginning to migrate into the water. And the water is seeping and migrating out of the containment.

[…] In the immediate ecosystem, of course it moves beyond that. Once it comes out of the groundwater into the marine environment, then tides and currents will take it along — and the whole scenario’s rather like this: You get these very fine oxide particles of fuel, each intensely radioactive, being carried along the coastline. The tide taking it in, […] it dries out. The onshore breeze that comes everyday blows the radioactive dust — these very fine particles — onto local communities, and those communities receive an exceptional dose.

[…] It’s pretty active, pretty intense, and out of control. […]

[Tepco] didn’t think ahead, and of course they’re left with an in-addressable situation. There’s not much you can do when it gets out to the marine environment. […]

It looks like we’re in for a long term here. Remember 3 reactors went down, each reactor had about 120-130 tons of fuel. That’s lacking any containment. It’s beginning to drift into the marine and terrestrial environment. The situation is the radiation and the radiological effect in terms of health harm for that fuel will go on for hundreds, thousands, if not tens of thousands of years.

See also: Local L.A.-area Paper: "Radioactive sea spray has been shown to blow hundreds of kilometers inland" -Study

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Published: August 23rd, 2013 at 7:30 pm ET
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29 comments to Nuclear Expert: Fukushima melted fuel is drifting in ocean and onto land, lacking any containment — It ends up on coastline and blows into communities — People get an exceptional dose — Health harm will go on for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years (AUDIO)

  • We Not They Finally

    They have to "address rapidly" the "un-addressable situation"? How will that work, exactly?

    Oh, the "if" part. You mean IF there had not been a 50-fold spike in ocean radiation weeks back?

    Where are those nifty sci-fi time travel machines when we actually need them?


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  • MichaelV MichaelV

    Stop the oligarchical and bloated cabal of energy moguls.

    Demand a free press.

    Demand justice for the planet.

    Hold these thugs accountable.


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  • nuknomore nuknomore

    So do we die or do we adapt?
    Thats the question. And if we adapt , what does that mean. Its the greatest and most frightening of unknown's.?
    It is sick, and scary for the life of the future.. If there is a future..
    Nuclear has always been Pandora's box.. And because of human arrogance. Some decided to take the risk.
    And decided for all of mankind, every living creature on the earth.. And the earth its self. To take that risk..
    Just beyond mind boggling.


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    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Many are already dead, dying, and will be dead in about 5-20 years. There are a bunch of arrogant scientists/politicians/money hungry jackasses with God complexes who don't give a crap for anything except for furthering their studies, getting more power, or more wealth. The last thing on their mind is making sure the everyday man/woman/child is safe and has clean water and healthy food to eat. We all need to grow up and realize this will not end. God forbid, if Japan is evacuated and they have to abandon their 40+ reactors.


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    • We Not They Finally

      "Die or adapt?" That's one of the more outlandishly scary things about massive radiation. In most calamities, people either die or they live. Then life goes on. But with radiation, the population is weakened, sickened, kids get born deformed, and each generation ongoing suffers even worse. This will break down whole CULTURES. And ECONOMIES. And FOOD SUPPLIES.

      It is indeed "mind boggling," as you say. This is about life itself as we know it.


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    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      We must adapt. If I had young children I would have them take apple pectin, for heart, magnesium and calcium supplements for bone. There are clays and a plethora of supplements easy to Google or check right here on Enenews and form your own opinion. My kids are now young adults and even though I ask them to take these supplements they think I'm insane but I'm hoping current issues will convince them otherwise.


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      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

        This Dr. gave a great interview that we can protect ourselves if we know what is coming
        http://www.drapsley.com/Pages/default.aspx


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          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Have been interested in Weston A. Price, and much in developments in German medicine for some time. Also biodynamic farming.

            Here's a resource for you:

            Greenstring Institute

            http://greenstringinstitute.org/

            I'm hoping they publish their findings and can duplicate their efforts. Important work being done there. They also have an internship program for those interested in farming. Similar to biodynamic farming and Dr. Albright's work, but with a few brilliant twists and many innovations such as water composting with aeration. Makes "super compost." For example.


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      • Okay okay. When will the mass deaths start? What will the scenario look like. Will the US have a labor problem?
        If 50 to 200 million people die in the next 5 to 8 years from now what will that do to the nations of US, Canada, Europe??? Zombie Nations?
        I MOVED SOUTH!
        I figure that going as far away as you can go is best. Some people, even here say going south is not gonna save you…BUT I go to the beach every morning and at sundown and I see many star fish, trout, wild salmon and thousands of creatures here in Valdivia Chile!!!!! Go look on Google Earth. Houses and land for $10,000 and up.
        I live next to the Pacific ocean and several rivers!
        IF YOU WANT TO COME DOWN HERE I CAN HELP!
        http://www.restartchile.com


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    • weeman

      For a species to adapt you have to put the organism under stress, in our case radiation, but you fail to recognize that this takes time and with radiation you will not have enough time to adapt.
      Time is not on our side
      No it's not.


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  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    JohnLarge seems to have missed the part when the reactors exploded and ejected many tons of nukerods into the air skyhigh, and a large part of that landed in the shallow offshore seabottom.. beyond the surfline there the water is fairly shallow for several kilometers until 100km out where it starts a steeper slope into the bottom of the Japan Trench at 200km.
    –yes, there's already many tons of nukefuel sitting on the bottom for over the past two years.

    The best way to pin this mess down is to nail zinc-sulfide tarps to the bottom. This will temporarily isolate the mess in place keeping it from mixing as fast with the ocean, and it will glow in the dark wherever it's covering a hot chunk of radfuel. This makes it EZ for divers to spot, then cut it out and use tongs to put the hot-chunks into a leadlined box. Divers can approach hot-rad-bits much more closely underwater than workers in open air.


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  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    JohnLarge seems to have missed the part when the reactors exploded and ejected many tons of nukerods into the air skyhigh, and a large part of that landed in the shallow offshore seabottom.. beyond the surfline there the water is fairly shallow for several kilometers until 100km out where it starts a steeper slope into the bottom of the Japan Trench at 200km.
    –yes, there's already many tons of nukefuel sitting on the bottom for over the past two years.

    The best way to pin this mess down is to nail zinc-sulfide tarps to the bottom. This will temporarily isolate the mess in place keeping it from mixing as fast with the ocean, and it will glow in the dark wherever it's covering a hot chunk of radfuel. This makes it EZ for divers to spot, then cut it out and use tongs to put the hot-chunks into a leadlined box. Divers can approach hot-rad-bits much more closely underwater than workers in open air.

    Environmental Nuclear Eradication Network Enterprises Worldwide Systems Inc.


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  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    ..or, if you don't wanna use divers use robots.
    Japan loves to build robots, and it's easy to build a robot that sees the glowing spot under the ZincSulfide tarp, then it can stab the spot with a suction dredge and the hot-turd gets sucked up into a dredge barge.


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  • Gasser Gasser

    Song say
    Rain Drops keep fallen' on My Head

    Cesium 134 raindrops keep fallin' on my head

    And just like the guy whose feet are too deformed for his bed

    Nothin' seems to fit

    Those Cesium raindrops are fallin' on my head, they keep fallin'

    So I just did me some talkin' to the Land of the Rising Sun
    
And I said I didn't like the way they got things done
    
Liein' on the job
    
Those Cesium raindrops are fallin' on my head, they keep fallin'

    But there's one thing I know

    The Cobalt 60 blues they send, have defeated me
    
It won't be long
‘
    Til sadness steps up to greet me

    Cesium raindrops keep fallin' on my head

    But that does mean my eyes will soon be turnin’ white
    
Cryin's is for me
‘
    Cause I'm never gonna stop the rain by complainin'

    Because I'm no longer free, ….everythin's worryin' me
    It won't be long
‘
    Til sadness steps up to greet the world
    Cesium raindrops keep fallin' on our heads

    
And that does mean our eyes will soon be turnin' white

    Diein's all for us
    
‘Cause were never gonna stop the reactors by protestin'
    Because were all screwed, ….everythin's worryin' the world

    But there's one thing I know
    Plutonium particles keep enterin' our lungs
    And it won't be long
    Til' deep breaths escape us all

    Actinides keep pollutin'….they just keep pollutin'
    And that worries the liven' shit out of………..me


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  • Ron

    "will go on for hundreds, thousands, if not tens of thousands of years"

    Keep in mind that this is for just ONE plant. Now consider that there are something like 500 "official" NPs in the world and you get a feel for the potential crisis. It's like, what were they smoking when they proposed to harness the sun and bring to earth.

    No matter what the apologists for Nukes say, any form of energy with as much potential for destruction as nukes and which cannot be turned off in case of accident is something we never should have messed with.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, let others know what is in store for all their futures and no aspirin is going to take this truth or this coming future pain away.


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    Radioactive dust hmmm like Buckyballs. So much for the relaxing walks along the shoreline.


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  • MichaelV MichaelV

    They imply that water is being pumped into the reactor cores, but the high rad levels indicate that the coriums have entered the aquifer.

    This is bad…


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  • MichaelV MichaelV

    We're in the time of explosive radioactive geysers…

    … it's the Terminator and Mad Max combined.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Sad for people on the coast and inland where wind blows radioactive dust onto local communities.


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  • UncleCrusty

    I need some help ( See Mr. Abe – it's not that hard). If any of you fine folk have a link, or an idea where I can find some decent post detonation pics / video of unit #3. Really would like to see the reactor cover – if it's there. Thank you.


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  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Don't forget the fuel pellet particles that are floating on the tsunami debris that stretches for miles and miles adrift in the twilight zone of the vast once beautiful Pacific. She was a grand ole gal! Thanks GE. You brought death and eternal destruction to the most beautiful ocean in the world! We are next… Buy that yacht you always wanted while you still can. May want to try the Atlantic though. Between BP and Tepco, we have been reduced to only one fairly safe ocean. For the moment that is. Lots of fuku GE style reactors on the East Coast just waiting for their day in the red sun to drop its black rain. Peace to all…………


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