Nuclear Expert: Water now at Fukushima plant has 3 times more cesium than Chernobyl’s total release — “That underscores the scale of this never-ending threat”

Published: August 7th, 2013 at 6:23 pm ET


Title: A Fukushima fisherman’s tale: Radioactive water from the Daiichi plant is flowing into the ocean at a rate of 300 tons a day
Source: The Independent
Author: David McNeill
Date: August 7, 2013

Experts say the government’s admission shows that the crisis at the Daiichi complex is being managed, not solved.

“It is an emergency – has been since 11 March 2011 and will continue to be long into the future,” said Shaun Burnie, an independent nuclear consultant.

He says onsite contaminated water contains three times the caesium released from the 1986 Chernobyl accident – the world’s worst nuclear disaster.

“That underscores the scale of this never-ending threat.”

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Published: August 7th, 2013 at 6:23 pm ET


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53 comments to Nuclear Expert: Water now at Fukushima plant has 3 times more cesium than Chernobyl’s total release — “That underscores the scale of this never-ending threat”

  • Teddi Teddi

    "Abe Sanctions Government Funding To "Freeze" Fukushima With Giant Ice Wall"

    Again, where is the outcry for Japan to establish a superfund ? Where is the eco left and shouts for a "BP type fund" to deal with environmental issues ?

    'We Not They Finally' does not want to hear this, but it was the eco left that placed ITSELF at the forefront of saving the planet, yet they are nowhere to be seen on this disaster…

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      I posted several links showing that environmental groups are heavily linked to big corporations. Big Oil, Big Agri-biz, big money. In other words CORRUPT. Hypocrites? You bet. But also, the media is owned by these same or similar groups. This means any true eco movement must get through the filter of the media. Teddi thinks the media is left. I know "conservatives" who call the media "liberals". I know earth first people who think media is a stupid entertainment charade run by fascist jerks. The two sides are like teams in football, meant to give cheering impulses and illusion of choice. Me-them, right-wrong, left-right, blue-red. Pretty mundane right? The power of media is huge as is evidenced by Teddis belief in a left media. Truth is, the read from the same script, just B grade pretty faced actors. BP killed around 10 000 dolphins and much other life. They drilled where a common sense kid would know they shouldnt. In conjunction with the government, the coast guard and the media, they accomplished a major media obfuscation. They ruined lives, people are sick and dying and ANY money is not enough for this and is all tied up in stupid legal proceedings. The gulf disaster was huge and environmental groups didnt solve anything. Teddi, keep diving deeper. Greens are corrupt but you havent hit bottom by a long shot

      • Kassandra


        Most of us here share the same values – care for the environment and a sustainable future for humanity.

        Left and right, as constructed in the mainstream media, don't compute for many of us anymore.

      • Teddi Teddi


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          G'day to you and yours as well. Good luck with that rightest leftist theme. I take the "middle road" myself. I think theyre both weird gobbly-gooks masquerading like people when in fact they dont deserve a place in the animal kingdom. Alien leaches. But Ive always had a conservative view, others will be more radical. OK, teddy bears are exempt because of entrenchment

      • Ourself Ourself

        CodeShutdown and I may disagree about some things, but we can definitely agree about this.

        With all due respect Teddi, how can you not see that we aren't leftist? We aren't on the right or the left, we simply care about the environment and the future of humanity, as Kassandra says. This isn't a right or left issue, this is much bigger than that.

        The reality is deep, it is profound. This black and white paradigm you're trying to fit everything into, is flat in comparison.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Ourself, you might be surprised how little we disagree on. Probably 80% of the people here are hip to the same spiritual/metaphysical/societal/health wellbeing issues
          Wilhelm Reich? Dinshah? (reachin WAY BACK) Surat Shabd or yoga practice of your choice? Tai Chi? Homemade colloidal silver, DIY lipo C? Hulda Clark? Tibetan Buddhism? Time/space dilation? Golden mean/ phi architecture? Raw local food? all one love? How bout Mirdad? Mantak Chia or other qi-gong? Hospice, the best thing from medicine, Pleiades, not moving there soon, "Go to that impenetrable realm
          That death himself trembles to look upon.
          There plays the fountain of love
          With swans sporting on its waters." from Mirabai …all that leftist extremism stuff

  • Ourself Ourself

    More truth in this one article than in all of the previous news reports combined. While this may seem like a good thing, I have a bad feeling about it. The media is only reporting on it more truthfully now because someone in a position of great influence wants them to – not a good sign.

    • Kassandra

      Ourself, please elaborate on your interpretations.

      I'm beginning to really get worried.

      • StPaulScout StPaulScout

        A bit late for that. In addition to the water issues, the spent fuel pools, number 3 for sure, others most likely, but 3 definitely ran dry and burned up. Arnie Gunderson has pictures of the pool and asks, "where are all the spent fuel bundles? The pool should be full of them but they are gone. Where are they?". Gone like a fart in the wind. Breathe deep the gathering gloom….

        • StPaulScout StPaulScout

          Almost forgot. Pool 3 was full of MOX.

        • Kassandra

          Yes I know all that. Believe me. I've been here from the beginning.

          I think 4 burned as well, and maybe other units' spent fuel pools.

          The NRC records says zirc reactions were occurring in more than one pool.

          What i don't get is why they are talking now.

          What has changed so much that they risk public concern by talking about contamination that has been ongoing for 2 years?

          The stories are either prepping us for something worse, or they are akin to a sleight of hand trick. What is being hidden that they must speak to however indirectly?

          • Jebus Jebus

            The truth is the most powerfull enemy a lie has…
            Unless something else is up, mitigating the lie, is the only option.
            There's no stopping the truth.

          • Ourself Ourself

            I'm sorry, I don't mean to scare you. I like to help people, not make them panic. I will elaborate for you, but keep in mind that this is my opinion. I could be wrong. Lets hope I am.

            Anyway, there's different possible reasons why they are becoming more truthful now. The corporate propaganda media, as I'm sure you know, is bought and paid for. If this message is getting out, it's because someone wants the public to know. Well, why do they now want the public to know? What changed?

            I personally don't think anything has changed. This is simply step two of a larger agenda.

            The first step is to completely deny that there is a problem. You've already seen this.

            The second step, which seems to be what we're in now, is when they slowly admit that there is a problem, in very small increments. They won't fix the problem, of course, they will simply put on a show to make people think it's under control.

            The Japanese government has already stated that they'll be involving themselves with Fukushima. This seems to be part of step 2. Many on here believe that they'll soon be scapegoating TEPCO. This seems to be step 3 – the blame game. These corrupt people and corporations will destroy each other if they have to – anything to survive.

            Step 4 will probably be a repeat of step 2, except with international efforts instead. The US government will say they're doing everything they can, they will put on a great show, when in reality they're doing nothing to…

            • Ourself Ourself

              (Cont) This will be for their own protection. They don't want the public to see them as genocidal maniacs who do nothing while their country burns. If they don't create this facade, there would be large-scale insurrection.

              Step 5 is likely going to be a repeat of step 3, but again, internationally. It will be a big blame game. It will essentially be a big distraction away from the real issues. I forsee an attempt at installing Agenda 21 at this point, as well.

              It isn't easy to predict beyond this point, because it depends entirely on how the people respond. Also, keep in mind that it won't necessarily happen this way – it just seems to be the agenda. I also have a feeling that Fukushima will become unworkable at some point, probably between step 3-5.

              When the shit really hits the fan, the economy might collapse. The fishing industry will be gone for sure. The nuclear industry will be hated – they will be in damage control mode the entire time. However, people will still be dependent on it for their power.

              I imagine massive riots breaking out. The US might even declare martial law. It's quite a ways to predict, though, so who knows.

              Many of you probably think I'm crazy. Lets hope I am.

          • KDM KDM

            I believe Tepco is really scared is what's going on. The facility is spiraling out control and it's now to the point their telling what's going on because they want help. They should have never waited this long to seek help. I hope this isn't the case but the place is about to be, if not already, a no mans land. That will be the real disaster if they can't get near it.

            • Ourself Ourself

              It's been spiraling out of control for about 880 days now. They waited in order to save money and protect their image – ironic, isn't it?

              They deserve to have shit-stains in every pair of pants they own.

            • KDM KDM

              Another issue is work force. This is a massive disaster, it's going to take a massive work force to tend to it. There's a thousand plus projects to construct and they need it done yesterday.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              KDM, the top of the international nuke industry was on this from the beginning. The D.O.E. with supercomputers etc. Lack of international effort was not because TEPCO or Japan was isolated…this was WAY too big with too much at stake. What we are seeing is something more complex geopolitically. Dont forget not only was corporate or military industrial fascism in play, but also the U.S. has had a finger on Japan since WWII, and who knows how far these power plays reach behind the scenes. What if Benjamin Fullford is right? hahaha now that would be funny. What if China is getting mad..what about the new warship…China ties with Russia, U.S. makes stupid full spectrum dominance maneuver and becomes broke, big international oil rapes and ruins U.S. heartland and the Gulf, Brazil and Germany keep their alliance and probably consider shedding the dollar as worldwide currency, Japan needs more islands and disputes with China, the mysterious long arm of the Q of E may be weakening along with the failure of U.S France and England bad geopolitical plays. All the big players are in this deadly game. The disaster may force hands

              • KDM KDM

                Yeah they've all known about it and the number one reason why it's been a blackout, money. Ole Abe knows his people are already in a panic, why not scare the rest of the world so they can get some aid. He knows it's going to bankrupt them if they give the effort needed. It all comes in at a slant, none of their intentions will be straight forward.

              • Ourself Ourself

                Well said, Code. I think it's even bigger than what you're saying, though. I don't see empires as nation-states anymore, they are more like border-less economic empires now. It's the same one working in Japan, US, etc; they have great influence in politics too, but hold no loyalty to any nation. They are pillaging each nation one by one and leaving nothing but dirt and debt. It is what some would call the new world order.
                This is an ideological battle. I am hoping that the good people of the world can understand this, because otherwise, humanity will lose.

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  • Kassandra

    According to a November 16 report by TEPCO titled, ‘Integrity Inspection of Dry Storage Casks and Spent Fuel at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station,’ as of March 2010 the Daini site held 1,060 tons of spent uranium fuel.

    The total spent uranium fuel inventory at Daiichi in March 2010 was reported as 1,760 tons. The 2010 report asserts that approximately 700 spent fuel assemblies are generated every year. The report specifies that Daiichi’s 3,450 assemblies are stored in each of the six reactor’s spent fuel pools.

    The common spent fuel pool contains 6291 assemblies. The amount of MOX fuel stored at the plant has not been reported.


    Recently Ken Buesseler of Woods Hole was quoted as saying, 'better into the ocean,' and I suppose that he meant it would be better into the ocean because the human dying would be slower that way.

    Link to report:

  • getoutwhileyoustillcan

    "He says onsite contaminated water contains three times the caesium released from the 1986 Chernobyl accident"

    So at what point does it get too hot for anyone to get near it?

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Radiation keeps increasing and will keep spreading. More and more. And more.

  • MoonlightEmpire MoonlightEmpire

    Kassandra is right: Every last bit of it all is going into the ocean. Oh, and as it stands right now…so is every last bit of every single fuel pellet on the planet. With no postive action, that is a certainty.

    A few things stand out to me in this article. This month, TEPCO says caesium-134 levels are the highest since the disaster began. So, what's the truth? Are they truly the highest they've ever been (because this began on 3/11/11), or is this just the highest that they've REPORTED the levels to be since 3/11? There is a BIG difference there. I wonder which it is.

    Also, it's written in the article (because if you look closely, the "quote" can't be verified in it's entirety…) that on-site water contains 3 times the caesium released from Chernobyl–the worlds worst nuclear accident. haha! Idiots! The audacity that they could print something like that. "oh, it's 3 times Chernobyl, but Chernobyl is the worst nuclear accident…Fukushima is a cakewalk compared to Chernobyl…" I'm going to do a song and dance when, finally, some time in the future, the truth is released to the public that, "oops! we forgot to carry the 1….Chernobyl was a firefly in a broken jar to Fukushima's lightning bolt up our asses."


  • MoonlightEmpire MoonlightEmpire

    Third: The "fisherman" in this article says that they have only been detecting Caesium until recently measuring Strontium in the water. Fool! 15 Seconds on the internet and you'd know more than 200 nuclides are released in a nuclear meltodwn, and if you are detecting caesium in the ocean water after a confirmed triple meltdown/melt-through you can bet they're ALL present. The ignorance that some people paint over their eyes in order to escape the truth never ceases to amaze me. If anyone wants to know how long denial can last, the answer is…forever. Ever wonder how many people take their last breath, children and grandchildren all around, having never confronted a single truth?

    And it's not just that fisherman…the article says that "every day he [AND HIS COLLEAGUES] learn the latest radioactive readings from the sea…" "Der…uh….Day onwy say Caesium…Der…So…uh…."

    Assholes. My neighbor feeds her 8 year old son, tuna, EVERY DAY. The whole family goes out to sushi restaurants at least twice a month. Think I haven't told them what's up? They tune it out and erase from memory. Why? Because if they were to listen (let alone find out for themselves), they would actually have to alter their lifestyles in the most minute of ways. Too difficult for most to do, apparently. Also, a mother would have to come to terms with her ignorance putting poison into her children's mouths for the past two years.

    • Ourself Ourself

      It is truly amazing, isn't it?

      I know so many people that act just like that mother you've described. As sad as it makes me to say this, they can go die. Good riddance. The reason we're in this situation to begin with is because of ignorant people like that, who would rather cling to their own delusions than come to terms with the truth.

      I think Kevin Blanch says it best when he says to live like you have cancer before you get cancer. I've been working on that; it's not easy, but he's right. Atleast if we do it now we can slowly change our lifestyle, whereas later, when we are diagnosed with a terminal illness, we won't have that luxury.

    • HanfordOnHeart HanfordOnHeart

      Even disregarding Fukushima, that is a lot of mercury for a small child. They may not listen to you about radiation, but perhaps you could try the mercury angle.

  • BirdOfTheFeather BirdOfTheFeather

    Just check out the web cam footage from the last 6.0 eq ,, The place is falling apart

  • jackassrig

    Arrogance is the failure to face reality. Most here are trying to cope with reality but most people particularly in the US try by all their means to escape reality. The drug addiction, spending countless hours in front of a TV, and eat, eat, eat. I have little hope the general population will ever wake from their snooze.

    • Ourself Ourself

      You're right, many won't ever wake up. They might as well be taking a dirt nap now. The only thing we can do is help awaken those who are ready to wake up. If they'd rather sleep, all we can offer is a pillow.

  • Enlite2.0

    So, were the lies about radiation told during the cold war about the danger of radiation exposure and the dire health consequences- or are the lies being told now how everything is fine, regardless of the extreme releases ongoing?

    Russia always claimed nuclear war was survivable, while we were led to believe it would end up in nuclear winter, with few survivors.

    Anyone else feeling chilly, and suffering cognitive dissonance from the up is down and left is right information overload?

    • Ourself Ourself

      No, I've grown numb to it. The water's been cold for a long time. We've been lied to all of our lives, about almost everything. It is nothing new. It can be expected at this point. The only thing I can recommend to you is perseverance.

      • Enlite2.0

        Thank you for the encouragement.

        These days, I'm just a recorder; disseminating information consciously- in the hopes that whoever/whatever programmed my genes to react to stimuli will note how we got to this point and ensure it doesn't happen next time.

        This is difficult, because I actually love this planet and all the inhabitants. I would have wished for better leadership for it, and for us.

    • getoutwhileyoustillcan

      From what I've seen personally, the cancer epidemic is very real. Along with some of the other diseases radiation is reported to cause. Unless it's always been this bad, and there's a big conspiracy to make it look like it's a new thing.

      • getoutwhileyoustillcan

        I think it's a sign that things are getting pretty bad, when we start asking ourselves questions like this.

      • Enlite2.0

        "I think it's a sign that things are getting pretty bad, when we start asking ourselves questions like this."

        Brilliantly understated, IMHO.

        I am so literal, and such a linear thinker- this has been baneful. I can chase a thought into next week, but it's difficult when the information keeps changing as I go, with no logic. Is everything now the Means justifies the End? Have we become so shortsighted?

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      They could not afford these toys if they had to hold bake sales.

      How about we do cost plus contracts for schools?

      And then get the military to hold bake sales to do their thing?

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes a pillow…we need billions of pillows! Bring me more pillows for me and my friends!

    More pillows for everybody as they fry!

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    The conspiracy is to make you think its not bad or an epidemic.

    So one has to ask himself just how many people do I know with some from of cancer and/or immune disease/disorder?

    Radiation Contamination wears on the immune system, which will always kick in to respond to the new/continual ongoing exposures.

    Invisible, odorless and tasteless and its now everywhere…

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    ..oops.. "form" of cancer and/or immune disease/disorder?

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    50% percent of the people I know have a form of cancer and the other 50% percent have some form/type of immune system disorder and are just waiting for something to take them out.

    95% are taking medications/chemo/prescriptions…

    Gee is there a problem here? Nah!

    Bring me more Nuclear Power Plants and bring them now!

    I do not care if they are safe! Bring me more now!

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Radioactivity levels in Fukushima groundwater increase 47-fold over 5 days
    Aug 6 2013

    47 fold in 5 days..

  • paschn

    All this death and ruination for what? An obscenely bloated bottom-line. "And he shall bring to ruin those ruining the Earth." The sooner the better imo.