Nuclear Expert: Fukushima “very critical for entire humankind”; “Japan won’t let any foreign experts visit… they are behaving rather strangely” — Nuclear Scientist: Radioactive emissions still taking place all the time; Pouring contamination in ocean may cause “elimination of fish resources”

Published: January 22nd, 2014 at 6:48 pm ET


Oleg Dvoynikov, the editor-in-chief of Pro atom magazine, Jan. 22, 2014: “As far as the cooling of earth is concerned, surely, it’s possible to do it from a technical point of view. But they will need a nitrogen unit, practically, a plant working non-stop. It’s bad the Japanese won’t let any foreign experts visit the station. And there were offers of help, not only from Russia but from many other countries too […] Even if the soil around the nuclear power plant is totally frozen, this won’t fully eliminate the danger […] I believe that the liquidation of the Fukushima accident’s consequences might have been much better organized if the works were managed not by the company that operates the Fukushima plant but by the Japanese government. This would have made the works much more effective – and much cheaper. […] The Japanese are behaving rather strangely […] First, for some reason, they do not hurry to clean up the consequences of the catastrophe until the situation becomes very critical for the entire humankind. Then, they start to do something, but, again for some unknown reason, they invent very complicated decisions, although they might have invented foreign specialists who would have helped them to build waste treatment facilities a long time ago. This would have been much cheaper and much more effective.”

Igor Ostretsov, nuclear scientist and manager during 1986 Chernobyl disaster, Jan. 22, 2014: “It shouldn’t be forgotten that radioactive emissions at the Fukushima power plant are still taking place all the time since the beginning of the catastrophe. The reactors are cooling, the plant’s workers don’t know what they should do with the water that cools the reactors, and simply pour it into the sea. This may lead to nothing than elimination of fish resources, however toughly controlled the process may be.”

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Published: January 22nd, 2014 at 6:48 pm ET


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130 comments to Nuclear Expert: Fukushima “very critical for entire humankind”; “Japan won’t let any foreign experts visit… they are behaving rather strangely” — Nuclear Scientist: Radioactive emissions still taking place all the time; Pouring contamination in ocean may cause “elimination of fish resources”

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    It would make sense the Japanese aren't allowing anyone on site, if there actually were a secret advanced weapons program there. It's hard to explain the complete lack of cooperation w/o considering such a program. But then again, there are signs the NRC, GE, the DOE and others are quietly working behind the scenes, beyond the public eye.

    • guevara3712

      yes. i believe you are right, plenty of involvement just nothing they will allow the public to be privy to.

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Nothing new

      • atomicistheword

        My friend you have such faith in these devil corporations that feed off the suffering and poverty of mankind. They threaten governments and hold them under a spell of destroying civilisation. Yet they do so in ways of genetic warfare, for example aids and atomic radiation. There is great profit to be made out of the misery and suffering of mankind. These evil corporations couldn't care less if you lived or died, what pervert foods they create for profit or the consequences of their meddling in nature. They certainly trust in God.

        Now let's get the record straight TEPCO do not own the atomic radiation pollution machines, they lease them from corporations that hide their criminal shame. That threaten indemnity from prosecution for their criminal actions. We will help you as long as we're not revealed for our shame. I'm surprise they didn't build their atomic titanic power machines on top of volcanoes, although that would be too obvious, better fault Lines, force governments to run them till they fail and then sell off radiography technology for their invented disasters.

        Now let's see which of these corporations are heavily involved in radiography technology; oh silly goose me, THE ALL ARE! General Electric/ Hitachi, Toshiba….

        No one seems to be saying anything about the rocketdyne disaster in California that was 100s of times worse than 3 mile Island. Not even a protective concrete dome. Fancy building a sodium reactor, it was written on the wall to…

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          atomicistheword, to whom is your comment addressed?

          • atomicistheword

            Our comments were not aimed at you personally my friend, but those whom hide in the shadows protecting their already ruined credibility in their pursuit of greed above humanity.

            These companies have much to gain by allowing the general electric consuming public that, THEY WERE NOT RESPONSIBE AND HAD NO KNOWLEDGE THAT SUCH EVENTS WERE INEVITABLE.

            Building atomic radiation power polluting stations on fault lines sounds criminal, knowing the risks, don't you think? Who gave the technical knowledge for the building of these atomic power polluters in Fukushima?

        • name999 name999

          Price Anderson.

        • We Not They Finally

          Yes, atomic, the Rocketdyne disaster was in 1959[!!] and never publicized. Michael Collins on did a lot on that before he was apparently "disappeared." No one has the definitive on that. The website is still up, but with NO recent commentaries and his radio appearances stopped cold.

          • name999 name999

            I read this account on CNN probably in 2011. A couple, they were well know activists, were
            walking on the beach together on an isolated strip of land in Chile. Some guy came up to them and shot them both in the head.

            It is terrible, but that is what dissappeared means. No one ever found the guy who shot them . And no one but that guys own conscience will ever find him.

          • atomicistheword

            We Not They Finally, you might like this 8min doco from the History Channel on YouTube….

            "History Channel – ROCKETDYNE" if this 7 year old clip has been taken down there are others to choose from.

            Another good one is the SL1 disaster, a declassified military doco, also on YouTube. I think the people at wiki put that up.

            It's good that these things are being revealed publicly in the last days of the old empire of materialism, so that the rainbow children can emerge in the 5th world, with isn't a new world order.

          • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

            … the Santa Susana Field Lab in California is in 3rd place of the top releasers of radioactive iodine in nuclear power history.

            And THAT is why the rad levels are so high in LA…or is it?

    • zogerke zogerke

      yah. like i said that was the one thing dropsilla posted i believed. it was a powerpoint about the sacrifices of the fuku 50, and the last 2 or 4 slides was a montage of logos- the logos of all the US govt (and IAEA) agencies, universities and corporations involved in working with the japanese on this issue. everyone from MIT to Stanford to lockheed martin if i am remembering corretly. Do I have a reference to the post or date? no, nor did i save the .pdf. and my post in diret response was one word: <wow>. Because it was socccccccc reeeeeef admitting the <military indust complex> was alreadyworking with Fuku and Tepco.

    • utahruss utahruss

      I think this might be as good an explanation as any. Sorry there is a SWEAR WORD (not a real bad one) at 1:01 or so. Sorry don't want to offend anyone

      What does 100 TONS of Uranium look like?

    • name999 name999

      you are talking about viruses, advanced billogical and "non lethal" weapons. All kinds of abusive research practices…torture. The secrets embedded with the waste are equally devastating.

    • We Not They Finally

      HoTaters, what you say morally is totally true. No one from the outside would be let onto a secret site very likely illegal under international law. But in a practical sense, they CAN'T let anyone in, because it's roasty-toasty.

      At some point (though it's all the wake of damage SO horrendous, that just posing the query may not matter to the fate of the world) it might be questioned how such unimaginably huge stockpiles of dangerous radiation was ever put in one place.

      Though I'd like us to have the answer to that nevertheless.

      • name999 name999

        there is no logic to it. One can't believe a scientific community would allow such crazy endless practices of saving poison forever in big metal leaking, aging, unreliable containers. No sense.

    • Gasser Gasser

      Simon & Garfunkel: The sound of silence

      Go here before you read down there>


      Hello TEPCO, your not my friend,

      I've come to kick you're ass again,

      Because your Isotopes are softly creeping,
Left its Actinides while I was sleeping,

      And the Nuclides that was planted in my brain

      Still remains

      Within your sound of radiation's silence.

      In restless dreams I walked alone

      Narrow streets of cobblestone,

      'Neath the halo of a BWR lit street lamp,

      I turned my collar to the contaminated cold and damp,

      When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of,

      Gamma ray light

      That split the night

      And created the sound of Atomic death silence.

      And in the Nuclear flash of light I saw

      Ten thousand people dying, maybe more.

People talking without the NRC hearing,

      NRC hearing without listening,

      People writing sing say's and poems that voices will share,
And only dared,

      Disturb the sound of TEPCO's silence.


      • Gasser Gasser

        "Fools" said we,"You do not know

        Silence like a cancer grows.

        Hear our words that we might teach you,
Take our facts and logic that might reach you.

But our words like silent Cesium raindrops fell,
As Corium's re-criticality echoed

In the Aquifer's wells of silence

        And the people bowed and prayed
To the Nuclear Devil they made.

And enenews'ers flashed out its warning,
In the words that bad shit was forming.

And the signs said,

        The words of the prophet s
are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls.

        And screamed beyond the sounds of silence.

        ~Gasser Classic~

      • name999 name999

        I just sang that and I have a very good voice. New favorite.

    • AlexfromNB

      This whole thing is a virtual crime against humanity. To allow the Japanese government and TEPCO to perpetuate this mess constitutes the worst offense ever perpetuated against the planet Earth. I used to think the Japanese people embraced honor and truth. Apparently and without doubt I was sadly mistaken. Clearly we cannot allow this to continue. From published reports the Pacific Ocean is dying. I certainly hope this isn't true for if it is can we be far behind?

  • MoonlightEmpire MoonlightEmpire

    Don't cry for me, Fukushima

  • Stupidbutnotbumb

    They're acting like nothing is wrong.. Nothing to see there..It's fine.. If it was that bad you would read about it in the paper or it would all over the TV… No ones going to die or have died or will ever die from fukushima, just small pockets of fish.. Now go back to work and stop thinking or talking about. (That's what they're saying).. Anyone with have a brain knows that's not the case.. How much can our environment take? We're going to find out because it's not going to stop.

    • Gasser Gasser

      Jimi Hendrix; All along the Watchtower

      Got'a go here to get the rhythm gist down there


      "There must be some way out of here" …said the enenews in grief

      "There's too much lying confusion", …we can't get no Becquerel relief

Businessmen make Nuclear reactors, …Plutonium pollutes our earth

      All of them along the line, …greedily know what its all not worth.

      "There's reason to get excited", …the concerned posters spoke
"There are many here among us. …who see reactors are broke

But you and I, were going through that, …and this may be our fate

      So let us not talk falsely now, …the ELE hour is getting late".

      All along the watchtower, …enenews keeping the view

      While all the women were there also, …posting facts too.

      Outside in the distance …reactors did blow

      Two clouds were approaching …turned into radioactive snow.


      • Gasser Gasser


        "There must be some way out of here" …said the World to the thief
        There's too much suffering", …we can't get no relief

        Doctors, they sell my blood, …machines dig my grave

        None of them along the line, …know how many they can't save.

        "No reason to get excited", …TepCo blindly spoke
        There are many among them. …who treat life like a joke

But you and I, we've been through that, …and this is not our F'ing fate
So let us not talk falsely now, …the 11th hour, it's getting late".

        All along the watchtower,…enenews kept the view

        While all the women came solution cognizance, …some barefoot, too.

        Outside in the distance …wild Bucky ball's went into no logic foul 

        Two electric charges were approaching, …the atomic wind began to howl.

        "There must be some way out of here"

        ~Gasser Classic~

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      "We're going to find out because it's not going to stop."

      Yahtah, SBNB?

      Yes, people will know more and more eventually.

      It is in the planning to create more and more fear.

      Question: is it better to watch it growing worse every day, and be as fully conscious about this issue as possible, or to be totally ignorant and uncaring about any of it at all?

      Only each soul can answer that. Were it not such an unpredictable situation, and there seems to be no real good news coming, one can only surmise from all that we see in front of our own faces, sumting wong in hong kong.

      Got Geiger?

      If the babylonians that are responsible for this did NOT want the people to panic, they would tell them the truth. If it becomes more apparent they are allowing the truth to be enshrouded, then there be skullduggery at work in the darkness of the unknown. There breeds fear to be used in what way?

      To control.


      • name999 name999

        I went to an exhibit of Mesopotamian, and Babylonian art at the Royal Ontario Museum (ROM) in
        Toronto Canada in 2013. It was exquisite, but we were not allowed to take photos.

        What is your problem with the Babylonians? Trying to understand.

  • w

    I don't believe the Japanese government and for sure not TEPCO r making a sincere effort to clean up this mess in Fukushima. First of all TEPCO don't have to expertise on decontamination. And secondly the administrative team of TEPCO don't understand the dangers of radiation, or refused to believe it.
    And the Japanese government are mostly comprised to the nuclear industry, and also submissive to Obama administration's pro nuclear policy. And for the Japanese pride, the government could never remove TEPCO from being in charge of the decontamination, regardless of how ignorance and inexperience of those people are when it comes to decontamination.

    • w

      I think they are afraid to let outsider and the rest of the world know just how out of control and lethally contaminated the entire Fukushima Daiichi site is. If that ever happens, the world the UN will insisted going into the Japan and take over the decontamination project. The Japanese government will have none of that.

      • We Not They Finally

        Oh, you mean the IAEA's U.N.? WHO's U.N? UNSCEAR's U.N.? That's part of the problem. That international bodies are so corrupted, that they would NOT insist on going in there, much less censoring Japanese leadership for bringing death and destruction to the whole world.

        Who ever pushed globalism as a GOOD thing?

        • name999 name999

          I agree with everything you say except the one about Obama creating this problem.

          This problem was created far before Barack Obama was a twinkle. The fact that you can keep this news site going is a testament that there are people looking out for it.

          Your name is W?

          • Dee Dee

            Why not Obama? What has he done? Haven't heard a word out of his mouth about Fukushima. He says he cares about the environment, so where is he? He should be leading the way to clean up this mess, he has the power to do so. At a minimum, he should be shutting down all the NPP's in the US. Yet, nothing for almost 3 years. It may have started before he was born, but that does not absolve him from his responsibility to the American people, which from where I sit, he is failing.

            As far as "w"'s name goes, what is name999? I am using my real name.

            • name999 name999

              The "W" comment was meant to be a joke. So my mother called me name999, what can I do?

              Seriously though, I would highly doubt that Barack Obama has the power to speak openly regarding issues that are considered National Security. It doesn't matter who you are, classified information can't be shared. The nuclear energy industry has plenty of cover. It is wrong but it is legal.

        • Angela_R

          In the aftermath of the earthquake and tsunami, Tepco were in constant contact with the IAEA. The following link I have posted before. Read the notification on the 15 March 2011 wherein they tell of the explosions in Units 1, 2 and 3.

          The media at that time were focused on the very graphic details in the unfolding tragedy of the devastation and death from the earthquake and tsunami. It is difficult to say whether they were constrained in their reporting on the reactors. There was a lot of information out there, not relayed by the mainstream media.

          However ridiculous platitudes have been used at times to stem panic. But how much information can you lump on a reeling population, when relocation of a huge number of people is contemplated. Surely the blame rests with the allowance of nuclear plants, not just in Japan, but everywhere, and in the coverups and lies told by the industry about their safety.

          And I wonder – Would earthquake prone Iran really be looking for nuclear energy if the truth were out there?

    • Angela_R

      w – The following link shows what has been done and what is being contemplated

  • soern

    forget Japan, it is done.
    Forget pacific ocean, it is done.
    Forget food chain, we helped to manage, it is done also.
    We did not end or stop nuclear industry.
    We did not manage nuclear industries full stop ending.
    So We and all mankind will earn extinction.
    So what?
    Mankind isn't that great at all.
    Just consuming and looking for an easy life.
    Mankind – No Thanks!
    I am deeply dissapointed from mankind and it would be easier
    just to be a tree to bear mankinds monstrosities.
    A shame to be a member of that species!

    • We Not They Finally

      I understand your cynicism totally. Just try to also focus on compassion — think of the innocents of the world, people who are just trying to do the best they can for themselves, their families, their communities, only to be visited by this kind of horror.

      I'm fine, too, saying that I'm not part of THAT species. I don't have the answer or even an explanation, but it's almost like we've grown into two species. And no, I don't want to be part of the species that spawned Fukushima either. It's just not everyone.

    • name999 name999

      I feel that way sometimes too.


    glad they're referring to Fukushima as a "catastrophe". Others, within the scientific/engineering community, were referring it as an "incident". An incident's more-like when my cat forgets there's a box by the door…

  • Ontological Ontological

    Now fish are being eliminated, exterminated may be a better word. Deep into my spectral research, which is fascinating, I recommend if your anxious find a distraction, hobby, something to remind you of a better time perhaps. Check ENENEWS often for new info.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture


    Otherwise they'd swoop in and do something.

    • Daisy207

      Super powers can't do anything and they know it. That's why they are dressing up homeless people in white tyvek, with hard hats and masks – it's all theater. They are abandoning the site without saying so. There are no solutions. Most of the site cannot even be approached by humans. It is and will remain for the rest of time that humanity exists and beyond- a glowing dot on the planet forever excreting deadly radiation on the rest of the world.

    • GOM GOM

      The GOM incident raged on..With all 'help' denied, remember? Well, I have only begun now to understand why they let it rage. Because of what was NOT being told. Can you imagine what would of happened if the public knew that it was not one well, but three? Matt Simmons said "more than one well". And where they had drilled was in an area where the earths crust/seabed was the thinnest? And only one mile from magma? These stats are from recent court documents. The Louisiana Sinkhole Bugel is one place to look for this info. I am sure it is easy to find. But now the public has forgotten what BP had done. Fast forward to Fukushima. We will never know what they are hiding. By the time we find out, [doubtful], it won't matter.

      • We Not They Finally

        Matt Simmons' "more than one well" YOU CAN CHECK ON. They switched out the webcams during Hurricane Bonnie in the summer of 2010. If you check the Department of Energy's records, there were TWO wells leased, not just one: Macondo Well 252-A and Well 252-B.

        Well A had been capped months earlier. It's Well B that is still gushing. But they switched out the webcams. You can confirm that by DIFFERENT LONGTITUDE AND LATITUDE MARKINGS on the webcams before and after Hurricane Bonnie.

        I was surprised that didn't get publicized, and of course horrified by Matt Simmons' death which, due to the timing, was likely a murder.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Fukushima Endgame -BeautifulGirlbyDana
    Jan 16 2014

    PS.. A song.(they were having a little trouble with the sound)

    Willie Watson – "The Ways of Man" – Blackwing Sessions

    • name999 name999

      both excellent links. This is my favorite part of Enenews…links like this.

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Heart I love this guy …beautifulgirlbydana. He speaks my language and he has quote a large following in the anti nuke world , I learn a lot from his nite show , do you watch him ?
      He's putting a program together about Arnie G .
      I would like your take I see some folks from here there .
      Thank you for sharing this it's very good "…..

      • artika rama

        clamshellmh I have been , better said HAD been following him for a while and he has interesting SHOWS but one has to take his info with lost of salt .
        He is antinuke and he he means well ,, trying to inform people about fukushima about radiation all fine and good , but he also makes up a lot of STUFF ,, I am not into that kind of fantasy .
        He has a lot of followers , and he thinks he is doing a good job defending the antinuke movement whhile infact his theories like "elite are killing people because they are planning to leave the planet ,," are totally rubbish and are very damaging to the whole antinuke movement .
        Its a pity cause in the end we are all associated with these kinds of nonsense and the whole antinuke movement is being ridiculed and we are loosing our credibility . One idiot ruining it for all of us .
        He and people like him has done much more damage to the anitnuke movement than any pronuke shill could ever imagine .
        We cant even mention the word "fukushima"anymore and we are automatically associated with illumintai , depopulation agenda , and so on because of these kinds of misinforming ignorant people .
        I would rather keep informed by a site like enenews with REAL Information rather than fantasy fairy tales by some self claimed expert.
        He gets most of his info from enenews and he comes around here often under different names to pull people to his site and its all fun to watch his sow if you have free time but i wouldnt take him too seroiously .

        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          Hmm I haven't heard anything like what you are saying and I surly did not find him thru here …

          • artika rama

            lamsellemh He starts the video (link above) with "they will sacrifice the planet to go to another planet ,, the first sentence . "
            but if you would watch his videos ( which he has many ) you can find the nost extreme fantasies from fukushima being equal to 18 million chernobyls to , Tepco causing the storms ,, warning people about hurricanes with wind speeds up to 400 / 500 miles wind speeds etc etc .
            It is wrong ,, misinformation .
            I am against ANY misinformation . not just by msm trying to play down this disaster but also in the other extreme as well .

            • clamshellernh clamshellernh

              I have , I can think of crazier folk that are out there than him , who in gods name takes everything verbatim .
              I like they way he talks , I like what he has to sell .
              The past few weeks here have been a bit nutty don't ya think ….
              I really am not going there
              I am here to learn mostly .
              Got caught up …not getting caught up again .
              Job well done I will no longer feel comfortable posting here without thinking long and hard …gotta go I have life to do ..night

              • artika rama

                clamshellemh Thats true there are crazier people out there than him , but if thats your criteria to follow anyone , than you are definitely on the wrong track .
                Instead of trying to follow the one who is less crazy than the next guy better try to follow real experts and get real info .
                I have nothing againts anyone , i just see a deliberate attempt to get the antinuke movement off track , to turn it into another one of those conspiracy theories etc etc
                Very dmagaing to the whole, antinuke movement IMO .
                Anyway if you want to believe elite has caused fukushima and they are planning to go to another planet 🙂 lol OKE ,,maybe you should foloow dana 🙂 good luck with that 🙂

    • artika rama

      HOTR I am a bit allergic to people like beautifulgbdana who are trying to kidnap the fukushima disaster and turn it into a conspiracy theory with elite planning to leave the planet etc .

      Fukushima is a REAL disaster , HERE on THIS planet NOW.
      Instead of dealing with all kinds of conspiracies and out of this world claims , we need SANE people dealing with this VERY EARTHLY problem ASAP.
      This is a disaster of unseen proportions , many people will die becouse of it and we need people with their both feet on the ground , sane , logical educated people to deal with it . Not conspiracy theories .
      The more fukushima gets associated with these kinds of nonsense conspiracies the weaker the antinuke movement will get . I prefer to keep it sane , scientific and REAL .
      I prefer to spend my energy trying to find solutions trying to help .

      • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

        One of the few real conspiracies is all the conspiracy theories.

        • Exactly, the bogus conspiracy theories, discredit the real ones, which are now numerous.

          • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

            No, there exists a conspiracy to plant conspiracy theories, you know.

            Seeing themselves as wolves, they masquerade among those they see as sheeple, planting sleight deceptions and outright bogus theories, to distract, mislead, and discredit, you know.

            Lots times they use "sevens" and other indicators to identify themselves to others in the know. You might be the first to use an actual picture of a wolf, however.

            • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

              You use sevens on I think.

              • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

                Or maybe I've got it wrong and you are just a sheep playing in wolf's clothing, just trying to pimp your website.

                • Ye be the "atomsforpeace" you cannot deny the language. Oh what a laugh, God will find a special place for you in hell, so be it for you. My soul is prepared.

            • Oh that is funny.

              My "wolves" are German Shepherds, to protect the flock. eff you

            • clamshellernh clamshellernh

              I'm really sorry everyone , my intent was not to create another day of diversion here . It was a feeing of comradery with the post from heart .
              I feel like I'm being sucked into an alternate universe at times
              I've been attacked here and so on
              There will be those that come here just to tag the comments in the day creating a mess , I do not want to be part of it .

              • artika rama

                clamshellemh No problem clamshellmh , no harm done 🙂 ,, this is a discussion forum ,, everyones opinion counts ,, i just told you , i USED to follow dana daily too 🙂 so says enough :),, these are very confusing times,, on one hand we are dealing with a disaster of unimaginable proportions and on the other a lot of misinfo ,, pronuke are continuously trying to derail the antinuke (which i dont mean dana is one of them ,, absolutely not ,, he means well , i am convicned that he is trying to help in his own way ) but words are very powerfull , internet is the only media left where one can find some truth .But manipulation can work both ways . Difficult to see the trees through the forest (or am i saying it wrong again 🙂
                There is no damage done .
                Peace 🙂

          • artika rama

            alaskan ice / stock absolutely . I am here to find the truth and there are enough conspiracy theories just making it difficult to see the forest through the trees.
            Why do we even need conspiracies anyway 🙂 isnt the truth not BAD ENOUGH ??
            Pacific is dying ,, children in japan getting cancer ,, fallout everywhere and do we STILL need any conspiracies ?
            Shall we start discussing how the elite will build their space ships and go to other planets ?
            Is THAT what we should be discussing now ?
            Its unbelievable how people can get lost in all the misinfo .
            ANd i am fine even with that ,, but what i dont like is ,,all these conspiracy theories etc are turning the antinuke movement into another fantasy conspiracy thing .
            ANtinuke movement is NOT a conspiracy ,,it is VERY real ,, this disaster is happening right now ,,
            SO ;""elite caused the disaster and are planning to leave the planet"" IS NOT WHAT ANTINUKE IS ABOUT ,, these kinds of lunatics DOES NOT REPRESENT ANTINUKE MOVEMENT .
            These kinds of misinfo is not helping at all and are very damaging to all of us ,, all our efforts are discredited because of it .
            PS I keep saying this but just because i use caps lock doesnt mean i am ranting 🙂 I use caps lock to emphasize what i am trying to say thats all . I dont rant 🙂

            • clamshellernh clamshellernh

              Hate to say it a Rama , but had you kept your mouth shut this would not be going on , you my dear have opened the can , you my dear have diverted
              The very things you do not approve of for discussion here you have made one , or did you know that already ?

              • artika rama

                clamshellemh I just give my opinion on the subject , thats all .
                I believe we should be able to discuss anything , any subject ,,NEVER SAID I DO NOT APPROVE OF DISCUSSING ANYTHING ,,Besides Who am i to decide what is to be discussed and what is not , here on enenews .
                1 discussing about conspiracies = YES sure
                2 believing in conspiracy = nope i dont .

                I dont beleive in censoring any subject .
                Stating that conspiracies are nonsense and doing it on enenews doesnt make enenews a conspiracy site IMO .
                on the contrary i am just trying to defend enenews of turning into one of them .Thats why i react to threads involving conspiracy theories .

                You may or may not approve it, thats your opinion , but i have the right like anyone else here to state my opinion as well right?
                ANyway , I dont beleive in those kinds of conspiracies ,, the only conspiracy i see is the MONEY conspiracy ,, some people somewhere are making profits while lots of others are getting cancer environment being poisoned etc .
                except from that i dont believe anyone is going to leave this planet soon or any other conspiracies .
                And i dont think just by talking about it makes enenews a conspiracy site.:)

                • clamshellernh clamshellernh

                  Ar Rama what you fail to disclose here is that you didn't even look at the link that hor had that I was responding to , so before you follow folks around screaming fire look before you leap . Are you happy ? You have just blabber end on and on for over an hour totally making subject material that has nothing to do with nothing a subject . I'm done with this ok , leave me alone ok , do not respond to my posts again ok , stay on thread ok ? Eeshhh what a mess you have made here clean it up I'm going to bed , ps the link had nothing to do with anything conspiracy . Go figure !

                  • artika rama

                    clam I did clam , did you ?

                    here is the link to the video

                    and here is my response :
                    lamsellemh He starts the video (link above) with "they will sacrifice the planet to go to another planet ,, the first sentence . "

                    after you said this :
                    Hmm I haven't heard anything like what you are saying and I surly did not find him thru here …

                    Maybe you should check the video again 🙂
                    goodnight 🙂

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

             think the folks with money and 'in the know'..aren't trying to think of some way off the planet?

                    • artika rama

                      hotr I am sure they are but can they ? where are they going ? i dont think we are going to see humans leaving this planet soon . thats what i think .

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Of course not..
                      NASA is busy finding 'rocks' on Mars 'out of the blue'.

                      Mysterious rock appears near Mars rover Opportunity
                      Jan 16 2013


                      Oh..NASA..what silly little boys (and girls).

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      ..Umm…seems 40 have been chosen for a trip of no return.
                      Always a good start…lol.

                      Potential Martians: Mars One selects 1,058 hopefuls among 200,000 applicants

                      "The Mars One project has announced the selection of 1,058 hopefuls from over 200,000 applicants to become potential “human ambassadors” on the Red Planet. Eventually, no more than 40 people will be selected to go Mars to never return."


                      Fair size sheep camp…(in the California desert)

            • AI is part of the beast, do not take kindly to the beast..

              After the socref puppet and related beasts, we should be diligent and aware. Do not accept those who pretend to be "partial"

              • zogerke zogerke

                @stock, thanks for heads up; clear eyed recognition.

                @artika rama you expressed my opinions and feelings about sites pushing conspiracy theories, with courage too, as it is a most unpopular opinion to express on this site, sometimes triggering a reactive onslaught of extended 'shouting'. thank you.

                shepards protect the flock. i grew up with german shepards in my home. damn smart dogs, loyal, trainable, protective, loving, good judgement, tuned into their humans.

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Sorry I got you so worked up
        Please don't take this wrong but you seem cultish
        Maybe it's late
        I have to round myself out , I don't think it's healthy being involved in a site 24/7
        Now back to the study of radiation ……….

        • artika rama

          clamshelleh I dont know if your last message was meant for me , but i am not worked up ,, i am not here 24/7 do not belong to any cult . infact i have just joined the site now ,, i live on a different time zone ,(not everyone here is from US 🙂 ) my morning is your evening ,, thats why it may seem like that but i am definitely not here all the time.
          I dont appreciate personal attacks .
          If you want to discuss facts i am here , if not goodbye .

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        No.. I don't watch him..
        I just posted him..
        The guy is full tilt conspiracy ..huh?

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          PS..Then just listen to the song…aye?

        • artika rama

          hotr He doesnt mean it that way i am sure . He is doing his best to inform people in his own way and he is antinuke but he is creating the most outrageuos theories etc , and he attracks a lot of people to his youtube channel.

          It s fun to be at his channel because he makes a live show where everyone can participate / chat etc it feels good to be a part of his show , and he has some good info as well but for every good info he gives he adds his own crazy theories.

          I was following him for a while but i had to stop .
          He is not an eductaed man , not an expert in anything ,, only an expert to those who watch him , but that doesnt stop him to make his own theories about tepco creating storms ,, he even gives medical advice to cancer patients with absolutely no medical education ,giving those people false hope as if there suffering was not enough ,, he talks about 18 millions chernobyls etc etc , so if one would believe him everyone in US should be dead by now , and the elite would be on their way to another planet .:)
          I just dont want to be associated with that kind of thinking and i sure dont wish enenews become one of those conspiracy sites either. That would be the best way of ruining enenes,,one of the few decent sites about fuksuhima.

          NO ,You didnt share any conspiracy theories , i dont think you would anyway :)i have seen you here ,,read yopur posts long enough to say it with confidence 🙂
          take good care 🙂

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            It was just a post.. folks..
            Don't believe or like they guy ..just say so.
            But the more 'closed' the discussion.
            The more it looks like agenda around here.

            He said a thing or too about false hope.
            We do it here all the time.
            Note..I do not make personal judgements..about other posters here.
            Comments about me..I can do without.
            Who are you to vouch for my 'credibility'?

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    The mountains to steep
    The climbing will never cease
    The mechanisms of the mind fold on their own crease
    True to one's eyes is another one's beast
    Only together could they weep
    Never together could they keep
    For the brutality of their existence will always creep

    The most sad and ironic thing of all is…how truelly patient the universe is.

  • jec jec

    Its easy. Just prohibit Japanese fishing any fishing areas which could be impacted by Fukushima radiation. No more whales/dolphins, or fish captures in cesium contaminated international waters. They can FARM their fish supplies inside Japan. Stop the fishing and maybe they will pay attention to the issue of radiation contamination.

  • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

    "I don't know anything about what we do," I was once told by a CEO I reported to, " My job is to make sure we make money for investors".

    Sound like TEPCO? How about the Japanese government?

    Problem is, ours is just as complicit.

  • weeman

    Now I ask you, why would someone anyone not take advise, especially if it was at no cost or strings attached?
    Only if you had something to hide, I am no conspiritsory sort of person but something don't add up?

    My theory is Japan declares its self as a non nuclear nation and they are by the letter of the law, but you know it's about how you interrupt the law and implement it, know what I mean.
    The spent fuel pools would make a great place to store nuclear war heads from prying eyes and at the ready?
    This also opens a whole new kettle of fish, if true and who is really to blame, you know your history.

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Japans weapon program history
    A former editor of the Japan Times (Yoichi Shimatsu) biggest English newspaper in Japan wrote an outline of Japan's secret weapons program. It was set up in part by Abe's grandfather…Kishi
    Although a member of Tojo's cabinet and a convicted class A war criminal he was deemed useful by the occupation forces. He worked closely with them and went on to become Prime Minister in the late 50's.

  • name999 name999

    I think that is another wing of Operation Paperclip. Probably some of the Nazi scientists went to

  • name999 name999

    Did Barack Obama recently come out in support of nuclear weapons? Is that true? I think not.

  • outsider

    BOOM! The have nuclear weapons and research facilities inside there, the bomb is going to explode soon before the Olympics games.

  • So funny, in sick way….the trolls have really infiltrated in a number of "voices" ignore them, continue on… do not le the nuclear lie silence you. Continue on with ENE

  • I betcha, ya know, dem der trolls are hitting the adz on this admin motive to let them troll on…thinking it is the new members coming out of the wood work, ya know…..

  • Thanksforplaying

    They are scared, so they effing should be.Just ticked midnight here, off to bed to snuggle my wife and 3 yo. Good times…


    Before irreversible damage increases. The use of political warmongering over small islands must end. Pacific nations Immediately participate in stopping the outflow of radioactive water to demonstrate responsible leadership, otherwise those that do not act are culpable.

  • Engaging in gang member-like thinking that destroys our ability to divergently think, critically think, and even consider the truth when the truth challenges the group-think of the “gang”. Just like gang-stalkers, shills, Nuke advocates, Global warming dupes, et al. These are all "gang=think" a form of mind control and programming. It also means you are a projection of the group think, rather than an individual who does their own critical thinking to see the truth of things. It means YOU ARE A SLAVE TO OTHERS.

  • ss.minnow

    Mr fission. I regret to inform you that your diluted dirty daughters have been drifting through our communities for some time now. I ask that you please try to controll them. I'm sure your hand are full with them all, but you will be held accountable for their actions! The recent events involving your daughters have many folks concerned for their son who have thoughtlessly bedded down with them seemingly lost their morels by doing so. How easily misled our sons have proven to be and I for one am ashamed of them. I would meet with you to discuss these issues, But I understand your not very reasonable and a little hot under the collar also. I would like to say good riddance to you,but realize your life expectancy is far greater then mine so fuk u 2

  • ss.minnow

    Couldn't resist sorry about that

  • bwoodfield bwoodfield

    I've gotten tired of the comments people keep making about bananas and natural radiation so put together a post on Facebook describing the differences.

    Please feel free to share around the world:

  • pjrsullivan

    God said, "Patrick's fault is stupid. Witless abuse." 'Stupid' is produced by enduring prolonged periods of suffering. Father also said that because my thinking is based in love, I will recover from it.

    With that said, this head is not crazy. While my words, on occasion, may irritate and insult the ordinary fish, it is for sure that this head understands the nature of the permanent genocidal war makers that have gotten hold of us here.

    They've built tens of thousands of nuclear weapons and shot a bunch of them at us. Their last chance hope of permanently harming us now is with nuclear waste. Their dirty bomb power plant threatens to wipe out literally billions of us over the next few decades.

    Numerous times they've refused help. Hitachi-GE now pours an endless stream of toxic waste into the clouds and sea. Our fields and farms now contaminated with plutonium waste. The deadliest poison ever created, now being spread world wide on our fields.

    What is at the root of it all other than money? Why do we allow these errant guys to continue to issue our money?

    Merely by having the authority to issue our money, we can throw them false bums out and hire some able Russians who know how to shut it down. To do this we will need American labor to act and STRIKE THEM OUT.

    Take hold of the authority to issue our money labor. Understand, these are the last days. Our lives and health are on the line.